Celtic will face their first Champions League qualifying opponents on either 31 July or 1 August but heartbeats among the scouting staff will quicken tonight and tomorrow when every potential opponent will play in the second qualifying round.
A number of potential opponents from eastern and northern Europe are mid-season but all will benefit from successfully coming through two qualifying games before tackling seeded opponents two weeks from now.
It is crucially important that Celtic are ready for this tie.
The final qualifying round, scheduled to take place during the last two weeks in August, will offer a greater challenge on paper but European qualifying games in July are notorious for catching better teams unprepared.
After a credibly, though ultimately unsuccessful, Europa League group campaign last season Celtic’s domestic form clicked into place and we looked like a team capable of becoming champions. There was some regret that we didn’t hit form early enough to make the most of our European adventure. Neil Lennon will also be keen to avoid the anaemic performance against Sion, who beat Celtic on aggregate but were subsequently awarded two 3-0 defeats for failing to observe rules.
These Celtic players found hidden depths last season but they have a point to prove in Europe. There is also the nagging suspicion that this Celtic team is more talented that the two Gordon Strachan took to the later stages of the Champions League.
Bring it on.
Get your season ticket and saddle up for the ride.
940 Comments- Pages:
- «
- 1
- 2
- 3
- 4
- 5
- 6
- 7
- ...
- 25
- »
that article –
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Global/Issues/2012/07/16/International-Football/CL-payout.aspx
Paul67 etal.
These Celtic players found hidden depths last season but they have a point to prove in Europe. There is also the nagging suspicion that this Celtic team is more talented that the two Gordon Strachan took to the later stages of the Champions League.
Gordon Strachan managed to get a tune out of a so-so team.Let’s hope our present Manager can do likewise with a supposedly better set of players?.
Neil Lennon has stated if they dont have any signings going into the Norwich game he will play the CL game with what he has got. Which is not bad considering we have Izzy, Kayal and Commons back to full fitness.
Paul67 – There is also the nagging suspicion that this Celtic team is more talented that the two Gordon Strachan took to the later stages of the Champions League.
Call me a suspicious Aloysius, but I think you may be right Paul.
Team that beat AC Milan:
Boruc, Perrier Doumbe (Kennedy 79), Caldwell, McManus, Naylor, McGeady (Nakamura 85), Hartley, Donati, Jarosik (Killen 84), Scott Brown, McDonald.
Subs Not Used: Mark Brown, Riordan, Sno, O’Dea.
(thumbsup)
pintaguinness
I assume you think we need more than 2 players then if the current squad won’t be good enough to get past the first qualifying round?! Clubs and players are difficult to deal with and unfortunately many players will be hedging their bets to see who else comes in for them and whether we qualify for the CL. Signing up for a qualifier is not that appealing when they may have a potential offer from a club who are already there.
jimmci
According to eTims we asked Bocanegra and he knocked us back.
HH
Rfc(il) did not produce acceptable audited accounts for the last 4 years.
How then can sevco use rfc(il) past accounts to satisfy the 3 year accounts necessity?
Wtf???
Celtic also have a point to prove in the SPL – win it. The MSM are building us up to win the league by Xmas so that if we dont they’ll take great delight in throwing rotten eggs at us, that would also get the huns back on their side.
The Token Tim on 17 July, 2012 at 12:16 & traditionalist88 on 17 July, 2012 at 12:18
Go Riabh Maith Agat
Hail Hail.
To my simple mind, Sevco could only be Rangers if it paid Rangers’ debts, or at least attempted to. Its CVA proposal was laughed out of town and now no one is even asking what they intend to do about the money they owe, football and non-football. There is just an assumption that they will leave those bills unpaid.
They see themselves as Rangers, but without any of the less fancied appendages, such as sanctions from the facilitating SFA or, much worse in my opinion, legally owed taxes and other debts.
Shame on them.
The Token Tim on 17 July, 2012 at 12:16
11 years ago????, last time I was there to watch the bhoys was 30 years ago,
“When it’s Spring again , we’ll sing again , 2-1 in Amsterdam ” ah memories, chicnic and chicken george.
Acccording to the stupid huns this beats the recent SPL fixture lists for excitement and generating money. Aye Right!!!
Rangers would assume the fixtures of Stranraer who will be promoted to Division 2.
