By all accounts, Virgil van Dijk has had an excellent season for Southampton and now has a trio of the Premier League’s wealthiest clubs on his tail. We knew he was a player when he left as a 23-year-old two years ago, but you don’t really know how a player will measure up in a new environment until he gets there.
Scottish club have suffered from this previously, as players with decent EPL experience under their belts have not cut it herem even Bundesliga players, in the case of Teemu Pukki. Virgil’s success, and that of Victor Wanyama and ‘England’s number one’, reflects on everyone in the current Celtic squad.
You and I watched Celtic bridge the gap between selling our players in the £4m – £6m bracket, to selling between £10m and £12m. But we have hitherto been unable to fetch the kind of money the Portuguese regularly get for their top players (well into the £30m category).
If Virgil van Dijk leaves Southampton for north of £50m, not only will Celtic earn 10% of the fee, at a stroke it will increase the value of our playing squad, whenever the next EPL club comes asking.
Within just over a year of leaving Celtic, I have it on excellent authority that Virgil increased his wages by a factor of 10. His next move, by necessity, will see him earn over £100k per week. Celtic will not compete with those wages; players will not reject them to continue to enjoy our special club. We live in an era where Celtic players can one day aspire to earn £20m over a four year contract (elsewhere).
The migration south will continue, but if it is appropriately compensated, the opportunity for growth at Celtic will not diminish. It could even improve. Good luck to you, Virgil.
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JINKYREDSTAR on 1ST JUNE 2017 5:18 PM
Huddleboard say SA on 4 year deal
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They’re due to get one right….
Since 2010, Liverpool have spent £565M.
ANTEACHSOLAIS
She usually is,when Sevco are involved.
Very strange indeed.
Stuart A is well worth £30k per week, i would argue he is now our best player, certainly top 3. Tremendous.
Unless Catman is on Huddleboard, I would say it is very unlikely they have access to insider dealings at Celtic. Educated guessing is more likely.
JJ
Bada
Yep reality bites! A dilemma indeed. Do we break the salary ceiling and risk a poor return or maintain it and gamble on cropping undiscovered jewels. Ideally a mixture but that is very difficult
Who cares – what a dream we have had this year
Hail hail
BOURNESOUPRECIPE
And,since we won all the pots,they don’t have one to piss in…
EMBRAMIKE SUPPORTING RES 12 on 1ST JUNE 2017 5:30 PM
From Bert’s site our club ranking is:
48 Celtic Sco (11/12) 16.8600 (12/13) 6.6500 (14/15) 7.8000 (15/16) 3.6000 (16/17)7.8750 (Total)42.785
Our coefficient takes a big drop off for the following season so a good performance this year is important. I don’t know if we have ever been better placed to qualify in terms of the quality of the team, combined with the less daunting path of the Champions route, ie no Arsenal types again.
For me just getting in the Group stages is the major success, when you look at the potential groups getting to the knockout stages requires a miracle, if we can manage to challenge for 3rd and get a Europa run post Xmas then not only would be fantastic for the team but it would mightily aid our European hopes for next 5 years.
What happened to the square sausage challenge money?
AN TEARMANN on 1ST JUNE 2017 4:24 PM
It’s not a link; I’ve put it in a spreadsheet using a few sources. It’s difficult to follow, so I will try and summarise. We are 25th in the list but not all the teams above us can qualify; at least one would drop out, putting us into Pot 3.
Top 8 Qualifiers – Pot 1
Real Madrid
Bayern München
FC Barcelona
Atlético Madrid
Juventus
Paris Saint-Germain
Borussia Dortmund
Sevilla (if they qualify) or Benfica
Pot 2
Benfica (if Sevilla qualify)
Chelsea
Manchester City
FC Porto
Manchester United
Shakhtar Donetsk
FC Basel
Benfica may drop into Pot 2 and Napoli may be in Pot 2 if they qualify; Tottenham will go into Pot 2 if either Napoli or Sevilla don’t qualify. Monaco will go into Pot 2 if both Sevilla and Napoli don’t qualify.
Pot 3
Tottenham (could go into Pot 2)
Monaco (could go into Pot 2)
Anderlecht
Besiktas
Other possibilities in Pot 3 (depending on qualification) are Celtic, Dinamo Kiev, Ajax, Liverpool, FC Salzburg, Viktoria Plzen, CSKA Moscow, Club Brugge, Olympiacos and Sporting Lisbon.
Confused yet?
I will keep it updated during the qualifiers and let you know who is in what Pot.
KTF
Jinky- i think we will have a smaller squad on bigger salaries, we are seeing a lot of money going out the door every week, with no return.
Wheres Catman when we need him
regards SA
BMCUW
Football chat in work this week
Things you don’t often hear CSC
VFR800 IS NOW A MONSTER 821 on 1ST JUNE 2017 5:50 PM
Pretty sure Monaco as French champions go straight into pot 1 along with the champions of the other top 8 ranked leagues. My interpretation of it also looks like we need 3 teams seeded above us to fail to qualify to be able to move into pot 3, which is generally unlikely.
