I get the wisdom in including Olivier Ntcham i and Boli Bolingoli in the training camp. The former may yet have a role to play (outside his own box) at the club, Bolingoli, though, can only be there to maintain his fitness ahead of a move.
Least season’s calamitous events started with Boli giving the First Minister permission to interrupt our season. He was lucky we didn’t lose the league by a small margin attributable to him. The shirt doesn’t fit.
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Will getting Starfelt prevent us getting our Arsefelt ?
PHILOSPHERSCSC
Quad
It’s nearly an anagram Artsfelt, which would’ve been more apt last season. Think it’s criminal all of last years woes are lumped on Bolingoli,
Asking for a friend, does the English National football team have a match today?
Can’t see anything about it anywhere.
Canttakemuchmore CSC
HH
Brian
GO TELL THE SPARTIM on 7TH JULY 2021 9:57 AM
Artsfelt works nicely; I just went for a soundalike to make this point:
We need more ‘proven qualities’ (Lundstram-type/EPL experience) rather than just cross-border kidnappings.
Hope I find a nice stream tonight. HH
Best gemme of football I have watched in a long long time. It should have been the final.
Turned radio on at 5.30 this morning. Radio Scotland hadn’t started. It was Radio 5 live and a programme called “wake up to money”. It was all about Engerlund. Radio turned off til 6 o’clock. Here’s hoping they get beat tonight. Otherwise I’ll have to live without radio and tv for the foreseeable. Even the deid team doesn’t get such overkill.
Will we get ONE signing to get the juices flowing?……
PICINISCO
I’ve been listening to 5Live all morning. Excruciating, they could actually make you hate England. Their lack of humility , lack of self reflection coupled with an arrogance they haven’t earned is hard to take.
Some have taken comfort from Spain’s performance last night. Now I’ll admit this England team has many qualities, set piece probably the most apparent. What they don’t have are midfielders like Spain , If they win tonight, home advantage will be their biggest asset in the final.
PARKHEADCUMSALFORD on 7TH JULY 2021 10:25 AM
Re: England.
BBC Scotland were advertising this morning “Euros Sportsound with commentary of tonight’s Euro 2020 semi final”.
To my knowledge there has been no BBC Scotland live coverage of any games other than Scotland games.
Why would BBC Scotland feel the need to do this when anyone interested who can’t watch the game can listen to it on BBC UK Radio5?
‘Can Gareth Southgate deliver both victory and progressive patriotism?
Gideon Rachman JULY 5 2021
The prospect that England might win a major football tournament for the first time in 55 years will transfix the country over the coming week. Over 26m people, almost half the population of England, tuned in to watch the win against Ukraine on Saturday. Hysteria is building steadily ahead of a semi-final on Wednesday and a possible final at the weekend.
For the Johnson government the symbolism of an England triumph, just six months after Brexit, would be delightful. The prime minister has so far resisted the temptation to make the connection, but some of his allies have been less restrained. After England beat Germany, Lord Moylan, a former Johnson aide, crowed: “Poor Germans, this wasn’t the Brexit narrative fed them by their press, was it?”
But any effort to fit the England team into a narrative of post-Brexit national resurgence faces a significant problem. Gareth Southgate, the team’s manager, seems to be playing for the other side in England’s culture war.
Southgate is pretty clearly a Remainer. In a TV documentary in 2018, he spoke about the “racial undertones” that he felt surrounded the Brexit campaign. Around the same time, he argued that Brexit had divided the country between young people who identified with Europe and “want to travel the world”; and an older generation “pining for something that isn’t there any more”.
These low-key political interventions are not accidental. Unusually for a football coach, Southgate’s preparation for Euro 2020 included writing a long essay on the nature of patriotism. The article, published earlier this month, was entitled — “Dear England”.
