“We weren’t as sharp as we usually are. A lot of my players looked tired, too many of them simply weren’t in this game,” said the Celtic manager after a 0-0 draw with Hibs, a result that would allow Rangers to close the gap at the top of the table to one point.
The manager in question was Wim Jansen after a game in April 1998, the “Rangers” in question was Oldco, not Newco.
Yesterday’s Celtic performance was miles better than the one 24 years ago and yesterday’s Hibs were superior to the Hibs team relegated back then. Those of us who were there, use it as a counterbalance when red lights appear to go off. You can win a difficult league even when you cannot win important games.
Wim, in his first (and last) season at the club, remained calm, despite the alarming performances at the most crucial of times for Celtic. He knew he needed to lead the players and the entire club through a difficult period.
I see parallels between Wim and Ange, their softly spoken demeanours, tactical insight and determination to keep all eyes on the prize. Yesterday’s result and performance is not what the manager or anyone wants to see, but bedwetters better wear a nappy, we are in capable hands.
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MADMITCH on 28TH FEBRUARY 2022 1:43 PM
“Launching it up the park” was left behind 20 years ago for a good reason.
the quicker you put it up , the quicker it comes right back at you.
Starfelt and Hart are the issues here, not the principles of playing it through lines. Particularly in the 88th minute when everything depends on carving out a chance.
It’s well known that playing Thursday Sunday is hard and often turns up results like our one and the Huns. We were tired as were Huns who surrendered a 2 goal lead. Or did their bottle crash?
I feel we will return to form on Wednesday and I am looking forward to it.
Calum McGregor looks tired maybe he is in need of a rest.
Biton is too slow for Angeball.
NORRIEM on 28TH FEBRUARY 2022 2:26 PM
Supersutton
Can I ask, you defend Celtic playing the ball around our back line, and retaining possession
Thoughts on yesterday ?
Joe Hart comes outside the box, still inside our 6 yard line though, to take a free kick, passing the ball forward 5 yards to Carl Starfelt, who plays it back, After a couple of other passes, not getting beyond our 6 yard line area, but with Joe Hart still outside the box, we concede a corner.
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Easy to defend that – in line with the statistics we didn’t concede a goal either from losing the ball or from the corner.
On the other hand, everyone can see that the cause of that situation was bad decisions and bad passes. There were any number of choices available that would have had a better outcome.
Booting the ball up the park may also have been the right thing to do – but the stats say it may also have cost us a goal.
And to re-iterate. When we DO concede because of (badly) passing the ball around the back, I’ll be inundated with “told ye so”.
And I will reply – “No. I told YOU so :)”
Maditch think you fall into the chump category.
Trying to elevate yourself on this blog will never work.
Once a chump always a chump.
Have you ever turned up at any Celtic supporters get together with your wee Park the bus pal and go onto stand in front of them and call them names.
Dont think so.
Best to stay in your hone box and have a swally with your mate.
BP1 will be on soon to tell you he loves ya tae bits.
Chumps need not turn up on Friday or even request to.
D :)
BIGBHOY @ 2:54
It’s well known that playing Thursday Sunday is hard and often turns up results like our one and the Huns. We were tired as were Huns who surrendered a 2 goal lead. Or did their bottle crash?
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Agree with most of the above – I don’t think there is any “bottle-crashing”, at Ibrox, however seeds of doubt have been sown.
I too have a feeling we may ‘bounce back’ to form on Wednesday…. however I still find it strange the amount of apprehension there is whenever a Livingston game is on the cards……but of course it is understandable, they are our bogie and have ‘stung’ us too many times.
I see my defence of our defence should also have included Madmitch.
Apologies MM – but I scroll past your posts as I cannot decipher the abbreviations. Ironic that your post on this topic didn’t have any.
Have to say that booting it up the park in that instance was entirely the right thing to do. I’d sooner be dealing with the consequences of the ball midway through the Hibee half of the pitch than fannying around by our own corner flag, especially when Hibs knew that was what we were going to do. There are of course a great many occasions when a speculative punt may NOT always be the better option, but our players have to be free to vary things and not feel too pressured into slavishly adopting a predictable approach. They are not robots.
Most of the time when we play the ball out,we do it well leaving a CH space to bring it out.When we have a problem its usually down to JH,having a brain freeze.Like Sunday.Absolutely ludicrous decision.No one,and I mean no one can defend that.Madness.
