The Gang of 10 SPL club who will meet next week will decide whether or not we have a morally sound and ethically administered league. The meeting wasn’t announced three hours before overtures were being made on terms a Rangers Newco would be prepared to agree to in order to win their backing.
Effectively, the other 10 will asked to hold their noses, put all moral judgement aside and tell Rangers Newco the terms they need to agree to in order to get back into the SPL, retain their history and limit consequences of the alleged improper registration of players. Some of those hoping to front a Rangers Newco are prepared to do whatever is necessary to get back on a level playing field with those who have spent the last 20 years playing honest football and paying their taxes.
The question to be considered is not just what is ethically right in sport; it’s more personal than that. This is about what is going to happen to your money, the football club that defines who you are, and your relationship with the game for the rest of your life.
The schemers and cheats are not beaten and they are not going to give up. There is no honour, no ‘dignity’, no moral compass that understands there are consequences for decades of rampant abuse. All there is, is a sense of entitlement that I struggle to comprehend.
That sense of entitlement is about to promise bucket loads of your cash to someone else in order to restore the old certainties. This time, they are not even going to use the tax man’s money, they are going to use YOUR money. The money you put into the game will be distributed and used to flush the smaller clubs, who will in turn restore Rangers to their position of ascendency.
This is not sport, it’s a disgusting abuse of Celtic fans. You are not even being asked, you are being expected to open your wallets and pay whatever price it takes to put Rangers back on top.
I have never called for a boycott of a newspaper, never mind a football game, but this is not football anymore. We cannot be party to this. It is not a passing-issue either. Rules are being made with consequences that could last 100 years.
You have suffered from decades of malpractice and have earned the right to go to Ibrox in two weeks to enjoy the reflection of honest endeavour. After this, our next away game will be at Kilmarnock. If the Gang of 10 attempt an insurrection using your money, join me in a picket outside Celtic Park when these tickets are available for sale, and outside the away gates at Rugby Park on game day, to explain to Celtic fans the consequences of supporting the clubs who would use your money to establish a new Rangers.
Unite and bring the full power of Celtic against those who would rather do a deal with the devil than establish an honest, even, playing field.
If the Gang of 10 give Rangers Newco their way, using your money, we cannot go back to an away game, not this season, not ever. We must demand this discipline from each other and insist the club refuse all away tickets.
Having paid our taxes, registered footballers in an honest manner and brought international acclaim to Scottish football, the Celtic Movement is being corrupted by the lowest common denominator.
Our magnificent sporting institution is being destroyed. For the love of all that is decent and meritocratic in the game, we need help from England, Europe or wherever to move out of Scottish football.
I am just about finished with the entire, corrupt, shambles that masquerades as a sport.
Issue six of CQN Magazine….. has sold out! None left, sorry.
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Just to demostrate that we are a big club and have moved on from our, trials & tribulations of 1994, I suggest thst we bring in Michael Kelly to work on the turnstyles @ CP :o)
Hail! Hail!
fritzsong on 9 March, 2012 at 14:25 said:
Everyone’s entitled to carp
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Please may i have haddock as an alternative
thst = that = typo
Checking out the opinions from other teams’ fans
http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=4&fid=27&sty=2&act=1&mid=2115181831
Slightly off topic but has anyone seen these tweets from Robert Peston.
Robert Peston@Peston
FSA censures Bank of Scotland, now part of Lloyds, for failure “to organise and control its affairs responsibly & effectively” 2006-8
Bank of Scotland, now owned by Lloyds, not being fined for “very serious misconduct” because this would punish taxpayers who rescued group.
What a shower of(Rangers)Bankers!!
Yorkston of Dunfermline – servile Hun tosser. Willing to save the huns even at the expense of his own club’s relegation.
Johnston of Kilmarnock – servile hun tosser. See above.
Thomson of dundee United – Hmm, 60-40 in favour of Zombie Huns Fc, but may be swayed by his own support.
Milne, Aberdeen – Like the sheepies, would be against the hun zombies.
Mad Vlad, Hearts – Which way is the wind blowing?
Rod Petrie, Hibs – Against the Zombies, sees the bigger picture.
