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Beaton threshold on kicking, stamping and the rest

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We deservedly lost at Ibrox on Saturday, so it would have been inappropriate to apportion any responsibility towards referee John Beaton, for the free reign Newco player Alfredo Morelos had to kick Scott Brown, stamp on Anthony Ralston and assault the genitals of Ryan Christie during the game.

These things occasionally happen in football (although seldom in such quantities) and are picked up by the SFA review process.  What is exceptional about these circumstances is that the review process is unable to act as the referee claims to have witnessed each incident and determined no action was worthy of a caution or more.

Beaton will have mitigated his decisions with some or other explanation, perhaps with “It wasn’t that bad a stamp” type comment.  This is how the process works.  The system is rightly designed to protect referees and allow them latitude to make decisions, including the occasional mistake.

It is not always easy to view common assault for what it is, in fact, it is easy to get carried away with an occasion and raise your threshold for such matters.  It is only human to be affected this way.  But this is bad refereeing.

Beaton could have taken the easy route out and claimed he missed one or more of the incidents, each was off the ball, after all.  That would have allowed the review panel to dispassionately decide if such attacks are to be prohibited, or encouraged, in our game.  Instead, he affirmed that in his view, there was nothing in Morelos behaviour worthy of a caution.

I have no idea what Dedryck Boyata said to earn his red card from John Beaton against St Johnstone earlier this season but I defended the referee’s decision that day.  You have to trust match officials to competently carry out their duties.  Do I still trust John Beaton’s views on kicking players, stamping, genital punching and the like?  No.  His views and significantly out of line with mine.

I don’t see a conspiracy in what happened this week, just a referee who was not up to the job.  A good referee would have cautioned Morelos for the first incident (kick on Brown).  This may have prevented the more serious attacks on Ralston and Christie, but the Newco player was not even spoken to after any of the incidents.

These are not easy games to officiate but this was not a game full of controversy or incident, only one player and one referee lost the plot.

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  1. * BZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz*

     

     

     

    ( a very poor effort as well, it must be said)

     

     

     

    :)

  2. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    Tom Rogic in the starting lineup V Jordan in the Asian cup.

     

     

    Kick off 1.15 mins.

  3. archdeaconsbench on

    Darren Bent reckons Rangers have pulled a major coup in bringing Jermain Defoe to Glasgow. ‘In his mindset he’ll want to score goals for Rangers and if theres a chance of getting back into the England squad, he’ll take it.’

     

     

    And they lap this up.

  4. SOUTHSIDE on 6TH JANUARY 2019 12:34 AM

     

    M6BHOY

     

     

    Acres of empty seat at Celtic park looks like apathy, not a protest. Why punish Celtic?

     

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    The likely attendance at that match will be every low due in part to the timing of the game, the standard of the opposition and this will be portrayed as apathy in any event. However, a near empty stadium will be regarded as a tangible sign that our supporters are no longer prepared to sit at the back of the bus.

     

     

    It will also send a message to other clubs that if we can boycott a match at CP then we can do the same at their middens. In addition, their corporate sponsors and TV broadcasters won’t be too happy with half-empty away grounds when we play. Finally, it will also send a message to our own board who I feel were forced to make the statement because of the fans fury.

     

     

    We have want they want and it’s called the green pound. The longer we keep it in our wallets, the greater the chance we will see real action being taken as the club’s statement has to be backed up with positive action.

     

     

    If we keep on paying then they keep on cheating.

  5. THE BIG QUESTION: WHY WAS McKENNA PUNISHED WHILE MORELOS ESCAPED?

     

    I have just read this article and only 3 Morales incidents are mentioned, when there were actually 4, this being the forearm smash on Ryan Christie which was possibly the worst of the lot. The video had been put up here a couple of days ago but when I went to view it again yesterday it had been removed due to copyright issues, strange huh?

     

     

    HH

  6. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    ONEMALLOY on 6TH JANUARY 2019 10:17 AM

     

     

    I saw that vid.

     

    You`re right.

     

    Worst of the lot. Much worse than the offence for which Simu was sent off at Ibrox.

  7. ONEMALLOY and MACJAY.

     

    I couldn’t agree more.

