News that the Maribor game later this month is on the season book has setup a dramatic climax to what will be remembered for decades as a remarkable month in our history. We didn’t ask for this situation. As we drifted away from Murrayfield, our thoughts were only of Celtic’s abject display, but nine days and two Uefa Disciplinary hearings later, we’re through to the Champions League play-off round next week.
For Legia Warsaw, the pill is unbearably bitter. So much so, they had to appeal to Uefa, and on to the Court of Arbitration for Sport, despite scant cause. CAS who will eventually be asked to determine if Uefa’s rules were interpreted correctly. Which they were. The consequences for Legia are so abrupt their reactions are understandable.
Football affects us in ways which are not always beneficial. There was nothing Legia fans could do to remove their distress this past week, but reading comments, by fans of another Scottish club on this subject, has given a glimpse into the human condition.
The emotional investment by some Scottish football fans in Legia’s forlorn cause has evidently resulted in untold misery. Celtic fell into the Clyde and came out holding a winning Euromillions ticket. It was unplanned for, random and undeserved, but it happened and, right now, Celtic are the luckiest team in the world.
At a time when their phoenix club is falling apart before their eyes, our unearned good fortune has caused volumes of hilarious, angry, ranting. Efforts to explain it as a consequence of immoral plots (as well as running the Celtic, the SFA, the SPFL, Glasgow City Council and The Commonwealth, Peter Lawwell also manipulates Uefa’s Disciplinary Body) demonstrate classic evidence of our old friend, Cognitive Dissonance.
We were blind lucky, accept that, or continue to give the rest of the world new and innovative ways to enjoy their football. It’s not worth the dissonance.
It’s been an interesting week in the media. Neil McCann’s excitable misinterpretation of the rules on Wednesday was a highlight, but the paper which brought you ‘news’ that Celtic wanted Dan Pertrescu to be manager, who declined as he was warned the club have problems by Neil Lennon, subsequently got a second story when they ran a properly sourced article denying ‘reports’ Neil spoke to Pertrescu.
I’m also loving reading those who in the media were spinning anti-Celtic nonsense that Neil left because he wasn’t happy with the player budget, now suggesting he could take over Crystal Palace, after Tony Pulis left because he wasn’t happy with the player budget.
Nonsense like this is never random, it has a purpose………..
On a related subject, I’m gutted for Palace, their fans, and for Pulis. The economics of the entire English league structure doesn’t work. Well-run clubs with good managers will be weeded out and relegated, as crazy debt-junkies inflate the bubble a little longer. Scottish football may be poor, but there are only two of our 42 clubs in any sort of financial danger.
Flag Day tomorrow, get along early, give Fergus a warm welcome back, and bring some change for The Kano Foundation bucket collection on the way in. Remember to join Fergus, Jim Craig and others from the Celtic Graves Society for the Jimmy Quinn event at Kilsyth Cemetery.
Thank you to everyone who gave so generously to Mary’s Meals by entering our competition for tickets in the comfy seats tomorrow. I’m proud of every one of you. My thanks also to Magners for helping out. The competition is now closed, winners will be informed by email shortly, so check your inbox!
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No frogs were actually hurt. :))
RM isnae happy
as for not being a Rangers man.Why did he try and hide his wages from the accounts ? why was he taking £825K / year when he knew we couldn`t afford it ? why hasn`t he taken a proper wage cut ?( deferred payments or wages going back up to £825k when in top division don`t count as pay cuts ).
He scored goals for Rangers and thats it with him. He knocked us back twice before he came. He made millions off us and is only interested in the money.
If he was a Rangers man he`d have left long ago knowing full well that he wasn`t up to the job , but instead he`s just staying for the money.
HH
weet weet weet(GBWO)
02:30 on 16 August, 2014
RM isnae happy
as for not being a Rangers man.Why did he try and hide his wages from the accounts ? why was he taking £825K / year when he knew we couldn`t afford it ? why hasn`t he taken a proper wage cut ?( deferred payments or wages going back up to £825k when in top division don`t count as pay cuts ).
