News that the Maribor game later this month is on the season book has setup a dramatic climax to what will be remembered for decades as a remarkable month in our history. We didn’t ask for this situation. As we drifted away from Murrayfield, our thoughts were only of Celtic’s abject display, but nine days and two Uefa Disciplinary hearings later, we’re through to the Champions League play-off round next week.
For Legia Warsaw, the pill is unbearably bitter. So much so, they had to appeal to Uefa, and on to the Court of Arbitration for Sport, despite scant cause. CAS who will eventually be asked to determine if Uefa’s rules were interpreted correctly. Which they were. The consequences for Legia are so abrupt their reactions are understandable.
Football affects us in ways which are not always beneficial. There was nothing Legia fans could do to remove their distress this past week, but reading comments, by fans of another Scottish club on this subject, has given a glimpse into the human condition.
The emotional investment by some Scottish football fans in Legia’s forlorn cause has evidently resulted in untold misery. Celtic fell into the Clyde and came out holding a winning Euromillions ticket. It was unplanned for, random and undeserved, but it happened and, right now, Celtic are the luckiest team in the world.
At a time when their phoenix club is falling apart before their eyes, our unearned good fortune has caused volumes of hilarious, angry, ranting. Efforts to explain it as a consequence of immoral plots (as well as running the Celtic, the SFA, the SPFL, Glasgow City Council and The Commonwealth, Peter Lawwell also manipulates Uefa’s Disciplinary Body) demonstrate classic evidence of our old friend, Cognitive Dissonance.
We were blind lucky, accept that, or continue to give the rest of the world new and innovative ways to enjoy their football. It’s not worth the dissonance.
It’s been an interesting week in the media. Neil McCann’s excitable misinterpretation of the rules on Wednesday was a highlight, but the paper which brought you ‘news’ that Celtic wanted Dan Pertrescu to be manager, who declined as he was warned the club have problems by Neil Lennon, subsequently got a second story when they ran a properly sourced article denying ‘reports’ Neil spoke to Pertrescu.
I’m also loving reading those who in the media were spinning anti-Celtic nonsense that Neil left because he wasn’t happy with the player budget, now suggesting he could take over Crystal Palace, after Tony Pulis left because he wasn’t happy with the player budget.
Nonsense like this is never random, it has a purpose………..
On a related subject, I’m gutted for Palace, their fans, and for Pulis. The economics of the entire English league structure doesn’t work. Well-run clubs with good managers will be weeded out and relegated, as crazy debt-junkies inflate the bubble a little longer. Scottish football may be poor, but there are only two of our 42 clubs in any sort of financial danger.
Flag Day tomorrow, get along early, give Fergus a warm welcome back, and bring some change for The Kano Foundation bucket collection on the way in. Remember to join Fergus, Jim Craig and others from the Celtic Graves Society for the Jimmy Quinn event at Kilsyth Cemetery.
Thank you to everyone who gave so generously to Mary’s Meals by entering our competition for tickets in the comfy seats tomorrow. I’m proud of every one of you. My thanks also to Magners for helping out. The competition is now closed, winners will be informed by email shortly, so check your inbox!
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Doc
What is this CQN corner you speak of.
Will there be nibbles and pre match cocktails ?
HH
Auldheid
The Pookah..may be NOT Right… But,in Legal Matters..
He is Seldom Wrang…
When he identified. CAS .. as an “Arbitral Court”.. it Struck Me..
Yep.. It’s jist a Fancey Smancy..
OMBUDSMAN..
A Middle Man.. who listens tae BAITH sides of a Disputes..n.. Maks a Ruling..
As a Point of Interest..
Ah read, somewhere…
That Legia, wiz Asking Celtic tae Submit a Paper Tae CAS. Defending Their Side of this Dispute?
Ah read that somewhere ..recently…
Anyway..
In Light o whit the Pookah Says..
Ah wid think that If Celtic, did NOT,in fact Mak any Contact with this so Called
“Court”..regarding this Dispute..
Ah canny see Legia, getting Anywhere in Submitting an Appeal.. fur a Dismissal of the Eufa Verdict…
Interesting Stuff.. Eh Whit?
Monday it is.. then.. we wull Know If Celtic Hiv beaten the Rap…
Nice Chatting.pal.. as evah
Kojo
Marrakesh
Alex Salmond and that’s without checking – honest.
