News that the Maribor game later this month is on the season book has setup a dramatic climax to what will be remembered for decades as a remarkable month in our history. We didn’t ask for this situation. As we drifted away from Murrayfield, our thoughts were only of Celtic’s abject display, but nine days and two Uefa Disciplinary hearings later, we’re through to the Champions League play-off round next week.
For Legia Warsaw, the pill is unbearably bitter. So much so, they had to appeal to Uefa, and on to the Court of Arbitration for Sport, despite scant cause. CAS who will eventually be asked to determine if Uefa’s rules were interpreted correctly. Which they were. The consequences for Legia are so abrupt their reactions are understandable.
Football affects us in ways which are not always beneficial. There was nothing Legia fans could do to remove their distress this past week, but reading comments, by fans of another Scottish club on this subject, has given a glimpse into the human condition.
The emotional investment by some Scottish football fans in Legia’s forlorn cause has evidently resulted in untold misery. Celtic fell into the Clyde and came out holding a winning Euromillions ticket. It was unplanned for, random and undeserved, but it happened and, right now, Celtic are the luckiest team in the world.
At a time when their phoenix club is falling apart before their eyes, our unearned good fortune has caused volumes of hilarious, angry, ranting. Efforts to explain it as a consequence of immoral plots (as well as running the Celtic, the SFA, the SPFL, Glasgow City Council and The Commonwealth, Peter Lawwell also manipulates Uefa’s Disciplinary Body) demonstrate classic evidence of our old friend, Cognitive Dissonance.
We were blind lucky, accept that, or continue to give the rest of the world new and innovative ways to enjoy their football. It’s not worth the dissonance.
It’s been an interesting week in the media. Neil McCann’s excitable misinterpretation of the rules on Wednesday was a highlight, but the paper which brought you ‘news’ that Celtic wanted Dan Pertrescu to be manager, who declined as he was warned the club have problems by Neil Lennon, subsequently got a second story when they ran a properly sourced article denying ‘reports’ Neil spoke to Pertrescu.
I’m also loving reading those who in the media were spinning anti-Celtic nonsense that Neil left because he wasn’t happy with the player budget, now suggesting he could take over Crystal Palace, after Tony Pulis left because he wasn’t happy with the player budget.
Nonsense like this is never random, it has a purpose………..
On a related subject, I’m gutted for Palace, their fans, and for Pulis. The economics of the entire English league structure doesn’t work. Well-run clubs with good managers will be weeded out and relegated, as crazy debt-junkies inflate the bubble a little longer. Scottish football may be poor, but there are only two of our 42 clubs in any sort of financial danger.
Flag Day tomorrow, get along early, give Fergus a warm welcome back, and bring some change for The Kano Foundation bucket collection on the way in. Remember to join Fergus, Jim Craig and others from the Celtic Graves Society for the Jimmy Quinn event at Kilsyth Cemetery.
Thank you to everyone who gave so generously to Mary’s Meals by entering our competition for tickets in the comfy seats tomorrow. I’m proud of every one of you. My thanks also to Magners for helping out. The competition is now closed, winners will be informed by email shortly, so check your inbox!
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While I think that the Legia mistake was down to incompetence – and that Celtic are embarrassingly lucky – I can’t see how Legia can claim that the punishment is unfair just due to subjective interpretation of circumstances.
At what point would they – and the Scottish msm – agree that the punishment was fair? If Celtic had drawn the second leg 0-0 – maybe won 1-0 – or maybe a nail biting 2-0 victory?
Or here’s a good one. What if the suspended Legia player had played the first 2 minutes, broke his leg, got substituted and then Legia had still proceeded to win 2-0. Would that scenario have merited a 3-0 forfeit even although it’s little different in effect from what actually transpired?
Anyway – my point is that when we get into the subjective areas of what is fair punishment then we are in severe danger of vanishing up our own erchies.
That’s why the rules are written and applied in black and white – tough on Legia Warsaw but there’s no real alternative…
Syd Negakev
It was certainly a dive. Boerrigter should be punted if anyone will take him. Celtic will suffer for the rest of the season, we’ll be denied stonewall penalties.
79caps
I think you’ve missed the point.
4th officials at Sevco lower league games but obviously no video for Compliance Officer? Some of their penalties last year were of the Marcel Marceau variety.
Here is a wee Friday afternoon poser
We have been given a get out of jail card by UEFA as they applied their rules to the letter.
Around a year ago we were fined by UEFA when ‘fans’ of our club displayed a banner, and UEFA applied their rules to the letter.
Many on here criticised UEFAs decision at the time, but, now, when their adherence works for us, they seem to have changed their view
Fair?
For what it’s worth, IMHO we can ‘afford’ , and I don’t mean just financially to fall out with SFA, but, not with UEFA.
Is this for real? If it is it’s an utter disgrace.
Yes contact was minimal but the defender was caught wrong side, there was a clear push and a trip which caused Derk to be off balance. Celtic need to stand of for the player. Not even sure if Derk even claimed for a pen.
2 game ban what a joke!
http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish_fa_news.cfm?page=1986&newsCategoryID=1&newsID=13600
madmitch
I bow to you nome de plome! Mad you are.
MWD says AYE
bournesouprecipe
And the point is?
