Celtic have lost in the game immediately after three of their previous four European games, shipping nine points which could be crucial in determining the destination of the championship, so it was not surprising they were below par for much of the game yesterday. Fortunately, the Aberdeen goal came early enough to allow Celtic time to raise their game and respond.
How Celtic respond after European games will become even more crucial in the weeks ahead as they have visits to Motherwell, Dundee United and St Johnstone due after our next three Europa League games. Any slim championship aspirations will be extinguished in these games if Celtic are unable to improve performance for the league challenge.
Ally McCoist is defying early predictions and grinding out impressive results for Rangers, who will seldom have started the league with such an impressive defensive record. Six away wins from six games without conceding a goal is the kind of form it takes to win leagues.
Our more immediate challengers, Motherwell, dropped two points on Saturday, meaning we can go two points clear of them if we win our game in hand, however, the teams meet at Fir Park a week on Sunday (three days after Celtic play Rennes), in what looks like being a key game in our season.
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Someone asked last week on CQN for old Celtic stuff – presumably for selling on with the proceeds going to The Thai Tims.
I have 2 books I’m willing to give away or auction for this cause.
1) Billy McNeil biog from 1965 Celtic and Scotland
2) Gerry McNee A History of Celtic
Both books are in amazing condition.
McNee’s book gives a detailed and interesting account of what went on with the players before the Feynoord European Cup Final in 1970.
The foreword is by Desmond White and (for the time) heavily critisises George Graham who ruled the SFA in the 1950s. White mentions Graham’s membership of the Freemasons and fairly lets rip about the bigotry and prejudice Celtic endured at that time.
If someone can point me in the right direction or wants to start an auction for the books let me know via benjybhoy@gmail.com
Zbyszek @ 15 21-
Many thanks for posting that link——— hard to see Hawk Eye being used in Scotland —–the powers that be seem to prefer One Eye —–
Basic truth about elements within the Italian football media is that if a player is Under 21 and doing well they will ” link ” him with an Italian club [ usually permutations of Udinese / Parma/ Palermo /Napoli and Atalanta. ———– ] Such linkage usually takes this form ——
” Udinese are said to be very interested in Legia Warsaw’s Zbyszeck ” –
They never , ever , say who said it , when they said it or where they said it
67 European Cup Winners says:
24 October, 2011 at 17:32
see my post above, wilfully putting celtic into 10m debt at the moment would be crazy. pl wont have the say on whether we spend the money or not.
GM – I missed the debate but it doesnt surprise me – the reinvention of history and language is the new black. Besides the BBC are firmly into appeasing the huns at the moment……….
European cup winners – the problem for me is that Lennon was chosen because he was cheap – pure and simple. That is part of the problem………..
Kojo says:
24 October, 2011 at 17:29
Is Paddy a “Match Winner”?
Absolutely, paddy became our biggest attacking threat in the short time he was on, his spells in possession had the double effect of the opposition not having the ball as well as being worried about Paddys goal threat
In the event that Rangers FC experience a liquidation event were a new company, Rangers FC 2012, is born from the ashes of embarrassment, do you believe our club, Celtic FC, should vote to allow the new company to take the place of the old, defunct, Rangers FC in the SPL with immediate effect.
1085 voted.
NO. – 1052 97%
YES. – 26 2%
Not Sure – 7 1%
If you not voted already please do so via Have your say – Poll
The more Celts who vote the more powerful a statement to our board the results will be. The Poll will be open for another 24 days so please pass, email, txt, twitter, facebook, post on other Celtic sites.
The less money HM Government has, the more organisations such as the Earl Haig Fund are relied upon to help ex-Servicemen and women, and their families, overcome physical, emotional and financial difficulties.
It is highly ironic that the organisation which appears to be doing the most it can to starve HM Government of tax funds, and thereby increasing the physical, emotional and finacial difficulties of ex-Servicemen and women is likely to be the one which most loudly proclaims its loyalty to HM Government and her armed forces.
Its a funny old world.
Yesterday Legia played against Widzew. Just before kick off visitor’s fans threw few flares on the pitch and the game started few minutes after time.
Next game we play against same team after tomorrow (Cup).
Today Legia issued statement where they say that due to prohibited won’t be able to buy tickets for the game. Legia sent invitations to schools and told that children under 14 can come and watch the game for free.
