We deservedly lost at Ibrox on Saturday, so it would have been inappropriate to apportion any responsibility towards referee John Beaton, for the free reign Newco player Alfredo Morelos had to kick Scott Brown, stamp on Anthony Ralston and assault the genitals of Ryan Christie during the game.
These things occasionally happen in football (although seldom in such quantities) and are picked up by the SFA review process. What is exceptional about these circumstances is that the review process is unable to act as the referee claims to have witnessed each incident and determined no action was worthy of a caution or more.
Beaton will have mitigated his decisions with some or other explanation, perhaps with “It wasn’t that bad a stamp” type comment. This is how the process works. The system is rightly designed to protect referees and allow them latitude to make decisions, including the occasional mistake.
It is not always easy to view common assault for what it is, in fact, it is easy to get carried away with an occasion and raise your threshold for such matters. It is only human to be affected this way. But this is bad refereeing.
Beaton could have taken the easy route out and claimed he missed one or more of the incidents, each was off the ball, after all. That would have allowed the review panel to dispassionately decide if such attacks are to be prohibited, or encouraged, in our game. Instead, he affirmed that in his view, there was nothing in Morelos behaviour worthy of a caution.
I have no idea what Dedryck Boyata said to earn his red card from John Beaton against St Johnstone earlier this season but I defended the referee’s decision that day. You have to trust match officials to competently carry out their duties. Do I still trust John Beaton’s views on kicking players, stamping, genital punching and the like? No. His views and significantly out of line with mine.
I don’t see a conspiracy in what happened this week, just a referee who was not up to the job. A good referee would have cautioned Morelos for the first incident (kick on Brown). This may have prevented the more serious attacks on Ralston and Christie, but the Newco player was not even spoken to after any of the incidents.
These are not easy games to officiate but this was not a game full of controversy or incident, only one player and one referee lost the plot.
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Stephboy
Celtics problem is domestically away.
How many games did Defoe play in, when Celtic lost.
I also realise its not being confirmed yet, just giving an opinion on how the club plans to rectify the away form.
I made an error in thinking you would realise that.
Watch jabbas puddles run with the Beaton story, would love the board to stay strong and see through this pish
Wits, anywhere that would have us. With our fan backing and reputation its no great leap of the imagination that someone would find a way to let us in. We cannot continue as slaves to corruption and bias just because it’s profitable.
Wits
Ì would chuck SPFL and join Leagùe of Ireland.
Celtic v Shamrock Rovers or Derry City woùld be great away games ?
League of Ireland would be a disaster.
Its basically a part time league
No ground has a capacity of 10 thousand and most can cater for a lot less.
Backward step
Great in this day and age we still have to put up with this pish, yet some political parties would have you believe it’s the best wee country in the world
How would the rest of the Irish league feel if we do our red bull thing there
Ollie Burķe will be a great player for us Fife Tim. YLike Broony. Ĺove Fife Tims.
Delaney’s dunky if only saying it would make it true but here’s hoping
WITS
Would the refs be masons in Ireland?
Would love to see Celtic ìn League of Ireland.
Delaneys
Honestly it would be a backward step
And there would be plenty of bad refs,..
And begrudgery
Don’t forget the Irish are world class at begrudgery
There are masons at work at Celtic Park,lets not be kidded here.
George Connelly was a great Fifer to play for Celtic. Olly Burke is a Celtic supporter fae Fife who desires to play for his team Glasgow Celtic. Magic
WIts
Would prefer begrudgery to Scottish Masonic cheating.
Bada Bing
Eric Riley is a loud and proud mason. I wonder about hìs best mate Peter Lawwell. Never seen him about Knightswood Masonic Temple wi Eric though. Why are masons on our board????
League of Ireland for the famous Glasgow Celtic.
To any lurking huns on here, stop laughing.
Zany humour indeed.
Goodnight guys.?
Eric Riley left the board two years ago due to ill health.
He’s not on here to defend himself on this particular board , nor is any other member of the board. Pretty shit really
SID on 4TH JANUARY 2019 10:59 PM
If we are tooling up with big lumps We are in more trouble than i thought. Reference to defoe’s hight was how We were tooling up like for like with other spfl teams, clearly that is not so if sevco are signing guys like defoe and davis who are far from giants. Hibs signing guild and possibly allan etc….