It’s flaming June but p@@@ing down in Rutherglen
REGGIE on 1ST JUNE 2017 5:49 PM
The coefficient system changes for next season and we will be credited with our 1967 EC win so loss of 5 years ago may well be compensated for. WE wait to see from UEFA.
VFR800
Bert Kassies has been pretty much 100% accurate with his postings on CL and EL coefficients and qualifying procedures for many years now. Posting the CL page again for ease
https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/seedcl2017.html
BOURNESOUPRECIPE
Indeed.
Strangely,football is the great unmentionable when I go back to Kilwinning.
Magic,innit?!!!!
Slightly off but it does work out that way
“The title-holder and the champions of the 7 top-ranked associations are placed in pot 1. If the title-holder is also the champion from one of the 7 top-ranked associations, the champion of the association ranked 8 is also put in pot 1. The other pots are filled according to the club ranking.”
As Real and Juve have both won their leagues the champions of the top 8 ranked countries are locked into pot 1, which is why teams like Spartak Moscow(18.606) and Shakhtar Donetsk(87.526) will be seeded above the likes of Barca(151.942) and Dortmund(124.899). Tottenham can only move up to pot 2 if Sevilla and Napoli both fail to qualify.
EMBRAMIKE SUPPORTING RES 12 on 1ST JUNE 2017 6:01 PM
REGGIE on 1ST JUNE 2017 5:49 PM
The coefficient system changes for next season and we will be credited with our 1967 EC win so loss of 5 years ago may well be compensated for. WE wait to see from UEFA
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Of course yeah forgot about that, a timely boost when it happens!
Regarding the European rankings, it’s impossible to deduce from this whether UEFA are regarding Triggers Broom FC as a new club or not.
A club’s co-efficient is based on the points they accumulate in the previous 5 years. There’s an added safety net though which is that the minimum points that any club gain in a particular year cannot be lower than the National team’s points for that same year.
TBFC have never played in Europe. Rangers last played in Europe in 2011/12, a year that drops out of the equation for next season, 2017-18.
Both the old and new club have never played in Europe in the last 5 years and therefore that’s why the current Govanites are given Scotland’s co-efficient points in each of the last 5 years, a total of 3.785.
They therefore start their European campaign in the 1st qualifying round of the Europa League, ties played on June 29th and July 6th. There are 100 teams in that first qualifying round and TBFC have the 45th highest ranking, so just sneak into being one of the 50 seeded teams. Should they qualify they are almost certainly unseeded from then on.
I think…….
Hot Smoked on 1st June 2017 5:38 pm
embramike
I hadn`t realised we start at Q2. 11/12 of July. I had assumed we were Q3 .
Celtic Park , particularly on CL evenings, shows how ridiculous that situation is.
JJ
Oh great, lets hope it’s not Linfield on the 12th then
AULDHEID on 1ST JUNE 2017 4:49 PM
NEUSTADT-BRAW on1ST JUNE 2017 3:13 PM
Afternoon champions and unbeatables…
If Zig is sold Zag will not resign….a braw thought…a club like no other…
And if the Board do not act in accordance with the spirit of the Club…then everything in front of us is a load of bollocks….
And that thought alone should make us all pause…
Braw
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That for me would be the saddest cut of all as for me, it is what I (and I hope many) see as the spirit of Celtic abandoned.
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And that is what your good self and many others have put straight in the Big Shop Widnae…we can only pray that the NEW rich Irish have not forgotten their peat bog or heather …
How much does one need to smile? Smiley thing..
Braw
Paul67
Good thread
The likely sell on fee Celtic receive for Virgil Van Dijk will dwarf the entire SPL transfer budget.
MindTheGap CSC
Just spotted the Sevco new signing airport shuttle bus on the M8 there. The driver looked exhausted.
TurkeyBhoy: Linfield is the last team I would want us to meet in the CL qualifying stages.
It would be every bit as vile as matches v Soft Loans Co.
JOBO BALDIE on 1ST JUNE 2017 6:17 PM
There are 100 teams in that first qualifying round and TBFC have the 45th highest ranking, so just sneak into being one of the 50 seeded teams. Should they qualify they are almost certainly unseeded from then on.
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Spot on. Scotland’s coefficient sneaks them into a 1st round seeding by about 0.3 points, but unseeded thereafter. I would be staggered if they made the 4th qualifying round never mind the group stages that the glib and shameless liar is banking on. St Johnstone are seeded for the 1st 2 rounds, Aberdeen enter at the 2nd round and are also seeded for that round only.
DANSO_1888 on 1ST JUNE 2017 4:39 PM
dons fans giving him some stick
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Hardly surprising.
Only a few weeks ago …….
McInnes said.
“He gave me assurances that there has been no contact, that he doesn’t anticipate contact and that it’s not something he’s interested in.
“If he does decide to move on his likely destination will be England. He sees that maybe being his next opportunity if he decides to leave Aberdeen.”
Questions who tapped Ryan Jack up??
Still a lovely evening down here in Media City, hipsters abound, reclining on deck chairs , eating gaucemole burgers and drinking craft beers. I’m on cider and a Villiger 7 I do stand out on my Lisbon 67 T shirt but CGAF.
