Ask anyone who has never played the game, managed, or run a football club, and they will tell you how easy it is. In reality, success and failure on or off the field is determined by complex and interdependent factors. You need to be a footballer to understand, that even in this modern time of sports science, how fatigue affects your performance late in a game.
You need to be a manager to know that scoring more goals is not just about putting two up front instead of one, or that encouraging players to pass with more urgency can cause undesired outcomes. Few of us have the benefit of these experiences.
Then there are those who should know these complexities, and at one time, maybe did know, but are now lost in blissful ignorance. Alan Shearer, you have been called out.
Martin O’Neill distilled his 31-years managerial experience into eight words for Shearer, who criticised Fulham’s Ireland international right back, Cyrus Christie, saying, “Maybe that’s why he [Shearer] only managed eight games”.
Alan, if you knew more about football management than you did, perhaps you would have recorded more than a single win in the business. Your knowledge of management is not sufficiently useful to extend your game experience to double figures. Worse than that, despite an illustrious playing career, you have forgotten that all those complexities and interdependencies exist.
There’s a debate to be had (another day) about who makes the better analyst, a former player or a trained journalist. The journalist will never know just how hard it is to make a 20 yard pass when you are so exhausted you can hardly see. But too often, former footballers do not use analytical skills, which is pretty important when analysing.
Easy answers are offered for complex problems continually. Why did Fulham ship five goals to Arsenal? Maybe it was because Cyrus Christie took it upon himself to play as wing-back for the day, as Shearer suggests. Or maybe it was a combination or several players actions, as well as tactics, counter-tactics, relative economic resource, the break of the ball and a dozen other things.
Martin O’Neill added, “[Shearer] should have prefaced things by saying ‘I don’t know what the manager has said’ because, at the end of the day, the manager has asked him to stay up the pitch and not worry about getting back.”
Be like Martin, not Alan. People who offer simple solutions to complex problems usually have a huge knowledge gap.
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Bada
Nope, and the real reason why the games are determined HIGH RISK and not highlighted by SMSM .
Jobo Baldie on 10th October 2018 4:12 pm
I would imagine it’ll be full stand behind the goal and half stands at the sides. 50/50 split
As the Canadian hockey player said ‘ Lets get the puck outa here ‘
HeShootsHeScores CSC
BSR…I know there will be ‘explanations’ (we can cordon off 1001 fans), but common sense would suggest that if it is unsafe for 1500 fans, surely it is unsafe for 1100 fans.
If teams cant provide a safe environment for fans, then they shouldn’t be allowed to sell tickets.
bournesouprecipe
So basically the authorities,( UEFA, GCC, PoliceScotland etc), agree that it is not safe to be a visiting supporter at Ayebrokes. All the more reason that Celtic FC refuse any tickets for the next league match there. I’m confident the Board will reach the right decision. No, honestly!
and, reading back… I cant believe An Tearmann was the only person to comment on P67’s article today …
does nobody even read them anymore? To busy chasing bloody podiums?
To me, it was a shocker of an article … right up there with last week’s Neil Doncaster is the savior of Scottish football’
mike in toronto
Mike, I think you have just answered your own question.
Correctly in my view!
Personally, I’d give Sevco there 800 tickets back and plead with our supporters not to go near the place.
MIT / Celtic Mac
See my reply above didn’t read back
Couldn’t agree more, should have been done in 2008 four years before Rainjurz expired when the Celtic fan complained to the Irish Parliament.
The downside is the Celtic Happy Clapper that wouldn’t have witnessed all the first hand Humpings.
One of too many things were Celtic get things wrong IMHO
there = their
To be fair, I enjoy a good podium chase as much as the next guy… but, I do go back and read the articles …honest!
:)
were = where
Jeezo CSC
My friends in Celtic
Our tickets for Grayskull should now come with a ” high risk warning”. A Scottish government warning.
Various personal insurances etc may be invalid.
Surely we must now refuse to handle these toxic tickets.
HH.
Down with toxic tickets for Celtic supporters ?
Celtic Park (old) with meandering River Clyde beyond
Scott Brown was very clever with his words today backing up the Griff. Well done Capitano.
Celtic Park (new) with meandering River Clyde beyond
MIT
“does nobody even read them anymore? To busy chasing bloody podiums?
To me, it was a shocker of an article … right up there with last week’s Neil Doncaster is the savior of Scottish football’”
People can read and then choose not to comment.
Especially if they cannot discern what is “shocking” about it.
Since you have not explained which word, phrase or concept you found shocking, I am at a loss to know how to comment on that part of your post.
P.S. Did Paul actually post that ND was the saviour of Scottish football?
It would be shameful if he had.
But, if he had not……
Tim Horton’s.
“Coffee so bad it”ll have you pining for that cadaver colored English stuff that tastes like curdled hot milk with added Milk of Magnesia.lNo need to try a donut unless you Really want to know What damp cardboard tastes like”
La Repubblica 17 8 2017
Gotta agree with P67 about shearer and add a general comment about the pundit/match of the day brand – it’s time for it to go – the analysis lags well behind what you can get on the bampotternet; it’s padded out with poor graphics and isolated issues. Roy Keane called them out in the world cup – he’s an awful pain in the erse but can’t help talk candidly about the football on the pitch rather than soundbites and social comments.
