Lazio were Celtic’s first Italian opponents when the clubs drew 0-0 in Rome in 1950 before a Celtic Park rematch a few months later when Celtic won 4-0. The next four occasions Celtic met Italian teams would all be played on neutral ground, starting with a draw against Bologna on a 1966 preseason tour of the United States, before a notable win against Inter in Lisbon at the end of that season.
Celtic then met Milan four times in 10 months starting in May 1968. It was back to the US for a 1-1 draw, before a rematch a month later in Toronto when goals from Bobby Lennox and Charlie Gallacher won the game. The teams then drew 0-0 in the San Siro before Milan won the return 0-1 at Celtic Park, the first time in eight games against Italian opposition Celtic emerged with a defeat.
Italian champions Fiorentina lost at Celtic Park in 1969 before winning the return game while a year later Celtic drew twice against Bari on a North American tour. Inter and Celtic then met in the 1972 European Cup semi-final, both games finishing goalless, before a nine year wait until the next game against Italian opponents and the first against Juventus. Celtic won at home and lost in Turin.
Three games in four days in July 1993 saw a win over US Carisolo and defeats against Atalanta and Napoli. Four years later Parma and Roma visited Celtic Park, with the home team achieving a draw and win. 2001 saw Celtic’s first Champions League group games and two memorable games against Juventus, losing controversially in Turin before recording a 4-3 win in Glasgow.
Parma lost at Celtic Park in 2002 with Roma beating Celtic in Toronto in 2004. Celtic then embarked on a familiarity drive with Milan, drawing twice at home and losing the corresponding away fixtures in 2004 and 2007. A home win over Parma in summer 2007 briefly interrupted Celtic’s run of Italian fixtures against Milan but the teams met another twice in 2007, Celtic winning at home and losing away.
Celtic lost to Inter in Dublin in 2011 before drawing home and away to Udinese in the same year. Kris Commons scored Celtic’s goal in their most recent match against Italian opponents in a Celtic Park draw last July.
36 games in 63 years, 11 wins, 11 defeats and 14 draws. The team in green and white won the most important one!
Early notice, the CQN Charity Golf Day will take place on Friday, 14 June. More details to follow.
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Does anybody know if the guy Andy from scotzine, broke the story that he was tweeting about regarding chuckles?
timbhoy2
17:32 on
10 February, 2013
listen im just making a point about the shocking ciatering facilities
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Your point is valid timbhoy its how you made it that has got folks back up, don’t let that stop ye though.
HH
Away back to sons of anarchy CSC
Would have been a nice piece of irony if we’d played Juve on Thursday!
50 hours to go…………
Congratulations to Manchester Utd on winning the 2012/13 EPL title.
ManUre…….horses for courses.
: > (
You ghuys lay off Timbhoy2 I am his nemesis,or so the eejit thinks.
Vmhan, you are correct re your post to timbhoy2 re the catering. I would love to see a Hotel/ Celtic Pub/ Restaurants built in proximity of Celtic Park. The Business mandarins of course would have to do their market research to ensure the viability of the project. We all tend to focus on match days but they would only account for about 25/28 days of the 365. Any development would have to generate a profit all year round.
I think the club would be taking a giant step forward if they brought in Carolyn Still as Chief Executive….would help increase SB sales???????
http://metro.co.uk/2013/02/10/mansfield-owner-john-radford-rewards-manager-paul-cox-with-aston-martin-3400703/
Nigeria game on ITV4 & Eurosport now
Eminike on bench for Nigeria if you having a bet…..
Cork Celt
What about a floating Casino?
Tongueincheekcsc
Corkcelt
Illustrious company indeed!
However, before you depart them, remember the old Glasgow adage……..
….spectacles, testicles, wallet and watch.
If you’ve still got them it’s been a good night!
:-)
oh i forgot its Panacake Tues nxt week,mmmmmmmmmmmm
A new TSFM blog up.
HH
jimbo67 and a retractable roof.
Dead and Loving it
I read in the comments section of Paul Macs latest article, that it will be tomorrow.
Bhoys
Regarding the restaurant for Tuesday, it is indeed an exclusive group….the criteria being you have to be a right good tim or a right good ghuy…
Table booked for 3pm on Ingram Street, anyone else who fancies it get my email from Paul67 and I’ll add you to the table.
