Billy and Davie on Caesar and the Assassin

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Billy McNeill and Davie Hay met the press at Celtic Park yesterday, along with Alex Gordon, who authored their time as managers of Celtic.  It didn’t disappoint……

Billy was self-effacing as ever.  For all purposes, today he is an ordinary Celtic fan, so much so you need to remind yourself that there is nothing in the club game he hasn’t done.  Yesterday was about his days as Celtic manager but he made the point that Davie Hay was a profound influence on him as a team-mate.

The take-away thought I had on Davie Hay was about his range of knowledge and experience.  He has done so much in the game which still pulses in his veins.  Does Scotland still produce men of his calibre?  If so, why are we not giving them a platform to flourish?

There is tons of great stuff in the book from both men:

“We were already a goal down nine minutes into the second-half when Johnny Doyle was ordered off.  As he came off, I remember telling him he would be in serious trouble if we lost.

“I was furious, especially as we were in such a desperate situation at the time.

“Afterwards in the foyer, Jimmy Johnstone, Bobby Murdoch, Mike Jackson, Paul Wilson, Pat McCluskey, Benny Rooney and a whole host of former players were dancing around in amazement.

“Jinky was as happy as I’ve seen him. That win meant so much to anyone with an affiliation with Celtic.”

– Billy McNeill on winning the league against Rangers in 1979.

“I arranged for someone to cut out the stories and pin them to the walls of our dressing room at Love Street.

“I said nothing, but I could see the players reading the clippings. It was having the desired effect. It’s never clever to dismiss Celtic.

“It’s history now that we won 5-0 and Hearts lost 2-0.

“I think I still owe [Albert Kidd] a pint!”

-Davie Hay on winning the league at Love St in 1986.

The book’s great, reading the step-by-step accounts of what happened from the managers’ view, you’ll love it.  I know I’m biased but it’s the best thing CQN has done, a wee bit of our history set down on record.

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  1. By accepting the no appeal rule united got what they deserved,

     

    By accepting the continual same club lie the other clubs get what they deserve,

     

    The only ones not to get what they deserve are the creditors,

     

    no change there for want of a better phrase.

  2. You say oldco and I say newco

     

    You like newco and I like oldco

     

    Newco, oldco, newco, oldco

     

    Let’s shut the whole thing down

  3. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    Bhoys You constantly get your hopes up that somone or some group will realise The Rangers are not doing anything by the rule book as we understand it.Now you constantly get you hopes dashed when the decisions are found in the Rangers favour and unfortunately that is not going to change so you are going to continue to be disappointed so you could save yourselves a lot of hurt if you understand the Rangers are the club of the establishment and will be protected by the establishment. H.H.

  4. Che

     

    17:23 on

     

    9 December, 2014

     

     

    Utd had no choice to accept the no appeal rule. It’s in the SPFL rulebook. It’s not something they signed up to just for this appeal.

  5. £1.5 million for Anthony Stokes? They’re ‘avin a giraffe guv. Watch some of those duffers in the financial doping league every week, who are valued at multiple millions and you realize that what’s offered is nothing more than an insult.

     

     

    I’m certain Ronny feels the same way, which is more important.

  6. I’m not upset about the outcome, I’m just astonished at how they just get away with it, I noticed that guys name there again from thems, is it Dickson? Who is he? He has been turning up at these tribunals for thems for the last three years, he the grand puba of tribunals or some thing, Al tell wut, he’s got some track record, he is batting 1,000 as they would say in the good ole US of A. Must be a big shot doon the ludge.?

  7. Club Statement

     

     

    Written by Rangers Football Club

     

     

    RANGERS has received today the decision of the SPFL Compensation Tribunal and are content with the fee Dundee United have been ordered to pay for the training and development of Charlie Telfer who was at the Club for a period of 10 years.

     

     

    The payment awarded, which was significantly higher than Dundee United’s final offer, vindicates the Club’s decision to take the matter to a Compensation Tribunal.

     

     

    Dundee United introduced a late argument stating Rangers should only be awarded compensation for the training and development of Charlie Telfer for 2 years instead of the 10 years that he was with the Club. They argued the Club in its current form has only existed for two years.

