Live updates on tonight’s BBC documentary, Rangers – The men who sold the jerseys will appear below.
The article will be updated throughout the evening with further comment and analysis available in the comments section.
BBC Revelations:
Graeme Souness received £30k from Rangers in an EBT in 2001, 10 years after leaving the club and while he was manager of Blackburn Rovers. Blackburn bought Turkish international, Tugay Kerimoğlu, from Rangers in 2001.
Duff and Phelps partner, David Grier, attended meetings where Craig Whyte’s use of Ticketus to repay Rangers bank debt was discussed before the transaction took place. Duff and Phelps are now suing Whyte and his solicitors for this transaction. The BBC have seen email evidence that Grier instructed the invoice to Ticketus.
Roger Isaacs from the Institute of Chartered Accountants said, “given that [Grier] was a partner of Duff & Phelps, I’m surprised that that involvement wasn’t firstly disclosed, and secondly doesn’t give rise to the sort of conflict of interest that I would have expected to have precluded Duff & Phelps from accepting the appointment as administrators.”
Isaacs, “I would expect Duff and Phelps.. to be forcibly replaced”.
Paul Baxendale-Walker, Rangers tax advisor and pornographer: “If HMRC don’t win, then hopefully you’re going to come back and say Paul, all the Rangers fans in this country want to thank you because you single-handedly saved Rangers FC £50m. You’re a hero.” (raises eyebrows while saying “hero”, Smoooth)
Paul, you’re a hero.
Sir David Murray: “I personally have never received any payment from any trust from Rangers Football Club”.
BBC: Murray received over £6m.
Graeme Souness received £30k 10 years after leaving Rangers while manager of Blackburn Rovers, five weeks before concluding transfer of Tugay Kerimoğlu.
40% of all Rangers players between 2000 and 2010 benefited from EBTs with some receiving half their income this way.
The SFA president received £95k over five years.
Sir David Murray: “It was non-contractual, it was discretionary”.
Ronald Waterreus’ agent questioned the tax scheme and was told “in the interests of Ronald as it enables him to receive funds tax-free.
“I can confirm that we will not pay these amounts to [Ronald] unless they are made through the use of the remuneration trust.”
Murray: “There was category no dual contracts at Rangers”.
Barry Ferguson and Stefan Klos each received £2.5m from EBTs, not declared to the SFA.
The SFA president declined to be interviewed about the £95k he received. In short his statement was “I knew nothing”.
Rangers fan Sammy asks of Sir David, “Why didn’t you just play by the rules?”
Murray borrowed the £6m he used to buy Rangers in 1988 from the Bank of Scotland.
Graham Spiers “Everything about his first decade in charge made him feel a bit man”.
Murray: “Too many people go through their lives never taking chances”.
Roger Isaacs, “All the evidence I’ve seen suggests that the money invested in Rangers has come from the bank”.
Mark Daly: “Sir David Murray left Rangers hopelessly exposed”.
Andrew Ellis: “Whyte told me Prince Albert of Monaco wanted to invest in Rangers.
“I see him every weekend, he wants to get involved.”
Prince Albert’s assistant: “His royal highness doesn’t know this Craig Whyte. His royal highness does not want to invest in this club”.
Murray, “I was duped”.
Speirs, “I believe [Murray] was duped”.
Old Murray friend, “David Murray is not the type of person to be duped by anyone”.
Whyte leaked email, “I have forwarded the projected financial projections to Mike McGIll (of Murray Group). These are not what we will use, they are not sustainable, but they are what the independent board committee want to see”.
Aiden Earley, on money said to be paid from Rangers to Barnstead Athletic, “The £250k that you refer to did not come from Rangers…. In the politest possible way I would very much never like to hear from you again in the context of Rangers”.
Alastair Johnston, Whyte turned out to be “a blatant liar”.
Sammy’s angry.
Gary Whitey, emailed Whyte and David Grier of Duff and Phelps in April 2011, “the Ticketus agreements will become unconditional”.
Duff and Phelps are suing Craig Whyte and his legal team for not disclosing the involvement of Ticketus in repaying Rangers bank debt. The BBC have emails to confirm that David Grier attended the meeting on 24 April 2011 where the Ticketus funding was arranged.
Duff and Phelps claim they knew about “a” Ticketus deal, not “the” Ticketus deal.
Duff and Phelps agreed to be interviews and then pulled out 30 minutes before the arranged time.
Grier, of Duff and Phelps, emailed in June 2011 Ticketus to say “We’ll arrange to get an invoice to you ASAP”.
