Alexander (Sandy) Bryson has been mentioned in reports concerning another controversial matter in SFA history. He was Head of Registrations when Celtic tried to register Jorge Cadete in 1996. That case led to SFA chief executive, Jim Farry, being dismissed for gross misconduct after he failed to register the player in time for him to face Rangers in a Scottish Cup tie.
The Burness report into what happened noted that Farry “deflected responsibility to Mr (Sandy] Bryson (head of registrations] …. (on] certain executive decisions”. In a contemporary article, Mirror Group Newspapers noted “it is unclear what part registration chief Sandy Bryson may have played in this debacle”.
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fourgreenfields
We already know what they done!
Hijacked a dead clubs name and license with the assistance of the SFA when they had no accounts and no-one knew who the actual owner was.
This is a country run for the benefit of The Peepul. All we can do is keep getting up when they put us down and getting the odd kick at their baws in.
All these folk in high places doing their bidding and bending/breaking the the rules for them and they still end up a deid clubs tribute act, skint and grubbing around in the nether regions of scoddish football. And they claim victory. You’ve got to laugh. Bring on the Buddies, and Juve
(6) Rangers FC did not gain any unfair competitive advantage from the contraventions of the SPL Rules in failing to make proper disclosure of the side-letter arrangements, nor did the non-disclosure have the effect that any of the registered players were ineligible to play, and for this and other reasons no sporting sanction or penalty should be imposed upon Rangers FC;
Lets call a spade a spade, its a masonic conspiracy, cheated then, cheated now, to be cheated lots more in the future.
tomtheleedstim
15:44 on 28 February, 2013
Can I Have Raspberry On That Champions League Ice Cream
“And first dab on the goat. No doubt”
LOL – needed that.
Make one person smile a day adds a day to your life.
Sorry but can’t remember who told that.
HH
Listening to or rather reading the requests (demands in some cases) from some of the contributors on CQN tonight that the Celtic board issue a statement saying whatever/something re the disgraceful but not unexpected verdict today……..
I felt no, not likely to happen IMO. We will carry on as ‘normal’……. Disenchanted and disappointed, aye but ‘twas ever thus………
And then, I thought, hey, I was never the greatest fan of ‘The Bunnet’ but you know I think if he was still at the helm, he might just have had something to say…………..
Just a thought!!!
Regards & Hail Hail
TBM
AH..
Margaret McGill..
Old Potty- Mouthed Maggie..
How ur ye?
Kojo
Still.. Laughin’
Where is The Bunnet when you need him?
asonofdan
Nice response , especially the bit out kicking their haw maws.
HH
danso_1888 15:35 on 28 February, 2013
“you seem to think this is about sevco its not”
I don’t think it is about Sevco at all. I was responding to specific points regarding Sevco and the liquidated club.
You may have misunderstood those posts. But be sure, I know exactly what today’s events were about and who they related to.
what really sickens me is more than them cheating is that our leaders will sit down and reconstruct with the very same people as if nothing is wrong, how bloody sick is that.
Too quick on the post:
(6) Rangers FC did not gain any unfair competitive advantage from the contraventions of the SPL Rules in failing to make proper disclosure of the side-letter arrangements, nor did the non-disclosure have the effect that any of the registered players were ineligible to play, and for this and other reasons no sporting sanction or penalty should be imposed upon Rangers FC;
If you look at the table on page 18 of the Ruling payments in direct wages decreased markedly whilst EBT payments increased markedly. This meant that the huns paid less tax and PAYE and so gave them a greater cash flow. How does this equate to not having an unfair competitive advantage?
Is there a CQN dress code tomorrow night or will be recognised by hitting our phones for the quiz
Pog
I was thinking the same it didn’tmatter about bryson’s evidence it was lns assumption that no advantage was gained.
So when i get caught breaking into a bullion safe i’ll get a fine because i didn’t gain financial advantage
Steinreignedsupreme,
sorry if i picked it up wrong.
Can I Have Raspberry On That Champions League Ice Cream
“Make one person smile a day adds a day to your life.
Sorry but can’t remember who told that.”
If it was Lord Nimmo Smith he’ll fecking live for ever after today.
A reaction to the decision:
Nimmo Smith Finds Rangers Guilty – But Crime Does Pay
At the end of the day they have been found guilty of cheating no matter how any hun or hun apologist tries to dress it up,any trophy they’ve won in the past 12 plus years is well and truly tainted. Never let them forget that
In the cold light of day , could we realistically have expected real justice to be done?
When this all kicked of with the Hun desperately denying financial meltdown, we would have all I’m sure have been content with them going into liquidation. That happened and they are still dead , no matter how often they deny it.
We know they cheated, they know they cheated, the SFA know they cheated and more importantly UEFA know they are a toxic new club.
Guilty of Sectarianism, guilty of cheating, guilty of robbing the butcher, the baker , the candlestick maker and all UK tax payers of millions. They really are the people.
I, for one am reinvigorated in my love of my club and will savour any victory , however small, with renewed enthusiasm.
I await the day we can escape and let them rot , however , remember the principled stance of Hibs, Aberdeen , D UTD , Raith Rovers and many more during the summer .
I would love those of integrity to escape with us and let Newco play Kilmarnock every week, maybe they could invite Linfield to join them.
Although thoroughly depressed and exasperated , even angry, I and we should not let them prevail.
Yours in Celtic.
God bless this fine site, Paul 67, Teuchter, Miki 67 and wee Oscar.
They are a million times the people they are!!
cheats then
cheats now
cheats forever.
saddened but not suprised.
SFA ran away from conducting the contracts investigation and the excuse was that it would be the appellate body. Some distance had to be kept.