I think Wed will be a hard fought game and we will run out 2-1 winners with a goal in each half. Consolation for them late on
Livi on Sat will be a 4-0 drubbing. 3-0 up at half time
mon the Hoops!
I thought the Hart – Starfelt thing yesterday was a bit of an outlier. In the main I think we’ve improved a lot in that area since the start of the season.
Hibs tactics were less parking the bus as flooding the midfield and when they won it, had no interest in doing anything with it. Strange ole tactics for a home team.
HH
Defending in Hibs half has got be better than playing football on our own by line.
I know we all want to play the ball out from the back but in yesterday’s case and those against St Midden and Livingsthun we have to move the ball quicker when our opponents commit players forward, if that means the odd pass over the top at an angle then so be it. It gets us in behind and we are not short of players with pace.
D :)
David 66 @ 3.15,
Far too much beating about the bush there.Never mind the niceties,come straight out and say what you think.
You will feel better for it :-).
SUPERSUTTON
I am with you on the playing out from back being the safer option but as you said in your post when we do concede from this your inbox will be full!
”bedwetters of the world, unite and take over”
It wasn’t just playing it out from the back, but we were deep into injury time and needed to get up the park quickly. Joe Hart is such a key player for us and has earned the right to do as he is comfortable with.
Am i a bedwetter.?
I would have punted it up the park
BIGBHOY
I agree with you on that incident, was screaming at the screen. It looked amateur but in general……….
Had a quick look at the three scorecards from Saturdays Taylor fight and recall some on here suggesting some shenanigans….
All three judges agreed on 10 of the 12 rounds scoring, with just rounds 4 & 12 making the difference.
I think many bought into the inherent bias of the SKY commentary team who had Catteral 4 up after 4, while 2 judges had 3-1 to Taylor and the other saw it 2-2. That set the wrong tone that Taylor was way behind, and even Catteral’s coach admitted that he ran & hid for the last 4. With that in mind, all Taylor needed was to pick up 1 round from Rds 5-8 and there you have your majority split decision.
No fix, just the judges applying a shared and unbiased view that ran contrary to the English jingoistic commentary team.
Playing out from the back only works when you give 2/3/4 options as teams cannot press all of them at once so the whole team is responsible not to allow our centre half and keeper get into those situations and we have been good at this imo.
Yesterday, yes, Hibs had a plan but more application by the players of those forward, reverse angle or diagonal passes would have taken out their structure. Too many players off it yesterday.
That being said Hibs diving and claiming for everything, most dissapointing from Shaun. I would have lost my temper playing that side, with the complicit ref who appears to listen more to his linesman and 4 official rather than what he sees.
Expected better from Hibs, shouldn’t of.
Amazing statements in the UN from the Ukraine Ambassador.
Not sure if broadcast over here yet. Will be any minute soon.
NOTTHEBUS
It’s not winning it’s the way we are not winning if that makes sense,we are powder puff since the Motherwell game and i don’t know why.Why we didn’t have young Dawson on the bench only Ange knows.
BIGBHOY @ 3:52
It wasn’t just playing it out from the back, but we were deep into injury time and needed to get up the park quickly. Joe Hart is such a key player for us and has earned the right to do as he is comfortable with.
I would have punted it up the park
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If you are desperate with time is running out, and need to score a goal, then of course you must have the ball as near to the opponent’s net as possible – that is where goals are scored.
How many times have we seen teams who play the “beautiful football” and would never be seen dead ‘lumping it forward’, do exactly that ‘at the death’ when they need to score to save the game – goalkeepers are sent into the opposition box at corners and free-kicks. The hunt to score the perfect goal is abandoned, and rightly so!
When we next play Livingston will we again let them neuter us with two banks of five, which it has proven we are incapable of breaking down….or will we mix it up and try our luck with some ‘second balls’? Let’s face it, on past form, it must be worth a try. Livingston won’t change – we should!!
CORKCELT
Very good comments although i don’t know what actually happened with BIG JIMMY.He certainly needs this place.
POR CIERTO – Totally agree. Of the guys who are getting games, only Calmac, Rogic, JF and Bitton have been over the course a few times with us and know what it is like to be part of a winning team, season after season. All of them are accustomed to playing for a team where an occasional title or cup win does not count as success.
Of the rest, in defence, Hart knows this kind of pressure and should be comfortable with it.