He scored goals for Rangers and thats it with him. He knocked us back twice before he came. He made millions off us and is only interested in the money.
If he was a Rangers man he`d have left long ago knowing full well that he wasn`t up to the job , but instead he`s just staying for the money.
HH
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I think it was ernie lynch who said a while ago, that Sally isn’t stupid. He is manipulating them Big Time.
The Rangers have the man they deserve in their hotseat. I doubt Ronny is on 1/4 of fat salaries wage.
I sense that Ronny is really special, I’d have liked the Board to have made things a lot easier for him by bringing in Definite first team players before Legia, I know ABSOLUTELY heehaw.
The Can Do Ron, the Can do Ron
Bitton to shine ever brighter as the Ronny Juggernaut comes to Life, hopefully the olde Beram will be beside him as he gets back to his Finest.
Heroes
Petec
This will be either a Ronny Revolution or he will be another Mogga. I hope and pray that the Celtic faithful give RD time. I sense something special too.
Delaneys Dunky,
Tony was hung out to dry. The Maloney penalty would have changed the course of History.
It is the Top Banana’s Story, so let it roll the way it is gonnae roll. ;)
Α Ω – that is the bottom line.
What a story you are and Wow, that is powerful.
The Glorious Balance Sheet
I beg to differ.
If Scottish football was so important to the fabric of society (or was it just Rangers?), anyway questions should have been asked how the mess had been allowed to grow under SFA governance and some pressure put on to establish just how so much deception had gone on for so long that some in football governance had actually benefitted from.
Had it been in England Ogilvie would have been made to step down whilst a select committee investigated.
Then SDM’S cozy relationship with the banks that UK taxpayers had to bail out because of irresponsible lending to the same guy. Has that been investigated? Why is Sir DM still a Sir?
What about “but governments cannot interfere in football”? The very argument the current SG has given to justify swerving the issues rather than addressing them?
They found a way around that in England funnily enough so why not Scotland?
Cowardice and lack of leadership in my opinion because it would have meant tackling the mindset that made Rangers part of the fabric of Scottish society.
It was and is an abdication of responsibility in my eyes and tells me that when the going gets tough the tough bugger off.
Same approach to the OBB. Rather than tackle the root cause the government introduce, against all reasoned advice, a measure that is helping to kill the industry that is part of the fabric of Scottish society.
How effing stupid is that?
Then ethics. Ethically the sporting integrity should have been paramount and a government worth its salt should have been making that point but it backed the commercial argument.
It was left to the footballing public to draw a line in the sand demonstrating a lack of judgement on the SG and football authority.
So much for leadership.
This is what has happened.
It’s not future promises it’s Scottish politics even when there is a balancing factor.
Finally a Scottish Tax authority reporting to a Scottish Minister whose constituency vote is largely represented by Rangers supporters, is going to find itself under the sort of pressure HMRC were able to withstand because the guy trying to apply the pressure was not the boss. Thats parish pump politics and it’s what you get in small independent states.
I’m sorry if that does not fit in with the vision of independent Scotland as some kind of Brigadoon.
All of the foregoing has happened in the last two years when there is some form of external input.
An abdication of responsibility.
An abdication of ethics
An abdication of integrity
An absence of moral leadership.
God knows what mess the place will get into when the brakes are off.
Sleepwalking right enough.
Roberto Armani
Remixed by the 0303 specialists.
And I, Love you
Bloody Polish builders,look at the state of this place!
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=crooked+house&client=safari&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=UcDuU5PsOcee7AbczoF4&ved=0CFgQ7Ak&biw=1024&bih=672#facrc=_&imgrc=hM-8TVSCBKxprM%253A%3BgpBrbN8zdLRDeM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.allpropertymanagement.com%252Fblog%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252Fkrzywy_dom_front_1.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.allpropertymanagement.com%252Fblog%252F2008%252F11%252F14%252Fcrooked-house-poland%252F%3B725%3B543
Trumpets
Always mocking the God of the Bible.