SFA Head of Registration provides the evidence that allows Nimmo Smith to come up with some ‘reason’ for his get out of jail card.
So much for having to keep some distance!
Furthermore, it suggests that had Nimmo Smith found otherwise then the appeal to the SFA was a stonewall certainty to succeed because the SFA Head of Registration would have been guiding the appeals body !
tomtheleedstim
15:53 on 28 February, 2013
Can I Have Raspberry On That Champions League Ice Cream
“Make one person smile a day adds a day to your life.
Sorry but can’t remember who told that.”
If it was Lord Nimmo Smith he’ll fecking live for ever after today.
Zombies can’t smile, fact.
I posted this morning the Council for Arbitration in Sport might be getting a call, will be futile after this Masonic cover up.
danso_1888
15:51 on
28 February, 2013
I don’t believe sevco have a place at the table. If you mean the sfa , our leaders have no choice.
Can the rest of Scottish Football appeal this decision?
Teams that have an unfair competitive advantage : Celtic, Man Utd, Chelsea, Man City, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, etc. The unfair competitive advantage is cash but with the clubs mentioned it comes not from tax evasion but from legitimate means. The huns had an unfair financial competitive advantage but their finances did not come from legitimate sources. It came from the British tax payer.
There is a difference!
There’s no good spin on this guys.
It’s genuinely depressing. The thinly veiled threats of McCoist and Green sit clarion clear now.
They’ve been allowed to behave reprehensibly (In every sense of the word, in every parameter of it) and get away with it. Dumping toxic debt (Forever linked to one man’s ’empire’), having a handy patsy available whom the media (Traynor led I might add) made a point of vilifying.
And the tub thumping went on and big, bad Alastair shouted there will be no stripping of titles – and there wasn’t.
Too big to punish. It was only their own men’s incompetence that caused them to fail.
Every approach seems to have been the wrong approach.
And it would seem that if you scrutinise the detail not only do you find the Devil, but you might just find he’s the answer too.
So – let me get this right – it’s wrong, but it’s only wrong if I make you aware of it????????
Sad, sad times.
I love my club.
But I detest a part of my country which could not only stand by a dead club, but be up to their necks in making it’s ba**ard offspring the same thing.
Unsurpassed dignity.
They were right you know – no one could ever come close to that shower.
Celebrating the act of the union, wearing wee saltires on their collars whilst dumping every other club in the nation.
But then this is the only country I know where ex-oldco players and connections can get sacked for poor results in one club and be made manager of another, better off club, in a month…
The Masonic Merry Go Round.
Done with it all.
When Deadco get back in the new, improved Deadco friendly top tier – I would rather we found a way to forfeit any game we were meant to play against them.
Ntassoolla
15:20 on
28 February, 2013
gamriestu @15:00 my first reaction, and I’m not a lawyer, is why did the Learned Lord Nimmo Smith rely on Bryson for the correct interpretation of the rules and application of procedure? What was Lord Nimmo for?
At the risk of being flippant, he might as well have asked Bryson;
“Did you make a Archie of it?
Bryson “Naw, did ah f@~!”
Case over.
Absolutely…………….why didn’t the learned judge not ask Mr Bryson of evidence from years of cases involving player registrations? the evidence of a hundred years of the SFA having a applying punishment to clubs which would have been in direct opposition to Mr Brysons interpretation given to the commision
This was a political outcome IMO, Mr Bryson is only a patsy
So, a precedent has been set. The penalty for side letters is £250k. The benefit allows you to sign players you usually couldnt and win prizes and income you previously couldnt
So, we should be doing this now
danso_1888 15:52 on 28 February, 2013
No problem.
!!Bada Bing!!
15:58 on
28 February, 2013
Can the rest of Scottish Football appeal this decision?
The SPL Board can appeal. They won’t. They’ll see it as closure with minimal damage and give us the ‘time to move on platitudes’
Ulysses
Thanks – that’s how I feel but couldn’t put it into words
West Ham play 1 ineligible player for 1 season £35Million fine. Rangers play a whole squad of ineligible players for 9 years 250k fine.
Pogmathonyahun aka Laird of the Smiles
15:51
They did gain an unfair competitive advantage, on and off the field. Today was about Sandy Bryson’s evidence giving them what they thought was a way of sashaying their way out of the consequences of their cheating by saying that the players were eligible to play because Sandy didn’t tell them they were ineligible.
Pogmathonyahun
My first thoughts too, but what LNS is saying is that the payments were not irregular and therefore had they declared them the players would have been deemed properly registered. The results on the field would not have been altered as a consequence of disclosure or non-disclosure. I think the suggestion is that non-disclosure was primarily motivated by PAYE and NIC ‘aggressive avoidance’ / evasion.
Don’t shoot the messenger. There are several other huge flaws in the reasoning in my opinion. And you are absolutely right that unfair sporting advantage was obtained by EBTs, but this was not what LNS was asked to investigate.
Don’t shoot the messenger.
TwoMacaroons,
there is always a choice and its about the right one.
You’re welcome
Afternoon
At my lunch and learning the news. Indigestion may follow. I think that if Rangers had been acquitted it would have been more satisfactory than this snowjob
With respect to Paul and others I am not convinced that the evidence of one SFA official – minor and unknown- is enough for the result reached. I am really disgusted by this
Totally understand why some have said they’ll be giving up their season tickets. I would like to know what Celtic ( Club)response to this is – sadly I fear it’ll be just more mealy mouthed, mixed signal fence sitting as that’s all we usually get from them . If we get one that is.
Ah well
Jimbo