Wee Crazy John, Motherwell – Would have him down as a Hun sympathiser, big Sally ‘fan’…
St.Mirren – Don’t know.
St.Johnstone – Swayed to Zombies by cashflow paranoia.
Inverness – Huns all the way. Remember that heelan’ newspaper article – Chairman and family big orcs.
Of the ten – 2 against, 2 rolling the dice, 6 for the Zombies.
I’ve written on here before that a bhoycott would be the only way to free celtic from the shackles of Scottish Football. Forcing the other clubs into part-time mediocrity via financial strangulation would then allow Celtic to exercise the same clause in UEFa ruling that allows Swansea and Cardff to play in the English leagues.
Previously, a sense of morality might have governed the call to put them all on starvation diets, but if they destroy the integrity of the Scottish game utterly by whitewashing the Hun crimes then to hell with them.
Dig a hole and bury them, and dig it DEEP.
Celtic should wait until the 24th then send all the tickets back.The skint mob are desperate for our money,give them nothing.
Vote on the Sheepies forum:
Scottish football does not need rangers to survive and prosper:
Agree/disagree
http://www.afc-chat.co.uk/
Oglach
I get what you are saying mate.
But then you will get 1 of the hard core saying”nobody tells me what to do”.and next game it’s 50 then 500 then 5000.
Total BHOYCOTT or none
If newco is in spl then all the rules have been broken and Scottish football deserves to fail.
Jam67
Paul 67
Which is it?
Last night – group of 10 hammering down Rangers’ coffin
Or today
– group of 10 conspiring to keep em afloat ?
Also 4 players now playing ( well OK only 2) for 25% of their alleged market value.
This really is FINANCIAL DOPING and requires another SPL/SFA investigation, and it reduces the tax bill. Will HMRC be claiming the full PAYE if/when the wages go back up, or is there another wee side deal to pay the difference to the players?
Am I right in thinking that if a Rangers newco parachutes into the SPL debt free with little or no punishment and with new investors, it could potentially be in a better and stronger position than Celtic?
And all this from decades of cheating and financial doping? Phew!
Does any one know what are the punishments for not fulfilling a fixture.
As in if we refused to play any matches against Newco Taxdodgers.
Are they financial or just points based.
It would sure feck up negotiations in any new TV deal
No.7 on 9 March, 2012 at 14:25:
“A bhoycott wont work.”
Boycotts do work. Some people thought Celts For Change was a waste of time … had we believed them Celtic would no longer exist.
Moonbeams
Keep it up buddy.
The story of how the huns managed to corner the Scottish media will be told one day. Delinquency in demand.
Hail Hail
BontyBhoy on 9 March, 2012 at 12:45 said:
Check PPV model here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq2m3ggkEX2RdDFTTFRxdE1TYlJyS3paRS04eDVBNXc#gid=0
Production costs are pure guess. Thre likes of Hearts/Hibs could have their own set up and increase overall income for sharing.
Paul67, Cometh the hour cometh the man.
You’ve lit the beacon of Gondor – I wonder how long it will take to travel to Uefa?
I still hope that you have this wrong but if NOT, then hell mend them all!
I will offer my support in anyway possible.
HH
AoW
What folk have to realise is that, when the votes are being cast
there will probably be, twelve people voting and, my guess is that
ten of those twelve will be – Freemasons/Orangemen.
THAT is what we have HISTORICALLY been up against.
More of the same I think….
Hail! Hail!
Hi Paul,
If I didn’t know better I’d have thought your leader had been written by one of our equally word-smart but more strident contributors.
I am intrigued by your comments especially since less than 24 hours ago the group of 10 were, in your own words set to ‘deliver a hammer blow to Rangers’ – most odd.
And the meeting has not yet even taken place.
And Rangers Newco is still unborn and may never be.
So what has happened meantime?
Have Celtic FC tipped you the wink at whats going on?
Are you just covering for a worse case scenario?
Are you getting into the minds of the 10?
Are you raising the standard and calling the clan to battle?
You are a clever man and you have (IMO) used clever and diversionary tactics before.