     

     

    It is disappointing Dundee United tried to pursue this tiresome, legally incorrect and provocative argument given that it has been repeatedly confirmed by the football authorities in Scotland and beyond that administration and liquidation of the companies that owned the Club did not break the continuity of the Club’s history or its record of honours won.

  8. If the undead do stumble into the big league next season, I for one won’t be watching. Just can’t bring myself to focus on all the bile and hysteria around these games.

     

     

    I’ll cut myself off from any media a few days before and after the game too, and on the day I’ll be up walking in the mountains and forests with the dug. Its purely an exercise in enjoying life, who needs to subject themselves to all that intensified hatred that they will bring with them? No thanks, life is too short.

  9. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    The Exiled Tim. That statement tells you everything you need to know.A scandal of gigantic proportions that no one will stop who says the truth always wins ? H.H.

  10. If the Ibrox franchise look as if they will make it to the end of the season,financially, but will not win the league, look out for the following” announcement from Hampden –

     

     

    ” for some years there has been a growing call from fans of all clubs to dispense with the present league format whereby clubs play each other four times per season.

     

     

    A sixteen team top division has been the top choice in all fan surveys.

     

     

    We believe that with Hearts, Hibs and Rangers now looking for promotion from the Championship and with the current twelve in the Premiership in much better financial health, now is the time to reconstruct our league set-up to that of a 16 – 16 – 12 i.e. Premiership – Championship – League One.

     

     

    The winners of the Highland and Lowland leagues will join League One.

     

     

    The new set-up will come in at the start of season 2015/16″

  11. I’ve never known a club’s history, or the honours it has won, ever graduate with badges from UEFA approved schools.

  12. Zombie FC statement:

     

     

    RANGERS has received today the decision of the SPFL Compensation Tribunal and are content with the fee Dundee United have been ordered to pay for the training and development of Charlie Telfer who was at the Club for a period of 10 years.

     

     

    The payment awarded, which was significantly higher than Dundee United’s final offer, vindicates the Club’s decision to take the matter to a Compensation Tribunal.

     

     

    Dundee United introduced a late argument stating Rangers should only be awarded compensation for the training and development of Charlie Telfer for 2 years instead of the 10 years that he was with the Club. They argued the Club in its current form has only existed for two years.

     

     

    It is disappointing Dundee United tried to pursue this tiresome, legally incorrect and provocative argument given that it has been repeatedly confirmed by the football authorities in Scotland and beyond that administration and liquidation of the companies that owned the Club did not break the continuity of the Club’s history or its record of honours won.

  13. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on

    Shameful decision and statement from the orcs.

     

     

    the problem arouse before the spfl came into being and the rules have obviously been written to suit the dead club..

     

     

    These rules must have ratified by the clubs…..including Celtic. ..

  14. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    tonydonnelly67. I honestly think fella if you took that statement to a Scottish court and claimed it was incorrect you would lose and be laughed out of the Court.Its another remember who you are timmy and know your place.H.H.

  15. Thinking about Dundee United players and judgements,

     

     

    Whatever happening about the Paul Paton assault on Lukas Zaluska?

     

     

    EC67

  16. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on

    TD

     

    they know and we know they died..

     

     

    thats enough for me too..

  17. What’s the maximum points deduction for bringing the game into disrepute? If you’re constantly asking why Celtic don’t speak out. There’s your answer.

  18. In other news…

     

     

    Gollum is the ref for the Rubentus v Atletico Mad game tonight.

     

     

    HH!!

  19. Last night saw a post stating, RIP JimMcNulty..Never in a million years did I think it would be work colleague and fellow Celtic fan Jim McNulty.Everyone that new Jim will be in utter shock and disbelief.Jim was blessed with all thr traits you find in a top class guy.

     

    REST IN PEACE JIM

  20. So there you go, newco is oldco.

     

     

    I’m sure they’ll stick to that if there’s another admin, right?

  21. So why they not get any money for all those players who walked away for nothing then, so thems got £200,000 for this kid, and Southamton got £80, grand for Davis? Yes/no?