Celtic cruise past relegation battlers

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Celtic didn’t need to get out of second gear to overcome Dunfermline yesterday, making it one of the most comfortable performances of the season.  After the festive season games against Rangers in the previous two seasons we played the team bottom of the league, Falkirk and Hamilton, both of whom were subsequently relegated, but we dropped points on each occasion.  Teams fighting for SPL survival are filled with players fighting for money to pay their mortgages, no result can be assured.

Dunfermline are everyone’s hot tip for relegation but they are still missing several players and having watched Hibs capitulation against Hearts yesterday I reckon nothing is clear cut yet.  Hibs are in trouble.

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  1. glendalystonsils on

    Now that STV have joined the coven, I wonder if there was a representative from STV (perhaps just out of shot) drinking some of that delusional potion from the MBB’s funny wee ceremonial chanty…………?

  2. rileyskeepingthefaith on

    nothtebus

     

     

    i would bet he was a nice guy till he joined the orcs and got there way of hate into his head hopefully he satys at them as hes not a player

     

     

    its good being 1 of the good ghuys

     

     

    HH

  3. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    glendalystonsils 1556

     

     

    Strange that no-one seemed too keen to sip from the same area that Whyte drank from…..

  4. Can’t say I know enough about Piquonne to have an opinion, but if John Carew is available I reckon that would be a good shout.

  5. Buddy Morrisey says:

     

    3 January, 2012 at 15:37

     

    ‘Dobson and Norris found guilty of the murder of Stephen Lawrence.’

     

     

     

    I can’t help seeing parallels between that case and the demise of the huns.

     

     

    How the once wealthy, all powerful, untouchable, corrupt and corrupting finally got their come uppance.

     

     

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/aug/06/politics.lawrence

  6. BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS says:

     

    3 January, 2012 at 15:47

     

     

    RTC doesn´t have a contact mentioned on his web site.

     

     

    If you have one forward it to Paul67 and if he would be so gracious and forward it on to me.

     

     

    Unless you can do so yourself ???

     

     

    HAil HAil

  7. glendalystonsils on

    Tontinetim

     

     

    The walls are crumbling at Murray park. How eerily symbolic!

     

     

    BWCUW

     

     

    Guess nobody wanted the bug-eyed fireballXL5 disease!

  8. Buddy Morrisey on

    Ernie

     

     

    No comparison!

     

     

    A young man was murdered by racist thugs – the other is a football club.

     

     

    Don’t look at life through football, it can cause you to see things erroneously.

  9. I have lifted this post from RTC, as the poster, for me, sums up my viewpoint.

     

     

    There are some Celtic supporters who would quite happily accept a Newco Hun, providing they received “suitable” punishment.

     

     

    This view, to me, completely ignores the position of that club, in any form, to the poisonous and dangerous society, particularly in the W. of Scotland.

     

     

    Nothing short of their complete demise would satisfy me.

     

     

    Unfortunately, that won’t happen.

     

     

    Anyway, please read on:-

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Damo Lennon says:

     

    03/01/2012 at 1:39 pm

     

     

    I don’t comment on this forum very much (hardly ever in fact) because I don’t have the financial expertise to add anything worthwhile to the stuff posted by RTC and some excellent contributors. But the good/bad for Scottish football thing is one thing I do want to comment on.

     

     

    Basically, I don’t give whatsit about Scottish football. Over the past twenty years or so, Scottish football has been run into the ground by Rangers and their unsustainable spending, and in the past three years, corruption has rendered Scottish football into a football version of the WWE, “sports entertainment.”

     

     

    It has become a Rangers Protection Racket, and at least two of the last three titles were handed on a plate to Rangers by Honest Mistakes (in the Mowbray season it was astonishing, and that was the worst of the three Celtic teams in that period), all to ensure they got the CL money they needed to stay alive because they had spent other peoples’ money like it was going out of fashion just to get it in the first place.

     

     

    So for me, Scottish football in its current state is simply not worth saving.

     

     

    I want Rangers (1872) gone. I want their history wiped out, and ideally, I want their newco in the Third Division. If that kills off Scottish football, then so be it. I’d rather we had no game, than a crooked game.

  10. Tricoloured Ribbon says:

     

    3 January, 2012 at 03:07

     

     

    They’ll be hopping about wae a leg and a half and the Catholics they’ll have two,oh right ye are,oh right ye are oh right ye are ma Bisley Fenian right ye are.