They look like this:
Sat Aug 11 A Peterhead
Sat Aug 18 H East Stirlingshire
Sat Aug 25 A Berwick Rangers
Sat Sep 01 H Elgin City
Sat Sep 15 A Annan Athletic
Sat Sep 22 H Montrose
Sat Oct 06 A Stirling Albion
Sat Oct 20 H Queen’s Park
Sat Oct 27 A Clyde
Sat Nov 10 H Peterhead
Sat Nov 17 A East Stirlingshire
Sat Nov 24 A Elgin City
Sat Dec 01 H Annan Athletic
Sat Dec 08 H Stirling Albion
Sat Dec 15 A Montrose
Wed Dec 26 H Clyde
Sat Dec 29 A Queen’s Park
Wed Jan 02 A Annan Athletic
Sat Jan 05 H Elgin City
Sat Jan 12 H Berwick Rangers
Sat Jan 19 A Peterhead
Sat Jan 26 H Montrose
Sat Feb 02 A Stirling Albion
Sat Feb 09 H Queen’s Park
Sat Feb 16 A Clyde
Sat Feb 23 A Berwick Rangers
Sat Mar 02 H East Stirlingshire
Sat Mar 09 H Annan Athletic
Sat Mar 16 A Elgin City
Sat Mar 23 H Stirling Albion
Sat Mar 30 A Montrose
Sat Apr 06 A Queen’s Park
Sat Apr 13 H Clyde
Sat Apr 20 H Peterhead
Sat Apr 27 A East Stirlingshire
Sat May 04 H Berwick Rangers
Should we successfully negotiate the 3rd qualifying round, am I right in thinking we cannot get drawn against ‘non-champions’ in the 4th round, thereby avoiding the likes of Udinese, Lille, Fenerbahce…? That would leave Dinamo Zagreb, Cluj, Zilina, P Belgrade and Helsingborgs (presuming they win their 3rd round ties)…..
lorbobo on 17 July, 2012 at 12:33 said:
”Rfc(il) did not produce acceptable audited accounts for the last 4 years.
How then can sevco use rfc(il) past accounts to satisfy the 3 year accounts necessity?”
The reason they didn’t produce accounts because they would have shown the club was insolvent.
And the SFA are saying that’s OK.
previous qualifiers;
2001-02 3Q W, V Ajax [groups]
2002-03 3Q L V Basel [UEFA]
2003-04 2Q W V Kaunas
3Q W V MTK [groups]
2004-05 groups
2005-06 2Q L V Artmedia
2006-07 groups
2007-08 3Q W V Spartak [groups]
2008-09 groups
2009-10 3Q W V Dynamo
‘play off round L V Arsenal [Europa]
2010-11 3Q L V Braga [Europa]
Which makes 9 qualifying ties, Hoops have won 5 and lost 4.
Published on Tuesday 17 July 2012 12:25
THE Scottish Football Association has released a statement clarifying its position on Rangers following the acceptance of Charle’s Green’s newco into the Third Division.
The release confirms:
• The SFA has the power to transfer the one-year transfer embargo imposed on the now liquidated Rangers to the newco
• The governing body has requested further information from Sevco, the company which now owns Rangers, to satisfy the SFA’s fit and proper person test
When will the Scottish FA consider Rangers application for membership?
Now that the Scottish Football League have made a conditional acceptance of Rangers FC in Irn Bru Division Three we will now consider the club’s application for membership transfer this week.
How can Rangers be considered for membership when they can’t provide four years’ financial statements?
Sevco Scotland Ltd bought Rangers Football Club PLC’s share in the SPL and membership of the Scottish FA as part of their acquisition of assets. Under Article 14.1, Sevco Scotland are requesting the transfer of the existing membership of Oldco. This is different to an application for a new membership, which generally requires four years of financial statements.
When will the Appellate Tribunal be reconvened?
The Scottish FA has been in dialogue with Rangers FC in respect of the outstanding disciplinary sanction. The decision of the Court of Session to set aside the 12-month registration embargo was complicated by Rangers FC’s administration and subsequent request from Sevco Scotland for a transfer of membership of the Scottish FA. Again, now that the club’s status has been confirmed by the SPL and SFL, we will consider the award of transfer once Rangers FC satisfy the necessary criteria.
Will Rangers’ original punishments be transferred to Newco?
The Scottish FA Board has the power to transfer membership under Article 14.1, which states:
“. . . Transfer of membership will be reviewed by the Board, which will have the complete discretion to reject or to grant such application on such terms and conditions as the Board may think fit.”
Will Ally McCoist be subject to a Compliance Officer Reference for his comments about the Judicial Panel?
The Compliance Officer communicated with Rangers FC in mid-June to confirm that the matter has been reported and will be initiated through the normal Judicial Panel Protocol upon conclusion of the other outstanding issues affecting the club.
In what round will Rangers Newco join the William Hill Scottish Cup?
Under the Scottish FA’s Cup Competition Rules, Rangers FC as a third division club will join the William Hill Scottish Cup at the second round.
