At around 13:16 tomorrow afternoon Fraser Forster will hopefully break the 40-year record of Aberdeen’s Bobby Clark for not conceding a goal in Scottish league football. Clark’s record is next up for the Celtic keeper but the British and European records are not too far away.
Apart from Celtic Park itself there would be no better place to break this record than at Tynecastle, but the most important part of the day is to secure a win. Concede early but win the game and we have done our job. Break the record and leave pointless and we will have nothing to celebrate.
Clarity has never been a prominent feature when it comes to the analysis of football finances. 2012 threw up a slew of ‘experts’, practically all of whom swallowed lines from PR people instead of explaining HMRC’s published rules on voting for or against Company Voluntary Arrangements.
Journalists were briefed on HMRC’s intentions, which filtered to the ‘experts’, soon this PR version of events was accepted an a reality. The same was going on inside football. One journalist called me back then to dispute my challenge to his assertion that Celtic would have vote to allow Newco Rangers into the SPL, and that the SPL itself was absolutely certain to vote them “back” (sic.). Celtic were never going to that way and by then the SPL tide had turned.
It was not in Celtic’s interests to have Newco parachuted into top flight football, which has become clear in the subsequent years, although many in Scotland, including a sizeable chunk of the Celtic support, thought otherwise, and that the club would vote in favour.
It was, therefore, refreshing to watch BBC Reporting Scotland last night without the 2012 flops. A new expert was found to ask the pertinent question, a £1.5m loan is fine for a short-term fix but what about the enormous long-term problems?
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HT
Sorry Sir
Enjoy your weekend
Pub time
So…are sevco deid yet?……Whats the hold up, seemingly they are on their last legs.
Jelly and Ice cream…..mmmmm
And of course, they couldn’t win a cup at Celtic Park, because Aberdeen etc will be far too good for them….blah blah, phil, blah blah, insolvency, blah blah whatever.
Wake up.
HH
Can you Nationalists go somewhere other than here with yer rubbish?
Sick of logging onto here and reading yer muck.
Thanks in advance.
billy bhoy 05
13:13 on 21 February, 2014
Neganon2
Re your question on conflict of interest. As I said earlier I don’t know enough about it to answer. However I now see the STBF and Battered Bunnet have posted. You may find your answer there.
The only point I was making was that this wasn’t solely an SNP thing.
I can also see where you are coming from and it wouldn’t be difficult to agree with of the point you’ve raised.
As I said earlier SNP take a battering, mostly because of the act which get folks so upset.
Maybe I’m thick but I don’t see it having any great impact on most of our lives. I believe there has been one arrest and as I don’t know the circumstances I cannot comment. But when I watched that video a few weeks ago that cretin who mansges The Loudon says that because of the act they refrain from singing FTP and Fenian blood. This isn’t done voluntarily.
I think this is maybe the first occasion ever when Tims and Huns unite against something as they hate the act also
I understand uber soup taker Andy Walker has been quoted as saying FF beating Bobby Clarks shut out record isn’t an achievement as Bobby’s was harder to do.
Can CQN interview this Soup taker and let him know Celtic Fans think he is a FUD
Greenpinata
13:10 on
21 February, 2014
Not true, Scotland voted Tory until the early 1960′s coinciding with support of the DR switching to the Labour party. Even Glasgow had Tories, partially due to one reason we are all aware of.
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Disguised as either Unionist and/or Progressive Party.
I think an independent Scotland wont be able to be a nanny state .
Everyone will have to up their game to make it work . Then the rewards will be great.
We should a greater standards of living for all similar to Denmark or Holland etc.
Sectarianisim would hopefully wither and die in a more affulent and open society.
Frank Ryan’s Whiskey…. haha
I hate comparisons people try make, a records a record and beating it and setting new ones are fantastic and shouldn’t be put down in any way.
