It wasn’t just that delicious through ball for Aberdeen’s first goal on Saturday which should be an eye-opener for Celtic. They tried the tactic repeatedly, as Celtic relied on the speed of Liam Scales and Alistair Johnston to recover the situation.
Celtic regularly commit eight men to attacking positions. On occasion against Aberdeen, we saw the deepest Celtic defender 70 yards from his own goal. This works if the opponent does not possess great speed in attack, or if they cannot coordinate a sublime pass and a run from deep. But after recent games, you can be sure that every side planning to face Celtic will develop a plan to exploit this setup. I fear for us in Bergamo if Atalanta enjoy such freedoms.
In the early 80s, the joke was that Rangers season ended before Blackpool’s – referring to the town’s tourist trade, not the football club. Blackpool now run their Illuminations season into November, which gives Newco a few more weeks of hope before finishing ahead of Blackpool.
They appointed a new manager in October or early November in 2021, 2022 and 2023. Phiilippe Clement, the latest saviour-turned-charlatan’s best hope of survival is that there is literally no executive directors in charge of the club capable of making a material decision.
All of this melodrama is unnecessary and wasteful. They will continue to loop in sequences of hope and despair until they face the harsh reality. Competing with a very well run, financially stronger, opponent, is difficult and cannot be achieved without incredible luck, rule breaking or dangerous risk taking.
Incredible luck happens in sport and remains Newco’s best hope for short-term success. Rule breaking has been tried and was successful at Ibrox, but with chronic consequences.
Dangerous risk taking is the order of the day there now. The consequences will not be liquidation and a ‘Rangers 3.0’ phoenix , but it could mean seasons of mid-table finishes, like version 1.0 saw when we first heard that Blackpool joke.
Live within your means, lads. It’s not going to make you popular with the fans, but it sure is worth it!
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DESSYBHOY on 21ST OCTOBER 2024 3:53 PM
If its Mayo he was released by Sevco
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Not Mayo who is a RB. Tall lad with braided hair. Name began with ‘A’ I think.
Aberdeen player Duk was shown a yellow card at 55minutes,he then deliberately handle the ball to “score” a third for them ,rightly disallowed,running away to celebrate.
This was deliberate cheating ,why was he not given a second yellow then sent off..? HH
Not been scrolling so might be posting much the same as others have done but my tuppence worth on the weekend:-
1. Saturday was a terrific game we should have won and 9 times out of 10 would have done but for some goal line heroics from Aberdeen
2. I fear the ball through the middle has become what the high ball to the back post was a few years back -a weakness obvious to many coaches, especially in Europe , which is exploited mercilessly and to our cost. I felt Scales ( who was otherwise terrific IMHO ) should have stepped out and played Sokler offside but perhaps lack of game time with Trusty and Valle made him lack the confidence to do so. Perhaps if CCV and Taylor were on the field he might have done. Even if CCV was playing the ball through the middle is an issue for us. Much as I think CCV is as important a player as we have , he can be slow on the turn if he doesn’t block a through ball or get touch tight to the attacker so he can use his strength.
3. We had two of our most influential players (overall and not just in defence) – CCV and Taylor – out. Aberdeen were at full strength, especially in defence ( their back 4 had played every minute of every league game to that point) , and it showed, particularly in the second half when mostly what they had to do was just get bodies in the way. I expect – and hope – they will be right with us until late January when squads get stretched and by which time or , at best if we’re realistic, shortly after we will be out of the CL and able to concentrate on the league.
4. I only saw some of the Rangers game. They are awful and Aberdeen should , if they play as they did against us, give them a hiding.
Reo might be better taking a step back from international team,as clearly the manager doesn’t rate him,pointless travelling half way round the world to sit on a bench
The Killie left back was 24 year old Corrie Ndaba who is Irish.
He can also play centre back too.
Agree Killie LB looked good yesterday, comfortable with the ball
More rubbish loggies
Bada Bing
Agree ref MacCowan and Bernardo but not sure if it was just Aberdeen were knackered toward the end.
!!BADA BING!! on 21ST OCTOBER 2024 4:27 PM
Reo might be better taking a step back from international team, as clearly the manager doesn’t rate him, pointless travelling half way round the world to sit on a bench
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Alex Gordon posted much the same thing a week, or, so back on these pages. It does make sense of course from a Celtic point of view, however the Japanese are a very patriotic nation and I doubt if any of their players would snub a call-up from the national team. It may reflect back on their families at home and could be detrimental if they go back to finish their playing careers, or, of course when they retire.