Why have the Scottish FA blocked the transfer of Rangers players to other clubs?
The Scottish FA issued a guidance note, based on legal advice and without prejudice, to both Rangers FC and PFA Scotland. Certain players have now chosen not to transfer across under TUPE regulations and, instead, agreed contracts elsewhere.
On a procedural basis, the Scottish FA cannot process an International Transfer Certificate via FIFA’s Transfer Management System where there is an ongoing contractual dispute.
Rangers FC have confirmed that there is such a contractual dispute. In the meantime, the new club(s) can request a temporary transfer from FIFA in order that the player(s) is free to play while the dispute process unfolds. This process has commenced in relation to a number of the players in question.
At the request of one of the parties in dispute, the Scottish FA, through its Articles, can convene an Arbitration Panel, with either side selecting from a list of Panel members, with the two appointees subsequently selecting a Chair of the panel. Rangers FC have made such a request to the Scottish FA.
We would naturally seek an outcome as soon as possible.
Does the Scottish FA have a fit and proper person report for the new Rangers owner(s) and do we know who the main investors/directors are?
The Scottish FA has received private and confidential documentation from Sevco Scotland Ltd relating to the above. We have asked Sevco to provide further supplementary information and will consider that information this week.
Under new Scottish FA rules, it is a requirement of the outgoing club directors to conduct a full investigation under the Fit and Proper Guidelines. Given Rangers FC’s insolvency event, it has been incumbent on the administrators, Duff and Phelps, to carry out the necessary checks on the proposed new directors, as well as our own investigations.
What is the status of the investigation into use of Employee Benefit Trusts?
This is an investigation under the jurisdiction of the Scottish Premier League specific to player registrations. The SPL have recently confirmed they have prima facie evidence but as the potential appellate body, we cannot comment further at this stage.
Related Articles
Rangers administration: Craig Whyte damned by not fit and proper verdict
CRAIG Whyte has been branded “unfit” to run Rangers by the SFA, who have brought a wide-ranging disrepute charge against the Ibrox club for alleged breaches of their rules committed since their discredited owner took charge last May.
0 Comments
Rangers takeover: club set for further hearing as SFA accept court rule
THE SFA last night accepted the Court of Session’s ruling that the transfer embargo imposed on Rangers was unlawful and have referred the case back to their independent Appellate Tribunal to decide on an alternative punishment for the crisis-torn Ibrox club.
205 Comments
Timeline: Rangers’ slide towards liquidation
RANGERS face liquidation after Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs announced today that, as one of the club’s major creditors, they would be unwilling to accept a Company Voluntary Arrangement (CVA) deal on money owed to them by the Ibrox club.
3 Comments
Rangers newco: New divisions appear
THE Scottish Football League’s Board is facing a rebellion by member clubs after it was revealed that the board itself wants to make the final decision on whether Rangers should play in the First or Third Division next season.
465 Comments
‘Disgusted’ chairmen call for SFA chief Stewart Regan to stand down
SCOTTISH football’s top official, SFA chief executive Stewart Regan, was the subject of a proposed no-confidence vote at the meeting of the Scottish Football League on Friday.
So if the SFA were running HMRC I could fail to submit my tax return this year. I am subsequently fined but I need not return the form as I have already been fined!
Excellent, where do I sign?
RogueLeader on 17 July, 2012 at 12:48 said:
Have they even paid the fine ?
archdeaconsbench
That list look about right.
jimmci on 17 July, 2012 at 12:23 said:
bog – no thanks what we need, in my opinion, is a quality centreback who will act as one of a mainstay of 5 players over the next 4 or 5 years. so we need a quality CB aged about 28 years old whose only value is his ability. i think players will come and go but we need several players who are in the team year after year to allow our young players of potential to reach their potential before moving on if they so wish and if it suits celtic. if the core of the team is stable year on year we will have less fear going into European qualifiiers. we need a medium to long term view not a short term fix signing a 32/33 year old is the latter.
HH
last nights Sportsound with Neil Doncaster. Interesting listen.
He is on a shoogly peg with most answers, imho.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/scotfoot
today’s game…
17/07
Vfr Aalen v Celtic Glasgow
1800hrs
no broadcaster available so it’ll likely be
twitter updates from Laura
R.I.P. Bob Babbit…
The man who put the bass in the place at Motown…
who’d you fancy in The Open ?
ah’ve gone for Oosthuizen 45/1 and Jeev Milkha Singh 150/1
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/golf/open-championship?ev_oc_grp_ids=34304
Starry Plough – not James Jamerson?