We need quality football players to win games and We need our manager to stop fucking about with teams shape and personnel. Always play your best team and play most fimiliar formation and style.
See when we go one up dont slow down the play to walking pace for 40 minutes with a one goal lead keep driving at team try to build a lead. We have dropped points away from home all season because of such silly tactics and decisions.
During the last sevco game rogic was not available and we moved calmac to leftback because Kt was not available. We stuck johnson up top despite the factirs he is a winger because eduard was not available nor was griffiths. We then went on to lose lustig and benkovic during the game.
Thats half a team of enforced changes. However, Izzy or hayes should have been leftback, calmac should have been kept central and Johnson should have been pushed into left wing with sincliar up top. We could have dealt with some of the issues better.
I hope BR and the coaches reflect on this and learn, that does not involve simply signing up big players, that to me is to simplistic a view regards what has went wrong so far this season
HH
A lack of human decency
Greenpinata
Let’s just stay in Scotland and be cheated forever and let the huns laugh when they cheat the league trophy.
Will you be Laughing then?
It is coming soon
Huns will be champions soon.
Maybe 3 months time?
DD the Dublin grand ludge is the second biggest in the world and the longest most continuous one. They’re every effin where even saw one in Cuba FFS.
C40FM- not the point,nobody wishing ill on anyone,Riley was a mason on our board,allegedly,the cabal Lawwell has surrounded himself with ex cops…no doubt, they are not on the board,look at your fridge magnets too,along with the Majorca/Florida wans….
About 40 years ago , they allowed Catholics to join the Masons.
At that time , from memory , the Catholic Church disapproved , or perhaps forbade , on the basis that you can`t worship two masters .
My understanding is that Charles is the first heir to the throne who is not a member of the Masons.
Just before I head for bed
some replies.
Fan-A-Tic @10.30
“What’s happy clapping?”
A commonly used term used to deride those that clap like fish in support of the team
Fan-A-Tic @10.45
PL might be a savvy media operator but the story of using one social media site (out of a number that must exceed 100) to trial reactions does not seem like the actions of anyone savvy. Even if CQN had reacted to Paul67’s leader with equanimity, that statement was still coming out of Celtic. We ( You and I) are really not that important. No more than The Bhoys and girls on the Huddleboard, E-tims, Kerrydale Street etc; Did they have media savvy article leaders?
Paul67 must be getting paid a fortune by Celtic if the benefits outweigh the brickbats. Why is this site so dependant on ads then? PL should pay him more and get them turned aff. Paul is very uninfluential these days in setting an agreeable mood on CQN. The posters are so angry (I stand by that word as accurate though it does not exclude words like concern and worry) that they are queuing up to disagree. Not very media savvy, is it?
TET @ 10.39
“You seem hell bent on taking the piss, no like you but you carry on.”
Humour is difficult and certainly not my strong suit. I did try to take the wind out of some of the more ludicrous assertions made on here. I regret if anyone making more balanced points felt they were being laughed at.
SID @10.49
“Nice deflection from you.
The major problem i had with today’s leader is it is a completely different view point from a few days ago.
Now as you know the inner workings of Paul’s mind, was this a dramatic change of opinion?
Go on i dare you”
Nice framing from you- From what did I deflect? Not very successful was I as I’m still answering points.
Your major problem was not one I spoke to- go right on ahead and call Paul out for inconsistency – it helps us all to be kept on our toes. It was the PL writes the articles argument, I was addressing.
Amongst the many deficits in my super powers is the ability to mind read so NO! I won’t answer a point to a claim I never made. As for “dramatic”- pushing it a bit, I’d say. I would recommend you stick with the charge of “inconsistency”- there’s more mileage in that.
And, no need for the dare. If you ask nicely, and I’m around to reply, I’ll always give it a go.
JimThe Tim
“SFTB you are very naïve.”
A fair shout but maybe for different reasons than you are suggesting. I just think we waste a lot of energy on fluff we cannot change easily. We have enough energy for the instant anger of a tweet or a post but not for the hard work to achieve unity amongst the discontented.
BTW- Are you alright? Your recent postings have suggested a change in your general mood. I’m probably reading too much into it but I hope you get to where you want to be anyway.