There are cqners, lurkers, good ghuys and bevvy merchants…..some of you fit into all categories and I will bring a Venn diagram on the day…..Father Ian won’t make it but wishes us all the best…..
Oldtim67 has promised to bring a couple of bottles of port he has imported from Portugal, all I have to do is get the owners to consent….
Looking forward to another right good CL day and night….if its anything like the last one it will be special…..
Kikinthnakas
Looking for a bit of advice. Looking to book a holiday in June through Expedia, my passport expires in May and I need to get a new one before then, is there any problems I should be aware of that could invalidate the booking?
Thanks in advance.
HH
Martin 42
Very sorry to hear of Jimmy’s illness. That’s worrying. He’s only a young man.
Corkcelt
Obviously one of them. The Record might leak this as an exclusive. Like they did with another club so we better keep these discussions hush-hush
Jimbo
I cant wait for Tuesday, will be a cracking night.
Martin42.
Nice to see you post.
I’ll see you at Aberdour,Don’t know where I’ll stay yet,Ceder Inn wouldn’t serve us a drink when we got in from the golf that night,And I, with a few drinks in me, Told him in no uncertain terms that I won’t be back this year if there’s no bar open,I’ll give him a call and ask if there will be a bar after we come back from the Golf night.
They say we’re playing on a one team league.
Man U are now 12 points ahead in theirs.
Ironic huh!
Away to work. HH.
Martin 42
We are all fine, thanks for asking. Hope you make it down.
dry foam ;-)
Kikinthenakas.
Will you find out if there’s any chance of bringing a couple of bottles of Port,I don’t want to bring them if we can’t drink them on site.
Paul67:
I was present at Celtic Park on 16th September 1981 when Murdo scored in a 1-0 against Juventus in the old European Cup. Unfortunately we lost the second leg 2-0.
What a night I had in the Jungle.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
corkcelt
17:45 on
10 February, 2013
googybhoy, hopefully not, if Kojo turned up I think I’d crack up. Not sure who is going, I think Old Tim, Papa John, Blantyre Tim, kikinthenakas are amongst the luminaries,
I’ve never met any of them before, but am really looking forward to it.
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Have a great meal at the Blue Lagoon.
Oldtim67
I have to phone the manager tomorrow, will let you know then…..is malorbhoy coming at 4?
doctor whatfor,
My mother was not a football fan, but she wouldn’t hear of Celtic being dissed.
She was only at one other game, a Charity Cup Final v Thistle.
From TSFM
Everything Has Changed
by Big Pink
The recent revelations of a potential winding up order being served on Rangers Newco certainly does have a sense of “deja vu all over again” for the average reader of this blog.
It reminds me of an episode of the excellent Western series Alias Smith & Jones. The episode was called The Posse That Wouldn’t Quit. In the story, the eponymous anti-heroes were being tracked by a particularly dogged group of lawmen who they just couldn’t shake off – and they spent the entire episode trying to do just that. In a famous quote, Thaddeus Jones, worn out from running, says to Joshua Smith, “We’ve got to get out of this business!”
The SFM has been trying, since its inception to widen the scope and remit of the discussion and debate on the blog. Unsuccessfully. Like the posse that wouldn’t quit, Rangers are refusing to go away as a story. With the latest revelations, I too confided in my fellow mods that perhaps we too should get out of this business. I supsect that, even if we did, this story would doggedly trail our paths until it wears us all down.
The fact that the latest episode of the Rangers saga has sparked off debate on this blog may even confirm the notion subscribed to by Rangers fans that TSFM is obsessed with their club. However even they must agree that the situation with regard to Rangers would be of interest to anyone with a stake in Scottish Football; and that they themselves must be concerned that the pattern of events which started over a decade ago as the old club fell into decline on a trajectory which ended in liquidation.
But let me enter into a wee discussion which doesn’t merely trot out the notion of damage done to others or sins against the greater good, but which enters the realm of the damage done to one of the great institutions of world sport, Rangers themselves.
David Murray was regarded by Rangers fans as a hero. His bluster, hubris and (as some see it) arrogant contempt for his competitors afforded him a status as a champion of the cause as long as it was underpinned by on-field success.