On the other hand, I assume it is all a pretty new experience for Scales, Taylor (more or less), Welsh, Starfelt, CCV, Ralston (more or less) and Juranovic.
In the middle of the park, the new guys like Hatate, Ideguchi and O’leary probably have nothing to compare to the level of expectation that they now face, even though some have enjoyed success elsewhere. Turnbull came in too late to be a part of the perennial winners. McCarthy has bags of experience but not as a winner.
Up front, Abada and Jota have no experience of this yet we are expecting them to play as if they are seasoned professionals with nerves of steel. GG played for a team fighting relegation.
Kyogo and Maeda, like Hatate, have been there or thereabouts in title fights in Japan but I am guessing the level of pressure here is on another level to anything they experienced at home.
When I watch the games, I want them all to perform as they did in that first 45 mins against sevco. When you consider their lack of experience, I realise that I am being completely unrealistic. They are human and the pressure they are now under will be affecting them.
Fingers crossed that Ange and his team can guide them through this, it will be the making or breaking of some of them.
Re the “Big Jimmy” saga.
I find his posts amusing and informative (if not always about Celtic!).
Surely there have been other posters on here who have said worse yet suffered no ban?
I for one would like to see him return and wish him all the best during his hopefully brief time in the “sin bin”…..
HAIRLIKESPAGHETTI on 28TH FEBRUARY 2022 4:00 PM
Taylor fight.
I agree, the coverage showed a distinct lack of expertise from even ex boxers and very unprofessional comments.
i must admit, i had Catterall ahead with 3 rounds to go but thought it would be very close at the end. I thought Josh’s point off may have blown it
The female summariser during the fight was the most even handed I think; she had it much closer and pointed out that the judges could have scored some of the early rounds the other way.
The Sky guy telling Taylor ‘you don’t score the fight’ when they didn’t like the judges scores was weird and Taylor looked bemused as well
Coneybhoy, agreed. I think that the commentary team backed themselves into a corner (forgive the pun) by trying to convey a possible shock underdog win after just three rounds. They had him 4 up after 4 which was ridiculous. The judges have scored tens of thousands of rounds and all had the first four rounds at least even and two leaning 3-1 to JT, completely contradicting the commentary view.
Carl Froch nailed it afterwards by saying you don’t win 4 belts by running scared in rounds 9-12. That is where JT won it, and the BBBC investigation into the scoring is just a front to appease an indignant English SKY team and their new favoured promoter…
Free the ‘BIG JIMMY 1’
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An old picture sent to me today rhat brings back happy memories of time spent. Not only a very fine coach, but also an absolute gentleman.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMr5pb0WQAc29rk?format=jpg&name=medium
I salute all who support a compassionate approach towards Big Jimmy. It’s what I expect from Celtic Supporters.
To the few who went the rules are rules approach I hope if ye need a bit of help anytime in the future that ye are shown a bit more compassion.
Making a post on a Blog is easy, the real Hero of the Blog is David 66, in the midst of the Pandemic when Big Jimmy needed practical help he was the man who answered the call.
To all of ye going to Big Jimmy’s swalley , hope ye have a good craic.
Hoping to see Big Jimmy back here soon,
Hail Hail
We’d be lucky to get £1 million for both GG & Maeda.