Wake the F|_||< |_|p.
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The Theology taught to kids will be from Television…. GOOD LUCK with that.
TSD, is a strong person, IMO.
Do I agree with anything TSD says? I agree with plenty. Ostracise me, it won't be the first time. ;))
Just passing through….
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BIG-CUP-WINNERS
21:48 on 15 August, 2014
What did Fergus McCann ever do for the Celtic ?
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/4945137.jpg
mmmmmmmmm
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Your dabbling in mythology. imho
Fergus put in £9 mill and took – £40 mill?
The fans bought, £25 mill of shares?
A couple a £’s oot, either way?
So, how does that equate to – Fergus built the stadium?
Nah, me neither.
Good luck
Here I go again.
I’m a selfish guy, at least I know I am Selfish.
8 Mile
Doc
20:51 on 15 August, 2014
KevJ, I was interrupting you, from interrupting an important conversation, it was important, at least, to those involved in it.
Do you know who the people in the conversation were?
I do.
Anyway, what is the point you are trying to make here?
I stopped you interrupting a conversation, what 18 months ago?
And what? Relevant to this evening how?
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Yer at the twist.
The conversation(as you describe it) was anything but. imho
The bloke that I was going over to congratulate for the eloquent delivery of his points which, I whole heartedly agreed with, was, it seemed to me to be on the recieving end of a dressing-down by CRC.
CRC said “This wasn’t the correct time to air such views….” and, stuff like, he was attempting to down play the blokes points. imho
You, on a couple of occasions, grabbed my arm and asked me not to go near the bloke.
I recall that clearly as I was probably the only fella in the place who wasn’t drinking:)
Sorry, Jobo Baldie wasn’t drinking either I recall.
I was talking briefly to the fella then, I came back in – said my good-byes – and was Off oot.
That’s my recollection of the events that night.
Maybe the modern day version of the Celtic ‘supporter’ is not too enclined to ask questions or, too keen to see a few cages rattled that, badly needed rattled. imho
Since that night…I have come to the conclusion that, the higher echelon Internet Bampots are somewhat – reluctant – to ask questions about the running of Celtic. I find that quite strange?
The – important conversation – that you allude to, seems to me to be yet another Jane Eyre type of cover-up. imho
Anyway – enjoy yer day and, tell Fergus I was asking for him:)
Hail Hail – Bye, pal.
The glorious balance sheet at 00.25
“The main thrust of my argument though is that any entity wearing the clothes of RFC will not get any additional special treatment if governed by Edinburgh than they would get if governed by London.
The inhabitants of Scotland will still be the same, the people high up in tax authorities etc will still be of the same character and the sports MSM will still be the same. And the fans of the former RFC will still be the same, lashing out at any perceived injustice in their usual irrational way.
Nothing has happened in this whole fiasco that should influence how people vote in the referendum.”
………………………………
You have really stretched to make a point at the expense of others, and actually told Auldheid his opinions were wrong – which is so spectacularly absurd.
You then told me that if an opinion was not based on the full facts then it was wrong, when I attempted to challenge this view of yours on some one else’s opinion.
This view of yours actually assumes that you and you alone on here have ALL the facts, and that those facts are indisputably accurate with un-besmirched provenance.
That vital caveat apart, it now transpires from the above that you are doing precisely as Auldheid and others do, which is base your opinions on facts as they appear, your own experience in life to date and your own aims, objectives and agenda.
What possible convincing evidence can you present that supports your opinion in the first three lines that I quote from your post at 00.25. For it is just an opinion, and as such it is no less valid than mine, Auldheid’s or anyone else’s here or elsewhere. It is simply your opinion – end of. It is neither fact, nor true, nor accurate, nor wrong – it is an opinion that you hold.
