Cautionary tale from Denmark

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Midtjylland play their second league game of the season away to AaB Aalborg tomorrow evening, hoping to win their first points.  Aab finished seventh last term, so it is a game Midtjylland will feel they have to win to get their domestic campaign on track.

Celtic are free of competitive pressures this weekend, facing West Ham at home tomorrow, where we can give players still working on their fitness an hour, then rest them for the trip to Denmark.

There is plenty of confidence ahead of the second leg against Midtjylland after a solid performance on Tuesday night but the name Aalborg will cause many of us to flinch.  The then Danish champions travelled to Celtic Park in the 2008 Champions League group stage.  It is fair to say they could be the weakest team we faced at that level, but indecisive finishing, for some of the game against 10 men, and a missed Barry Robson penalty, meant the game finished 0-0.

Celtic bossed the return leg at Aab’s tiny stadium and Robson atoned for his penalty miss by giving the visitors a second half lead.

Here’s the thing about football.  You can think you are safe, then a deflected shot flies in from nowhere and a deflected cross hits a defender and allows a semi-professional outfit to beat Celtic to the Uefa Cup spot.

I hope we use every moment of our preparatory time tomorrow wisely.  Nothing can be taken for granted.

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  1. Absolute tosh.

     

     

    76, 78, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, in my lifetime were all abject in comparison to last season.

  2. BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 23RD JULY 2021 1:26 PM

     

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    Excellent points, well made….hard to find fault.

  3. Great choice of guest speaker at the Caddy Shack in Aberdour later on this evening.

     

    Jim McCalliog, Wembley hero at twenty years old.

     

    Another one that got away, initially to Leeds I note following in the footsteps of Billy Bremner, Eddie Grey et al.

  4. vinniethedog on

    Two or three weeks i think we beat the danes ..at the moment 50/50……they looked better than st mirror or motherwell…more a decent Aberdeen…but certainly nothing special…..

     

    Earlier stuff on Julien…….his nose was definitely put out of joint by Shane Duffy….twice the wage half the player….One of lennys many mistakes last year !!!…dropping him for Duffy after the 5 0 Ross Co win at St Mirren….a huge error but one of many…

  5. MELBOURNE MICK on 23RD JULY 2021 1:22 PM

     

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    Hear Hear (are you reading Wee Bobby?😄).

     

     

    I echo your sentiments HH.

  6. CHAIRBHOY,

     

    I know what you wrote.PL was CEO under Brian Quinn,yes I know that.So,according to you,he can take no credit for anything won in that period.Although,I totally disagree with that,I find it very strange you would think that.If the CEO should get no recognition for success,only the Chairman,why have you been so vehemently opposed to PL.Should it not be ,say Bankier,carrying the can for last season,and taking the plaudits for before?

     

     

    Same with any Chairman before him.I find it unfathomable that you can change your tune to suit your agenda.

     

    But again,you canny beat a good old “Agenda”

  7. Melbourne Mick on

    AN TEARMANN

     

     

    How are you mhate, I was trying a wee bit of negativity there, but

     

    nobody took me on lol.

     

    And I felt dirty after it.

     

    What a player right enough, but unfortunately quite a few have got

     

    away over the years.

     

    H.H. Mick

  8. BSR @ 1.26

     

     

    NL in the showers — biggest downer ever on the day of a SC win.

     

    It was talk of many steamies that the news killed the celebrations stone dead.

     

    My surprise was how many — some who we glass half full people — were taken aback by the decision.

     

    The manager chat at the time was who could we get in — RB being the dream pick.

     

    Fair enough he took the China money — we all would — but that is where we needed to be.

     

    Not a guy who was a shadow of his former self and who had been shown the door 5 years before.

     

     

    Then you have the loan fixation / addiction — what could possibly go wrong?

     

    Last season we played games with three loan players in the back 4.

     

    And guess what they performed as if it was a beer game.

     

     

    Finally what is the big picture that PL left us with?

     

    For the record I only see rudderless squad needing a full rebuild.

     

     

    AP / DMcK are fixing those issues — issues that PL left behind.

