Celtic curiously stretched in central defence

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Neil Lennon has been fluid with his team formations in recent weeks.  As a result, three central defenders, Efe Ambrose, Kelvin Wilson and Charlie Mulgew could each be regarded as first choice picks, although Ambrose and Mulgrew have also been deployed in midfield.  Ambrose has featured in all nine games since the beginning of December, while Wilson has featured in eight and Mulgrew in seven.

Add to the picture the fact that fourth-choice central defender, Thomas Rogne, has appeared in eight of those nine games, missing only the replay against Arbroath, and our central defenders look curiously stretched.  Much has been made of the proximity of Efe Ambrose potential involvement in the African Cup of Nations to Celtic’s Champions League tie with Juventus, but the numbers suggest a vacancy exists beyond this tie, hence the recruitment of Rami Gershon, who will join on a six month trial, pending a work permit, with a permanent transfer agreed in principle, pending performance between now and May.

Gershon, 24, has kicked around Standard Liege for three years without making a discernible impact, but he is an experienced international who fits the profile of a non-critical recruit, competing as fourth of fifth choice central defender.  His six-month objective will be to secure Thomas Rogne’s place in next season’s squad.  The try-before-you-buy strategy we discussed earlier this week will ensure Neil Lennon has a player keen to impress whenever he gets an opportunity. Sound squad management.

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  1. philvisreturns on

    79caps – For decades Irish people had to emigrate. There was no euro then.

     

     

    Ireland thought it had put all that in the past and could look forward to prosperity and normality. The very reason young Irish people are being forced to leave their country in 2013 in search of work is that the Euro has plunged them into poverty.

     

     

    And it seems you excuse that. Shame on you.

     

     

    You fail to answer the question about the pound – euro exchange rate since 1999.

     

     

    You don’t understand what exchange rates are for, do you?

     

     

    At least be consistent and say that the pound is “doomed” too.

     

     

    The pound has been around for centuries, it has outlasted all the other attempts at European currency unions. If any bookie would take my money, I’d put a few pounds on sterling outlasting the Euro. (thumbsup)

  2. philvisreturns on

    16 roads – Neil Lennon walks on water. – philvisreturns – How could it possibly get any worse than what it is now for the poor people that exist in Glasgow’s urban wastelands?

     

     

    The poor people that live in the crappy parts of Glasgow are rich by global standards.

     

     

    It could get a lot worse for them. (thumbsup)

  3. 16 Roads @ 12:47

     

     

    You draw attention to an interesting dilemma.

     

     

    Me? With all its faults and failings, I still prefer the idea of living in a UK with a devolved assembly for Scotland.

     

     

    For all its blatant faults and failings, I simply prefer the British model to what I perceive to be the Scottish model (such as can be discerned from the current political miasma).

     

     

    I can say, however, that I don’t fancy having a political ruling class which more resembles the board room of a golf club, bowling club, parish council or even town council, such is the calibre of the vast majority of present day Scottish politicians.

     

     

    FF

  4. 16 roads – Neil Lennon walks on water.

     

     

    12:47 on 8 January, 2013

     

     

     

     

    ‘How good would it be to have a Scottish passport in your hand,as opposed to one of those British subject ones?’

     

     

     

    What an utterly ridiculous idea.

     

     

    What difference would it make?

     

     

    Seriously.

  5. When we signed efe .. No one had heard of him and he was identified as a centre half but has filled a midfield position often.

     

    Big rami ( the left back ) could therefore be the big target man we need up front

  6. philvis @ 12.57

     

     

    Since you prefer to insult rather than answer a question, I won’t bother debating with you again.

  7. philvisreturns

     

     

    12:43 on 8 January, 2013

     

     

     

     

     

     

    ‘you still believe in Marxism, you’ll believe in anything I suppose.’

     

     

     

    Marxism analysis of the economic crisis is more credible than any alternatives I’ve seen.

  8. philvisreturns on

    The Battered Bunnet – Sorry to interupt your wee exegesis on the recent Irish economic experience, but it would be a little ill-advised to consider the matter without reference to the corruption and incompetence of those who ran the Irish Government over the past 3 decades.

     

     

    When you have your own currency, markets can take this sort of thing into account. It’s why nobody would lend to the Greeks or the Italians on the same basis as they would the Germans or the Dutch, before the Euro came along.