Can Celtic do the same when play against Rangers at Celtic Park? I think that would be better than boycott.
Development Squad’s derby draw
By: Laura Brannan on 24 Oct, 2011 16:31
CELTIC’S Development Squad drew 0-0 with a strong and experienced Rangers side this afternoon, (Monday), at Lennoxtown Training Centre.
The young Hoops team consisted of eight players from the Under-19s, Thomas Rogne, a trialist and Dominic Cervi in goals, while Rangers fielded several first-team players including Neil Alexander, Kirk Broadfoot and Juan Ortiz.
Celtic dominated proceedings and were unfortunate not to find a winner, especially late in the second-half when captain, Marcus Fraser, cracked the ball off the post.
But despite being unable to break the deadlock, the home side were strong in defence and Rangers found it difficult to create many chances.
Coach, Stevie Frail was delighted with the result. “I’m really pleased,” he exclusively told the official website. “Rangers fielded a really experienced team with guys like Healy, Alexander, Broadfoot, Fleck, Ortiz and McKay.
“We had nine Under-19s starting the game. It was virtually the team that played against Manchester City last week.
“The only changes were Dominic Cervi who replaced Robbie Thomson, and a trialist who came in for the injured Filip Twardzik. So we were really pleased with the level of performance and the way in which they played.”
He believes a lot of the confidence being showed right now is down to a number of reasons, but mainly from their 4-2 victory in the NextGen Series and the recognition the players have been getting for it at the top level.
“There’s a lot of confidence in the squad,” he said. “Five of them travelled to Rennes for last week’s game and two of them got on to the bench.
“Dylan McGeouch was on the bench on Sunday too against Aberdeen so they’re getting a lot of confidence from that as well.”
And based on this afternoon, and the previous NextGen games, Frail expects the players to take a lot from these experiences.
“Marcus hit the post and Tony had a chance where he chose to pass instead of take the shot. I think we would have deserved the win if we’d got it,” he continued.
“But these games are all about development and their level of performance against top, top players.
“They will take a lot from this afternoon, and it goes on top of not just the Manchester City game but the Marseille and Barcelona games too, even though we lost those.
“They know the level of performance expected of them and they need to keep showing that because there is still another step-up from that level and the first-team.
“Hopefully they can impress the manager enough, and he feels secure enough to put them into his team.”
CELTIC: Cervi; Miller, Fraser, Rogne (Chalmers), Trialist (P. Twardzik); Herron, Irvine, McGeouch, McGregor, George, Watt
falkirkbhoy says:
24 October, 2011 at 17:30
I saw James in the unlikely venue of Myrtle Park, Bingley just over a year ago.
They were brilliant, but upstaged by a truly memorable set from PiL.
Bingley, eh. Who’dathunkit.
celtic40me says:
24 October, 2011 at 17:39
I get the bit about not getting into debt (more debt) but sometimes you need to take a “calculated” risk
My good friend NegAnon2 says the only reason we have NL is because he is cheap??
Possibly true – however this simply exagerates the problem
So we save a £1million on the manager and wate £2.5million on Bangura (or name a couple of players of your chosing)
OK the £10 million comment was my excitement on the keyboard but you get my point
I dont think we need to spend money on new players – but I do think we need to spend money on a new manager
67 ECW
Awful Blackberry
Statement considered wrong behaviour Widzew fans have shown at the game.
Moonbeams WD.
My answer to your Poll Question is a very big – NO.
However —– I fear that Celtic FC would respond with a —— Yes.
It’s an Old Firm thing !
celtic40me says:
24 October, 2011 at 17:37
Salve salve;- Unfortunately, I think you are exactly right in your assertions but watching an underachieving side is most trying on one’s patience.
Greenwells
Qui potest capere capiat
Che
You’re quite right, that sort of nonsense can gallop out of control( once it gets the bit between its teeth)
My dear,dear,dear,dear,friend..LionRoars67 @ 17.44
You are of the Opinion that Paddy is… a “Match Winner”
Ah am maist Certainly of the Opinion .
That Paddy is Far, Far, Far,form Being… a “Match Winner”
Noo. if the question had Bin..couched..
“COULD, Paddy, become a .. “Match Winner”
Then
Ah wid be of the Opinion that .