However, to claim that any version of deidco/sevco etc will receive no more preferential treatment from Edinburgh after Independence, than from London now is ludicrous, again in my opinion. You are basing that entirely on your opinion, or if you like how you read things.
You casually ignore the Scottish banks, HBOS in particular, that gave Murray and RFC preferential status when it came to loans. Status that was not afforded to Celtic in 1994. Status that was rejected by English based LTSB when they took on the bankrupt HBOS RFC debt.
You casually ignore the airbrushing from Scottish football of the fraud, misdemeanours and cheating of RFC and now Sevco, with the collusion of the Scottish football establishment: an establishment that is deeply embedded in the commercial and legal institutions of Scotland. Perverse and incomprehensible decisions abound.
You casually assume that the Tax Authority after Independence will be the same, and/or that the officers will be the same. You have no idea about any of that. None.
You casually ignore the consistent decisions of the Scottish Judiciary, either in their special capacity such as Lord Nimmo Smith’s enquiry or in their appellate capacity under Lord Doherty, where decisions consistently favour RFC, sometimes perversely so.
Decisions will be made after Independence, if that is what the referendum result determines, solely on the basis on what is politically expedient for those in power. The fantasy hope that the Scottish people will do what is right is precisely that – a fantasy. The red tops and the television drive the political agenda now, will continue to do so, and we have seen as recently as this week precisely how they will treat anything Celtic. We are the other, the outsider, the unwelcome interloper, the ones who can, with impunity, be casually treated with disdain and disrespect. For they fear no meaningful pushback. The citizens of Scotland who nodded in agreement as they read red top lies about Neil Lennon, while he was subjected to terror, threats and intimidation in his private and public life – these people will not change, nor will the media (as you state yourself). They want to hear the lies that will confirm their world view. Soon it will be another high profile Celtic person who is too…well…Celtic for them.
Within Scotland as we have known it, Deidco and Sevco are and have been treated differently than other clubs, Celtic included. Without any counterbalance or restraining influence from the British parties, or from England in general, there is a genuine fear for some that those who seek to exploit our minority status and culture will be able to give full vent to their discriminatory agenda. To sweep that fear under the rug is disingenuous.
I only have my opinions, and you yours. My opinions are valid and consistent with how I see the world and those within it. I am sure that yours are just as valid to you. To suggest that someone else’s opinion is wrong is arrogant – but that again is only my opinion.
You compound that particular arrogance by stating that “nothing that has happened in this fiasco should influence how people vote in the referendum.”
You say this it seems, because any influence from this fiasco on voters intentions can only be to push some of them towards a No vote.
That statement from you suits your own agenda and conforms to your opinion on how Scotland will function after a Yes vote.
It is more evidence of arrogance I’m afraid, and an “argument” from you here just means your opinion.
Arrogance before the vote does not melt away afterwards. Voters have to be informed if the referendum vote is to mean anything at all, and fudging issues by bold and unsubstantiable statements might make for great political rhetoric, but it is unhelpful.
(Been out for dinner so late with my reply.)
Knownknownsunknownknownsknownunknownsandunkonownunknowns CSC
HH
KevJungle,
If you are talking about mythology, then the Celtic Triangle, the Book of the secretive wans, well there isnae any doubt you are speaking the Truth. It is pathetic that such WITCHCraft is allowed to go under the radar.
entropy entropy m8ty……..
I won’t be there to Witness Fergus unfurling the Flag…….
Freemasonry is just Paganism.
Off to bed Early rise tomorrow.
Just popped in to say
We’ll be there (in spirit) to give the bhoys a cheer
When the league flag flies.
Explain why Sandy Lane Jetskis have had a total removal of Square and Compass Jetskis in the 2010 pictures – the latest Cowell nonsense/pictures don’t show those SIGNs of the Controllers.
Dermot?
PETEC
Maybe the photos have been airbrushed.