According to a Statsta survey conducted 2020 in Japan, more than 52% of respondents felt a strong love for their country and less than 10% had negative views. The most popular reasons given to be proud of their country were good security, Japan’s beautiful natural environment and its long history and tradition.
Be surprised if Reo made a decision to turn down a call-up. He could retire from international football, however he is still quite young and of course a new manager might come along soon.
what is the issue with CCV , a sore big toe?
King Lugo,
Maybe you should not be telling me who should play and not play.We have a large pool with 4 wingers.BR is not rotating,apart from injuries.Maeda and Hatate should not have started,IMHO.Far too much travelling.Maeda,is an enigma,all the time.Good or poor.Not a player who should never be left out.
If that had been Palma who had that stinker,or made that pass,would have been getting pelters on here.
Maeda plays every game whether the opposition suits or not.Normally poor against a low block.I am not against Maeda,as I have said he has improved this season,although he infuriates me more than anyone else,he can be a match winner.So can Jamesy or Palma,if given the chance.
Sitting in The Hidden Pub in Florence and plastered all over the door are BADA BING stickers. What’s going on my mhan?
Ave Ave
Trusty doesn’t seem to be filling many of us with confidence that he is a 6 million dollar man.
As I recall, he was signed by Arsenal and loaned to Birmingham City where he was their player of the season in 2022-2023. He then played 33 times for Sheffield in the Premier last season. He should be a standout in the SPFL. I guess we will not know until he gets to partner CCV while playing on his favoured side. Hope he gets that chance soon.
Hatate played very well on Saturday- I voted for him in Jobo’s POTY competition and he finished in 2nd place, behind Scales, in the votes of 60+ people who watched the Aberdeen match.
Maeda, on the other hand, had a (rare) poor match.
The only conclusion to be safely drawn is that travelling to and from Japan on International duty does not harm your performance but playing for Japan, on top of the travel, does.😀
In the overall POTY competition, Hatate & Maeda are in joint 4th place behind Kuhn, Scales and Mcgregor and only 4 pts from being voted our best player so far this season.
I think we have other players whose form we can worry about before we dissect Reo and Daizen’s contribution.
Trusty, Ralston, Welsh & Nawrocki have yet to garner a single point.
Who would win in a fight between Bada Bing and Bada Boom?
“Phiilippe Clement, the latest saviour-turned-charlatan’s best hope of survival is that there is literally no executive directors in charge of the club capable of making a material decision”
That one had me laughing out loud on the train Pablo.
Respect.
But the same applies to your last statement Paul.
WHO is going to decide that they live within their means?
GlassTwoThirdsFull @ 12:20 pm
Aberdeen sitting on an impressive 22 points from 8 games, but a goal difference of only +9 suggests a huge outperformance of points collected per GD which couldn’t be sustained over an entire season.
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Agree with this comment made by my taller sibling.
The above said …
No European football to exhaust them.
They could do a 2005/06 Hearts.
Champions League qualifiers at Pittodrie?
Hmm.
Flashback to Hearts in 2005/06 and us losing at Tynecastle 3-0 …. (we tried, we really tried, but we’re beaten by the better team on the day 😉) ….. was the difference between unseeded Hearts and seeded R1ngers finishing second and taking that other Champions League qualifier spot.
They didn’t make it of course, and we trousered all the Champions league dough in 2006/07.
Meanwhile over at the headquarters of the Stupid For Always …. the brogues were polished and the brogue polish was clearly sniffed copiously ….
… and assorted wee clubs who made it to cup finals only to lose to the League winners?
… we’re rewarded with slot UEFA
… while far more consistent teams finishing 4th or 5th in the top league were overlooked.
How would the brogues do at a spelling bee?
Coe …. E … fish …. ant
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_football_clubs_in_international_competitions
Some supporters baulk at the thought of signing KT because of his injury record, yet are happy with CCV who is a crock and has been for a couple of years.
Emerald Bee- enjoy and easy with the pyros…
When is KT out of contract?
From memory either 2025 or 2026?
Saint Stivs on 21st October 2024 1:44 pm
https://www.mediastorehouse.com/p/767/scottish-cup-final-hampden-park-celtic-2-v-21547483.jpg.webp
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Amazing picture SS but I need some help.
I THINK I’ve got Willie Maley, Jimmy Quinn and Johnny Crum?