Sure, he Certainly COULD.
It all boils doon tae how the Manager, approaches the
problem..and it iS a Problem.. of
Why Paddy has the POTENTIAL to be the Next .. “CHARLES PATRICK”
If..
He ..that is Paddy.. is Taken aside ..like Ah said.. and Told
HOW.. to use his Immeasurable.. and Undoubted… Fitba’ing Skill..
in the
CORRECT…… MANNER!
It is obvious.. Tae Me.. No tae YOU..and ithers, evidently…
That Paddy needs Guidance .. Badly..
on how to Get the Utmost from his Outstanding Ability.
Paddy, is seems to me.. has bin very badly Coached..throughtoot..
HIS WHOLE FITBA’ING CAREER..
Eethur That…
Or…
Paddy, is just wan of those Guys..
WHO WULLNAE LISTEN tae Sound Advice..
Take yer Pick..
Me?
Ah Pick the Latter Reason.
Kojo
yer pal.. who likes ye aloater
Evening Celts ……… as I posted last night one of the two scumbags walked into a police station last night and gave himself up, Ard Macha knows what happened to the other bloke I’d say.
My wife (Joe’s cousin) told me tonight that the reason Joe O’Neil was at that taxi rank, was that he was walking two young lassies (over from Greenock…. ex Presidents of the CSC’s daughter) from the pub to the taxi rank, to make sure they get home ok, this was typical of Joe, apparently it was a nothing argument and never came to anything, the two blokes then followed Joe along the road and attacked him. The two lassies never knew anything about it until they got back to Scotland, they’re devastated as Joe was just doing them a favour.
Funerals on Thursday.
GL2 you’ll likely know CL’s daughter.
V
HH
Kojo says:
24 October, 2011 at 18:00
We are in agreement Kojo
Coach with vision and skill is exactly what Paddy needs
For he is never a wide midfield player
A match winner with his skill deserves a more central position, i was hoping for Paddy at H/T on Sunday at the head of a midfield diamond or just off Stokes
i think celtic should spend money on new players/manager etc. but if we are going to spend money i suggest we sell players as well like paddy for example .. dont get me wrong he is one of my favourite players and i would love to see him playing in a celtic shirt more often but he dosent get a lot of game time for celtic so what isthe point of having him if we are not going to play him it is also unfair on paddy.
HH
DB67
Another thought – i do need to calm down
are the players playing for NL ?????????
I will answer my own question – I think Mulgrew is probably Forrest maybe Mathews
Another question – what has happened sinse the end of last year ?????
Have the players seen through the limited ability of our coaching staff???
At the start of the year I would have put my house on Celtic winning the league now I would’nt
What has gone wrong
Going for a pint – things become clearer after a couple of pints
67 ECW
As someone who always wore a poppy for the right reason and that is to respect the sacrifice that millions of men and woman made during WW1.
The fact that it was called the Earl Haig fund did not deter me, nor did the GB telling me not to support it and certainly not the tax dodgers shamefully exploitation of the charity.
I am 100% behind the Irish Bhoys who will never wear one. They have every right not to do so. I also disagreed with having it on our shirts and believe it should never ever appear on the Celtic jersey again.
The reason that I will not wear one again is due to the Right wing jingoistic media here in England, who have made it a matter of them against us. Their shameful attack on the likes of Jon Snow made me sick.
67 European Cup Winners says:
24 October, 2011 at 17:55
i think the days of even calculated risk are gone for a while, the time for that seems to have passed. i cant talk about a new manager at the moment, i think lenny needs all our support, which is in no way having a go at you for your opinion.
NegAnon2,
totally agree with you’re earlier post re sticking our heads in the sand. Theres a constant over the last three years or so and its not the three Celtic managers, its those who’s hands are firmly on the purse strings and not letting go. The next manager will not get the support we expect and the one after him, meanwhile we disappear from the world stage of football, I think under DD and PL there is a long way to drop yet, we need to recognise the root cause of failure IMO.
V
HH to ye NegAnon2!
Greenwells Glory says:
24 October, 2011 at 17:59
agreed, its not much fun at the moment.
Dontbrattbakkinanger says:
24 October, 2011 at 15:53
Andrew Jennings is a persistent fly in the ole FIFA linament; technically he’s not a great writer but he deserves kudos for his unlazy approach to the ole journalism.