“Farbric of Scottish society” waffle speech…
Before he got his erchie felt for cutting across the interests of honest tax payers.
HH
First home league game of the new season. . . . .there’s no Substitute for seeing the flag Suspended above the pitch, it’s Appeal never fails to Register.
Auldheid -I saw earlier you were reading Sleepwalkers – What a brilliant book. If you had said to all of the main players ” look guys we’re going to end up with millions of people dead here” they would all have backed off.
TBJ says Wee Oscar Knox is in heaven with the angels
Well said sir
Celtic park a beacon for all we love and all they envy .
Goodnight all
Gordon64, canopies and cocktails are on offer:-)
Shelter under a big ole CQN Brolly too!
The brolly will not be needed tomorrow, the sun will shine.
Gotta go, joe
Seeya.
Kojo
Still,Laughin’
Auldheid,
I bow to your knowledge on all matters re the hun tax case.
It is just more a gut feeling that avenues and technicalities will be used to assist them in any way whatsoever.
Is there a time bar in any action hmrc take?
Doc
Sorry to interrupt, but why do you need a brolly if there’s a canopy??
Auldheid, I tried to explain to a XXXXL, referring to his size & hunnery, sticky I know about the Discount Option Scheme being the cause of the wee tax case.
I told him the FTT found his former club guilty on all counts regarding the Discount Option Scheme. I also said that if Murray had listened to the legal advice re paying the outstanding tax bill, that would have been that.
The sticky looked a bit dazed at my explanation and lost for words but seemed to accept it. He also said Murray had a lot to answer for. Only the third deid club fan I know who has said that.
Gordon 64
Off course there’s nibbles and cocktails … CQN corner sits between the pools office and the burger van so if you can nibble on a cheeseburger and count a Capri sun as a cocktail
With many CQNrs and john Fallon And Charlie Gallagher for company … It’s a fine pre match aperitif ;)
TBJ
Lost the first man who took me to Paradise from ’67, a year ago. Tomorrow, my son and I who share his name will be sitting at the same spot in the Celtic end that he stood with me. God bless you Jinky.
sammi and jay.
celts for ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzzs_aTCQ9w
Dallas
Most zombies I know put their fingers in their ears age mutter ” we arra peepil ” when I clarify the facts on tax and liquidation
Btw .. By the time WH palace is finished He might be looking over Celtic park celebrating ten in a row
2-1 Celtic
HH
CRC
Auldheid 23:47-
Thanks for your reply.
Nobody does cover-ups better than Westminster, look at the secretive deals that HMRC have entered into with Vodafone and the like, allowing these powerful organisations to evade hundreds of millions in tax at a time when cuts to welfare mean people are relying on foodbanks.
The reason why HMRC had no option but to pursue Rangers was that Minty had simply gone too far, he had got too greedy, and he did so at a time when clubs like Portsmouth had also taken things to the limit, going insolvent to stiff the taxman out of millions.
The football industry was all of a sudden on the radar and for the first time there was no longer anything that those types of people of a pro-RFC persuasion – those highlighted in Jack Irvine`s emails – could do to keep the spotlight off their club.
I think that if Salmond had truly intended to be as dishonest as some of the other parties in this whole fiasco – the SFA etc – then he would have been trying to influence things in the background without publicising it.
Much in the same way if you complain to your MP about something they`ll share your indignation, promise action, write to the relevant government Minister and then wash their hands of it when you get the usual generic reply. Token gestures all round.
He was simply grandstanding because he didn`t want to be seen as being impotent. In my view, of course.
I agree with your points about the media bias. The MSM in Scotland has pandered to the RFC pound for so long that any move towards objectivity is greeted with fury from the hordes – look at the grief that guys like Mark Daly and Jim Spence have got for simply reporting the truth.
Some willingly peddle propaganda like Jackson, while others simply elect for a quiet life and so don`t print the truth as unpalatable as it would be to those of a sevco persuasion.
The main thrust of my argument though is that any entity wearing the clothes of RFC will not get any additional special treatment if governed by Edinburgh than they would get if governed by London.
The inhabitants of Scotland will still be the same, the people high up in tax authorities etc will still be of the same character and the sports MSM will still be the same. And the fans of the former RFC will still be the same, lashing out at any perceived injustice in their usual irrational way.
Nothing has happened in this whole fiasco that should influence how people vote in the referendum.