     

     

    *when I was a wee bhoy going tae St Mary’sidoon the Vale the upstairs of the bus, all academy huns, would be singing “hellohHello”

     

     

    Us downstairs would reply with “Hello Hello we are the Bisley Bhoys’. We had no idea who the Bisley were back then.

  11. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    AWE NAW 1612

     

     

    If you submit a post to him on his site,and use the word hun in it,it will be held for moderation and not visible to any but you and him.

     

     

    I also suggested he contacted PAUL67 for your e-mail address,hopefully I gave him the correct address for PAUL67,whitumalike?

     

     

    Best of intentions,but my Luddite nature sometimes comes to the fore….

     

     

    At the moment,he’s probably moving his own IP address around to stop you tracing him,haha!

  12. Buddy Morrisey says:

     

    3 January, 2012 at 16:18

     

    ‘Ernie

     

     

    No comparison!

     

     

    A young man was murdered by racist thugs – the other is a football club.’

     

     

     

    If you bothered to read the article in the link you might understand the point I was making.

  13. Saint Stivs says:

     

    3 January, 2012 at 03:10

     

     

    as much as i admire O’Higgins, way back in 1820-1840, my own Higgins family came to the Port around 1880 from Coalisland and before that Donegal somewhere.

     

     

    ref the irish navvies , i now live in Bishopton, next to what was described as the longest tunnel in the world back in 1860;s ? my back garden was a navvy camp.

     

    and evertime i dig something over i find pottery , clay pipes, and rusted nails.

     

    i have a near complete jar lid, a white intact pipe and some lumps of smelted stuff.

     

     

    these Irish were in scotland 20 years before my own family, and indeed started the build of their own church in bishopton.

     

     

    we are never far from our own history.

     

     

    keep it lit.

     

     

    *it was Irish navvies that blasted through the rock up in the Duntocher vicinity tae clear the way for the Great Western Road.

     

     

    After that they came doon tae Dumbarton tae blast the way under the current St Michael’s Chapel, the ould St Pat’s High and Notre Dame Convent for the train line fae Dalreoch tae Cardross.

     

     

    At that time Dumbarton was tangerine, the Tim part of the area was the Renton. There used tae be a pub called the Waverley at Dalreoch Station were the LOL congregated, after the Irish cleared that they were no more and the adjacent tenements became known as Dublin Brae. My father-in-law was born down there before moving up tae the People’s Republic of Brucehill.

     

     

    We will never forget them

  14. Tricoloured Ribbon on

    Tontine Tim,

     

     

    The Bisley was a great Celtic pub in Clydebank mate,long since gone.

     

     

    Yer from the Renton I take it?

  15. Tricoloured Ribbon says:

     

    3 January, 2012 at 16:29

     

    Tontine Tim,

     

     

    The Bisley was a great Celtic pub in Clydebank mate,long since gone.

     

     

    Yer from the Renton I take it?

     

     

    *naw actually fae the Vale but I have a great love for the Renton due tae the early Celtic connection there.

  16. rileyskeepingthefaith

     

     

    Imagine , if you can, you had the misfortune to be one of them.

     

     

    Financially and morally bankrupt, with the real threat of extinction in the coming months.

  17. Tricoloured Ribbon says:

     

     

    3 January, 2012 at 16:29

     

     

    Tontine Tim,

     

     

    The Bisley was a great Celtic pub in Clydebank mate,long since gone

     

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    It also had a rifle range in the cellar, hence the name Bisley

  18. Buddy Morrisey says:

     

    3 January, 2012 at 16:18

     

     

    The article isn’t about the murder per se, more one re the father of one of the convicted murderers.

  19. Tricoloured Ribbon on

    TT,

     

     

    Know the area well and still have a lot of friends down there and in Dumbarton.

     

     

    My da, god rest him,played a lot of juvenile football down there with Tontine Hibs and Renton Guild in the forties.

  20. tommytwiststommyturns Kano 1000 on

    Gordon_J : when does the American soccer season start again? You never know….! :-)

     

     

    T4

  21. TT

     

     

    Peoples Republic of Brucehill indeed.

     

     

    had a few nights out with Vale , Renton and Dumbarton peeps when i worked at Turnkey.