……………………………………………………………………………………………….
Unlazy?
Geez, that’s uncredible!
BigChipsUk 14.58
Interesting.
TT
benjybhoy
ref your books. Blly McNeil: if its the sportsbook club edition, in good nick, no more than £10, if original publisher and got dustjacket could be as much as£50
McNee did 2 books, history one maybe £20 /£30 If its “and you’ll never walk alone” easily get £50 + hope this helps.
67 European Cup Winners says:
24 October, 2011 at 18:08
Another thought – i do need to calm down
I think the siege mentality of the manager and squad took us very far last year. It cannot be carried in to this year. The circumstances of last year were peculiar and disgraceful.
I look at the dugout sometimes for animation and it is not there when it should be. Overall we are about 50% of the team we were last year.
I see comparisons in Neils behaviour with Roy Keane as a manager.
I hope I am wrong.
Test
For Mr Z – Legia Warszawa!
V
My dear,dear,dear,dear,friend.. LionRoars67 # 18.06
Exactement! Mon Vieux.
Yep..Och Aye..
Ye hiv jist goat tat the Nub or the Nub..of the
LEETLE PROBLEM..
Whit “LEETLE PROBLEMO”?
Why.
Why We are Spinning oor Wheels.. and Getting Nae Where .. Fast.
The Trouble that Celtic is Going Thru, at this time,is, Ineluctably, being
Encouraged, Helped.. Aided.. and dinna forget.. Abbetted..
By
THE MONUMENTAL LACK …
Of EXCELLENT
INDIVIDUAL and TEAM ..
COACHING!
In EVERY match.. which AH watch..
It is Screaming oot at me. that Celtic As a Team are
POSSIBLY..
THE VERY WORSE COACHED . Team in the S.P.L.
Mebbe,, even.. In Scotland..
Fur..
We hiv Excellent Talent in this Team. Make no mistake aboot that..
But..
Like Ah said.
OOR TEAM COACHING.. is
The VERY PITS !!
And that Makes Me.. Kojo..
Hopping Mad..
Am Ah the Only Guy.. who is Blaming the COACHING??
Instead, of Blaming..
Jist aboot everything and Everybuddy Else.. fur oor
Up and Doon .. Inconsistent Performancec.. Baith as a Team ,and Also, the
Individuals In it???
IT’S THE COACHING , DUMMY!!!
Ah am no talking tae you,pal..when AH say that..
That is Jist wan o’ they Watchamacallit..remarks..which ur
Known in the Trade.. as RHETORICAL STATEMENTS.
Celtic, Need Tae Buy , Beg, Or Kidnap..
A TOP Fitba’ Coach..
That is whit we Need, maist.. First and Foremost.
Kojo
yer pal..who likes ye aloater.
Who is Vincent Lunny new SFA compliance manager?
Depressing days indeed, they’ll be able to close the upper tier at the rate we are going.
Very sad, they can’t fix the team and the board have as much as told us it’s damage limitation.
Lose the league before Christmas and it’s onwards towards the Green Brigade along with some dye hards, and occasional customers.
Sven sacked from Leicester…
HH
Giggs
googybhoy says:
24 October, 2011 at 18:19
Roy Keane, now there is a great comparison – competative, sullen, depressive trends, my way or the highway – the trouble is my friend you may be right
I really am of for a pint
Hail Hail
67 ECW
John Terry has categorically denied making a racist slur towards Anton Ferdinand, but hasn’t ruled out making a move on his burd…
HH
Giggs
Eriksson sacked by Leicester.
67 European Cup Winners says:
24 October, 2011 at 18:29
Mate, that comment is way out of line.
I am concerned at the way things are going for us the same as everyone else, but let’s leave comments about “depressive trends” out of it, eh.
Kojo 18:26
Have to agree with your opinion about our coaching at the moment. I am completly baffled as too what has happened with the team this season.
The lazy,lethargic attitude of the players is really getting on my nerves.
The lack of organisation of our setup is pretty revealing too.
The problem is nobody wants to have a go at Lenny considering what the man has been through but with that said we badly need a top coach at the club.
We have a long wait until Izzy and Broonie are back.
KTF