Bitterest pill, hilarious, angry, ranting


News that the Maribor game later this month is on the season book has setup a dramatic climax to what will be remembered for decades as a remarkable month in our history.  We didn’t ask for this situation.  As we drifted away from Murrayfield, our thoughts were only of Celtic’s abject display, but nine days and two Uefa Disciplinary hearings later, we’re through to the Champions League play-off round next week.

For Legia Warsaw, the pill is unbearably bitter.  So much so, they had to appeal to Uefa, and on to the Court of Arbitration for Sport, despite scant cause.  CAS who will eventually be asked to determine if Uefa’s rules were interpreted correctly.  Which they were.  The consequences for Legia are so abrupt their reactions are understandable.

Football affects us in ways which are not always beneficial.  There was nothing Legia fans could do to remove their distress this past week, but reading comments, by fans of another Scottish club on this subject, has given a glimpse into the human condition.

The emotional investment by some Scottish football fans in Legia’s forlorn cause has evidently resulted in untold misery.  Celtic fell into the Clyde and came out holding a winning Euromillions ticket.  It was unplanned for, random and undeserved, but it happened and, right now, Celtic are the luckiest team in the world.

At a time when their phoenix club is falling apart before their eyes, our unearned good fortune has caused volumes of hilarious, angry, ranting.  Efforts to explain it as a consequence of immoral plots (as well as running the Celtic, the SFA, the SPFL, Glasgow City Council and The Commonwealth, Peter Lawwell also manipulates Uefa’s Disciplinary Body) demonstrate classic evidence of our old friend, Cognitive Dissonance.

We were blind lucky, accept that, or continue to give the rest of the world new and innovative ways to enjoy their football.  It’s not worth the dissonance.

It’s been an interesting week in the media.  Neil McCann’s excitable misinterpretation of the rules on Wednesday was a highlight, but the paper which brought you ‘news’ that Celtic wanted Dan Pertrescu to be manager, who declined as he was warned the club have problems by Neil Lennon, subsequently got a second story when they ran a properly sourced article denying ‘reports’ Neil spoke to Pertrescu.

I’m also loving reading those who in the media were spinning anti-Celtic nonsense that Neil left because he wasn’t happy with the player budget, now suggesting he could take over Crystal Palace, after Tony Pulis left because he wasn’t happy with the player budget.

Nonsense like this is never random, it has a purpose………..

On a related subject, I’m gutted for Palace, their fans, and for Pulis. The economics of the entire English league structure doesn’t work. Well-run clubs with good managers will be weeded out and relegated, as crazy debt-junkies inflate the bubble a little longer. Scottish football may be poor, but there are only two of our 42 clubs in any sort of financial danger.

Flag Day tomorrow, get along early, give Fergus a warm welcome back, and bring some change for The Kano Foundation bucket collection on the way in. Remember to join Fergus, Jim Craig and others from the Celtic Graves Society for the Jimmy Quinn event at Kilsyth Cemetery.

Thank you to everyone who gave so generously to Mary’s Meals by entering our competition for tickets in the comfy seats tomorrow.  I’m proud of every one of you.  My thanks also to Magners for helping out.  The competition is now closed, winners will be informed by email shortly, so check your inbox!

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  1. There was a post on here a few days ago, from the inside of CP that 37000 STs were confirmed sales.



    Not bad but -7k from last season.

  2. captain beefheart



    23:32 on 15 August, 2014





    CQN’s Tom Mc said 34, 000 or so. He has a contact.



    Kojo, Legia have to accept their fate. That fate is a trip to Kazakhstan to participate in a tin pot trophy.






    A wee correction tom actually said 37000 he had a niece who worked in the TO

  3. Captain Beefheart on

    Andy Carroll’s partner is called Billi Mucklow. Sounds like she could get a gig at the Record or Hun.

  4. Delaneys Dunky on




    Just in fae a wee sesh that BT started. Fine man he is, and great Celtic company. Thanks for your kind words auld pal. Much appreciated. Canny wait to get back to Paradise tomorrow.


    Hail Hail

  5. Captain Beefheart on

    Oops. Thanks Martibhoy. Also thanks to the poster who confirmed my point about 9 bookings. If anybody can find another such example of refereeing/cheating, do say please.

  6. Dallas Dallas where the heck is Dallas on

    Marrakesh, i have no doubt Wullie with his drive and ambition, would have been an asset to our club but something must have happened for him not to become more involved once Fergus left.