From
fleagle1888
CQN Saturday Naps
Lads, for all the mug-punters out there… the CQN Naps competition resumes again this Saturday, and hopefully PF ayr will be around to defend his crown.
In order to confirm your entry, please send me an e-mail stating your CQN username to : fleagle29 atymail.com
After that, the RULES are relatively simple :
a) each Saturday log onto the last page of the previous CQN article.
b) post only ONE ‘nap’ selection from any major Saturday horserace meeting (e.g. UK, Ireland, Dubai)
c) if your selection is a Non-Runner, you may select an alternative – as long as it also runs on the Saturday.
d) if your nap wins, you will “win” the hypothetical profit from a £1 stake @ Starting Prices (S.P.)
e.g. selection wins at 9/4, your hypothetical profit is +£2.25
e.g. selection wins at 5/1, your hypothetical profit is +£5.00
e) if your nap loses or if you fail to post a selection, you will “lose” your £1 hypothetical stake (-£1)
f) if you want to join the competition late (e.g. in Week 3) you will be allocated 2 losers, and will start the competition from (-£2)
g) Our winner and CQN Naps Champion Tipster will be the CQN punter who shows the greatest overall profit during the season.
Last season the competition lasted for 40 weeks, and PF Ayr was the champion tipster, with +£12.60 profit
Happy punting everyone…
:o)
Cheers, fleagle1888
Congratulations to TONY DONNELLY and his mum,Anne.
Kicked smoking.
Noone knows.
Wan thing that is important though, …………………………….
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
05:01 on 16 August, 2014
PETEC
Maybe the photos have been airbrushed.
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I dinnae think so, honestly, do you?
Australia’s PM wades into the Independence Debate….
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-28814936
What a total clown!
I fully expect the YES vote to skyrocket now.
Rexi Hunti
A track that ppihilvisreturns made me Think.
Oh, FFS, I forgot what the track was.
Laters, I will see you all later.
Future
Orwell wisnae daft, Kojo isnae Daft, HEAVEN forbid, TSD isnae daft…….
Keep Judging….
I dinnae mind being ridiculed on a blog, even being imitated by those that Don’t understand, yet.
What did Christ endure?
Heres Ronny
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tbj says wee oscar knox is in heaven with the angels
01:20 on 16 August, 2014
Summa
Was chatting to en today about the 3-0 against dead club … You enjoyed that day I think
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Ya ich Vas Veel Goed..【ツ】
If you had Told me a Few Years back I would be jumping up and Down for 93Mins and singing “Taking Oor Taps Aff when Rangers Die” I would have thought You were Mad..
Although it is well know on here I felt Melancholy as I was leaving when they played.. ‘When will I see You again’ lol
When Ehh..
Hope Yir Guid Jinks..
Just back from a Week at the Snow with My Two Ghirls.. *Plays Pharrel song*..
KTF
001Bhoy
Mea Culpa
05:11 on
16 August, 2014
Australia’s PM wades into the Independence Debate….
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-28814936
What a total clown!
I fully expect the YES vote to skyrocket now.
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The total clown has, for the last 12 or so years raised some millions of dollars for charity with his Poly Pedal “cycling for Charity” initiative.
He has also spent ,for a good number of years, one week every year in Aboriginal communities.
Tony Abbott is a good and decent man.
Clown? Let`s have more clowns.
Should he have expressed an opinion about Scottish independence? Probably not.
Nevertheless,this,in FACT is what he said:
Mr Abbott told the Times: “What the Scots do is a matter for the Scots and not for a moment do I presume to tell Scottish voters which way they should vote.”
“The clown wades in? ”
Mea Culpa…………….well named,indeed.
Does the cap fit?
Morning,
Just saw the Polish goalkeepers’ (tried spelling his name,but after 25 attempts the wee red underline thingy,just read F*ckOff instead)article calling for Celtic to be hounded across Europe,stating that he hopes people choke, good God.Nobody else think this is turning out quite sinister.
