Billy Dodds, who was named by the BBC as a beneficiary of Rangers Employee Benefit Trust, wrote in today’s Sunday Herald on the subject. He alleges Rangers paid him money, which should have been taxed as income, through an EBT.
Dodds wrote, “David Murray came to me and asked if I would receive a payment that was due to me, after tax, through the EBT trust. And I said that I would. It was money that was owing to me when I had six months left on my contract and I moved to Dundee United. After the tax was deducted, that money was put in the trust fund.”
What happened to the “tax… deducted” is the crucial question. Dodds is clear. This was money due to him through his contract of employment which should have been taxed. The seriousness of the allegations against Rangers just cranked up a notch – and from a surprising source.
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this is all great stuff
but im a greedy barsteward…i want referees to be involved in this!!!!!
i want the whole house of cards to come falling down
i also want the whole “Celtic, never defeated, always cheated” pash to be shown up for what it is
Hun p*sh
taken from the huddleboard, which in turn has taken it from comments posted on the RTC
Well I have been debating all afternoon whether or not I should post this but here goes. My best friend is a solicitor and works for the foreign office and has told me that South Africa have applied for international arrest warrants for Dave King and David Murray. The foreign office have so far rejected all calls for this as the police, HMRC and SOCA are investigating what they say is one of the biggest money laundering schemes Scotland has ever seen and believe they have a case under UK jurisdiction.
South Africa believe that King has laundered up to £100 million through the Murray Group but my pal says as of yet there is no reason to believe any of the money went through Rangers. The money that has went through the Murray group may have bounced of up to 20 ‘dummy’ companies in countries like Barbados, Zimbabwe, Brazil and Scotland and were set up to buy ore metals from each other even though each company had no physical ore deposits. They apparently have rock solid evidence of this that would implicate King, King’s mother and David Murray. They are arguing that the people supposedly in charge of Kings trust are in fact fictional people as so far they have been unable to trace any of the declared trustees.
SOCA (Serious Organised Crime Agency) have had forensic investigators combing through Murray International holdings accounts for 6 months now and the list of possible money laundering just keeps growing. MURRAY SPORTS LIMITED which IS associated with Rangers have declared assets of under £10,000 yet have received loans of up to £40 million. There is no evidence to suggest this involves Dave King but certainly may indite Murray and apparently (I really have been doubting this) some very high ranking officials with the former Bank Of Scotland. Llyods have handed dossiers over to SOCA and the Police that show historic accounts from BOS handling of Murray Internationals accounts. The dossiers contained documents that BOS and Murray thought had been destroyed but the ‘Carbon Copies’ that were used to copy the hard documents where not destroyed and were digitalised when Llyods took over BOS.
Murray and King have had an injunction put in place to stop media reports on this and an appeal has been lodged by a major news organisation.
As soon as I find out any more I will let you guys know. The guy is my best friend and I have no reason to not believe him as he is very high ranking in his position.”
Morning CQNer’s
I may be in a minority but, I still believe the trail of tax-dodging leads as far back as when, Mo Johnston signed for the huns!!!
A couple of months after Judas went to the huns, Jim White interviewed the cretin on Scotsport one sunday afternoon I’d say about, Nov-Dec 1989.
Now, during the interview JW asked MJ if he had gone to the huns instead of Celtic because of, more salary to which MJ replied – “No the wages on offer from Celtic where on a par with the one’s I’m on here at Rankers.” Much to JW’s annoyance :)
MJ continued ” I had a ‘tax-bill’ from my time at Nantes of, £150,000 which, Celtic couldn’t look at but, Rankers took care of that for me when I joined.”
Now, a ‘tax-bill’ of £150,000 in 1989 was a LOT of dough! IMO!
So, for me…there it is in a nutshell…..the Souness/Murray years were based on, licensed tax-evasion!
EVERY trophy from the Murray era should be strippped! IMO.
Hail Hail
Holy God Brendan Behan. I don’t know what else to say.
brendan-behan on 28 May, 2012 at 09:06 said:
And the Auld Triangle went jingle bloody jangle…
Brendan Behan
What’s the reacton to this from RTC? (can’t access at work) If this is on the money, it is huge!
How much more is there?!?
Oh what a beautiful morning !
Oh what a beautiful day !
I got a beautiful feeling…
HH
hen1rik on 28 May, 2012 at 08:45 said:
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It’s my understanding that – liquidation = no players/stadium/murray park ?
The CVA stuff is a compendium of snakes ‘n’ ladders that i canny
get ma hied around ?