The huge pot of goodwill he possessed was filled and topped-up a dripping tap of GIRUY-ness for many years beyond the loss of total ascendency that his spending (in pursuit of European success) had achieved, and only began to bottom out around the time the club was sold to Craig Whyte. In retrospect, it can be seen that the damage that was done to the club’s reputation by the Murray ethos (not so much a Rangers ethos as a Thatcherite one) and reckless financial practice is now well known.
Notwithstanding the massive blemish on its character due to its employment policies, the Rangers character portrayed a particularly Scottish, perhaps even Presbyterian stoicism. It was that of a conservative, establishment orientated, God-fearing and law-abiding institution that played by the rules. It was of a club that would pay its dues, applied thrift and honesty in its business dealings, and was first to congratulate rivals on successes (witness the quiet dignity of John Lawrence at the foot of the aircraft steps with an outstretched hand to Bob Kelly when Celtic returned from Lisbon).
If Murray had dug a hole for that Rangers, Craig Whyte set himself up to fill it in. No neo-bourgeois shirking of responsibilities and duty to the public for him; his signature was more pre-war ghetto, hiding behind the couch until the rent man moved along to the next door. Whyte just didn’t pay any bills and with-held money that was due to be passed along to the treasury to fund the ever more diminished public purse. Where Murray’s Rangers had been regarded by the establishment and others as merely distasteful, Whyte’s was now regarded as a circus act, and almost every day of his tenure brought more bizarre and ridiculous news which had Rangers fans cringing, the rest laughing up their sleeve, and Bill Struth birling in his grave.
The pattern was now developing in plain sight. Murray promised Rangers fans he would only sell to someone who could take the club on, but he sold it – for a pound – to a guy whose reputation did not survive the most cursory of inspection. Whyte protested that season tickets had not been sold in advance, that he used his own money to buy the club. Both complete fabrications. Yet until the very end of Whyte’s time with the club, he, like Murray still, was regarded as hero by a fan-base which badly wanted to believe that the approaching car-crash could be avoided.
Enter Charles Green. Having been bitten twice already, the fans’ first instincts were to be suspicious of his motives. Yet in one history’s greatest ironic turnarounds, he saw off the challenge of real Rangers-minded folk (like John Brown and Paul Murray) and their warnings, and by appealing to what many regard as the baser instincts of the fan-base became the third hero to emerge in the boardroom in as many years. The irony of course is that Green himself shouldn’t really pass any kind of Rangers sniff-test; personal, sporting, business or cultural; and yet there he is the spokesman for 140 years of the aspirations of a quarter of the country’s fans.
To be fair though, what else could Rangers fans do? Green had managed (and shame on the administration process and football authorities for this) to pick up the assets of the club for less (nett) than Craig Whyte and still maintain a presence in the major leagues.
If they hadn’t backed him only the certainty of doom lay before them. It was Green’s way or the highway in other words – and speaking of words, his sounded mighty fine. But do the real Rangers minded people really buy into it all?
First consider McCoist. I do not challenge his credentials as a Rangers minded man, and his compelling need to be an effective if often ineloquent spokesman for the fans. However, according to James Traynor (who was then acting as an unofficial PR advisor to the Rangers manager), McCoist was ready to walk in July (no pun intended) because he did not trust Green. The story was deliberately leaked, to undermine Green, by both Traynor and McCoist. McCoist also refused for a long period of time to endorse the uptake of season books by Rangers fans, even went as far as to say he couldn’t recommend it.
So what changed? Was it a Damascene conversion to the ways of Green, or was it the 250,000 shares in the new venture that he acquired. Nothing improper or unethical – but is it idealism? Is it fighting for the cause?
Now think Traynor. I realise that can be unpleasant, but bear with me.
Firstly, when he wrote that story on McCoist’s resignation, (and later backed it up on radio claiming he had spoken to Ally before printing the story), he was helping McCoist to twist Green’s arm a little. Now, and I’m guessing that Charles didn’t take this view when he saw the story in question, Green thinks that Traynor is a “media visionary”?
Traynor also very publicly, in a Daily Record leader, took the “New Club line” and was simultaneously contemptuous of Green.
What happened to change both their minds about each other? Could it have been (for Green) the PR success of having JT on board and close enough to control, and (for Traynor) an escape route for a man who had lost the battle with own internal social media demons?