     

    He — PL — was out of his depth and last season proves it.

  9. MADMITCH on 23RD JULY 2021 1:27 PM

     

    TB @ 1.13

     

     

     

     

     

     

    God loves a trier and you are trying harder than most — as has been explained to you many times — PL was not responsible “29 trophies in 17 years”.

     

     

    You see,this is where we disagree.If he was not responsible,as CEO,then who was.If he was not,then he was not responsible for last season,or anything else bad about Celtic.You cannot cherry pick to suit your agenda.

     

    No matter how hard YOU try.Already had this with CHAIRBHOY.

  10. BACK TO BASICS – GLASS HALF FULL on 23RD JULY 2021 11:31 AM

     

    Big Jimmy …

     

    …………….

     

    I cant remember the name of the SHOP…However its a few doors down from the SHIPBANK Pub, and sited next to The BIKE Shop on the Saltmarket.

     

    I am not going out Today after all, and Im not dressed etc…but…i can have a look Tomorrow or on Sunday morning and Post the name of the Shop etc on here…if you wish ?

     

    HH.

  11. CM @ 1.33

     

     

    Did you get my post about the comparison between East Berlin and the East End of Glasgow — 86 / late eighties.

     

     

    Any chance you could provide more details / sources?

     

    I had heard it before but never found the base information.

  12. OFFER….!

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Approx 40 Celtic VHS Videos to be given away for FREE !

     

     

    If interested please just let me know asap on here, or by Text if you have my phone number ?

     

     

    My mate is happy for someone to go to his home in the North of Glasgow and COLLECT all the Videos, once I have arranged a Day and Time etc for collection to anyone who may be interested ?

     

     

     

    Also, there is a Shop near my local Pub which will transfer the VIDEOS onto DVDs….but ( I THINK), the shop charges £5 for each one…although maybe a lesser charge MAY apply, considering thats its approx 40 Videos ?

     

     

    Let me know IF you are interested in these FREE Celtic Videos asap ?

     

     

     

     

    HH Bhoys and Ghirls.

  13. BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 23RD JULY 2021 1:26 PM

     

     

    ‘Dermot Desmond doesn’t own the club, he is the major shareholder but does not own the majority of shares, if only he did he might consider the investment we all crave.’

     

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    If you ever want to buy a bridge, let me know. I’ve got the very thing for you.

  14. Having been at Hampden and news broke that Neil was appointed, no one around me stop celibrating, it was kinda just accpeted that it had to be.

     

     

    Maybe I dreamt “the one neil lennon” chant going round the ground.

     

     

    Maybe I dreamt the green brigade celebrations in the ASDA car park.

     

     

    I tell ye, nothing sound more “self entitled” than feeling down about the manager who has just delivered a trophy and a treble. How bizzare.

     

     

    How was your day out at disney ? Great day out but kinda spoiled cos I never got on Its A Small World

  15. Melbourne Mick on

    Billy Bremner

     

    Tony Green

     

    Eddie Gray

     

    Joe Jordan

     

    Jim McCalliog

     

    O.k it’s a list, add your own massive Tims who should have

     

    worn the hoops.

     

    H.H. Mick

  16. 78.

     

     

    League Position – 5th. Finished 19 points behind champions Rangers (at 2 point for a win)

     

     

     

     

    League Cup – Losing Finalist

     

    Scottish Cup – 4th Round

     

    European Cup – Second Round

  17. TB @ 1.41

     

     

    It is all a matter of flow.

     

     

    The board / CEO pick the manager.

     

    The board / CEO set the budgets and performance targets.

     

    The budgets includes an element of sales to be delivered.

     

     

    PL as CEO got heavily involved in recruitment / transfers.

     

    The manager takes the squad and works on coaching and conditioning along with motivation.

     

    The captain takes the team onto the park and delivers local encouragement.

     

     

    Sometimes this works and everybody plays their part — hoorays all-round.

     

    Sometimes it does not — see last season for an extreme example.

     

     

    PL pushed for NL to be the new manager in 2019.