     

     

    If Ireland had kept the punt she wouldn’t have gone through anything like the crazy boom of the 2000’s, and she wouldn’t be enduring such a horrible slump now either. There may even be a few punts left in the kitty for politicians to steal. (thumbsup)

  9. tommytwiststommyturns on

    P67 – going by how comfortable he looked in the pre-season friendly against Inter, then we have another CB in Lustig.

     

     

    Not forgetting Big Vic too….or is he for the off?! ;-)

     

     

    T4

  10. Jinky Bhoy

     

     

    At a meet n greet with Lenny.

     

    Lenny stated Efe was a midfielder and that was where he saw him playing in the future.

     

    That he was a decent cover for the central defensive area.

     

     

    A67

  11. An article about Centrebacks and not one mention of Victor Wanyama?

     

     

    I still think Victor will be away before the end of the month.

  12. I listened to Clyde news this morning at 08:00.

     

    It was reported that trouble had broke out for the fifth night running over the “fly the flag” issue.

     

    It was reported as “trouble broke out by the nationalists after a peacefull demonstration by loyalist protestors.”

     

     

    I have since read other versions of the same report from the Guardian, the BBC and even the Daily Record, none reported in the same way.

     

    I have no Irish connections, I have lived and still do live in the West of Scotland.

     

    Why is this news for a local radio station in a different country?

     

    Why is it reported differently from all other sources?

     

    Why was it reported in the way it was?

  13. The Battered Bunnet on

    Celtic Defenders?

     

     

    Scottish Independence?

     

     

    Hate Crime?

     

     

    European Economics?

     

     

    Does no one here know that David Bowie has today released his first new song since 2006?

     

     

    Good Lord! Get with the beat people.

  14. 16 roads - Neil Lennon walks on water. on

    philvisreturns – You could well be correct,if you comparing conditions to the likes of sub-Sahara African,in times of drought.

     

     

    I honestly do not see how it could possibly get any worse for them,if you are speaking in terms of life expectancy,mortality rates,suicide,drug and substance abuse blah,blah,blah.

     

     

    Do you mean a possible reduction of any welfare benefits that the said people may be in receipt of?

     

     

    Scotland produces more oil than Kuwait.

     

     

    There is no excuse for those levels of poverty and deprivation in what should be an affluent.

     

     

    It is a pity that the poor have become so disenfranchised.They may well have taken a wee chance,because they have nothing left to lose.

  15. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    philvis utopia is third world conditions for anyone who cannot support themselves

     

    The weak will perish, its the law of the jungle, but when a pack of hyenas come and take his kill he’ll be squealing for the communist police force to rescue him and his kill.

     

    Funny how communism cant work but the only truely communist organisations in the country, the police and armed forces are the two closest his heart eh

  16. Ernie

     

     

    I wouldn’t like to gamble swapping the standard of life that I and my family have earned in our capitalist society for a Marxist one.

     

     

    A67

  17. philvisreturns on

    ernie lynch – Marxism analysis of the economic crisis is more credible than any alternatives I’ve seen.

     

     

    That’s what I love about you Ernie.

     

     

    Someone hidebound by conventional rationality might point to the widespread poverty, famine, misery, oppression and mass murder that tends to accompany Marxism applied in practice. Our theoretical empiricist might come to realise these awful abuses of human beings are not a bug or defect or corruption of Marxism, but a feature, an inevitable outcome of it, for it is a philosophy which runs so counter to human nature it can only be sustained through tyranny.

     

     

    You, however, think they have some valid points about bankers. (thumbsup)

     

     

    79caps – Good luck with your flounce. (thumbsup)

  18. So Rugby Park is valued at double of what Duff&Duffer valued ibrox and Murray Park?

     

     

    BDO need to get a grip of that mob…

     

     

    Kilmarnock made a trading profit of £11,384 for the year ended 31 May 2012, down £186,597 from the previous year. In the present state of Scottish football, any surplus reflects credit on the club concerned.