Only one true Tim frequently plays in Ange’s team, Tony Ralston, when he isn’t in the team we’re watching a Celtic team without a single Tim in it. That is a problem. Our greatest player in my book, King Kenny Dalglish, if not thee greatest player to ever play football on the island of Britain, he and countless other Celtic greats weren’t Tims, but they played in Celtic teams with a Tim heartbeat, Timness was a strong thread throughout the club, looks like its been replaced by Dimness?? maybe its time to pull the plug on the wholesale continental recruitment ‘life is a box of chocolates’ approach for a wee while, preferably for good, and recreate a ‘Tenement Tims’ ethic throughout the club again, for example I would’ve bought Kyogo but not the rest of the Japanese players instead I would’ve recruited Lewis Ferguson, Matty Kennedy, Conor Ronan, not Jota, but Alan Forrest, St Mirren centre half O’Shaugnessy should’ve been signed when he was at Aberdeen etc, etc, Efe Ambrose & Kelvin Wilson were our centre half’s when we beat Barcelona 2-1 in 2012, Tony Watt scored the winner, have we a forward just now, apart from, Kyogo, who is better than Tony Watt, just now?? Ambrose & Wilson were also our centre half’s in the same CL group in our away game to Barcelona, were we were holding that great team at 1-1 with only seconds to go, and we did so because, NFL (((parked the bus))) in midfield in front of, the (((parked bus))) in defence, now we seem to be too snobby to (((park the bus))) why is that?? now we can’t even get into Euro division 3 ffs, why is that?? players like Rogic, Bitton, should’ve been moved out years ago but no bids came in for them so they’re still here?? is this how we operate now, a players place in the team is secured until that player is sold no matted how much of a drain that player is?? I mean who do we think we are to turn our noses up at players in SPFL?? we should have managers who’ll manage and develop players, ‘any players’ like Steve Clarke did with Taylor at Killie, its as though the thinking is because we’re controlled by billionaires££££ then it must mean we’re a Champions League club, when we’re not even a Euro 3rd division club. Ange ball has saw to that. If the Scottish league was good enough for Stein to recruit players from then develop these players, why not Ange?? Scotland is where we play 90%+ of our football, spending money shouldn’t always be necessary either, but when a manager only knows one way to play, and everybody has him sussed, then it might turn out that Ange is worse than NFL was last year, then what?? sack Ange and bring in another puppet, because that is what we’ll get?? Ange is a PLC puppet or he wouldnt be at Celtic, and if Ange wasn’t at Celtic were else would he be?? this is no personal plug for me but, it might turn out that Ange could be helped because GvB isn’t cynical enough ie: GvB doesn’t know how to – (((park the bus))) – and enable the huns to sit on a lead, but that would mean what?? Celtic supporters having to suck up another year of a well and truly sussed out Ange?? even if he does manage to stumble over line?? inflicting an already sussed out manager onto Celtic supporters like Desmond tried to inflict on Celtic supporters back in 2009, after WGS had just blown 4 in a row because he’d been sussed out?? but Desmond virtually begged WGS PLC puppet to stay on for another year, but WGS couldn’t muster another year and quit, and Desmond replaced WGS with a manager, another puppet who’d just finished last out of 20 in the EPL and that was good enough for Celtic and its supporters?? BTM couldnt assimilate his mind set with the poisoned Scottish football environment, and factor in the ‘play the Celtic way mind set trap managerial graveyard so he crashed and burned in less than one season, gifting another title to the PLC’s business partners at Ibrox, imagine that. PLC’s are anti-EverythingThatCelticShouldButNoLongerStandsFor. That’s not the PLC’s fault. Its the fault of those who financially back££££ the PLC unquestioningly. asking about no hot water in the toilet is not the line of questioning required, and 53,000 customers are perfectly aware of that. Only they can change it but they can’t be bothered just now because they’ve not had 1990’s level prolonged hun mibbery misery inflicted upon them to make them angry enough to effect any change. So it’ll be on and on and on
A savvy ballsy uppity manager can make a team out of ‘any’ players CSC
CelticEarlyYears
@EarlyCeltic
From the well respected Scottish Athletic Journal on 14th February, 1888.
https://twitter.com/EarlyCeltic/status/1496851881515175939/photo/1
We are all Celtic supporters on this site and we all want our club to win everything and every game. If some who comes on supports our rivals, it bothers me not one jot….but why would they come on and what would they get out of it – seems pointless to me?
So assume we are all Tims, however just because we are doesn’t mean we all live identical lives, have the same values outside football, have the same political views, have the same sexual orientation, the same occupations, or, the same financial status. The Celtic support/family is not a homogeneous entity.
What I believe it should mean is that we, as Celtic people, treat each other with the respect that we ourselves would be expect to be treated.
” A club open to all” means something to me, and I’m sure the vast majority of our support.
There is great dignity in holding opposing views and discussing and debating vigorously, whilst respecting the humanity of your disputant.
The quality of civility is not strained, it is twice blessed – it blesseth him who gives and him who takes (apologies to William Shakespear)
not timmy enough, dearie me, border line
“Open To All”
is a precursor to some anti-nationalist rant.
Your all thickos, percentages, threat about schooling.
and we are daft enough to ban Jimmy rather than the upstart chumps.
2 on now, there will be another 3 within the half hour.
I have logged out of CQN very early on many occasions because of the prolific trolling of Park the Bus and his various monikers. I have never felt inclined to log out after reading Big Jimmy’s input.
Shakespeare!!!!