Or, given both McCoist’s and Traynor’s past allegiance to David Murray, is it something else altogether?
Whatever it is, both Traynor and McCoist have started to sing from a totally different hymn sheet to Charles Green since the winding up order story became public. McCoist’s expert essay in equivocation at last Friday’s press conference would have had the Porter in Macbeth slamming down the portcullis (now there’s an irony). He carefully distanced himself from his chairman and ensured that his hands are clean. Traynor has been telling one story, “we have an agreement on the bill”, and Green another, “we are not paying it”.
And what of Walter Smith? At first, very anti-Charles Green, he even talked about Green’s “new club”. The a period of silence followed by his being co-opted to the board and a “same club” statement. Now in the face of the damaging WUP story, more silence. Hardly a stamp of approval on Green’s credentials is it?
Rangers fans would be right to be suspicious of any non-Rangers people extrapolating from this story to their own version of Armageddon, but shouldn’t they also reserve some of that scepticism for Green and Traynor (neither are Rangers men, and both with only a financial interest in the club) when they say “all is well” whilst the real Rangers man (McCoist) is only willing to say “as far as I have been told everything is well”
As a Celtic fan, it may be a fair charge to say that I don’t have Rangers best interests at heart, but I do not wish for their extinction, nor do I believe that one should ignore a quarter of the potential audience for our national game. Never thought I’d hear myself say this, but apart from one (admittedly mightily significant) character defect, I can look at the Rangers of Struth and Simon, Gillick and Morton, Henderson and Baxter, and Waddell and Lawrence (and God help me even Jock Wallace) with fondness and a degree of nostalgia.
I suspect most Rangers fans are deeply unhappy about how profoundly their club has changed. To be fair, my own club no longer enchants me in the manner of old. As sport has undergone globalisation, everything has changed. Our relationship to our clubs has altered, the business models have shifted, and the aspirations of clubs is different from that of a generation ago. It has turned most football clubs into different propositions from the institutions people of my generation grew up supporting, but Rangers are virtually unrecognisable.
The challenge right now for Rangers fans is this. How much more damage will be done to the club’s legacy before this saga comes to an end?
And by then will it be too late to do anything about it?
Most people on this blog know my views about the name of Green’s club. I really don’t give a damn because for me it is not important. I do know, like Craig Whyte said, that in the fullness of time there will be a team called Rangers, playing football in a blue strip at Ibrox, and in the top division in the country.
I understand that this may be controversial to many of our contributors, but I hope that this incarnation of Rangers is closer to that of Lawrence and Simon than to Murray and Souness.
Big Pink | Sunday, February 10, 2013 at 17:42 | Categories: General |
leftclicktic
18:08 on
10 February, 2013
Thanks Mate.
Some old timer remind me.
What were often eaten but never beaten?
Palacio-Passport mob are very fussy,any wee mistakes they send the application back.Make sure when signing your name,not to go ouside the box or they return it.
Good luck to our Efe. Game just kicked off.
Spaniard Alberto Undiano Mallenco will referee the Champions League match between Celtic and Juventus.
Article from 2011
The official has made the headlines for
his contentious decisions in the past,
not least when he sent off Miroslav
Klose at the 2010 World Cup.
The official courted controversy by failing
to award the Blues a penalty towards the
end of United’s 1-0 win, as first Ramires
went down under Patrice Evra’s lunge,
before Fernando Torres took a tumble
under pressure from Antonio Valencia.
The answer, it would seem, depends on
who you speak to.
Bullish boy from Pamplona
To understand this man, let us first start
at the beginning. Alberto Undiano
Mallenco was born in Pamplona, the city
famous for its Running of the Bulls
festival, in 1973 and played football
throughout his childhood until the allure
of refereeing took hold.
In an interview with Goal.com before the
World Cup last summer he recalled: “A
friend of mine mentioned it to me once.
At first I told him, ‘You’re crazy! What,
me, being a referee?’
“But finally I decided to try it for one
match, and I really enjoyed it and have
carried on ever since.”
Mallenco worked his way through the
ranks and impressed along the way. He
finally got his break, at the age of 26,
when he was assigned to a La Liga match
in October 2000, becoming the youngest
Spanish referee ever to be in charge of a
top flight game.