This seems very different. Your tone is forceful but unusually angry.
I am donning my breastplate now but hopeful the battle need not be joined.
Ready but a bit bewildered…
I haven’t been able to get on to CQN for the last couple of hours. I have only just been able to read your article, Paul67. So, I haven’t been able to discover if your call for a total boycott has been supported. I certainly endorse it, Paul67. If their latest attempt to cheat is successful, do you think EUFA might allow us to seek pastures new?
Paul67
This was what I feared. We now have the possibility/probability of Celtic supporters confronting each ouside stadia the length and breadth of the country and all because of the fiscal negligence of a group of greedy, self serving cheats.
If this comes to pass it will be one of my saddest days as a Celtic supporter.
Thomthetim,
“This is an action that must rest exclusively with the fans, as the club cannot be seen to be actively working against other clubs well being.”
so maybe you can explain what the other teams are doing to the Celtic then, if its not working against the well being of our club.
I was saying yesterday the board are doing a good job,keeping thir own coucil, I hpe they continue to do this until the other clubs make their move, as yet nothing has been done.
I can understand the board allowing their fears to be leaked, articles like this are designed to get a reaction and make the Celtic supports outrage known.
The last time we threatend bhoycott we forced changes in the sfa. The board spent a lot of time and resources killing off that threat, but learned how powerful it was.
They are now encouraging the use of the same threat before the decisions are made by the 10 as a show of strength, a bit of sabre rattling if you will.
The fact we were discouraged from actually bhoycotting then, is I think the reason the 10 have become brave enough to countenance such a course of action, of allowing a new unknown entity to circumvent the correct entry procedures to the spl.
Leaders?
Doncaster, Reagan, Jabba and now a gang of up to 10 spineless cowards.
These are the people who hold the power in Scottish football, but they are not leaders. How these people got to where they are is a debate for another time. What is important now is that we recognise that the people who have somehow managed to manoeuvre themselves into these positions of authority are not leaders. They have created a moral vacuum and it is in this type of environment that volatility flourishes .
It’s time to accept one of three options.
1.Accept what is being forced.
2.Walk away disgusted.
3.Fight.
A small percentage will take option one.
My biggest fear is the majority of people will take option 2.
Option 3 is very dangerous. Exactly how we stage a fight is crucial. The call for a boycott is the most obvious but whatever form the fight takes it will see you vilified and ridiculed in a way not seen since your forefathers stepped off the boats.
This is not a can of worms, this is Pandora’s box about to be opened.
Hell hath no wrath like a woman scorned – especially when that woman happens to wear the English Crown. Don’t they teach British History in all the schools in the UK?
If I was involved in this whore meet up then I would be very careful that I did not have any skeletons still hanging about that HMRC might take offence to.
St. Mirren – Games a bogey
http://www.blackandwhitearmy.com/forums/index.php/topic/33513-newco-rngers/
The rangers 10 meeting to carve up a deal to my mind is a step away from match fixing. Following on from the season of “honest” mistakes what price integrity in our league.
Plenty of dignity though!
JAMES FORREST 1416
I have this mental image of an auditor at his club saying-
Excellent set of results,Mr oooooops,no names.
Tell me,how did you clear the club’s £8.5m debts so quickly? I must have clarity before I can sign these accounts,you know.
Ah,weel,ah bumped intae the new owner ae the mighty Ranjurz,and we played a wee game a’ spoof,ken?
P67
Is CFC cancelled press conference and your leader related?
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 9 March, 2012 at 14:38 said:
Excellent post mate. I do hope that you are right and the board make their feelings public if/when the “10” announce their intentions.
Paul67
Excellent rallying cry,but as I responded on Twitter unless it is a formal organised action incorporating the CSA and backed by the Club I fear we would not achieve the necessary numbers to make it stick.
As I said changing the habit of a lifetime would be tough but for the greater good would be worthwhile as it would let these other Clubs make up their minds if they are individual entities or pale imitations of RFC.
If possible if we could beam back games then we could achieve a healthy Celtic Park attendance each week to the detriment of the 10 sympathisers.
I hope our Board are giving this as much attention as you are,well done.