Bawsman
No
bamboo
I would think that having Alex salmond in charge would mean you would become a more closed society and less tolerant, I think the offensive behaviour act of whatever its called at the moment is just one example of many that could or would come, thats just one side i can see among the many positives that would be created through independence.
skyisalandfill c’mon wee Oscar
13:04 on 21 February, 2014
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Of course, there would be the full spectrum of political parties.
I just personally think that modern Scotland would be predominantly SOCIALIST.
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Greenpinata & Ernie.
I did not suggest that Scotland always WAS socialist.
I said that it IS NOW & in my opinion WILL BE in any foreseeable future.
I am simply giving one fool’s opinion.
No matter.
BRING IT ON.
bamboo
13:22 on 21 February, 2014
think
should
hopefully
Not much of a case that, is it?
Greenpinata
It might not be utopia when we get Independence but at we WILL get
A government we vote. I’m sick of all the years of Tory rule : and then when Bambi Blair and his Luvvies got in they compromised and diluted on the policies we had spent years fighting for
Hamiltontim,
I posted this yesterday, don’t know if it was after you left the blog,
“Hamiltontim,
My post wasn’t in reference to you; I think that you coming back onto CQN subsequently and apologising was not an easy thing to do and I admire you for it. Not many people would have done the same.
In fact, I regret writing my post as it did nothing to help a situation where sensitivities were so obviously heightened, so much that you thought my post was about you.”
bamboo,
Will the sun always shine too?
Sectarianism will never just die off on its own. Independence would have no effect on it whatsoever. Only a combination of challenging sectarian attitudes at every turn and education of young people will reduce its impact.
Very interesting that quite a few of Scotland’s greatest living sportsmen and women hail from 2 of our towns which have experienced tragedy, Dunblane and Lockerbie.
Hamiltontim,
I posted this yesterday – don’t know if you had read it;
“My post wasn’t in reference to you; I think that you coming back onto CQN subsequently and apologising was not an easy thing to do and I admire you for it. Not many people would have done the same.
In fact, I regret writing my post as it did nothing to help a situation where sensitivities were so obviously heightened, so much that you thought my post was about you.”
Pure comedy :-) Check out @boxertoye’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/boxertoye/status/436821070763790336
Sorry for the double post.
bamboo
13:22 on
21 February, 2014
Sectarianisim would hopefully wither and die in a more affulent and open society.
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Strange that sectarianism (in the main Anti Irish Catholic) flourished in an affluent Scotland during the height of the Empire. So that will all change if Scotland becomes ‘affluent’ again!
Parkheadcumsalford
13:29 on 21 February, 2014
I’m not sure that I would class curlers as among ‘Scotland’s greatest living sportsmen and women’.
If I’m wrong, we’re worse off than I thought.
Curling final about to start…yip I’m sad :((
Frank Ryan’s Whisky
And you think sectarianism will disappear with the Status Quo being maintained?
Thank goodness we are having debates in most schools, colleges and Uni’s: and so far every single debate has been won hands down by the Pro Independence vote
ernie
Just just my gentle nature. An iron fist in a velvet glove.
I tell you all, we wont be laughing and lapping up the supposed jelly and ice cream when sevco are shortly in the top league.
We are sleepwalking, and being diverted by fantasy nonsense.
Get it right now….They will never die while sectarianism is instituitional, we would need a complete overthrow of the current political system to cleanse the stable of bigotry, and that isn’t going to happen.
They have lorded it over scoddish football for 100 years, bent every rule in the book, and ran rings around everyone with their debt-free plan….and don’t forget, it doesn’t matter ultimately what they are called…..there will always be a bigoted hardcore support to spew their vile bigotry.
Its so blatant, that its farcical, because no matter what, they make sure that the positions of power are all held by brothers..
So, I think its time we realised, that we have been well and truly shafted, because they are not going anywhere.
And when they are in a position to challenge, watch the honest mistakes explode.
Imo….Celtic’s only chance for a level playing field, is to leave this corrupt league system, and leave them to cheat amongst themselves.
They have destroyed football in this country, and its hard to stomach it, constant chicanery week in week out.
Its sad, but apathy is setting right in, supporters have had enough, because they know how it will turn out in the end…..back to the cheating and corruption, same as it ever was.