     

    PL mucked up the recruitment process with agent friendly buys / inflated price tags / projects / loan addiction and finally a ban on transfers out that had the effect that you would come to expect given the industry and the people involved.

     

    PL saw our collapse a year ago and did nothing to change the direction of travel — NL was struggling post lockdown to the point of irrelevance and the squad revolted in stages.

     

    PL just kept on fiddling and the rest is tragedy.

     

     

    When things go well — PL is / was part of that success.

     

    When things go badly to the point of caricature — you have to ask why and how.

     

    PL was the point man and he did nothing — he started the ball rolling and he stood aside as it careered downhill.

  18. Melbourne Mick on

    STIVES

     

     

    Two outstanding players, and proud to say I had Frank’s company many a

     

    time on the midnight train to Eberdeen, and arrived there much the worse

     

    for wear.

     

    To put it mildly.

     

    H.H. Mick

  19. prestonpans bhoys on

    SAINT STIVS on 23RD JULY 2021 1:57 PM

     

     

    I was actually at every game that season, home and away. More money than sense those days😱

  20. Melbourne Mick on

    How about this for drinking company.

     

    Frank McDougal, Cowboy McCormack, Pat McCluskey

     

    and Tommy Burns aul man.

     

    Pretty good eh ?

     

    H.H. Mick

  21. Melbourne Mick on

    PHLBHOY

     

     

    You spoiled that slightly by slipping in a ersehole. lol.

     

    H.H. Mick

  22. TURKEYBHOY @ 1:35 PM,

     

     

    That’s not what I said, again my point was that after Brian Quinn the roles changed.

     

     

    Traditionally it is the Chairman that is head of a football Club. In a PLC the CEO is normally the main man.

     

     

    In the article I linked it states quite clearly when Peter Lawwell joined Celtic it was as an “operations” Director. A job he wasn’t cut out for, Celtic went into reverse in every aspect of our operations… although granted as a finance guy he knew his stuff.

     

     

    After BQ Celtic went into full PLC mode and the CEO was the main man.

     

     

    John Reid was the public face of Celtic but it was the Big Pedro calling the shots, also Bankier is a part time PLC Chairmen, not a football club Chairmen. His role is very clear and his full-time job is elsewhere.

     

     

    Big Pedro took over from Brian Quinn with the same manager and team – now to correct myself we did win the league that Season, but you see a downturn in our fortunes under WGS and Tony Mowbray.

     

     

    It isn’t a matter of changing midstream to suit an agenda. It is what happened and is not difficult to follow.

     

     

    The Quinn role at Celtic and the Bankier role at Celtic are totally different and it is the agenda driven that cannot see that.

     

     

    My comments far from being agenda driven is facts driven. With all due respect, your comments are simply rhetoric.

     

     

    When Big Pedro arrived

     

     

    We had a state of the art academy in the offing

     

     

    We had channel67 TV

     

     

    We had Celtic TV

     

     

    We had a relatively new Stadium that sold out its SBs

     

     

    We had top class Internet site and media operations

     

     

    We had a great retail merchandising department

     

     

    We were punching our weight in Europe

     

     

    We were the finest team in Scotland

     

     

    We had the Seville experience and fair play awards

     

     

    We had the Celtic Charter

     

     

    We had Pubs and Clubs in ever major City and town in the UK where you could gather with fellow Celts to see the games

     

     

    We had top class manager, coaches, back room staff that kept our players at peek condition.

     

     

    I could go on and on but them the facts – that’s the organisation Peter Lawwell joined. What he’s left is a sad shadow.

     

     

    So maybe refute me with facts and not rhetoric;)

     

     

    Hail Hail

  23. Chairbhoy @ 12.47

     

     

    All good here, thankfully.

     

     

    There’s no hot water in the gents in the Northstand? The main and front stand, and dressing rooms have prevented Celtic Park being a Euro venue since the new stadium went up. Maybe Dominic McKay will really pick up the baton, by ditching the Museum, and additional training facilities. There are too many dusty blueprints of plans for Celtic, one of them was kicking about with Jack McGinn on an open day, before Fergus.