I would take liquidation which, would probably mean the end of
Scottish fitba and, increase our chances of getting out of
‘The Land That Time Forgot’ – Scotland :)))
Hail Hail
SparkleGhirl
starry plough
I’d put nothing beyond the realms of possibility,
the potential combination of Edinburgh Grammar School megalomaniac Bankers and Minty make for some scary scenarios, can you imagine a hun supporting fred goodwin combined with the bluster of minty and a WATP attitude
Could be a very interesting day not much wriggle room left for EVERYONE involved.
TICK TOCK TICK TOCK goes the dignity clock.
HAIL HAIL
brendan-behan
Long may yer bushy tail swing!
Hail Hail
Every time Doncaster opens his mouth with positive words about Rangers, or some journalist makes encouraging noises about them, James Forrest comes on and rants and raves about how Celtic must now make a statement, or better still, start legal action . . . against whom and on what basis, he never seems to want to tell us.
James, I generally enjoy your contributions, but has it never occurred to you that the reason why Celtic are keeping quiet and refusing to react to every positive Rangers “story” or rent-a-quote pronouncement might be because, like most of us, yjey can see through the crap and like most of us, they know how much trouble Rangers really are in, and no amount of media hyperbole or Donkey shite is going to change the reality of their situation.
You can panic all you want every time some nomark raises the hopes of the Rangers support, just don’t expect everyone else to fall in line, and what’s more, stop getting angry at those of us who see no reason to panic.
Hail Hail
brendan-behan on 28 May, 2012 at 09:25 said:
Rangers are just the tip of a very big and very dirty Iceberg….
Some very naughty boys involved…
KevJungle – “1st Flag on the JUNGLE roof for LENNON’S LION’S” on 28 May, 2012 at 09:24
Ok matey cheers for replying.
here,
when do these runts actually die?
Half Time Tombola
No real debate on the topic yet, in my opinion it is sooo left field that it could have some legs, suppose well need tae wait and see,
Anyway . . .
Hector is ironingn his best suit as we speak and the fat lady is clearing her throat.
I’m not sure how money laundering at MIM, if it’s true, would constitute a nuclear option for rankers.
Any thoughts?
Many thanks to the Eire Go Bragh CSC for their hospitality on Saturday night in Beal Feirste, a great time was had by all, the head is now finally clearing and the liver is thinking about going back to normal functioning.
Also wee mention for John Clark, Joe McBride and the irrespressible Bertie Auld, all 3 made time for anyone who wanted a chat or an autograph.
Green Lantern (((((0))))) on 28 May, 2012 at 09:32 said:
Well I see it like this, Mister A is a crook in Town A how likely is it that Mister A will not be a crook in Town B??
So if Mister A has business in both towns and one is found to be crooked what chance the other one will be too??
Starry
starry plough on 28 May, 2012 at 09:28
By naughty boys do you mean corporate naughty boys or organised crime naughty boys or even legitimate promoters ?
,
I was speaking to a Hun yesterday who has met yer man Green on two occasions – and has previously met Corrupt Dave, Whyte, Murray-The-Sequel and Kennedy. In short, he is moving in the circles of Huns getting briefed over the future of the club.
I was astonished at his levels of denial and how deluded he is regarding the situation. He is clearly grasping for any positive news, regardless of how absurd it may be.
The guy agreed with every point I made, which should have punctured his optimism, but he just refused to accept the reality of the situation.
starry plough. I can see your line of thought and don’t disagree with it.
My point is that it only goes nuclear if there is EVIDENCE that Mr A has also been a crook in town B.
Good morning from a lovely sunny D-land. Just a thought re the “money laundering”, could the EBT have been part of the money laundering scam?
tam cowan being a racist hun once again how do these people get a platform last 2 lines of this
By Tam Cowan on May 5, 12 08:45 AM in
Do you realise that Lionel Messi has now scored the same number of goals this season – 68 – as Arsenal, the team that’s third top of what’s widely regarded as the best league in the world?
That’s absolutely incredible. Mind you, I still wouldn’t swap him for Michael Higdon.
Tell you what else is pretty cool, the Barca superstar’s name is now part of everyday language.
Just the other night, I was invited to a stag night that I was warned might get a wee bit “Lionel” (ie, messy).
I’d love to discuss other names from the world of football that have been adopted as slang terms but I must dash – I’m desperate for a Craig Whyte.
What about the match that’s being replayed – after the WINNERS appealed.
East Lothian outfit Pencaitland insist a crucial goal against Tweeddale Rovers should not have stood.
Brilliant. And I can assure you it’s never too late for the same sort of sporting gesture from Geoff Hurst & Co.