In it, Southgate gently distanced the England team from the chauvinism of some of its supporters. Tommy Robinson, a prominent far-right activist, was arrested at an England game in Portugal last year. England fans regularly sing songs about the second world war. (I heard fans belt out “Ten German bombers” in the bars at Wembley Stadium before England games last week). Southgate noted that his own grandfather was a “fierce patriot and a proud military man who served during World War Two”. He stressed his own pride in Queen and country. But he then added: “On this island, we have a desire to protect our values and traditions — as we should — but that shouldn’t come at the expense of introspection and progress.”
In the run-up to the tournament, the England team was booed by some of its own fans for “taking the knee” ahead of games as a protest against racial injustice. Lee Anderson, a Tory MP, claimed to be so annoyed by the gesture that he would stop watching the England team in protest. (One wonders if his resolution is wavering as England progress through the tournament?) Priti Patel, the home secretary, accused the players of indulging in gesture politics.
Southgate has not only supported his team’s decision to take the knee. In his patriotism essay, he went further and argued that “it’s their duty to continue to interact with the public on matters such as equality, inclusivity and racial injustice”.
Even before the England team began to win games in the European championships, the significance of Southgate’s stances had struck the political class. Keir Starmer, the leader of the Labour party, retweeted Southgate’s essay on patriotism, adding: “This is England”. Some Labour sympathisers grumbled that the England manager had managed to produce a more articulate statement of “progressive patriotism” than Starmer himself ever had.
Conservatives and Johnson supporters are less ecstatic. Some seem to believe that Southgate is becoming a tool of deep Woke — with one Tory strategist telling me that the England manager’s patriotism essay was “suspiciously well-written”.
If England actually win the tournament later this week, Southgate and his players will become national heroes — comfortably more popular than Boris Johnson. The England team and its manager will be in a powerful political position and have already shown a willingness to embrace their platform. Marcus Rashford, the Manchester United striker (who has so far mainly been a reserve during this tournament), led campaigns against child hunger over the past year that forced changes in government policy. Raheem Sterling, the team’s star, has highlighted racism in the media. Harry Kane, the captain, wore a rainbow armband to mark pride month.
But, before anybody gets too excited about England’s woke winners, a reality check is in order. There is no doubt that sporting success creates shared national memories. But its ability to effect lasting political change is more dubious. After France won the World Cup in 1998, with a multiracial side described as “Black, blanc, beur”, some theorised that the country would now embrace its multiracial identity. But in subsequent years the far-right has grown in strength. When the opening ceremony for the London Olympics celebrated immigration and the NHS, the British left lauded the moment as a symbol of the country’s new progressive identity. Four years later, Britain voted for Brexit.
The truth is that sport is wonderful at creating fleeting moments of euphoria. Lasting social or political change is a much bigger ask.’
gideon.rachman@ft.com
https://www.ft.com/content/f177cfd0-24b8-49ba-bdd8-99b975828d23
The English media, commentators, pundits, fans etc are no better and no worse than the Scottish would be in a similar situation.
VINNIETHEDOG on 7TH JULY 2021 10:29 AM
‘Will we get ONE signing to get the juices flowing?……’
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This guy might.
https://uk.soccerway.com/players/ivan-pavlov/140466/
Quad
I think arsefelt was how I’d sum up us in Europe’s competitions, if he signs hope he’s a good un, certainly think we need first team ready players, young players from our feeder club Sheffield Wed, will have too much pressure on them if they’re to carry the load
Good morning all.
Admission time.
I was giddy with excitement about the prospect of new signings and the continuance of initial positivity since Ange arrived ….
… so went on to Newsnow Celtic !!!!
I promise not to do so again.
99% click baiting rubbish
Key themes are actually quite transparent
1. introduce O*d F**m angle at all times.
(MSM)
That way you hook two sets of mugs instead of one
2. Start and then perpetuate stories with zero provenance (MSM)
E.g. “that guy that Celtic were never officially interested in … has signed elsewhere”
Key phrases “miss out”, “transfer target blow”, “dither”
3. Stir the indignation pot (Celtic Cyberspace)
“Isn’t it terrible what imbecile A is saying about us”
4. Cut and paste from MSM (Celtic Cyberspace)
Respectfully – seriously guys?
