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Burden of history against Kilmarnock

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I don’t like the run-up to home games against Kilmarnock, this was especially so when Gordon Strachan was manager.  Someone would always ask Gordon the 1955 question, “Gordon, did you know….”  If you don’t know the question, don’t go looking for it.  It’s a fact that should ostensibly give you confidence but it only puts me into a nervous disposition.  During Gordon’s time, every game felt like a must-win game.  The carnage on here after a 2-2 home draw with Dundee United lives long in the memory, so the burden of a reversal at home to Kilmarnock would have been intolerable.

Celtic have an enormously impressive history which can inspire great things in the support but sometimes it’s evidently a burden to those having to go out and win the next game.  Jock Stein’s famous, “The Celtic jersey doesn’t shrink to fit inferior players” quote was meant to inspire greatness and awe, but I’ve seen it used to damn contemporary players who were in no way inferior to some who played for Celtic in Jock’s latter years in charge.

Kilmarnock beat Rangers last time out and will feel as though they let two points slip away against us earlier in the season.  Celtic should be sufficiently concerned to avoid premature Christmas cheer.

Best wishes to our friends at the Melbourne No. 1 CSC, who will be celebrating Christmas during tomorrow’s game.

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  1. saltires en sevilla on

    paddy turner

     

     

    you think far too many posters are argumentative and talk p@sh –

     

    of course you don’t fall into said category -not ever?

     

     

    I remember I set a wee fun friday crackerjack question for a bottle of malt: you responded (not quoting my name?) with wrong answer a few times and when finally corrected to the right answer you added that said question was p@sh

     

     

    how does that square with your post above?

     

     

    mebbe have a wee look in the miror before you look out the windae ;-)

     

     

    hope you have a good Christmas and New Year 2012

     

     

    hh

     

     

    m

  2. Tough game…..we joke

     

    Craig whyte had his done hacked by the sun…..they put £10 credit on it !!

  3. Dont know if its just me but I wish posters wouldnt be so confident of victory on the 28th as it always makes me feel this overconfidence will come back to haunt us, Il just say I hope we play as well as we have been recently no 4-0 3-0 scorelines from me

     

     

    NR Vous csc

  4. !!Bada Bing!! Kano 1000 on

    Does santa really live in the north pole??

     

     

    Lets look at the evidence…

     

     

    1- Wears red and white

     

     

    2- Good at breaking into houses

     

     

    3- Has loads of electrical goods nobody can trace

     

     

    4- Drives an un-licensed vehicle

     

     

    5- Only does one days work a year

     

     

    Lapland my a€$£… He’s a scouser!

     

    cue the same bhoy as last week.

  5. Whether or not the Huns have a fire-sale in January depends purely on whether such a course of action is in the interests of Craig Whyte. What is best for Rangers is almost certainly of no concern to him – the interests of the football club and CW may overlap, but his main concern is how he can exit RFC with a profit.

     

     

    I believe his initial aim was quite simple: Use the fans money to purchase the debt (in the form of season ticket revenues, (or mortgaging these in the future); set himself up as main creditor; use European money to fund his “warchest”; and sit back and wait for the FTT verdict. As revealed in the Bain Papers, CW speculated that a bill over 15million would see insolvency; anything less could be lived with one way or another.

     

     

    Insolvency would see him clean up, as the main creditor. Survival for RFC would see him suddenly owning a valuable asset which he would almost certainly be able to sell to collection of RFC-minded individuals. Either way, a nice profit for Craigy boy, and probably no blame attached to him if it all went tits-up.

     

     

    Unfortunately for him, Master Tactician Sally managed to get the team pumped out of 2 European trophies at the hands of comically bad opponents. As soon as that happened CW had a problem- no Euro money meant that there was no cash to fund his warchest. On top of this, arrestments piled up and HMRC began to box clever about other bills owed to it. Suddenly cash-flow was his central worry.

     

     

    The result is that CW is embattled: He cannot get the accounts signed off (a remarkable humiliation for RFC and one that is attracting scandalously little attention in the MSM); and he faces the prospect of running out of money before the tax case crystalises. In this new situation, a fire-sale of playing assets may well be a wise course of action – certainly it would keep the whole show on the road for another few months.

     

     

    On the other hand, he may want to brazen it out, keep the team together, and hope a combination of payday loans, late payment of bills, and mortgaging assets can see him through to the championship and possible Euro jackpot. This is a long-shot, but he is clearly a gambler so he might give it a go.

  6. saltires en sevilla on

    Paul67

     

     

    we should have enough to sort Killers out this weekend

     

     

    if we focus on the 3 points …I would not hold anything back for the rankers game

     

     

    that one takes care of itself

     

     

    3 points v killers… nothing else will do

     

     

    ps good luck with the reception tonite…wish I could be there (not travelling up until sat)

     

     

    HH

     

     

    M

  7. Pesky iPad spell corrector

     

     

    Craig whyte had his phone hacked by the sun……they put £10 credit on it!

  8. Paul67

     

     

    Wont be on this site much over the next few days – so have a great Christmas and thanks for CQN for what has been another rollercoaster year. Your time and effort well appreciated by us all.

  9. row z \o/ (O) Mississippi Burnin Nearer Home on

    Illicit Fog

     

     

    I know some of you have been interested in Mr Smith’s testimony. Apparently it’s all verbal.