As Daylight Saving Time starts on Sunday, 25 March, do you think the Admin will try to change the normal changeover time of 02:00 and move to the KO time, to cut the match down to 30 mins. May be they can’t buy time, though.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Ibrox to be born?
(thumbsup)
Folly Folly on 9 March, 2012 at 14:25 said:
Paul
A bit off topic: I know about the 31 March deadline for clubs to submit audited accounts in order to support an application to play in Europe in the sesaon to come (a ‘European Licence’), but can you (or anyone else) inform/remind me if there is a deadline by which SPL clubs must submit accounts in order to be able to play in the coming season of the SPL?
(Also: what would pass as ‘accounts’ for such an application?)
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This should answer your question.Its an e mai to Alex Thomso9n ITN Ch4 who asked for fans input.
” As an example of how rules are being bent or ignored by authority and main stream media check the one below on SFA Club Licensing.
As things stand the SFA should refuse Rangers a licence at the end of this month and without it they cannot operate in any League under SFA jurisdiction..
This is where the game’s integrity is being totally undermined by avoiding or changing rules that do not serve commercial purpose. I e mailed earlier re UEFA’s 11 values at http://www.uefa.com/uefa/elevenvalues/index.html
and Platini’s Preservering Football Values statement
http://www.uefa.com/uefa/aboutuefa/organisation/president/news/newsid=1737706.html
which make UEFA’s position clear.
Saving The INTEGRITY of Scottish Footbal is the issue not saving Glasgow Rangers and UEFA will have to have a view.
Part 2 – National Club Licensing (SFA)
Section 8 – Legal, Admin and Finance Criteria
8.1.1 Annual Financial Statements
Regardless of the club’s legal status, the club shall be required to provide a copy of its annual financial statements which have been approved by the club members at a General Meeting.
The statements shall refer to the year ended 2011 Clubs will provide this information as follows SPL clubs – by 31 March 2012 All other clubs – by 30 April 2012
http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/resources/documents/ClubLicensing/PartTwo-NationalClubLicensing/8%20%20Legal%20Admin%20&%20Finance%20Criteria%20(2).pdf
See the problem here? NO approved accounts. And as regards a Newco they have no history to submit to the SFA to get through the licensing process which according to this Core Process takes 7 weeks.
http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/resources/documents/ClubLicensing/PartTwo-NationalClubLicensing/4.%20Core%20Process%20(2)b.pdf
There is a story here. The SFA can make the SPL comply with integrity, kicking and screaming by not granting Rangers or Newco a licence to play in Scotland if accounts agreed by a Rangers AGM are not submitted by 31st March. (Note a license to play in Scotland not UEFA competition which is another set of rules).
Acceptable accounts ratified by an AGM are not going to be produced so Rangers should, under the rules be suspended.
Which company would sponsor a league that sponsored a team guilty of fraud and tax evasion?
Which company would sponsor a team that was fast tracked into the SPL at the expense of a more worthy and ethical team?
Paul looks like the masonic distress call may have been answered…hmmmmmmmm
Boycott away games and arrange u19 games at the same time elsewhere £5 entry..that will do for me.
Cancel Sky and ESPN subscriptions.especially if we could all attempt to do it at the same time or over a specfic threeday period,[ie 12/13/14th March] they wouldnt know what hit them.
Celtic F C should ask each SPL club ( except the tax dodgers ) to a one to one meeting and inform them what our reaction will be if rules are broken / bent to accommodate the cheats , including the proposed boycott of away matches .
Then it’s up to us ( the supporters ) , to back the club in any way needed.
Mort, thought I read somewhere about minimum price for tickets. Might be wrong though.
Flights on the 1st are around 11 or so. Flights home are around 8. Could have made the flight at 5 but think having a few hours to kill after game will be good!!
SffS
FourGreenFields on 9 March, 2012 at 14:45
I really hope that that is exactly what is happening right now.
My Aberdeen supporting mate has just text me that they’ve had a thread running about a scenario similar to Paul67’s article on their AFC chat site. 99% have said let them rot and would hate if their club helped them in ANY shape or form.