HH
Billy Bhoy 05
13:37 on 21 February, 2014
Do you agree with your mate, Champbell Mhartin, that sectarianism is all the fault of they English basturts.
ernie lynch,
Well, we’ll have to agree to differ.
I don’t think Scotland would remain “socialist” after independence.
Scotland actually had a majority of Conservative MP’s in the 1950’s and it could be argued that the current dominance if Labour at Westminster elections in a Scotland is a reaction against Thatcherism and its perceived Englishness.
Thatcherism is very different from traditional Toryism and Scotland undoubtedly lost out under Thatcherism along with significant parts of England.
If Scotland had gained from Thatcherism, who’s to say we’d be so “socialist” today?
Of course, the modern Labour Party is almost as far removed from socialism as the Conservative Party is.
Green man
Thank you for kind words of support as it can be very difficult on this site for you can easily, might not be true but still apples, get the impression you are hated, particularly when the like minded posters are not here and you are on your own.
Although in saying all that there are posters who don’t necessarily agree with you but are gentlemen. greenpinata being a fantastic example
Without being political, I will say I have worked with Alex Salmond many times and he is hilarious, and very accessible. He is one of a handful of politicians i would trust- I can’t think of another UK one. Maybe Robin Cook before he was assassinated (only joking spooks!!!!!).
Uruguay president is immense. Should make him president of UK
frank ryan’s whiskey
13:21 on 21 February, 2014
I understand uber soup taker Andy Walker has been quoted as saying FF beating Bobby Clarks shut out record isn’t an achievement as Bobby’s was harder to do.
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Please tell me this is a joke. Surely even Walker wouldn’t be daft enough to make such a claim?
Ernie
Do you agree with your mate, Champbell Mhartin, that sectarianism is all the fault of they English basturts.
Please advise source. I don’t recall that sentence in that context
Jimci
Aye, Walker made that claim in DR today
Frank Ryan’s Whiskey
The worst years of Sectarianism arguably were the interwar years when the depression was on.
Billy Bhoy 05
I think there is a bit of gentle winding up going on, I wouldn’t take it too seriously BB.
I mean, everyone on the blog knows I like to cause it a bit, all in good fun of course.
CQN is for everyone, and all views are welcome…doesn’t mean you have to agree with everything.
But, im still amazed, that obviously intelligent guys are so hung up on political ideology, because you know….its all hot air.
Party politics is merely a vehicle for unscrupulous characters to impose their views imo., I would have hoped that in the 21st Century, we would have evolved beyond fake democracy….however, I live in hope:)
HH
Billy Bhoy05
“Thank goodness we are having debates in most schools, colleges and Uni’s: and so far every single debate has been won hands down by the Pro Independence vote”
At the risk of prolonging the propaganda barrage on the eve of an important fixture…
Erm, you lost the Indy Vote taken at Glasgow Uni. Your fellow Yes-man, Snake Plissken, thought that was due to English and foreign students voting No.
One last thought for all the YES proponents.
Why, if Scotland is full of left leaning Republican anti-monarchists, bound to win power in a follow up election, are the options of ditching the Queen etc; being kept out of the manifesto for Independence?
Can I not vote for a Pig that is visible, alive and out of the poke wherein you claim he is contained?
Billy Bhoy 05:
I think the greater part of the sectarian problem we as Celtic Supporters (Catholics, presumed) endure today, can be laid unequivocally at England’s door.
I haven’t read the Andy walker article in the record today but if it’s the same as the one he gave to ssn I am going to request to Paul that some of you are given yellow cards.
Speaking to Sky Sports News, the former Celtic striker said: “Back then, the competition was much stronger.
“Celtic were regularly getting to the latter stages of the European Cup, they even got to a final in 1970, Rangers won the European Cup Winners’ Cup in 1972 and they, and Hibernian, were really strong too.
“So Bobby Clark’s record is really impressive but take nothing away from Fraser Forster and what he has achieved at Celtic.”