    Phyllis, I’m sorry you feel I am having a go at Wullie, that was not my intention. He is a succesful businessman and not in a Sir Skinty way, but I do feel there is something amiss that he isn’t in a prominent position in our club.



    We should be thankful to him for everything he did for our ginger genius in the latter years of his too short a life.

  7. Graham Spiers ‏@GrahamSpiers 42m



    @ellen_coyle @tedermeatballs What’s all this about?? Palestine is an utter tragedy, and it has touched on football. A piece about it…










    keith jackson ‏@tedermeatballs 41m



    @GrahamSpiers @ellen_coyle you don’t think palestine has more pressing issues than the state of its football?










    Kevin ‏@Kebo_75 23m



    @tedermeatballs @GrahamSpiers @ellen_coyle Greame is not a political correspondent so he is using football to highlight the tragedy…simple










    keith jackson ‏@tedermeatballs 22m



    @Kebo_75 @GrahamSpiers @ellen_coyle or seeking attention with a political football.










    Graham Spiers ‏@GrahamSpiers 16m



    @tedermeatballs @Kebo_75 @ellen_coyle You think I’m pointscoring on the deaths of people Keith? Are you pissed again on Twitter? Get to bed.











    Thekwisatzhaderach ‏@Thekwizatshader



    @GrahamSpiers @tedermeatballs @Kebo_75 @ellen_coyle @GlasgowsGreen He’s away to bed now or as it’s better known off the radar

  8. Captain Beefheart on

    Of course Doc. I am happy to out myself as a hypocrite.



    Good night, especially to those who never post. Why not? Bring some variety to CQN.

  9. martybhoy


    i thought it would be around 35-40000. For some reason there appears to be very few available on official site.

  10. captain b…



    I wish I could remember the details but the disparity between the fouls awarded to each side did not reflect the bookings and ordering off.

  11. Captain Beefheart, me too.



    If ever we are in the Ramsden Cup it’ll be THE most important trophy in our history:-)

  12. the glorious balance sheet



    21:58 on



    15 August, 2014




    I know HMRC bent over backwards to help Rangers out. I’ve read the e mails. I’ve read the deal to get a licence. HMRC could not have pulled out but would a Scottish Tax authority under Scottish control with only one country to worry about rather than 4 not been more open to pressure from its Ministers to settle?



    A couple of years back I would have looked at my post and think the guys mad.



    Two words for my distrust.









    Why is it very few think HMRC will get the nod until the BTC is held in London?



    Edinburgh. The money and the parliament together. Nobody looking over their shoulders. Two major Scottish banks needing bailed out after their pursuit of bonuses?



    You know what they say about absolute power.



    There has been a cover up of events taking place now within the SFA/SPL and with mainstream media not touching the CF material that tells an astonishing narrative of deceit by Rangers and SFA/SPL.



    Only one journo has gone near it and he was English.



    A switch from one dishonest government to our own dishonest government is not of itself going to make any difference.



    Now if someone stood up and said Scotland will be run on ethical grounds. They would get my vote if they had demonstrated I could trust them.



    Too much evasion going on for me in football, the media and government to trust things will be any different if we run our own affairs.



    It will be business as usual.

  13. Captain Beefheart..



    at 23.32



    Hiya Pal…nice tae Meet ye,again.



    If wid Appear.. Tae Me.. that You are Correct.



    Legia, hiv bin..




    HORNSWOGGLED! (Great woid,pal..ed) ( Ah think so.)



    Not By Celtic..



    But ..






    That’s why They Feel So Badly aboot this Sorry State of which they find Themselves..



    A Clear case of



    “This is Anither Fine Mess Ye hiv Goat us Intae, Stanley( or.. Casimir.. whitevah name Fits.)”



    Nice chatting ,Pal..



    As Alwiz..






  14. Captain Beefheart on

    Justafan, good evening,



    Me too. It interests me a lot (sad life I know) as I can’t think of another example.



    I seem to recall Sport sound after the game. Richard Gordon, Thick Hun and others were quite understanding to the ref.



    Dear Oh Dear..! MUPPET ALERT..!





    macanbheatha Oscar Abú



    01:48 on 15 August, 2014



    Lads when ever that xxxxxx tsd posts here just ask him what would Bobby Sands have to say about said situation as he stated awhile back that Bobby Sands condemned Ronald Reagan’s1983 Star Wars project two years after he died


    Enough said







    macanbheatha Oscar Abú



    02:03 on 15 August, 2014



    bobby murdoch’s curled-up winklepickers



    01:50 on 15 August, 2014





    And that was the closest he has ever been to the truth!