     

    I’ve been banging that drum for days, when the media etc all started talking about 3 incidents, I suspected he would be let off.

     

    The most obvious red card is the incident you mention and, of course, that was the one that it looks like Beaton didn’t see, so he couldn’t use the get out clause, that was used for the other 3 incidents.

     

    At least 4 other member clubs have issued statements about refs this year, nothing said about it. Gerrard in his first league game, at Pittodrie, called out the refs, nothing.

     

    Celtic issue a statement and all hell breaks loose. That tells you all you need to know.

     

    Hail Hail

  8. MACJAY1 FOR NEIL LENNON on 6TH JANUARY 2019 10:20 AM

     

    ONEMALLOY on 6TH JANUARY 2019 10:17 AM

     

    I saw that vid.

     

    You`re right.

     

    Worst of the lot. Much worse than the offence for which Simu was sent off at Ibrox.

     

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    Glad that you saw it and agree my friend

     

     

    HH

  9. Maxwell can get stuffed with his respect appeal, when as it has been shown and for which there is evidence that his organisation and its contractors in the form of referees and office bearers have many questions over their judgement and conduct to answer and for years, I appeal to Celtic and all interested clubs and fans to demand that this smokescreen about beaton is not allowed to stop this process, and that investigations must take place by an outside agency, cheats cannot be allowed to win

  10. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    Well all 3 Celtic deals appear to be very near completion so you worriers can relax as we move on to other players.In my opinion we will get a minimum of another two in before the window closes a centre back and a right back. H.H.

  11. Good morning CQN from a bit more hopefull Garngad

     

    That’s good we got 3 signing projects in yesterday.

     

    Now for the first team ready ghuys to come in.

     

     

    Over to you Pedro, get the real cash oot.

     

    I am beginning to sound like Kev ffs.

     

     

    HH

     

     

    D. :)

  12. Looks to me as if this whole situation has been fixed from before the game, so that the cheating can become ever more blatant. Honest mistake doesn’t begin to cover it now.

     

     

    Celtic make a statement and the Establishment goes into overdrive. No coincidence in my opinion. They have been waiting for just this moment.

     

     

    Imagine what would happen in an independent Scotland…..

     

     

    We have not been paranoid enough.

     

     

    Dallas being rewarded for his bigotry was the last straw for me.

  13. PB- the huns will be trying to con Southampton and Bournemouth, as they did last year to Norwich for Dorrans and Martin, they have no shame.

  14. Rangers v Celtic row ref John Beaton: Hoops force referee summit after SFA’s Old Firm outburst

     

     

    A headline from The Hun….

  15. The huns are gambling on winning this seasons SPFL.

     

    ITS SHIT OR BUST.

     

     

    We have yet again given the drowning man ,mouth to mouth and life saving oxygen.

     

     

    We should have been ramming the water hose down their throats and turning the water on full blast.

     

     

    If we win 8 .

     

    They are fecked.

     

     

    The real reason we are not spending big is we can’t afford to.

     

     

    We need CL income otherwise we will make a huge loss.

     

    We didn’t get it .

     

    Therefore the money from player sales is needed to offset losses.

     

     

    TT

  16. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    JIMMYNOTPAUL on 6TH JANUARY 2019 11:00 AM

     

    ONEMALLOY on 6TH JANUARY 2019 11:02 AM

     

     

    Beaton patently didn`t see that assault therefore that is the one which should have been used for the appeal.

     

     

    I wonder if that`s still possible or is there only one appeal ?

  17. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    Jimmy

     

     

    Sorry.

     

    You just said that.

     

    :-)

     

     

     

    Watching the toothless socceroos , currently one down.

     

     

    Tom limps off at half time . :-(

  18. We were linked with a defender from PSV in yesterday’s cyber press.

     

     

    So I called my mates in Roermond.

     

     

    4 of them out there.

     

     

    They then spoke to the guys that they know ,that support PSV.

     

     

    The consensus was .

     

    He is going to Besiktas.

     

    That he was a tough defender.

     

    He has played 1 match for them this season ,despite being fit for selection.

     

    He is not a good enough footballer to play for PSV.

     

     

    I don’t know if there was any truth in the rumour ,but it would appear the guy is not that good.