Delaney’s, your dad will be with you tomorrow.
My dad is in a care home now but when I see him within a few minutes he always asks what’s happening with Celtic.
We were very fortunate that your late dad and mine brought us up well and as Celtic fans.
happy flag day
Doc
Good to hear CQNrs are doing it in style.
If in the unlikely chance VP and myself leave the Vogue early
for the game we might join you but i doubt it.
HH
Is it canopies or canapés at CQN Corner?
Need to know whether to bring a jaiket of a prawn sandwich!!!
Right. Bedtime for me.
Night Timdom.
HH jamesgang
BeatBhoy, if you want a canopy seek the Gazebo.
We partake of canopies:-)
DD
For what it’s worth … My dad took me at the start of the 70s .. I took my own son mid 80s . Kinda thought after my dad passed away that Gary would carry on the family tradition when my time was up
Sadly .. It was not to be .. So it’s my family responsibility .. And honour .. To carry it on
Flag day never loses it’s appeal .. May tomorrow be the first of many you share with your bhoy ;)
Just in and off to bed ….. Hope I can sleep …..big / big day tomorrow ….. HH to you all, and to oor Fergus ….!!!!
I admit to booing Fergus all those years ago.
It’s not a badge of honour, as someone mentioned, but I’m certainly not ashamed of my actions.
I had my reasons at the time, unswayed by the MSM, and I did it then in good conscience.
Tomorrow I’ll stand and applaud the wee man for all the good that he did. I’ll set aside my hurt and anger at some of his words and actions. I made my point all those years ago, that was suffice.
I hope in all sincerity that every Tim in attendance tomorrow does the same.
Forget just for a day any angst that you hold for the current custodians and remember the positives.
Tbj
HH jamesgang
TBJ, it was bad enough trying to have an objective chat about football with sticky buns but they can’t even deal with a single comment about their deid club’s off fleld misdemeanours let alone what they got away with on it.
Wullie’s hoose will be something special when it’s finished.
TBJ
Always enjoy your company
not sure about those other two fellows though.
HH
Tbj,
Liar Liar, was on the sick for five weeks…the usual frozen shoulder…he starts back his ub bigot son phones in sick the same day…you couldn’t make it up in there.
Looking forward to the bunnet getting the plaudits he deserves tomorrow, I’m going to buy one for work…:)
DD-Enjoy your day HH
TBJ
I don’t need to say it because you’ll know better than anyone, you’ll carry their memories into Parkhead tomorrow.
Dallas
Ma dad would love the fact that our new manager shares his initials and football philosopy. :)
Will pray for your dad at mass on Sunday.
Of course you booed because of the MSM, you can kid yourself on that it was other reasons.
Fitting tune to end a good week. Come on, SMSM! Sing along!
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=the%20who%20substitute%20live&source=web&cd=8&sqi=2&ved=0CDEQtwIwBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dsk_cwisz61U&ei=RJDuU_3HFqfX7Ab-pIGADA&usg=AFQjCNFKBCm4TGRmEYB7m-iCBQtseBRKSw&bvm=bv.73231344,d.ZGU
Good call HT.
HT
If PL walked onto CP tomorrow to unfurl the flag
he would likely get the same response as the Bunnet got all those years ago.
Who knows in 10 years time we might be welcoming PL
onto CP to rapturous applause.
Just a thought.
HH
HT,
We were all angry back then, maybe the Bunnet, being a shrewd businessman had more of an insight to what was going on in our bigoted wee country.
I would love to know his thoughts as to how things stand now.
Oh and Carpe Dium
TBJ/DD
Great posts. A big thank you to those who brought us up for the way they brought us up. Those who slag off our club now would do well to remember things like the Hampden season.
That’s not to say that our custodians could not do better and as stated earlier the opportunism of the MSM re the Derk case presents just such an opportunity. Thanks to Fergus and friends for providing the infrastructure that stopped their 10 hence my moniker. It really did mean that much to me. Tomorrow will provide me with my opportunity to let Fergus know I appreciated it and in some small way to atone for what I felt was a huge disservice to him as the 98 flag was unfurled.
As TBJ and DD opine if only our loved ones were here to witness what we have witnessed. As some on here say we rejoice in the fact that their grandchildren will be Celtic supporters. Given their songbook tonight , the World will be a better place for it.
HH and good night Tim’s.