Roger Issacs, Institute of Chartered Accountants, “I would expect Duff and Phelps to stand down or be forcibly replaced”.
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Nice padlock shot…
Rangers worst day ever, caught, exposed and laid to bare.
If I was Charles Green I would be running for the hills right now
BBC2 at 11 o clock
I may have missed it but anyone from doom dome say SORRY??
paul murray has still to say anything about his namesake all d & d fault pure drivel from him i know nothing its not our fault & welcome back paul67
Remember Wee Oscar in your night prayers Bhoys!!
http://www.padrepio.catholicwebservices.com/ENGLISH/Novena.htm
Is it p45 Thursday yet ?
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOhOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
were back
Taxi for duff &phelps
Paul murray “Blah blah blah…investigation….blah blah blah….urgency….”
They are deed and now everyone knows it
So it was MadraRua on 23 May, 2012 at 20:58’s fault…………
ITV2………Craig Whyte……..I Am Legned……
Ah, we’re back.
So, nothing to see here timmy, now run along.
Less of the snyde comments re ‘Sammy’ – I thought the guy was genuine, spoke well..a supporter who has invested and deserves answers – I didn’t hear him coming out with any sectarian tosh or anything else offensive?
Paul Murray came over as a slimey chancer there……
and a classic line I thought ….. eh they should be investigated by whoever investigates Administrators….jeeez check thungs out before you come on the telly….otherwise you just look like a t1t
Paul,
Thanks for your efforts. What a day. Post after post followed by an hour of unmitigated enjoyment. Poor Sammy. Never mind.
How many teams play in leagues outwith their home Associations, I wonder?
just watch the bbc doc there ….. underwhelmed
nothing that was a real surprise – only hope is the fact that it came from the bbc and as such, gives serious gravitas to wider society of current rfc(ia) circus
Blog back up!!!!
Did anyone else think that Baxendale Walker looked like a Steve Coogan creation.
Is the BBC list of EBT recipients exhaustive? Was surprised not to see Sally or the Cardigans name on the list.
One other thing i get the feeling after watching the documentary that there ismore information out there to complete the trilogy.
Well done Paul67 for a remarkable effort today.
If you still have your crystal ball out, any chance of the euromillions numbers for friday
Paul67
My earlier suggestion – Mark Daly must have enough information to run a programme (on Wednesdays) as a precursor to Sir Alan Sugar’s slot…….
The Cloven Hoof Pen!
Murray nerr heard anything untoward efter the games. This murray is a bigger comic than the famous Chic!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y82WdMot–U
Paul Murray squirming on BBC2. GOOD.
The thing that really struck me about tonight’s documentary was how much of this info was openly discussed on here and other Celtic fan sites more than a year ago. In the case of the big tax case, we were discussing it two years ago. The excuse that Murray, Rangers and their fans were duped is absolutely ridiculous.
The information was there if they wanted to take it in. The “we are the people” mindset that irks us so much has turned out to be central in their collapse. They never saw this coming even though we did.
The extent of the EBTs was known but it is good to put faces to the tax evasion. To think of the league we lost on goal difference in 2003, the pain of the last minute collapse in 2005 and the loss of four in a row in 2009 in the final 2 games and that all of that happened because we paid our taxes and they didn’t is galling. They should lose every tainted title and every tainted cup. They should never darken the door of Scottish football again, never mind SFL3.
It is good to revel in their downfall but I can’t help but feel bitter at the false disappointment we suffered in 2003, 2005, 2009, 2010 and 2011. Who knows what other corruption robbed Tommy Burns of 2 titles and eventually his job in the mid-90s.
Craiginho
new job offer for sammy i hear pimp my ride is on the phone but he wont do anything that isnt blue with some old cheating teams logo on it RIP HUNSFC
Mark Daly better watch out that he is not attacked …. by Chick Young
BBC Scotland reverts to type with Blue Knights Newsnight Party Political Broadcast. Spiers , your a disgrace.
Aye, cant imagine Sammy giving us any snyde comments had it been the other way round.
Behave yerselves
thebhoyfromoz – thx it was doing my head in, you got it in one. Steve Coogan. He was even trying to sell his videos during it.
The 2 chairs with mic’s on them – reserved for Duff & Duffer – looked tragic.
I think they just walked away! :-)
Is the porn king tax advisor and craig whyte the same person?
Anyone else hear a wee old voice saying, “Doomed. We’re doomed”?
Great stuff from the BBC. The hard evidence to back up many things we have all been pretty certain about for years.
Come on SPL. That proved there is a case to answer. Get them in front of a hearing pronto.
One final thing – thanks for a brilliant day’s work, Paul.