     

     

    Development of talent, whether at Barrowfield or Lennoxtown is less contentious fail for sure. We are long overdue a ‘review’ or visit to Ajax again, perhaps another task for Dom.

     

     

    The plan seems to be to get other clubs developing talent, we must be doing something right on salaries there, because we’re in, no dithering and making offers young players can’t refuse © Liam Shaw.

     

     

    The board let us down over Res12 and sporting integrity, no question about it, and in the end season, they hid behind an unpopular manager, because change was too tough, too late, and too fraught. They then went on to demonstrate their theory, with the abortive attempt for Eddie Howe.

     

     

    PL ditched the ‘all the money will be reinvested in the team’ years ago, if Ange gets backed in the transfer market, with ST’s all sold he’ll get us back very quickly to where we left off, as the only legitimate ‘big’ club in the SPL.

     

     

    HH

  24. BSR @ 1:26,

     

     

    Dermot Desmond doesn’t own the club, he is the major shareholder but does not own the majority of shares, if only he did he might consider the investment we all crave.

     

     

    Do you know how DD increased his shareholding to get a controlling interest and in doing so didn’t hit the difficulties Dave King did at Rangers MKII?

     

     

    Hail Hail

  25. JHB

     

     

    To be fair, if we played how we did in midweek against St Mirren, I think we would’ve won two or three-nil.

     

     

    Midtjylland were no great shakes and I’m optimistic we’ll finish the job but I’m still pretty certain they’re a notch above most SPFL dross….

  26. Chairbhoy

     

     

    Do you get the difference between a non-executive chairman and an executive director?

     

     

    When did PL’s role title change from COO to CEO?

  27. CHAIRBHOY on 23RD JULY 2021 2:16 PM

     

     

    “Do you know how DD increased his shareholding to get a controlling interest and in doing so didn’t hit the difficulties Dave King did at Rangers MKII?”

     

     

    Do you?

  28. BOURNESOUPRECIPE @ 2:15 PM,

     

     

    Excellent post, Dom McKay was in charge of Murray field a first class operation by all accounts.

     

     

    The blueprints are a matter of history but I really think by PL taking the expedient route at every turn, we find ourselves behind in every aspect of our operations – let’s face it, we had the money to invest.

     

     

    No hot water in these covid times is just completely unjustified.

     

     

    Still, as I said excellent post and is totally congruent with my optimistic view point. There’s a lot of hard work to do but a huge will to get it done.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  29. Melbourne Mick on

    Looks as though the heavy hitters are going at it now, think

     

    I’ll retire and wonder what could have been with players like

     

    big Joe Mc Lauchlan, Steve Clarke, when we needed them.

     

    H.H. Mick

  30. Tim Malone Will Tell on

    Does DD have a controlling interest? Or is he allied with other major shareholders to provide a de facto majority?

  31. CELTIC40ME @ 2:18 PM,

     

     

    Not sure I do.

     

     

    However we had two share issues, these were underwritten by DD, at each share issue he was paid in shares for this, increasing his shareholding.

     

     

    He wrote to the exchange authorities asking to be excused from making a bid for all the other shares if he went past the 30% shareholding due to the share issues. The exchange authorities agreed.

     

     

    He has subsequently increased his shareholding.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  32. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    Big Jimmy – thank you.

     

     

    Much appreciated.

     

     

    Like many Glaswegians seeking directions …. pubs are a common reference point for me.

     

     

    🤔

     

     

    I know the Old Ship Bank.

     

     

    I’ll find the shop.

     

     

    Cheers

  33. Melbourne Mick 1.56 p.m.

     

     

    I suggest Tommy Craig was a massive miss by Celtic, what a player

  34. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    SAINT STIVS @ 1:32 PM

     

     

    Absolute tosh.

     

     

    76, 78, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, in my lifetime were all abject in comparison to last season.

     

     

    ———-

     

     

    Saint Stivs – agree on most of the above.

     

     

    I would add 1980?

     

     

    It was BAD !!!

     

     

    Or the end was.

     

     

    We absolutely chucked away the league.

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