    Just mention Bobby Sands /Star Wars and he will slink away for a while







    Oiche mhaith daoibh







    The Quote From Bobby Sands Criticising Margaret Thatcher And Ronald Reagan…



    For Acting To Bolster The Defenses Of Western Europe….



    Against The Increased Threat From The Soviet Union In The Early Eighties..



    Came From The Pages Of The ‘Bobby Sands’ Diary’…..



    Posted On The Hallowed Pages Of This Sainted Blog….



    This Bolstering And Upgrading Of The West’s Defenses Was LATER To Be Nicknamed The “Star Wars” Initiative



    ..By The MSM….



    Capiche… Palomine ;-)






    It’s That Ole KevJungle MAGIC..!






  16. Regarding former posters……………………



    Who was it that used to give the shipping forecast thingy/general synopsis.



    “ high 200 mile was of Shetlands, moving south wets “







    The Real “Siege” of the Gaza Strip



    by Khaled Abu Toameh


    August 12, 2014 at 5:00 am




    Egypt has not only turned Gaza into an “open-air prison.” It has prevented the delivery of humanitarian aid to the Palestinians of the Gaza Strip before and during the war.



    Last year, more than 100 Muslim scholars signed a petition accusing Egypt and Arab countries of participating in the siege of Gaza by keeping Egypt’s Rafah border crossing with Gaza closed and preventing medical and humanitarian aid.



    Egypt does not want anyone to talk about its blockade of Gaza. At the cease-fire discussions taking place in Cairo, the Palestinians have been asked not to talk about the Rafah border crossing between Gaza and Egypt.



    The Egyptians want the world to blame only Israel for the “siege” on the Gaza Strip, and turn it into an Israeli, and not an Egyptian, problem.



    While Egypt continues to impose strict restrictions, hundreds of trucks of food and basic supplies — and ambulances and medical staff from Israel — are being transported into Gaza through border crossings with Israel.



    Whatever is ultimately decided, Hamas’s leaders will find ways to smuggle weapons into Gaza: their goal is to destroy Israel.



    Recent calls for lifting the “siege” on the Gaza Strip have ignored that Hamas’s main demand, even more than for an airport or seaport, is that Egypt reopen the Rafah border crossing, the Palestinians’ only gateway to the Arab world.



    Hamas wants open borders because it wants to pursue its ultimate goal of “liberating all Palestine, from the river to the sea.” Now that it has lost most of its smuggling tunnels as a result of Egyptian military operations, Hamas is searching for other ways to bring weapons into the Gaza Strip.



    Hamas’s leaders know that their chances of getting an airport or a seaport are extremely low. In the past, material brought into Gaza has included mainly weapons, cement taken to build attack-tunnels into Israel, and dual-use material.



    Much of this was either brought into Gaza through smuggling tunnels, or else through Egypt’s Rafah terminal, along its Gaza border which is nearly nine miles [14 km] long.



    Egypt’s Rafah terminal with Gaza, however, has been closed most of the time since Hamas seized control over the Gaza Strip in July 2007, while border crossings with Israel, such as Kerem Shalom and Erez, have remained open.



    The Rafah border crossing between Egypt and Gaza, January 2009. (Source: International Transport Workers’ Federation).



    Even during the current Operation Protective Edge, the Egyptians rejected demands to reopen the Rafah terminal indefinitely. In the first two weeks of the war, the Egyptians did open the terminal briefly – but only to allow Egyptians citizens and some foreigners trapped in the Gaza Strip to leave.



    Facing increased criticism at home and in the Arab world, the Egyptian authorities also permitted some wounded Palestinians to cross through the terminal for medical treatment in Egyptian hospitals.



    Egypt has not only turned the Gaza Strip into an “open air prison.” It has also prevented many activists and countries from delivering humanitarian and medical aid to the Palestinians of the Gaza Strip, both before and during the war.



    Egypt does not want anyone to talk about its blockade and other restrictions against the Gaza Strip.



    At the cease-fire discussions currently taking place in Cairo between Israel and Hamas through Egyptian mediators, the Palestinians have been asked not to talk about Egypt’s Rafah border crossing.



    The Egyptians want the world to blame only Israel for the “siege” on the Gaza Strip. They continue to ignore the fact that Hamas’s main demand continues to be the reopening of the Rafah border crossing.



    Hamas and the Palestinian factions in the Gaza Strip have apparently chosen to comply with the Egyptian demand to remain silent about the continued closure of the Rafah border crossing.