     

     

    My request:

     

     

    On the 3 November 2011, Celtic FC played Rennes at a football match at Celtic Park Glasgow. The match commander that evening, a Mr E Smith, made reports to UEFA in regard to what has been described in the media as ‘Illicit Chanting’.

     

    I would like a copy of Mr Smith’s formal report to UEFA, any supporting documentation or recordings and any subsequent correspondence emerging from that initial report.

     

     

    From Mr Smith’s Employers:

     

     

    I refer to your correspondence of 12 December 2011, which was received by Strathclyde Police on that date.

     

     

    Your request for information has now been considered and I can advise you that Strathclyde Police does not hold any of the information requested by you. In terms of Section 17 of the Act, this letter represents a formal notice that information is not held.

     

     

    By way of explanation, at all UEFA fixtures the governing body allocates a delegate to oversee the fixture and report on the match official, coaching staff, players and supporter conduct. The delegate will liaise with the police Match Commander both prior to and at the conclusion of the match to ascertain if there were any police issues. At the conclusion of a fixture the delegate will ask the Match Commander for the number of arrests and whether these involved home or away supporters. The delegate will also ask whether there are any other incidents either on or off the field that the Match Commander wishes highlighted within the delegate’s report. This is the point when supporter behaviour will be highlighted, including the singing of offensive songs.

     

     

    If the Match Commander has any concerns the information is given orally and may be evidenced through the provision of CCTV. Accordingly, the number of times a Match Commander has asked for supporter behaviour, or any other incident, to be included in a delegate report is not recorded by the Force.

     

     

    As you will be aware, under the Act, an individual can only ask for information that is recorded and held by a public authority, in this instance as any recorded information would be contained within the delegate report that is the property of UEFA and not a police document, the requested information cannot be supplied by Strathclyde Police.

     

     

     

     

    Not the kind of evidencing and recording you might expect in order to produce a conviction?

     

     

    HH

  10. Paul67.

     

     

    Really can’t see a problem against Killie, IF we play half as good as we can we will get the 3 points, hopefully Kenny Sheils sets his team up to play football, he seems like an honest genuine football man, unlike his counterpart at the ragers.

     

     

    Anyways, have a happy festive season, and many thanks for your time giving us this blog, yer an estrella of the highest order.

     

     

    BCC

     

     

    Never saw your posts, only saw people talking to nobody, when I read back and there was more than you.

  11. MurdochauldandHay says:

     

     

    23 December, 2011 at 12:12

     

     

    Dont know if its just me but I wish posters wouldnt be so confident of victory on the 28th as it always makes me feel this overconfidence will come back to haunt us

     

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    Well said, MaH. None of these sides are mugs nowadays. Whenever complacency infects the team we are a busted flush. Attitude is 50% of the equation.

     

     

    Question for historians: which was the last SPL side to have a three goal lead on Celtic at half-time?

  12. Vmhan, Kano 1000 – Supporting Lenny & the Green Brigada! says:

     

    23 December, 2011 at 12:25

     

    BelfastcityCelt I was on the blog until 1am this morning and read this mornings posts.

     

     

    It looks like you have posted but for some reason they never appeared on the blog, Fortunes Favour was posting earlier in reply to someone at a time when there were no posts, that’s curious innaw. Looks like a server problem.

     

     

    Additionally, I believe only Paul67 can delete posts and there is no way he was up in the middle of the night deleting posts, besides he always gives the reason why a post has been deleted.

     

     

    Ps CQN’ers if you’re post is a long one then save it prior to posting, ye know it makes sense.

     

     

    V

     

     

    share

     

     

     

     

    Vmhan, Kano 1000 – Supporting Lenny & the Green Brigada! says:

     

    23 December, 2011 at 12:27

     

    Doctastic at 12:11, hi Mr Docherty, did I get the spelling right :>)

     

     

    V

  13. Moonbeams WD. \o/ Supporting Neil Lennon 100%. says:

     

     

    23 December, 2011 at 12:28

     

     

    Hey, wait a minute. Who said anything about a tenner?

  14. “Rangers are to explore the possibility of introducing a safe-standing section for supporters at Ibrokes”

     

     

    Somebody must have offered folding money to buy the seats from them.

  15. Paul67, thanks for giving us this site to vent our spleen or pass the time!

     

    I am a short term lurker and have enjoyed the various debates that have raged on here all season.

     

     

    Special mention to the Battered B, Anaw, Exiled T, Bada B, Moonbeams, Bournesrecipe, Johan, The Idiot, Joe’s Hairdo, Saltires, Starry P & Lubo.

     

     

    Apologies to those who aren’t listed above, too many to mention.

     

     

    Whatever lies ahead for the team i hope you will all continue to support and defend them against those who would do us wrong.

     

     

    A happy Christmas and prosperous New Year to you and yours!

     

     

    HH.

     

     

    AoW

  16. Ah, Cille Mheàrnaig.

     

     

    Johnnie Walker.

     

     

    The Joyful Kilmarnock Blues.

     

     

    Biffy Clyro.

     

     

    Hugh McIlvanney.

     

     

    Squirrels.

     

     

    Beat them, Celtic. (thumbsup)

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