He was a regular referee in Spain’s top
division for four years, and in 2004 he
became a Fifa referee, taking charge of
Uefa Cup matches and qualifiers.
He has since gone on to officiate in 130
matches in La Liga, 21 matches in Copa
del Rey, two Spanish SuperCopa and 33
international matches.
Within Spanish football, Mallenco has no
shortage of admirers and over the years
he has regularly been selected to take
charge of the biggest matches, including
four El Clasicos.
There were few complaints when he
reduced both Real Madrid and Barcelona
down to 10 men in one match at the Nou
Camp in 2009.
Lassana Diarra’s reckless kick on Xavi and
Sergio Busquets’ needless handball were
both valid reasons for Mallenco to dish
out a second yellow to both men – and
attracted no gripes from the opposing
managers.
More recently Real Madrid’s Alvaro
Arbeloa suffered a similar fate after being
given a second yellow card in his team’s
3-2 away win over Getafe in January.
The last match he took charge of was
Espanyol’s 2-1 home defeat at the hands
of Racing Santander on Sunday.
He awarded a penalty to the home side
after Domingo Cisma handled the ball in
the penalty area, leading also to the
inevitable caution.
Sergio Aguilera of Goal.com Spain
opines: “Mallenco is one of the most
reputed referees of Spanish football.
“He is usually designated for the biggest
matches of the Spanish domestic
competition and has received several of
the most important awards of Spanish
refereeing such as the Trofeo Guruceta
and Trofeo Vicente Acebedo.”
Last year Mallenco received the honour of
being his country’s refereeing
representative at the 2010 World Cup.
Ominously, he flew to South Africa after
dishing out four red cards in four La Liga
matches at the end of the 2009-10
season.
An excited Mallenco told Goal.com last
year: “When I was told I was selected I
just felt fantastic.
“When you start to referee you don’t
really imagine that one day you will
officiate in a World Cup. It was a huge and
a very nice surprise, and I think it’s going
to be a fantastic World Cup and one that I
hope I can really enjoy.”
But at the World Cup, where he would
officiate three matches, Mallenco would
find himself in the spotlight for all the
wrong reasons.
He also suffered the ignominy of being
branded a ‘clown’ by Mick McCarthy – the
Wolves boss moonlighting as a TV pundit –
after sending off Miroslav Klose in
Germany’s 1-0 defeat to Serbia where he
also dished out eight yellow cards and
awarded a contentious penalty.
Further criticism came from the Germans
with defender Arne Friedrich telling
reporters after the game that the referee
was too quick to brandish his cards.
He said: “With almost every foul he
pulled a yellow card. There are few
players who didn’t get one.”
Even the usually calm Germany coach
Joachim Loew pitched in: “Klose just tried
to kick the ball away and then was
unlucky to hit the opponent’s leg.
“There were a couple of tackles where I
felt the yellow cards were justified but
there were many yellow cards given for
tackles that weren’t malicious at all and
could have been avoided.”
The following week, Mallenco presided
over a cardless 3-0 win for the Ivory
Coast against North Korea and also
officiated in the Netherlands’ 2-1 round
of 16 win over Slovakia, awarding a
penalty to the Slovakians in injury time
after Netherlands goalkeeper Maarten
Stekelenburg had tripped Robert Vittek.
It’s unlikely however that Didier Drogba’s
abiding memory of Mallenco will be for
him being the man in the middle during
the Ivory Coast’s stroll against North
Korea.
March 2009 saw Mallenco officiate a hotly
contested 2-2 draw between Chelsea and
Juventus.
His performance in the Stadio delle Alpi
that night led to questions about whether
he was experienced enough for the big
games with one report branding him a
‘referee so far out of his depth he was
drowning’.
During the match he sent off Giorgio
Chiellini and awarded a contentious
penalty which triggered a 15 man-melee –
for yes, you guessed it, a handball.
Infamously he waved play on after Didier
Drogba’s free kick appeared to
comfortably cross the line before being
scooped up by Gigi Buffon.
It led to vociferous appeals from Drogba,
John Terry and Michael Ballack whilst later
an angry Guus Hiddink, Chelsea’s manager
at the time, called for the introduction of
video technology in football.
Free header for Efe over the top. Should have scored.