“See these media outlets or named individuals we purport to despise – according to them Celtic are tracking / monitoring / interested in / preparing a bid / about to test the resolve / blah blah and more blah”
Roll on 3pm !!!!
England etc
Seen on Twitter this morning:
“I haven’t been this nervous about a semi since Brokeback Mountain”
Apols in advance for any offence given/taken.
Why do we play out the same soap opera every summer?
We know that bigger targets (and I don’t include the likes of John Lundstram in that) won’t come to us at these early stages. Some won’t come at all because we have seen that locations such as Wigan are seen as preferable career advancements than coming to Celtic (BTW- I think we dodged a bullet in losing out on Charlie Wyke). So we can deride all we like the recruitment of Shaw and Uroghide and proclaim it the “sum of our ambition” because we will just shut up and say nought later in the window when “bigger” targets are recruited. Our default is moan.
Nobody is satisfied with recruitment; some of us just have more patience.
In an ideal world, all targets would be recruited months ahead of CL qualifiers but no Ideal World exists, so let’s live and thrive in the real one.
Tonight we get the first chance to see Celtic this season. If it is anything like every other pre-season we have witnessed it will be an unmemorable performance but it will be a chance to berate a team, heavy legged from pre-season training, for not yet being the finished product. For some, it will be the first chance to say “If we play like that, we will lose the league” or to write off some new player or kid as “never gonna make it”. This negativism is not down to the crushing disappointement of losing the 10. It has been there throughout the post MON years and every manager, including the retrospectively sainted Brendan Rodgers, has got it in the neck for a perceived failure to kick on from Martin’s restoration of our European credibility, another example of not taking into account the real world impact of Bosman ruling, Big 5/6 leagues and CL glass ceiling monopolies.
Well, I am looking forward to this afternoon; much more important to me than the Euro semis and finals.
It will not define our season nor will it tell me much about Celtic’s prospects but I look forward to it because Celtic are playing. And No Board or Negatives are able to remove that pleasure.
Good luck to Ange and the Bhoys- see you at 3.
ERNIE LYNCH on 7TH JULY 2021 10:45 AM
The English media, commentators, pundits, fans etc are no better and no worse than the Scottish would be in a similar situation.
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A fair point.
I was struck last night by BBC comm Steve Wilson who acknowledged in introduction to Italy-Spain commentary that not all the UK would be as invested in England success as some are.
BTW I fear your suggested Bulgarian new signing won’t have many salivating ….
ERNIE LYNCH on 7TH JULY 2021 10:45 AM
“The English media, commentators, pundits, fans etc are no better and no worse than the Scottish would be in a similar situation.”
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I think you’re right, except that the Scottish media, commentators, pundits etc would not be broadcast directly into the homes and lives of everyone in England. There would be coverage, positive coverage at that I’m quite sure, but Ewen and Roughie wouldn’t be leading the Six O’Clock news and big Derek Johnstone wouldn’t be anchoring discussion on 5 Live this afternoon.
Lennon DoF??????
Philbhoy – Naw.
Should be no where near the club in my opinion.
D :)
It’s been posted on other boards.
Help ma boab!
Mind you, the board have sold the season tickets, so back to being customers.
If true, I’m chuckin’ it.
Who let the dogs out …woof woof …
Slurrrrrrrrppppppp
Up the Hoops
I looked at Celtic news now once and realised that’s where posters get their dodgy info from.
Preseason is where the already angst ridden turn it up to eleven. However with the CL qualifier just around the corner I hope we can hit the ground running.
Just for the record, although I want Italy to win the Euros it doesn’t come close to what I want or feel for Celtic. Although the happiness is closer when they win , defeat is much much more painful.
BACK TO BASICS – GLASS HALF FULL on 7TH JULY 2021 10:55 AM
PHILBHOY on 7TH JULY 2021 11:13 AM
Lennon DoF??????