     

     

    Kilmarnock’s net debt rose by £83,000 to £9.84m. This is less than the value of Rugby Park at £11.3m. Turnover went up by £300,000 to £7.4m. Player and staff costs were just over £3.5m, a figure that has been stable for four years. This is less than 50 per cent of turnover, a recommended target that few clubs achieve

  19. philvisreturns on

    canamalar – philvis utopia is third world conditions for anyone who cannot support themselves

     

    The weak will perish, its the law of the jungle, but when a pack of hyenas come and take his kill he’ll be squealing for the communist police force to rescue him and his kill.

     

    Funny how communism cant work but the only truely communist organisations in the country, the police and armed forces are the two closest his heart eh

     

     

    If capitalism worked as you describe it, you wouldn’t have the leisure time or the spending power to afford a computer and internet connection. You’d be too busy starving in some hovel or toiling in a ditch. (thumbsup)

  20. Mountain_Bhoy is Neil Lennon on

    dear me, these unionist posters must be at the windup… thatcher, major, blair, brown cameron… ah… those upstanding first class leaders for Scotland and her people!

     

     

    irony is 3 of those leaders mentioned above are actually Scottish! :)

     

     

    Fear tactics are all the unionists have got left, they are terrified..

     

     

    I’ll bet Ireland wishes she had Scotlands oil, and i’ll bet Norway wishes she had Scotch Whisky (£25billion revenue worldwide, time to regulate it properly and get much larger slice of the pie). what an amazing resource rich country wee Scotland is, many much larger countries would bite their hands off to have such resources..

  21. Efe Ambrose..?

     

     

    A Poor-Man’s Vidar Riseth….

     

     

    Our Magnificent Norwegian….

     

     

    Who Captained His Rosenborg Team..

     

     

    And Scored…

     

     

    In Their Memorable 3-1 Win Over Barcelona…

     

     

    In The Champions League Group Section

     

     

    Discarded By MO’N….

     

     

    Much Too Early …

     

     

    On A Whim….

     

     

    Always A 9/10 Player….

     

     

    In Any Game For The Hoops…

     

     

    Despite Being Moved From Pillar To Post

     

     

     

    To Accommodate Less Commited Team-mates…

     

     

    Right…

  22. 16 roads - Neil Lennon walks on water. on

    Folly Folly – I understand what you are saying,most politicians are crooks anyway.

     

     

    ernie lynch – Holding a Scottish passport world mean that you are a citizen,with a British passport,you are a mere subject.

     

     

    If you can’t see the difference yourself,then it is pointless me trying to explain it to you.

  23. The problem isn’t the resources, Mountain_Bhoy, it’s who controls them.

     

     

    Instead of Thatcher, Major, Blair, Brown or Cameron:

     

    Wee Eck? Henry McLeish? Jack McConnell? Even Donald Dewar?

     

     

     

    Thanks, but no thanks …

     

     

    FF

  24. tomtheleedstim on

    Philvis- there are many reasons for the plight that Ireland now finds itself in but the Euro is only one of them. Much of the inward investment during the boom was from the States from companies happy to experience extremely low corporation tax rates. As soon as the financial climate changed those American companies were off like a robber’s dog adding to the unemployment. The corruption within the Irish political and banking scene also meant that they were happy to keep lending to the ordinary Irish punter who, never having experienced a boom, didn’t know that bust was inevitably coming along soon.

     

    However, the conditions attached to the euro bail out will definitely hog tie Ireland’s recovery for many years to come. Ireland and other smaller European countries have certainly been sacrificed on the euro alter…. Germany can’t be allowed to suffer in any way.

     

    As you know, Germany is Mr Burns.

  25. philvisreturns

     

    12:43 on

     

    8 January, 2013

     

     

    In 1955 the vote in Scotland was 50-50 Labour/Tory

     

     

    In the early 70’s the SNP in my area (Clydeside) Judith Hart was challanged by businessman Tom McAlpine SNP.

     

     

    He used flute bands and touted shamelessly for the ‘blue/orange vote.

     

     

    He had a steelworks (I think it was steel) in the Kinning Park area. I went to one of his meetings (i was a mid teenager) and challenged him on his ‘no-union representation’ at his company when he was trying to sell himself as a socialst sympathiser. I was ushered from the meeting.

     

     

    philvisreturns – I despise your politics, your chums have put the country in the mess it is in. Indeed, it took Brown and Darling to save the Capitalists, hows that for irony? However, my dream is less borders, not more.