No need to sweat up on who we may sign or re-sign. Time will tell. Take care everyone. HH
Ryan Jack is NOT a clear and present danger to us!!!
STARRY PLOUGH on 1ST JUNE 2017 6:44 PM
Questions who tapped Ryan Jack up??
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Who cares, he’s rubbish.
THETIMREAPER
That aside who at hunland is tapping up players, against the rules hunny:))
Big packy,must have missed you,my apologies,big packy is one of our worst goalies ever,the guy is famous for saving a pen,but not for Celtic
Team who finished 39 points adrift of top spot sign vanilla midfielder from team who finished 30 points behind.
Underwhelmed and indifferent.
HH
Sevco and the Bosmans
Déjà vu CSC
Lisbon long post warning
Good evening CQN, almost back to normal after picking up a wee chest infection in Lisbon. I thought I would bore you all with my musings and “faint”recollection of the trip.
Arrived at Edinburgh airport at the start of the trip and the first person I met was the fine BRTH who had organised the whole shebang. Then who do I meet but an old mate I hadn’t seen for several years Calleyroadbhoy57, neither of us had aged that much ;-).
On the flight I had the good fortune to sit next to Friesdorfer and then Lionsroar67 appeared, hopefully he is home today.
To cut a long story short I spent the entire trip with the fine OldTim67 and his minder BT and I think it is fair to say we had a hoot. We started off at the cheap as chips O Trevo for a few libations and eventually headed down to Hennessey’s. This is when my “jet lag” kicked in and apparently ate the meals of Kikinthenakas, EmbraMike and An Tearnan. I find this accusation difficult to believe as I wasn’t hungry. Shortly after this I lost my iPhone and the day ended.
Next day, still phoneless, we headed down to Fatima, myself, OT and BT after we eventually found the bus station. At the bus station we met the irrepressible Malorbhoy and our journey to Fatima began. At Fatima we met Connaire 12, CCB and his bhoy BMCUW along with the fine Teuchter Ar La. On our return to the bus station we decided to have a wee beer where the barman would have given the Rev I M Jolly a close run for his money. Whilst we were there we met Catman. Later that night a fine night was had by all and we spent time with Richie, whom I hope to meet tomorrow in BB’s. I had the good fortune to be at the table with MurdochAuldandHay, OneMalloy and his lovely daughter to name but a few. I also had the good fortune to meet up with Mouldybhoy again, what a guy. Apparently DD couldn’t make it because his ring had collapsed. Later we sat outside with Sipsini and his good lady and the Timreaper.
The following day was THE day. Kölncelt appeared and took over BT’s duties whilst we went to the Mass, a very emotional occasion! I doubt I’ll ever be at another Mass where the Celtic Song and YNWA will be played, apart from perhaps my funeral.
The day just got better after that with a trip to the stadium and 2 visits to Cafe Villa Cruz for pre and post Stadium libations and a mad Tuk Tuk trip with me, BT, OT, Kölncelt and Richie when we thought the Tuk Tuk was going to topple at the roundabout. During the visit to the Stadium we ran into many fine CQN’rs including ACGR, Skyisalandfill and Teuchter Ar La, who was offering his stones to be touched and many others to numerous to mention. On our 2nd trip to the Cafe Villa Cruz we were joined by DD who had invested in a new ring and became OT67’s Special Needs Consultant. Here I also had my photo taken with Awe_naw’s brothers and posted it on his FB page just to piss him off ;-)
Later that evening, well the Party in Pink Street was something to behold and a few libations were taken. All the usual suspects were there – CRC, Cowiebhoy and his good lady, Morrisey23 and Mags McGill but unfortunately no Awe_naw.
Friday was a day of rest, aye right.
Saturday saw the treble being won at Doca 6 in the company of the usual suspects along with Friesdorfer and his good lady and WITS and his better half. We then headed to the Irish&Co bar where Henrikschip and his missus were but all decided to head due to the number of London huns in that pub. We ended up in CR7 with DJ Kik and the CQN Crew finally rounding the night off in Mad Carlos’s bar. If I have missed anybody out please forgive me as some things are still a tad hazy.
I believe Montevideo is next on the cards – over to you BRTH :-)
THAT WAS THE WEEK THAT WAS,
Gardening duties having been suspended due to rain,I thought I would post about the Lisbon trip.
Almost certainly the best ever and that from a Happy Clapper!
Met loads of new Bhoys including Connaire who was everything that has already been said ,SIPSINI and other half,Onemalloy and daughter,Scanoel and same,Cowiebhoy and wife and MurdochAuld and Hay(the only completely sober person I met (exc Connaire)
The Lhad from London with his wife and two Bhoys (sorry mate a modicum had been partaken) whose name I forget,John not even a lurker Stevie at the golf same (see you at Dundonald),ACG’s Bhoy who hits a ball further than walk without a rest and all the other golfers.
Almost all done but special mention to TAL the most generous of men and of course BRTH for the do.
Needless to say BMCUWP looked after his faither superbly but he has had plenty of practice!
THAT’S ALL FOLKS!!
Amazing how BFSDJ and the likes, think Efe will be a great signing for Hibs, 2 faced rats, Senderdross anyone?