     

     

    TT

  19. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    Bada

     

     

    The hun culcha.

     

     

    Kick people when they are down.

     

     

    Truly. That`s the difference.

  20. JIMMYNOTPAUL on 6TH JANUARY 2019 11:00 AM

     

    ONEMALLOY and MACJAY.

     

    I couldn’t agree more.

     

    I’ve been banging that drum for days, when the media etc all started talking about 3 incidents, I suspected he would be let off.

     

    The most obvious red card is the incident you mention and, of course, that was the one that it looks like Beaton didn’t see, so he couldn’t use the get out clause, that was used for the other 3 incidents.

     

    At least 4 other member clubs have issued statements about refs this year, nothing said about it. Gerrard in his first league game, at Pittodrie, called out the refs, nothing.

     

    Celtic issue a statement and all hell breaks loose. That tells you all you need to know.

     

    Hail Hail

     

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    I think this incident was seen by Douglas RED CARD RED CARD Ross!!

     

     

    HH

  21. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    ONEMALLOY on 6TH JANUARY 2019 11:59 AM

     

     

    Couldn`t have missed it.

     

    Unless he was doing a Nelson.

  22. ` That’s good we got 3 signing projects in yesterday.`

     

     

    How can a six month loan be a `project`?

     

     

    JJ

  23. Praise for Lennybhoy of this parish.

     

     

    I saw the other day a poster saying that they did not trust the MSM or the internet sources with regards to transfer stories.

     

     

    That they would prefer to trust in the posts from Lennybhoy and another poster.

     

     

     

    I don’t know the other poster ,but I do know Lennybhoy.

     

     

    He is one of the finest human beings to don a Celtic scarf.

     

    A Celtic supporter ,who attends the matches.

     

    Not just a Celtic fan,but a supporter.

     

    He lives out the charitable ethos of Celtic also.

     

     

    A 10 out of 10 Bhoy.

     

     

    I have communicated directly with Lennybhoy my views on his previous inside knowledge of Celtics transfer actions.

     

     

    His source is either very poor or taking info from the likes of Celtic News Now and passing it on.

     

     

    For 4 transfer windows Lennybhoy was communicating transfer news that was already in the public domain via the web news agencies and click bait sites.

     

     

    The success rate of his posts was no higher that the click bait sites.

     

     

    Therefore his source could claim some success ,but most of the tips never happened.

     

     

    I suggested after the last window that he should not trust his source as being credible.

     

     

    I’m delighted to see that he isn’t being fooled this window .

     

     

    Well done Lennybhoy.

     

     

    TT

  24. Tinytim and David 66

     

     

    From one of the CQN articles at the side of the page:

     

     

    ” Weah, son of Liberian legend George, is on his way to Dubai to catch up with his new team-mates after his club agreed another temporary transfer for one of their hottest prospects – but this time there will be no “right-to-buy” clause in his six-month contract.”

     

     

    JJ

  25. The hands cant hit what the eyes cant see on

    @ TINYTIM on 6TH JANUARY 2019 11:49 AM

     

     

    “We need CL income otherwise we will make a huge loss.

     

     

    We didn’t get it .

     

     

    Therefore the money from player sales is needed to offset losses.”

     

     

    We had £40m in the bank before we sold Dembele. We had a net transfer spend of zero last year before we sold Dembele. We then received a further £20m for the sale of Dembele.

     

     

    When we have money in the bank, we can’t spend it because it is being saved up for a rainy day. When the rainy day arrives we sell players in any event, in addition to hoarding the huge cash reserves we have. It makes you wonder, what is the point of having all this cash if we refuse to spend it come what may?

     

     

    Our failure to invest in the team will invariably lead to more rainy days; we are talking about being in a title race this year, nevermind the challenge of qualifying for the CL next year. We had the opportunity to make 3 CL group stages in a row with a little bit of investment- we failed to do it.

     

     

    Time and again, our short sightedness backfires. Even now we are talking about making 3 signings, two of whom will be gone by summer. It’s patch work on top of patch work.

  26. HS – it was a bit of tongue in cheek.

     

    I really (obviously) hope all the bhoys hit the ground running.

     

     

    I still think we need a couple of old heads in there, a RB and CB

     

     

    HH

     

     

    D. :)