    In fact, the Palestinians seem to have lost any hope that Egypt would ever agree to the indefinite opening of the terminal. That is why Hamas is insisting, now more than ever, on an airport and seaport in the Gaza Strip that would serve as an alternative to the Rafah border crossing.



    Palestinian sources said that the Egyptians have encouraged the Palestinians to insist on their demand regarding an airport and seaport.



    When the Egyptians say that they support the Palestinian demand for lifting the “siege” on the Gaza Strip, they mean that the Palestinians are entitled to any border crossing except the Rafah terminal. Egypt would like the Palestinians to have their own airport and seaport so they would never have to use an Egyptian border crossing with the Gaza Strip.



    Moreover, the Egyptians would like to see the Gaza Strip turned into an Israeli, and not Egyptian, problem.



    In an attempt to divert attention from Cairo’s responsibility for the blockade, Egypt’s Foreign Ministry issued a statement this week calling on Israel to lift the “siege.”



    “Egypt insists on the lifting of the Israeli siege,” the statement read. “We are continuing our efforts to end the inhumane siege imposed by Israel on the Gaza Strip.”



    Today, it is a sign of hypocrisy that Egypt is calling on Israel to lift the “siege” on the Gaza Strip.



    The statement, of course, made no reference to Egypt’s role in the “siege.” Nor did the ministry mention the tough security measures taken by Egypt recently, including the destruction of more than 1600 smuggling tunnels along its shared border with the Gaza Strip over the past year.



    In the last three weeks, the Egyptian army destroyed 20 tunnels. This occurred as the Israel Defense Forces were also targeting tunnels inside the Gaza Strip.



    Yet this has not prevented the Egyptians from continuing with their efforts to mislead the world about the situation in the Gaza Strip.



    Alarmed by growing criticism of Egypt’s measures against the Gaza Strip, an Egyptian diplomat described the allegations as “lies and fabrications.”



    The Egyptian diplomat’s defense of his country came as representatives of the International Committee of the Red Cross and the Arab Red Crescent denounced Cairo’s refusal to allow humanitarian and medical aid into the Gaza Strip during the war as “unjust and incapacitating.”



    It also followed a call by a Palestinian foreign ministry committee to reopen the Rafah border crossing to save the wounded. The committee also condemned the closure of the Rafah as a “breach of international law and human values.”



    Last March, the Egyptian authorities deported 62 Western women who arrived in Cairo to protest against the closure of the Rafah border crossing. Egyptian Gen. Zakariya Hussein praised the authorities for deporting the French and Belgian women. “Egypt should not be used as a gate to other countries such as Libya, Palestine and Sudan,” he said.



    The anti-Egyptian campaign reached its peak last year, when more than 100 Muslim scholars signed a petition warning against the “crime” of keeping the Rafah border crossing shut.



    The petition accused Egypt and other Arab countries of participating in the siege on the Gaza Strip by keeping the Rafah terminal closed and preventing medical and humanitarian aid, and the destroying the smuggling tunnels.



    It is no secret that Egypt’s President, Abdel Fattah Sisi, sees Hamas, an offshoot of Muslim Brotherhood, as a threat to Egypt’s national security.



    Last year, a retired Egyptian army general, Sami Hassan, talked about a plan by Sisi to tighten the siege on the Gaza Strip and bring down Hamas. Hassan said that Sisi’s main goal is to prompt Palestinians in the Gaza Strip to rise against Hamas. Egypt has allocated $750 million to carry out its plan and bring the Palestinian Authority back to the Gaza Strip.



    According to Palestinian sources, the Egyptians have over the past few weeks expressed fierce opposition into turning the Rafah terminal into another official border crossing with the Gaza Strip. The Egyptians, the sources said, are worried that the reopening of the Rafah terminal would facilitate terrorist attacks by radical Islamist groups against Egyptian targets, especially in Sinai.



    While the Egyptians continue to impose strict restrictions, hundreds of trucks of food and basic supplies are being transported into the Gaza Strip through border crossings with Israel. This is happening even as even rockets are being launched at the Kerem Shalom border crossing. A total of 2,772 trucks entered the Gaza Strip through Kerem Shalom since July 8. Meanwhile, only a few trucks were allowed to enter through Rafah.



    Israel has also allowed ambulances and medical staff into the Gaza Strip over the past few weeks, while the Egyptian side of the border crossing has been closed. On August 8, there were a total of 169 ambulance transfers through the Erez border crossing with Israel. In addition, a total of 38 medical professionals from Israel and the West Bank have entered the Gaza Strip over the past two weeks. The Egyptians did not send even one physician to the Gaza Strip during the same period.