On a lighter note,Tony Donnelly,and Mum, of course, superstars!
lilys
“US President Barack Obama and Chinese premier Li Keqiang have previously voiced support for the UK.”
More clowns wade in to the Scottish Independence debate.
Strangely their contribution is unrecognised or ignored by Mea Culpa.
Morning. Pleased about this as I believe Leigh will be a big player for us for the next couple seasons.
by STEPHEN HALLIDAY
CELTIC manager Ronny Deila has insisted he has no intention of off-loading Leigh Griffiths during the current transfer window.
The Scotland striker has been the subject of rumours linking him with yet another loan move to Hibs amid speculation he may not fit into Deila’s plans for the Scottish champions.
But the Norwegian has dismissed those suggestions, labelling Griffiths as the best finisher he has ever seen and outlining his intention to ensure the 23-year-old adapts successfully to his tactical attacking strategy at Celtic.
“Leigh has a future here,” said Deila. “He is a player who wants to be here and a player we want.
“He is working hard every day. He is the best shooter I have ever seen, the best finisher. He should be a kicker in American football. Unbelievable.
“I’m very into relations in the team. They have to play together in attack and know the strength of each other and make space for each other, think three together instead of one. That’s the big challenge for the forwards.
“They are used to playing like James Forrest, for example. He is one against one, then he will pass it. That’s a good start, but I want two against one, or three against two. They have to start thinking together.
“To adapt to this is maybe different from what they are used to. It will take time. But when people are thinking together, they get a lot of movements and it is easier to open defences.”
Griffiths is back in the Celtic squad for their first home league match of the season against Dundee United today, having been left out of the squad for Wednesday night’s 3-0 win at St Johnstone because of illness.
Deila has issued a pledge to the Celtic support that they will see a team relentlessly committed to attacking football at home this season, regardless of results.
“We have better players than the other teams in Scotland so we don’t play at Celtic Park and just sit back,” he said. “Then there would be something wrong. Then you are afraid to lose. I am not afraid to lose. I would rather lose than play bad football. You will never see my team play with no pressure at home. The best defence is to keep the ball. Then you don’t get attacked. We need to be the better passers. That’s the main thing.
“At home Celtic must go out and attack. When you meet the very good teams like Barcelona I understand you have to defend. But when we play in the league, every time we go out onto the pitch we will play to entertain.”
Meanwhile, The Court Of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) will hear Legia Warsaw’s appeal against the punishment that led to Celtic’s reinstatement in the Champions League on Monday, with a decision being made on the same day.
While the Polish club left their appeal until late in the day, their decision to press ahead ensured a further three-day wait before Celtic will know whether their play-off clash with Maribor in Slovenia next Wednesday will definitely go ahead.
On Thursday, Uefa’s appeals body upheld the decision by its disciplinary body to award Celtic the 3-0 second-leg win but the CAS said last night: “We registered today at 17.30 a statement of appeal filed by the Polish club Legia Warszawa against the decision of the Uefa appeals body confirming the result 3-0 (forfeit) in favour of Celtic FC against Legia in the second leg of the third qualifying round of the Uefa Champions League.
“Legia requests urgent provisional measures from CAS allowing the Polish club to participate in the play-offs of the Champions League.
“The CAS has immediately initiated an arbitration procedure and the respondents Uefa and Celtic FC have been invited to file written observations.
“A decision on request for provisional measures is likely to be issued on Monday 18 August around 18.00 (Swiss time).”
macjay1 for Neil Lennon
06:23 on
16 August, 2014
Will you be support a political party in Australia who wanted a return to British rule
CQN naps back today I see. Excellent.
2 horses worth a wee bet today for me at decent prices are Shafrah in the 2 35 Newbury and Fairway to Heaven in the 3 30 Ripon. 4/1 and 11/1 respectively. 2 singles and a an ew double at those prices is attractive.