     

     

    magic magic they were.

  22. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo says:

     

     

    3 January, 2012 at 15:42

     

     

    Now that the wee tax bill has been paid we are unlikely to ever find out what Rangers told the SFA last April about its status to enable the SFA to grant a UEFA licence. The late appeal,as Phil suggests was just an obsfuscation device. However whilst we might never know the specifics everybody and their dug knows about the licensing process.

     

     

    There are a number of articles in the latest SFA Licensing Rules published by the SFA on 28th December surrounding unaudited accounts OR unaudited interim accounts OR audited accounts/audited interim accounts but with a qualification from the auditors re Rangers being a going concern that will be be more difficult to hurdle than the unpaid tax issue.

     

     

    Here is how I see the hurdles lining up

     

     

    Rangers could be refused a licence on any of the grounds under the following articles.

     

     

    A 47

     

    Audited Accounts and

     

    A 47

     

    Audited Accounts and Minimum Disclosures (If they have no audited accounts of any description ready by 8th April)

     

     

    A 48

     

    Reviewed Interim Financial Statements (the ones at A47 are the unaudited accounts currently overdue. The ones at A48 are those that will be required (audited) for licensing purposes in the coming round and so are dependent on getting the current full set audited and themselves (the interims) being audited by 8th April.

     

     

    A 50

     

    No Payables Overdue Towards Employees and Social/ Tax Authorities.

     

    This is the one that covers unpaid tax. The wee tax bill appears to have been paid so no problems for next licensing round on that one, however RTC seems pretty confident that VAT and NI due monthly has not been paid and is bankrolling the payroll. HMRC would do well to raise a bill before 31 March if the back tax on these items is still not paid by then. So the orginal wee tax bill might be replaced by a wee brother.

     

     

    The big EBT bill might not crystallise until after the 31 March when the FTT gives its ruling, so it is likely to be viewed as exempt from being treated as unpaid tax under Article 50 and so will not be a reason of itself to refuse a licence.

     

     

    If it crystallises before 31 March but Rangers appeal, the SFA still have the discretion under the A50 rules to ignore the appeal if they think it is only a procrastination device. This gives them leverage to get answers from Rangers.

     

     

    If it crystallises before 31 March it is unpaid on 1st April and A 50 needs to be negotiated.

     

     

     

    HOWEVER

     

     

    A 51 Written Representations Prior to the Licensing Decision

     

     

    requires that written representation be provided of information to the Licensing Committee on any events or conditions of major economic importance that have occurred and that may have an adverse impact on the licence applicant’s financial position since the balance sheet date of the preceding audited annual financial statements or reviewed interim financial statements (if applicable )

     

     

    AND

     

     

    A 52 Future Financial Information

     

     

    Refers to information in respect of the financial performance and position of the club in the reporting periods ending in the years following commencement of the UEFA club competitions, i.e in this case up to the end of season 2012/13.

     

     

    The last two are to protect UEFA from a club going belly up in the middle of a CL or EL tournament next season and the UEFA by now are very much aware of Rangers situation and what a risk they represent.

     

     

    On top of all that qualified audited accounts that might express “going concern” reservations either bring in other UEFA hurdles or make it very difficult to pretend there is no problem under the Articles quoted. The term gets 14 mentions in the UEFA FFP rules that the latest SFA ones incorporate.

     

     

    I do not fancy Rangers chances of getting a licence for any UEFA competition in the circumstances they find themselves. I’m not even sure the have the administrative dexterity/experience to even supply or adhere to the rules which the SFA will have to apply with rigour to satisfy UEFA.

     

     

    That degree of rigour on the part of the licensor or licensee has never been the case before.

  23. think we’ll get a couple of good quality players i.e. centre back, centre forward this january, but we’ll be linked with lots before we get our men.

     

     

    we have two weeks before next league game so there’s a chance we could get at least one in before then, excluding lustig.

     

     

    buying in this transfer window can set us up, excluding, outgoing out of contract squad players, players sold and incoming youth players.

  24. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    Stephbhoy We already have K.Wilson,Loovens,Mulgrew,Rogne, Lustig,big Dan and Victor who can all play centre back 7 players dp we really need another one ?H.H.

  25. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!! Tick Tock !! on

    Auld Heid….good man…your usual very interesting post

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