Not sure on the other two.
“What’s going wrong for Gray and Hibs?”
So, booms the headline for a story promoted onto the main BBC Football page by online editors at Shortbread.
The accompanying picture is a close up of a Celtic player.
The ABSOLUTE definition of “Pain”
😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋
BYB – yep, spotted that this afternoon and laughed out loud.
TOSB and Dessybhoy…
The Killie LB Ndaba spent various periods of his career out on loan from his ex-parent club Ipswich.
The last time we got an LB from Killie – Greg T – it turned out surprisingly well.
Re Maik, he’s had a long time to turn BR into a fan of his; hasn’t happened yet obviously.
I know there is big Celtic support in Barga area. If anyone knows anyone who needs a lift up to Bergamo on Wednesday morning from that area we have a couple of spaces in the car leaving Lucca at around 8am and coming down back approx 7am Thursday.
https://uk.pinterest.com/pin/371265563007995346/
Celtic Legend Aaron Ramsey on SS Football
BACK TO BASICS – GLASS HALF FULL on 21ST OCTOBER 2024 9:24 PM
Saint Stivs on 21st October 2024 1:44 pm
Amazing picture SS but I need some help.
I THINK I’ve got Willie Maley, Jimmy Quinn and Johnny Crum?
Not sure on the other two.
*the guy holding the cup is Willie Buchan, the following is taken from the Celtic Wiki:
A brilliant inside forward Willie Buchan was tipped to be the next big thing in Scottish football when he was signed by Willie Maley for the Bhoys from Grange Rovers in January 1933. Willie Maley is said to have dashed by car to Grangemouth before Rangers could themselves do so to sign him up. We won that race!
Buchan made his debut in a 3-2 league defeat at Queen of the South on August 12th 1933. Capable of playing as a forward or in a deeper role, Buchan had great vision, drive and above all wonderful all round ability which quickly established him as a massive favourite with the Celtic support. His presence in a Celtic team could add thousands to the gate – even at reserve games. Willie Buchan was a class performer and one with an ability to score vital goals.
He was a key player for Celtic in the league winning season of 1935-36, Celtic’s first league title for ten years. He had a proud scoring record, but it was his support play which saw him create goals (‘assists’ as they call them now) for fellow players such as Jimmy Delaney and Jimmy McGrory who terrorised goals with their efforts.
He ran the show in the 1937 Scottish Cup final in front of a record 146,433 crowd as the Bhoys took on Aberdeen. Willie Buchan dictated play from the off and after playing a part in Celtic’s first goal he was on hand to score the winner. Seldom has a winning goal been scored by a more deserving candidate.
He was stated to be “A player ahead of his time“. A great accolade and should have been a possible bulwark on which the team could build around to become a constant force again.
Possibly his only low mark on the pitch was that he played in the club’s record defeat of 8-0 away against Motherwell, a match in which he had to go into goals after Joe Kennaway had to leave the field injured (Celtic were already 4-0 down by then).
Sadly for the Hoops support their hero was soon to move on after the Parkhead board agreed to sell Willie Buchan to Blackpool in 1937 for what was then a record sum involving a Scottish club of £10,000. The switch to Lancashire was a lucrative deal for the club but for Willie Buchan it was a move he had neither instigated or welcomed.
He had been summoned to The Bank – the Queen Street restaurant owned by Maley – where he was met not only by the Celtic boss but also his Blackpool counterpart. Willie recalled: “The way things were put to me it seemed I had no choice in the matter. It was a great disappointment as I was enjoying playing for Celtic.”
Notably, on the onset of war he returned to Glasgow in 1939-40 in hope that he could entice Celtic to take him on, he would play once more for the Bhoys as a ‘guest’ but sadly the club wasn’t interested in a more long term arrangement, and after a spell with Stenhousemuir he would return to England to become a PT instructor for the RAF. It was a pathetic waste, and it wasn’t necessarily personal against Willie Buchan as the board said no to many others. Whatever the thinking was of the then board, the truth is that they squandered many great opportunities, few greater than re-signing Willie Buchan. This poor management cost Celtic dear for a long time to come.
Willie Buchan’s time at Parkhead was relatively brief but his impact was huge.