    The Egyptian blockade and severe security measures against the Gaza Strip, including the closure of the Rafah border crossing, are part of the reasons why the last war erupted. But the Egyptian authorities do not want to accept any responsibility. Instead, they are doing their utmost to shift the blame toward Israel.



    Whatever is ultimately decided, Hamas’s leaders will find ways to smuggle weapons into Gaza because their outspokenly main goal is to destroy Israel and the Jews.









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    To register your interest drop us an email at



    More details to follow very soon.







  19. Dallas Dallas where the heck is Dallas on

    Delaney’s, I hope you had a good time today and enjoyed your day off.



    You would have no doubt shown Blantyre Tim some great hospitality, Dalmuir style.



    I can’t wait for the game tomorrow and I hope all our support are singing the same song tomorrow.



    My son’s team is playing tomorrow morning at ten so we’ll need to get our skates on to get to the stadium for around 12.30. Springfield Road being shut is a pain which could delay us even more.



  20. weet weet weet(GBWO) on

    the glorious balance sheet



    23:28 on 15 August, 2014


    weet weet weet-



    Pat Bonner?




    Near enough mate



    Justin Whittle on a free from the British Army Team




  21. Kojo,



    Going by the results, re the hun tax case, I think you may be right.



    The documentation in the ones found guilty was probably worded wrongly and the strategy was changed for later ebt’s.



    Thereby, the wriggling worm escapes punishment.



    Still, cheating is cheating.

  22. Kojo





    23:26 on



    15 August, 2014



    I was doing a wee bit browsing around the CAS web site and what you just posted was niggling at me when I read how the Arbitration worked.



    I thought it needed both parties to have signed up and asked CAS to rule on “who is right here?” and that made no sense.



    However what if the two parties are LW and UEFA? Would that be what is going to happen? UEFA defend their rules and LW argue they produce a punishment that is too strict?



    I’m not saying yer pal is wrong. In fact I agree that Celtic are more likely to be spectators than participants but maybe you can check?

  23. Just remembered why I left here. Dodo/swinging dick.



    Off back to twitter,



    bye bye



    Hail Hail

  24. Phyllis Dietrichson on

    Theoriginalsadiesbhoy -I’m sorry, maybe I over-reacted to what I perceived was criticism. I know for a fact though, that hundreds of boys now working for City Refrigeration would never have even got an interview for the likes of Weirs Pumps 20 years ago.

  25. Delaneys Dunky on




    Jungle Jam67 another Dalmuir rebel is picking my son and I up at 11. Tims in unison for the Champions Flag Day.


    Got the same butterflies now that I got as a child. :)

  26. And for anyone interested in getting the CQN badges for the new season, get to CQN Corner(Pools Office) they will be available there.


    Ask for me or CRC.

  27. sipsini






    23:56 on



    15 August, 2014




    No. The ebts used for the first two/three years to pay Moore, Flo and De Boer worked to an entirely different mechanism that an FTT/UTT and Court Of Session ruled illegal.



    Rangers did switch from that scheme (Discount Options Scheme) in 2002/03 to the loan based ebts but Moore. Flo and De Boer were paid by an irregular/illegal means.



    Lord Nimmo Smith did not know that because the paper work telling him was concealed from him by Rangers administrators and President Ogilvie in his testimony made no distinction for the judge in spite of Ogilvie instigating the first illegal type ebt and being a recipient of the later loan type.



    That is a summary but if you want the detail (and as it is about proof of cheating everyone interested in fairness will want to read it) look here





    Two titles 1999/2000 and 2002/03 should be forfeit. No question.

  28. TBJ says Wee Oscar Knox is in heaven with the angels on

    Woo hoo



    It’s now Saturday morning Celtic park time



    Later today the hoops will play their first home game of the new season and with a new management team and a few new players in the squad



    One of the clubs Greatest heroes will pull the cord and unfurl the league flag at the stadium of our and his dreams . A stadium that shone brightly across the planet a few short weeks ago .. And my chest puffed out with pride .. On not only our stadium but our club who have survived the hardest of times and sit top of the pile season after season



    So … You bhoys and Ghirls in green



    Get yourselves along to the match tomorrow and celebrate our success … Show fergus and the new and established bhoys what our club means to us



    Leave any negativity in the house for one day ( at least )



    On a personal note … I wish my dad and my son could be there with me .. They never saw the day when we the Huns died and justice was done . They would have loved it as would my pal Pablo



    So let’s make some noise for the bhoys ;)

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