SoT
The coffee here isny bad, had a couple today when in town and they were superb taste, nice and strong, could have been a tad hotter and cheaper, 1 euro, but the decor=the bar-person-maid was “stunning” :-)
pundits and punditry,
what amazes me is that the broadcasting companies are willing to pay fortunes to ex players to speak, why ?
shearer and linker earn more now than as players
Stanley bar Emerald now in session.
SFTB
What is the old saying, ‘A blind person who sees is better off than a seeing person who is blind’?
Not a fan at all of pundits but Kris Boyd would be far from the top of any list I made of those whom I find particularly dull:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45776939
MiT
As regards Paul`s article, I found this one rather dull ( Understandably so as he feels committed to producing one every day) but certainly not `shocking`
JJ
The Exiled Tim
I’m currently paying 80 cents for an espresso.Hard times mean some places bang them out for 60..My barrista is a relative rarity in these parts -he supports Palermo.
MIT
I think the saying goes that “A person who answers a posed question sheds more light on his point than one who responds cryptically with a meaningless simile.”
Who would win in a fight between a solicitor and a barrista?
Hot Smoked,
I think there is a dangerous undertone to this article ….it seems to suggest that unless you done something at the highest level, you cant comment on how to play (or at least, cannot do so “reasonably”). even having played at the highest level, and having managed (albeit briefly), Alan Shearer is apparently not qualified to comment on a game.
I will set out why I disagree, and then, why I find this train of thought troubling. And then anyone can wade in and disagree. I am in and out of meetings this afternoon (I am jjust finishing up my lunch as I tuype this), so may not be able to respond right away, but will check in when I can …
We dont know why AS hasn’t managed more than 8 games. Maybe as a manager, he was good at identifying players, but not good at man management… 8 games is hardly a fair sample size. Also, as some posters have suggested, he gets paid a piss pot full of money to be on TV. Maybe he got paid more as a pundit, and decided that he didn’t need the stress/uncertainty of managing …
So, why would MO’N be qualified? He didn’t win much anywhere, except in Scotland (unless we are also going to consider McCoist and McLeish as experts… hey, they both played and they both did/do manage). Maybe only CQN favourite, Jose Mourinho (arguably, the most successful modern manager) is fit to comment …or maybe he no longer is because he hasn’t won much in a few years…or because we haven’t yet forgiven him for Seville.
On Jose, he was hardly a stellar professional … I dont think he played higher than the Portugese second or thrid division …. does this mean that he ins’t competent to know what is required to be, or develop, a successful elite level footballer?
Of course, there is the issue of bias and objectivity … MO’N has a vested interest … protecting a player, or protecting his own reputation …. whereas I can see none that AS would have for not telling the truth. so, whose opinion is more credible?
If P67’s account is to be believed, then it doesn’t sound like MO’N addressed the criticism made by AS, but simply responded by an eight word criticism of AS himself.
These are some of the issues I have with P67’s analysis.
And, as for what I found shocking …. I hadn’t overlooked the “run a football club” in the first line ….
How is reads is that, unless we have also run a football club, we cannot comment “reasonably” on those who do, and can be dismissed out of hand, as P67 seems to do with Shearer.
So, I guess that those on CQN who have played at a high level, or coached, or done judicial reviews, and/or run companies) should sit quietly and let the big boys on Celtic’s Board get on with their work (because we haven’t run a football club). I am wondering which football clubs Lawwell ran before Celtic.
As for the ‘knowledge gap’, I would be surprised if MO’N had any fiduciary relationship with Shearer such that he had a duty of care towards AS, but our Board do have one towards Celtic shareholders… yet, we seem to be told about as much as Shearer ….
This article reads to me like a pre-emptive shot by P67 ….
If I was a bit more cynical, I would think there was an AGM coming up….
sorry, not read back or edited as I am eating and typing at the same time (and soup… so not easy! … and no jokes!)… but I think you get the point i am trying to make.
BBC 1 ………….logs off for Fiona Bruce
SFTB
I always smile when I am on CQN. Why wouldn’t I? It is where I come to chat with friends.
:).
Hot Smoked…
Of course, it is entirely possible that I have been doing the law thing for far too long, and have become old and cynical …. and far too suspicious.
I woulnd’t rule out that possibility entirely.
:)
SoT
I recall you saying before you paid less than I do, but 60 c is a relative steal, and they are still making a profit, better than paying £3+ for dishwater back in britland right enough, the bar I was in today is my first time there, it won’t be my last, seen a young lady today that was apart from the Mrs the nicest looking I have ever seen, don’t have a clue who she supports right enough :-)
south of tunis
Am I right in thinking that you picked out the Battle of the Braes in Skye in the 1880’s yesterday. Made a point of visiting the memorial when last on the Isle.
So PS can handle two high profile games in one day but cant handle a couple of thousand.
Make them play behind closed doors.
Or is Hugh BIGOT Dallas involved ?
THE EXILED TIM on 10th October 2018 6:16 pm
SoT
I recall you saying before you paid less than I do, but 60 c is a relative steal, and they are still making a profit, better than paying £3+ for dishwater back in britland right enough, the bar I was in today is my first time there, it won’t be my last, seen a young lady today that was apart from the Mrs the nicest looking I have ever seen, don’t have a clue who she supports right enough :-)
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If she’s that pretty I know what team she supports.?
fork scotland and kenny miller
other soup taker kris commons