Now, it’s definitely bedtime
DD,
I do not underestimate the challenge of the huns. Possibly we all underestimated them for too long. However let’s not “cut off our nose to spite our face”
Yes Beaton really pi@@ed me off, BUT what really annoyed me and still gets on my goat is that we let a wee cowardly pr@ck get to us.
He should have been given a few dull ones . Our players let him get away with it and as a result he thought he was untouchable.
Not for the first team this season we have been lacking a physical presence and allowed ourselves to be bullied. We need to grow a set and if no current players will fight for each other we need to bring them in.
The message is clear, we know what is required. Our board, manager and scouts must and will deliver.
KTF.
Defo goodnight now.
MacJay
I respect Charles immensely. His dad killed his wife wi the help of masons though.
Another roller coaster on CQN.
Paul67 – hope you feel the love and appreciation just oozing through.
Peter Lawwell – Hope you don’t form a Freight Shipping start up. If you do you’ll really know hatred !
Goodnight and hail hail
Maybe worth remembering jock stein was a mason.
As were some of his players.
I wouldnt get too worked up about whether this or that individual is a member.
Though any scottish catholic who joins them wants watching.
!!BADA BING!! on 5TH JANUARY 2019 12:18 AM
I know its normal behavior on the internet these days but I still find talking like that about someone who isn’t around to defend themselves pretty depressing, especially coming from a Celtic supporter about someone who worked for Celtic.
Greenpinata
What annoys me more is Morelos was out his face on Cocaine. His supplier assured me of that fact. Everyone in the West End of Glasgow know that Morelos is a coke addict like Pena. Why do the SFA not drug test players?
So, we made a statement.
Paul67’s leader read like a tester and after major negative reaction we got the statement. Not impressed at all. We had 6/7 years to do the same and sat on our hands.
The follow up will tell us everything and guess what, I suspect there will be none.
Appease the peasants…
Good Evening/Morning. :))
It is telling that you must believe in a supreme being to become a Mason.
Always dangling a carrott of ever more jibberish p!sh to go up the levels. Taking the person away from what he believed initially…. and if you go the whole way to the top of the pyramid, you get to worship Lucifer…. only if you really become meritorious though to have that cursed 33rd°.
Thankfully most have no interest in going anywhere in an organisation like that, they were just told it would help financially etc.
Ernie
Eric Riley is a protestant, a mason and a Rangers supporter. Perfect for our aĺl inclusìve board. ?
ernie lynch on 5th January 2019 12:34 am
Maybe worth remembering jock stein was a mason.
As were some of his players.
I wouldnt get too worked up about whether this or that individual is a member.
Though any scottish catholic who joins them wants watching.
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I agree with that. I doubt any Catholic Celtic player has ever joined them. It was more a Protestant thing passed down.
SFTB
This handball by Michael Duberry
I know you meant Iain Brines, Beaton has enough on his conscience where I’m sure its stored the
Morelos crimes he seen but not as crimes.
I think its also worthwhile to highlight that ‘the conspiracy’ hasn’t prevented Sevco being top of the crime league with the convictions to prove it.
Beaton, Madden, Dougal Brines, McCurry, Tait, Davidson, whichever mibbery man past or present all have the same gene that simply cannot ‘call it’ like it is for Celtic.
IMHO CSC
I found this funny
Although that is likely mair Regans York Rite Shite, up here in Scottish Rite Shite – God only knows what they would concoct.
Have the Eastern Star responded?
;)
SFTB
Did you have a go at Paul for the inconsistency charge? or are your posts just where you feel you can argue a point for him?
In other words Paul defending but zero balance.
Are you a friend , I’d understand your stance in that case, I’d have more respect for you too because i like people who stick up for pals, I’d do the same, however on a blog, i think you should be upfront, that way posters can decide in your motivations then decide for themselves.
I notice you didn’t admit to Paul saying one thing you disagreed with in your rebuttal, i had predicted that in my mind (your going to have take my word for that, no beyond reasonable doubt evidence ?) and just played the man.
I’d rather see some balance, see you tell us exactly where you DISAGREE and agree rather than play the man but i understand that leaves you in quicksand territory, you like solid safe ground. HH
DELANEYS DUNKY on 5TH JANUARY 2019 12:50 AM
Ernie
Eric Riley is a protestant, a mason and a Rangers supporter. Perfect for our aĺl inclusìve board. ?
Even if that was true he’d have much more in common with most Celtic supporters than you