  26. Mountain_Bhoy is Neil Lennon on

    FF, WE would control the resources through the correct implementation of democracy, not that nonsense we have just now in westminster

  27. South Of Tunis on

    Tuneless and Clueless .

     

     

    Trolling /preaching fear fueled hate from the safety of the Rubber Room .Must be a real bore of a chore to have to constantly monitor your underwear for skid marks.

  28. Mountain_Bhoy

     

     

    Great point about whisky, a sustainable luxury product.

     

     

    This helps answers the question raised earlier on CQN as to why Westminster wants to keep Scotland tied in.

     

     

    It’s true that a lot of distilleries are owned by international and multinational companies, but no problem. They work with changing government regulations all the time. Scotland can present them with a fair tax regime to make sure Scotland gets a fair share of the value of its main export product. If they want tax breaks, they can negotiate them, based on job-creation and other mechanisms for wealth-sharing.

     

     

    It’s not as if they can up sticks and make the same product in Guangdong.

  29. philvisreturns on

    16 roads – Neil Lennon walks on water. – I honestly do not see how it could possibly get any worse for them,if you are speaking in terms of life expectancy,mortality rates,suicide,drug and substance abuse blah,blah,blah

     

     

    That’s a very parochial view. Life is vastly worse for billions of other people on the planet, not just in Africa. The poor in Glasgow are rich by global standards, so it could indeed be worse for them.

     

     

    Indeed many of their health problems are problems of plenty, not scarcity. People don’t starve to death or die of dehydration or from drinking dirty water in Glasgow. They are more likely to die of overeating, drinking too much, drug abuse, fighting etc.

     

     

    Scotland produces more oil than Kuwait.

     

     

    Nope. Kuwait produces roughly 3m barrels per day. The North Sea produces 1.8m per day.

     

     

    I see what your point is though. You think these resources can be seized and redistributed so as to make the poor richer. However, the major cause of poverty is not inadequate benefits, it’s the welfare system itself that traps generations of people into reliance on the state. Spending more money on benefits will only create more poverty, because it increases the incentive to live on benefits and correspondingly makes working less attractive.

     

     

    Work is the only reliable route out of poverty. Laborare est Orare and all that.

     

     

    There is no excuse for those levels of poverty and deprivation in what should be an affluent.

     

     

    It is affluent by global standards and by historical standards. You’d rather be poor in Glasgow than middle class in most of Africa, Asia, or South America. You’d rather be poor in Glasgow today than middle class in Glasgow 100 years ago.

     

     

    Our poor are likely to have designer trainers, mobile phones, and Sky TV. They also have free education and free healthcare. Glasgow is not some Dickensian wasteland. (thumbsup)

  30. philvisreturns on

    Celtic_First – It’s not as if they can up sticks and make the same product in Guangdong.

     

     

    No, but they can easily move their headquarters to Luxembourg or the Isle of Man and pay all their corporation tax via their foreign head office. And there’s nothing an “independent” Scotland could do about it – EU law. (thumbsup)

  31. philvisreturns on

    Bawsman – philvisreturns – I despise your politics, your chums have put the country in the mess it is in. Indeed, it took Brown and Darling to save the Capitalists, hows that for irony? However, my dream is less borders, not more.

     

     

    Son, I’m going to say this to you only one time: if you want to keep working here, stay off the drugs. (thumbsup)

  32. Buffalo Bills Bhoy on

    Can someone explain this new proposed 12-12-18 setup? I get that they play 22 games and then split with top 8 in one “league”, bottom 4 of first and top 4 of second playing in a second “league” etc.

     

     

    However how does this actually work. Say Celtic have a 10 point cushion after the 22 games. Do they start on +10 when the split happens? Or does it go to zero (in which case injuries or a few poor games could spell unfair loss of the league).

     

     

    Also, how would it work with the bottom 4 / top 4 combination? Do they all start on zero? Otherwise it would be a nightmare since the teams will have played against different competition with different point and goal difference totals.

     

     

    What a mess – only in this stupid wee country (and Austria / Switzerland although they wised up apparently?!)

  33. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    philvis,

     

    sorry I’m not living up to your expectations

     

    I feel sorry for people who are not as fortunate as me and I think it will take more than charity to help them.

     

    Did you no run away from big bad bhoys who hammered all your stats the other day (thumbsup:o)

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