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No more questions, M’Lud ……
I’m not sure how realistic it is to expect any new signing to play any role against the Danes. It’ll be last season’s squad for the most part so we’ll see an early indication about what Ange is about. I think he’ll get more from these lads.
I hope we don’t get an offer we can’t refuse for Ajer or Eddie until after we’ve secured Europa group stage football.
I suspect we’re waiting on selling before any serious money is spent so we’re weeks away from seeing this season’s squad take shape.
ERNIE LYNCH@ 10.48
Now , that was funny!
Ernie – your post of Gideon Rachman’s piece was an enjoyable read – cheers.
I have a lot of time for the Gareth Southgates and Brian Moores of the world (England actually).
Naturally intelligent without feeling the need to come across all intellectual.
(Pat Nevin has been quiet recently)
Clearly and proudly distinguish between patriotism and nationalism.
“ERNIE LYNCH on 7TH JULY 2021 10:45 AM
The English media, commentators, pundits, fans etc are no better and no worse than the Scottish would be in a similar situation.”
I would go further and say that they are no worse than the Scottish already are in a much lesser situation re achievement.
Haha..Jeezo if i was a pundit or commentator and Scotland were looking good for a place in the final of anything i’d ram it right down everyones throat, especially the English.its about football rivalries and the English are our biggest and also make us more jealous than any other team.its no just their football programs its bloody everywhere..arrggghh!
to see them get pumped is an absolute joy.
No offence to any English Tims..its just fitba👍
KOM DANMARK, LAD PUMPE ENGLESK
THE BATTERED BUNNET on 7TH JULY 2021 11:12 AM
Is the fact that England has a population which accounts for about 90% of the population of the UK not an important factor in this?
Whilst I am on the topic.
I would guess that most Scottish cycling fans would like to see Mark Cavendish win another couple of sprint finish stages. On the other hand, I am not so sure if Scottish tennis fans were so solidly behind Tim Henman.
Finally,I think Scotland is much more over the top than England in these matters and the growth of Nationalistic fervour is not helping.
only just read P67s comments
pretty disgusted…
HOT SMOKED
I want England and English people to win every time I watch sport. Except football and rugby.
BORGO67 on 7TH JULY 2021 12:30 PM
Interesting.
I used to want them to lose at everything except cricket !
There is no real rationale to this but rugby remains the one where I still want them to lose yet I still `support` the Lions even when the team selection is predominatly English .
In individual sports, I am usually influenced by my perception of the character of the player. For instance, I would have wanted Faldo to lose but Tommy Fleetwood to win. Torrance to win, Montgomery to lose.
PS I know the final two examples are Scottish (!) but I was trying to show that mixed up as it all can be, there is more to it than just narrow nationalism/patriotism.
Time for Le Tour.
Cheerio for now.
HOT SMOKED
I think we’re on the same wavelength there. I would add Howard Clark to the list with Faldo and Montgomery.
Something about cricket, fans and media alike so respectful and appreciative of the opposition
Could be worser at least Rivaldo and Ivan De la Pena aren’t invited for the Celtic trial.
PassToParadise CSC
SFTB.
For me, it’s possible to look forward to seeing Celtic play (esp at the start of a season) welcome in some young gambols AND register how underwhelmed I am the club’s penchant for cheap cross-border raiding that has yielded too few first-teamers as a methodology for squad improvement (Afolabi, Connell, O’Connor, Okoflex etc) ie; we acquire these guys then don’t break em into the firsts.
Doesn’t make me less of a fan for holding all of these sentiments and stances – they matter not a jot to the club.
And I’m more than happy to be proven wrong by young Shaw and Urhoghide.
Every clubs’ fans love the pre-season comedy of errors that is transfer speculation and dealing.
But leaving yer ‘big signings’ til too late seems to result in what’s called Scepovic Syndrome, Laxalt Lurgy or Mulumbu Malaise.
Moussa Dembele ‘cheap cross border raid’