Didn’t they choose a good example of a bhun to represent the fans views. Absolutely incredible……he was a hoot……cringeworthy
Well, expect the FTT result soon now, and the 2 contracts investigation outcome……..
I don’t think even vulture green will be able to continue with his bid now …… Then liquidation, sale of ALL assets…….bye bye, and good riddance
Very disappointed in the BBC exposé .
If you have been following the saga there was little new revelation.
I suppose those who are new to the saga are better informed.
Sammy came across well IMHO.
TT
Chris Kamara….’ So neil, what do you know of two contracts? ‘
neil mccann…..’ eh oh eh…I don’t know anything about that..but ally’s doin well considerin whats happenin..blah blah blah lies lies lies lies lies lies lies’
neil mccann….EBT..£500,000….paper evidence..YES!!
neil mccann a SKY pundit who blatantly lied to another SKY pundit, Chris Kamara, on Goals on Sunday.
Chris Kamara asked the EBT funded LIAR neil mccann if he knew anything about two contracts at ibrox.
neil mccann who benefitted from two contracts to the tune of £500,000 lied that he didn’t know anything about two contracts.
Surely SKY must now sack neil mccann as he has disgraced the broadcaster and shown contempt to fellow SKY pundit Chris Kamara.
Or will neil mccann just tell more lies.
Or will neil mccann walk away.
Enjoyed the doc.
Aftermath left a slightly foul taste. Focus appears to be on D&P and from what I viewed on news and Newsnight it appears D&P are now being blamed for their woes.
Cue, smokin mirrors and deflecting attention away from the club to the administrators, we must not allow focus to change.
Can just imagine meeting at ludge on what they should do to address problem.
For D&P read ” a big man did it and ran away”.
Mark my word focus with Scottish media over coming days will be D&P and not the cheats. That is the agenda.
TinyTim on 23 May, 2012 at 23:33 said:
Very disappointed in the BBC exposé .
If you have been following the saga there was little new revelation.
I suppose those who are new to the saga are better informed.
Sammy came across well IMHO
you are quite funny for a hun TT
Sammy – the nucleus around which a new club could be built?
A sound supporter who admitted that they shouldn’t have cheated
Well done Andrew, muchas gracious.
Thanks Paul67.
Well, well, well, that was interesting was it not.
Where do we start ??????
Sammy the Mechanic, would you trust him to service your car???
A struck off lawyer and porn star [ish] if the stories are to be believed.
Then we have Johanna rebuffing the mint, must have knocked him off his feet that one.
And then we have Prince Albert, I reckon if minty had showed Johanna his Prince Albert she might no have spurned him.
And then I find out that the whyte knight has put more into the huns than minty ever did, I knew that anyways, but it’s reasuring to get a bit of proof.
Then we have a twice bankrupt born again christian who doesn’t know where the 250k has gone, dearie, dearie me, how do they sleep at night ?
Aye well at least the bank thot minty could walk on water, no many folks can do that btw, possibly Roy Harper, but he was just pretending.
Then I find out about all the diddy players they paid millions to thro the ebt scheme.
FFS, they can’t even cheat good, feckin usless bellends, hunbelievable.
We even had the rat walking around the bigot dome last week, drumming up support, thot he would have contributed some of his 1.2 mill he got, naw, what am I thinking…..still he will be ok for rat food for a while.
So they won 13 throphys during the ebt thing, again says a lot, if they really were any good at cheating they would have won the feckin lot, 30 I think, usless feckers.
Did you also know that in 2005 the huns ebt cost was 6.5 million, twice the Hibs wages that season, Hibs finished 3rd btw.
A couple of things that I thot Marc would have touched on tonight that has yet, and will come out, I have reliable info.
The phone hacking……
The bent referees…..
Tainted titles R us, eat yer feckin heart oot Hately….
Can I volenteer myself to padlock the gates.
Must have missed a few, they will keep :>))))
Aye Paul, it did blow me away, at least the wee fish wifes have something to talk about now.
this reminds me:
picture the scene, miami 1973, the death penalty has been reintroduced, they’re dusting down ‘Old sparky’, only problem: no-one knows how it works. It was built by prisoners in the 30’s and they didn’t leave blueprints. The warden asks a local electrian to examine it. His findings were that the prisoners had made their own insulation of copper wrapped in salt, sheathed in lead. Over the years rats had gnawed through the lead to get the salt, ‘in fact’, said the electrician, ‘it’s a good job you phoned me, this could’da killed somebuddy!’
Paul Murray; ” it wisnae me, it wis aw thae other big boays in the boardroom”