Philbhoy, Pintaguinness:
Why sign more centre halves unless you can get one far better than anything we have??
Last season we had a platoon there.
Everyone has said Marcus Fraser looks a good one for the future, Rogne, imho, is our best centre back by some distance… if he actually stays fit which I will admit is a concern…
Then we have Charliebhoy who will only get better. Both are young in their position.
Kelvin Wilson will not be the answer but is still good enough back-up for a couple of games which is hopefully most he is needed in
In hindsight: I’d have kept O’Dea for the sheer point that we’ve already let 2 CB’s go, he isnt worse than anyone we’ve played there before and he will play for the club.
I dont even want to think of the prospect of Josh Thompson…but thats okay because BigVic can step in before that becomes even a possibility.
So 2 (or 3) CB Slots: Mulgrew, Rogne, Wilson, Vic, young Marcus.
That is more than enough, only reason to put more on the wage budget is genuine quality.
Now where does our Hero wee Craigy Whyte stand in all of this now?
I’m missing that wee ghuy ;)
When Glasgow Rangers officially liquidates the history ceases to carry on,no amount of jiggery pokery can change that.
Why was a hearse sent to Celtic Park? Which begs another question-
Had Celtic suffered liquidation would any new entity have been allowed to say they were the only European Cup winners in Scotland?
I think we all know the answers.
Sevco have bought a stadium,players and strips,have never played a game of football,the idea they can just ‘buy’ an old clubs history is completely childish given that at the same time they don’t recognise the old clubs debts.
The SFA and media in Scotland need to stop acting like supporters and grow up.
Dontbrattbakkinanger on 17 July, 2012 at 13:04 said:
Lesser known but equally as good member of the Funk Brothers..
“Although a lesser known name than the most celebrated Funk Brother, the late great James Jamerson, regarded by many as the best bassist of all, Babbitt is a true legend in his own right, appearing on a whole host of classic Motown tracks by artists including Marvin Gaye, The Temptations, Stevie Wonder, Diana Ross, Edwin Starr and Smokey Robinson & The Miracles.”
Lifted from Greg Wilson’s blog..
SoulCSC
The Legend Johnny Doyle – Now where does our Hero wee Craigy Whyte stand in all of this now?
Craig “Heisenberg” Whyte installed an industrial-sized magnet in a truck, is driving around HMRC offices hoping to wipe all their electronically stored evidence. (thumbsup)
On the comparison:
Boruc,
Perrier Doumbe (Kennedy 79), Caldwell, McManus, Naylor,
McGeady (Nakamura 85), Hartley, Donati, Jarosik (Killen 84),
Scott Brown,
McDonald.
Subs Not Used: Mark Brown, Riordan, Sno, O’Dea.
This year, assuming same formation:
Forster
Matthews, Rogne, Mulgrew, Izzy
Brown, Kayal, Vic, Ledley
Commons
Hooper
Subs: Zaluska, Lustig, KWilson, Forrest, Ki, Stokes, Sammi,
Just an example thats moderatly balanced, not saying our best 11.
I know who I’d rather go and watch.
Soooooo after all that has transpired over the last few months, I have a burning question….
Am I still paranoid or whit ?!?!!?!
i would be playing my best team NOW in preparation for the CL qualifiers
i would have given holidays to international stars later in the year
any development players can easily dip in and out of SPL games – forget that for the moment
play our best team now ! get them up to speed, sharpish
priority No1 is qualification for the CL groups
Bob Babbitt RIP
Funk Brother .
Played bass on 212 Top 40 singles.
Just played 3 tunes in his memory ——
Mr Postman —— The Marvelettes.
Mercy Mercy Me / Inner City Blues —- Marvin Gaye
Band of Gold —– Freda Payne.
Thanks for the pulse and the groove – Bob
Bob Babbitt -RIP
Gabriel,
agreed, Charle, Vic and big Rogne are all proven centre half, and I’d accept any combination of that three.
We’ll coast the qualifiers
COME ON YOU BHOYS IN GREEN
Let’s have a songs debate.
Personally, I feel that it’s time we moved on from anything by Gotye featuring Kimba. (thumbsup)
From RTC comments…
“Now, as I have stated previously, stalking someone is highly illegal in France and Monaco so I have absolutely no idea how someone can tell me that our hero CW boarded a plane this morning at 10.40 to Zurich (LX563). Maybe he has a business meeting there? Maybe it’s just a wild guess? ”
Isn’t Chuck”begging bowl” Green in Zurich today….small city Zurich!
philvis…,
BOTOB in or out
South Of Tunis on 17 July, 2012 at 13:27 said:
There’s a nice tribute on Greg Wilson’s blog..