A snooker-daft couple got engaged in front of a sell-out crowd at the Crucible.
On their wedding night, do you think the groom will insist on keeping one foot on the floor? (© Max Miller 1948).
Meanwhile, Steve Davis says the recently retired Stephen Hendry is the Tiger Woods of snooker. Is that because he fell for a Tart?
Thought for the week … do you think the Thai Tims stitched any of the boots or jerseys the Celtic players were wearing on Thursday?
brendan-behan on 28 May, 2012 at 09:38 said:
I think we have seen enough corporate crime scandals in the last few years to see that the corporate world is not averse to sh***ing all over the rules and where’s there’s money you will always find criminals, even this morning we see a new match fixing scandal rock the Italian game with the Championship winning manager involved.
I only have a gut feeling about the rangers scandal no proof what so ever only the same stuff that everyone on here can read, in saying that I feel when it all comes out the beloved fabric of Alex Salmond’s Scotland will get the boot up the arse it so richly deserves..
By the way Alex you’re very quiet these days..
Celtic in my opinion must be better informed that I am and therefore in my opinion that is the reason for their silence in this game of poker..
It’ll all come tumbling down soon so we can get back to talking about Celtic and the Champions League..
the “money laundering” issue is a rumour albeit a strong rumour, as with many of the tales regarding this saga there are stories, rumours and counter rumours, wee bit of caution wouldnt go amiss here when individuals are being identified as being involved in alleged criminality.
‘Money laundering is like a new signing’…..Mark Hateley
donegalpaul on 28 May, 2012 at 09:45 said:
It’s not really racist. Just a really cack-handed attempt to suggest there’s an element of hypocrisy in Celtic helping out the Thai Tims.
It was on this day in 1888 that the Celts ran out for the club’s first ever match. Our opponents at the first Celtic Park that day were Rangers and there was no sign of the Hoops – with Celtic playing in white shirts, with a green collar and a red and green Celtic cross as the badge. The Celtic team read: Dolan, Pearson, McLaughlin, Willie Maley, Kelly, Murray, McCallum, Tom Maley, Madden, Dunbar, Gorevin. The final score was Celtic 5 Rangers 2, with James Kelly and Neilly McCallum scoring and Tom Maley grabbing a hat-trick.
From CelticFC facebook
Would I be correct to say that
former MIB – Mr JRP Gordon from the Mr Stein era
had to resign in shame after, being caught taking bribes
at the WCF’s in Argentina 1978 ?
Would i also be correct to say that, the LL of 1978
embarked upon their own version of – smoke ‘n’ mirrors
by, creating wall-wall coverage of Willie(junky) Johnston’s
drug taking scandal to, enable MIB JRP Gordon to slip
under the radar of media reportage ?
Johnston was sacrificed by the 1978 LL imo!
I would hazzard a guess and state that there where
more than a few sacrificed on the Mark Daly stuff
last week as well ?
Oh, I wonder when Walter ‘n’ Sally will make an appearance
on one of the ‘crimewatch’ show’s ?
Oh, and wiggy as well. Btw….why was wiggy recently over
in Brazil ??? mmmmmmmm
Hail Hail
donegalpaul on 28 May, 2012 at 09:45 said:
A shocking statement from Cowan. Thai Tims have responded to him on Twitter asking him if he thinks they stitched the shirts or boots.
The press this morning is full of positive noises about the CVA. But one piece of information seems to be missing – how much will actually be on offer to creditors. That will be interesting to see when the proposal is released.
It also seems that once the CVA is sent out old Charlie Green will pony up £3M to pay the bills while it is considered. Very generous of him!
That RTC post looks too detailed to be made up. I’m guessing it should be fairly easy to validate via the poster’s solicitor contact. A couple of phone calls from RTC would be able to confirm it or rubbish it.
I wonder if he is referring to the BBC and Mark Daly as the media which is trying to overturn the gagging order. If true, I’ll take as much pleasure watching Murray’s empire crumble as I have done watching RFC die.
The EBT has just got me thinking, a first I know. Is this trust still in existence and if so how much is still in it and also who currently controls this money?
If Davis and Papac were recipients of EBT money was this done when Minty was still at the helm, and not during CW’s tenure.
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon on 28 May, 2012 at 09:54 said:
Gordon it’s a bank holiday here today is it one in Scotland??
The most damning piece of evidence from the Mark Daly programme was when the wages secretary queried why Papacs wages and appearance money had gone down.
They asked, “so is he on an EBT now then?”
“Yes”, was the reply.
Why is South African issuing ‘International Arrest Warrants’ for Dave King? I though Dave King lived in South Africa.