The same year that Willie Buchan left, McGrory also left. Malky MacDonald filled in well for Willie Buchan, but in truth the loss of Willie Buchan did still mark the end of a good long era. Granted Celtic had already begun a slow decline early in the 1930s (which was to accelerate fast in the war years) but the loss of those two key players and favourites really marked the beginning of the end of a glorious chapter, especially after the league title win of 1937-38 and Exhibition Cup victory.
During the war, Willie Buchan carried on playing football when he could by being a ‘guest’ player for clubs when possible (such as for Man Utd), as was the norm in those difficult days. Kept them fit and picked up morale of the local supporters.
After Blackpool, Willie Buchan moved on to Hull City and then Gateshead before managing Coleraine and ending his football career at East Stirling.
He passed away on 6 July 2003. He remains a much loved Celt.
Test from Milano.
Burnley 78
I’ve been in Milan since Saturday.
We are travelling to Bergamo on the 12.05 train on Tuesday .
If you here of ant spare tickets, for any part of the stadium, please give me a shout .
TT
Hear not here.
TT
Tontine Tim – cheers.
Short video on Atalanta’s tactics
https://youtu.be/aRw-W9-iqNs?si=L8BgFFqKNTRnuDd3
HH
Hatate got subbed on Saturday because Aberdeen’s thoroughly astute and never boring manager and his 2nd half tactical switch made our entire midfield look like big £11 million project Engles ie: invisible.
These re-writers are planted to dumb you all down. And it seems to work!
The Kelly & White board assigned Celtic historian of note, Gerry McNee, to compile a history of Celtic book in 1978 as “some club voices will have lapsed into silence by the time 1988 came around.” said Chairman, Desmond White.
Celtic Chairman, Desmond White, got his good book from Gerry McNee, but DW died in 1985. It could strongly be argued that the “Taylor Report” 1989 might not have been brought into effecet as DW and Celtic FC’s [ then ] great friends at Manchester United and Liverpool, would have garnered a powerful resistance to Thatcher’s Corporate back door invasion of the game of football.
No club could have put up a better counter argument and robustly pointed out the Thatcherite use of a “inside” job tragedy at Hillsborough in 1989, better than a Desmond White led Celtic FC, to publicly demonstrate Thatcher and her Governments bare faced deception to seat football stadia, to get corporate crooks into the back door of every football club.
Celtic FC haven’t had a shred of executive integrity since the death of Desmond White. In 1985.
Celtic were a proudly principled and integrity led club in those days were professional respect was paramount at ALL times.
So when Celtic leaning journo, Gerry McNee, accurately critiqued Billy McNeill’s side for blowing a 10 point lead to lose the league title to Aberdeen in 1980, proud man Billy McNeill, and rightly so, but, when a journo accurately criticises your management of the team, and your response is to assault said journo, then you no longer become fit to be Celtic manager.
And its rumoured that McNee pleaded to Desmond White to – NOT – sack Billy and DW agreed.
Apparently, White and the board marked Billy’s card after that loss of discipline bordering on Hunlike thuggery, and when in the next 3 years of Billy’s contract, we couldn’t overcome Aberdeen and Dundee Utd to be Champions, with the Huns under Greig absolutely nowhere, fans were getting restless.
In March 1983 vs Greig’s Huns at Parkhead in a midweek fixture, we drew 0-0 and the Huns were the better side. But, rumours about cliques of Billy’s pals, Dom Sullivan, and Wullie Gardner before him, BM’s pals from Aberdeen, well fans don’t like cliques – well we didn’t when we were real fans and not old firm saps – that was the case, but that awful 0-0 Hun draw were BM left Dom Sullivan [ invisible man ] on the pitch and instead subbed, Davie Provan, our best player that night, every Celtic fan in the stadium loudly booed this decision, and with yet more league failure looming, the White led board had little option but to show BM the door.
A desperate Celtic in 1987 under the useless liar, Jack McGinn, as Chairman, a great mistake was made, by bringing BM back as manager, and doing so whilst David Hay was still manager, was an indicator about the woeful loss of class that Celtic suffered after Desmond White’s death.
A real and serious club would have been on the phone to Dundee Utd, seeking talks with Jim MacLean who’d just led Dundee Utd to a European final, with less resources than what used to be thrown out of a wedding car window for kids to scramble over.
Then came the Centenary Double in 1988 as Gerry McNee said was down to – “Devine Intervention” – maybe he was correct when you look at the 9 years which followed!!!!?????
But, No Jim MacLean as Celtic manager meant it was for small parochial minded Celtic – 9 years of Hun hell were about to be endured.