Derk got a 2 match ban
Incredible
Tim Malone Will Tell
16:08 on
15 August, 2014
Totally agree, the punishment was not excessive, the consequences may be, however the punishment is clearly set out in the rules, it’s just tough luck that it happens to put them out.
A wee bit like the dead clubs fans, they don’t know the difference between punishment and consequence, the CAS will laugh them out
How would we know if Derk is banned for 2 games?
Boerrigter was PUSHEDin the back by Mackay.
Clear penalty.
I thought that post earlier was seriously a joke.
Clear shove in the back,Celtic should contest it,then go for tax dodger McCann
Bada
If we dont appeal or the appeal is rejected, punishment for simulation is 2 games
He didn’t dive there was contact, so shocking decision
Same old SFA though
HH
RWE,
Institutionalised anti-Catholic/Irish (and so, in their wee world, all things Celtic) discrimination is part and parcel of the fabric of Scottish life, certainly the West of Scotland. My worry is that it will be openly practised in an Independent Scotland; in part, because even the likes of Spiers, who would think of himself as not like that, shows it in his writing.
Some of them don’t even need an excuse; look at the BBC’s Sports Department. They are already in overdrive. What kind of coverage will we get in an Independent Scotland?
Syd Negakev
Please stop applying logic and common sense to situations involving the SFA.
The meeja have decided Bo is a cheat so a hanging is what they will have.
Bo weighed up everything at the time and thought..
“You know what, I have a clear shot on from 5 yards out with just the keeper to beat and no defender able to stop me legally – but I think I will just fall down, and gamble that we will be awarded a penalty.”
“I felt no contact with that wee guy behind me, but Celtic always get penalties in Scotland. The referees are well known for it.”
“Celtic never miss penalties, I mean never ever, so this convincing fall is a much better option than actually taking the shot on goal. Ronny will understand.”
“The boss will congratulate me for gambling like this, because he too knows that we are guaranteed a penalty from which we will definitely score.”
St Johnstone’s appeal against the red card obviously claims that there was no contact and that the Celtic therefore simulated to win the penalty.
Counter allegation from the guilty party leads to innocent victim being in dock.
Only in Scotland.
One nation – same old culture
RWE………15:58 on 15 August, 2014
Wasn’t a dig J………..
Thought that you nailed it re GS; just my extremist nature looking for extras…………. Blood, vengeance, call out, answerable response, comeuppance to the protagonists, etc., etc., Part of the downside in my character……
What to do? I don’t like my own self contained bitterness at times………These so called ‘neutral’ semi skilled wordsmiths bring out the worst in me!
No worries about the missed call; another time eh!
Regards& Hail Hail
TBM
http://m.stv.tv/sport/288504-celtics-derk-boerrigter-charged-with-diving-in-st-johnstone-game/
What if Derk takes the two game ban but then we bring him on as a sub with a few minutes to go in the second game.
People would understand, wouldn’t they? Surely!
Madmitch
My point being. Country is full of Tories. Just happen to be Red variety aka Jim Murphy, Joanne Lammont and many more. Scum readers are least of your worries.
MWD says AYE
If Boerrigter is found guilty of diving, that will say it all to me. He CLEARLY is pushed. We need to get out of this league (and that is not going to happen, sad to say).
Going down easy and diving are completely different.
Derk did not dive imo.
RWE
Indeed.
79caps
Celtic players being branded a cheat by the media and having a having a laugh
So tax dodging diver McCann will now be calling the shots on behalf of the new SFA?
Is this the new game for this season?
So Derk has fallen foul of the bigots …… Bless them
Badabing
2 game ban for missing an obvius goalscoring chance!!
is that a fake?:-)
HH
Is it true that the SMSM are trying to amend the referendum question at the forthcoming election:
Should Legia be reinstated and oh
Should Scotland be independent.
Time to take the SFA to town over the simulation accusation
obvious
:-)
bournesouprecipe
Haha forgot about Boydychenko, also Lafferty too!
HH
Just dropped in to say
hahahahahahahahaha
Sfa – away ‘an gie me peace would ye
MWD
Naw …
You are having a laugh.
You are buying into a political viewpount based on a tea towel.
It talks tripe.
The politics is tripe.
personally I thought BO dived. Don’t like seeing that from a Hoops player!
MWD says AYE
bournesouprecipe
OK, you’re right. Unfortunately Celtic put up with all the shite from the MSM. I still don’t like Derk B. He had a great chance to score but went down, with a delay, after the slightest of slight contacts. Celtic should make its voice heard when other players do the same and ask why there are double standards. But you know our board ….
Madmitch
So politicians Red and Blue have not backed Westminster austerity plans, bedroom tax the length of Scotland.
Go boil your tripe but add onions and milk. It masks the flavour better!
MWD says AYE
I wi admit Mitch. You are making me laugh MADLY!
Cheers :-)))
MWD says AYE
Paul,
Cognitive Dissonance my erchie.
Call a spade a spade.
Good old fashioned nobody loves us anymore and we can’t take.
Plain simple paranoia.
magnificentseven
16:13 on 15 August, 2014
Punishment and consequence.
Here’s a good way to amuse yourself
The next time a Hun of your acquaintance starts on this subject, try this analogy
Ben Johnson took enough drugs to fly to the moon, never mind win an Olympic 100m title
The consequence was he was stripped of his gold medal
The PUNISHMENT was a 2-year ban.
Watch the Hun spontaneously combust as his brain cell short circuits