I looked into the world of Scottish football betting yesterday. Betting on Celtic to win the Scottish Premiership is less rewarding than putting your money in an interest bearing account, which, I suspect, is an approximation of what bookmakers will do with any such bets. In short, our league is not so much a sport as a secure investment.
Betting gets really interesting if you meander onto what is referred to as the Without Celtic market, or who will win the league if Celtic are taken out of the equation. Favourites are Aberdeen, closely followed by Motherwell and then Dundee United and Hibs (hmm….).
Can you imagine what a league title like this would do for these clubs? Aberdeen, Motherwell and United actually vying to become champions?
Some hold a notion that Celtic are the great benefactors of Scottish football, which is dependent on you and me for the occasional home game and TV money. This is rubbish. Celtic inhibits Scottish football more than we can imagine. We are a competitive poison making it impossible for historically significant football teams to thrive.
Keeping a clean sheet away from home is an achievement for any team. Doing so twice, in Europe, and winning both games, is outstanding for St Johnstone. Well done. I can only imagine their absence from the top of the Without Celtic betting chart is a result of bookmakers anticipating their run to the Europa League final in Turin will hinder their league challenge.
I have to express my sheer delight at yesterday’s pronouncement by the chief executive of Rangers International FC PLC, Craig Mather. We can be confident of this guy’s credentials and that he is worthy of following in the footsteps of Charles Green, Tommy Cooper and other comedic greats.
Mather issued a statement on the club’s web site noting punishments handed out to Hearts and Dunfermline for entering administration were different from the punishment handed out to Rangers International’s predecessor club (the player registrations and current penalties Newco Rangers were allowed to inherit) – for a completely different series of offences.
Those penalties were imposed for a variety of misdemeanours, including failure to declare the club appointed a director who had been struck off, failure to comply with stock market rules and multiple counts of bringing the game into disrepute. The SFA disciplinary panel responsible for the penalties found that “only match fixing in its various forms might be a more serious breach”.
Would you not feel a wee bit embarrassed by this? Mr Mather asks for clarification but I suggest we don’t trouble him by directing him to the aforementioned SFA panel’s ruling. Better that he operates in the version of reality he is most comfortable with, and that he keeps his followers away from looking into the real issues……..
To that effect, our thanks to all the media outlets who unquestioningly reported the Mather comments without hint of irony, apart from those pesky online types at STV, who had the temerity to address the question. Cease and desist immediately.
Flag Day tomorrow, another historic moment in Celtic history. Get in early, or late afternoon, as it happens. Hoping to see some of our new guys make their claim for a start in Sweden.
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….PFayr
15:32 on
2 August, 2013
Summa
More serious things to worry about mate …..
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What like..? a Dead Team..or Celtic PLC have NOT Signed a Striker You Like..
Thank Ghod l worry about Non Serious things..;-)
Summa of CelticTalibanCSC
Remember going to a Man U V Bury game and Wilf McGuiness ex Man U favorite was part of the Bury staff all you ever heard when Wilf appeared on the sidelines from both sets of supporters was “slap is ead, slap is ead, slap is ead” to the tune of the old here we go ditty.
Wilf lapped it up every time.
Sexist comments happen but if done in jest I am sure the Elfsborg physios know the difference.
If everyone got their nickers in a twist at every so called offensive remark at a football ground we would be in real trouble.
There is a line but humour must be kept alive.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
15:08 on 2 August, 2013
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I’m not trying to curry favor with ye here but – I agree 100% M8.
Since the SB malarky begun during the Fergus era – I know there were SB’s before then
but – since the SB-era begun to combat the impact of the ‘beast’ oer the road – there has slowly but surely been an increase in a kind of ‘class wars’ amongst the support ie – If ye don’t have a SB – yer not a ‘real’ supporter or, yer no committed enough to the Celtic cause. Hmmm
For me – since the flattenning of the Jungle – the Cellic support have become populated by in the main – by a ‘camel-coat’ brigade – who look doon their noses at folk who find that, the Celtic FC is not now the one that was promised by the ‘rebels’ of whom there are NONE to be found aroon CP these days, a rather smug / arrogant / demeanor for example – when Gretna FC were told they would be going out of existence and, one their immediate games was v’s us at Livingstons Stadium and we had the site of Celtic fans going over the Gretna fans section – waving £20 /£10 £5 notes in their faces ?
I wizny at the game on Wednesday as I can’t go these days for financial reasons but, reading on here – the treatment of the 2 Swedish physios and, the treatment of the Gretna fans…the breed of Cellic support these days has become more dare I say it – Sevconian ?
As I have said often enough on here – I find that the ONLY remaining shred of Cellic-ness to be found at the club these days is that of the maligned / kettled / oppressed but absolutely MAGNIFICENT young Ghirls n Bhoys of the Green Brigade. imo
HH
Stand by for ole Chortles on every mainstream media platform, with his new messages of No Surrender
minx1888 13:59
I was at the game and was seated in 405
I loudly berated all those morons who indulged in juvenile sexist behaviour to grow up
I am the father of a 22-y-o young woman and would be raging if she had to put up with such rubbish in the course of her employment
The comparison with sectarian abuse is bang on – if we dismiss brainless numptyism as banter we allow the Hun the same get out
Get real
I cancelled Sky Sports today, in favour of BT Sports ….. The guy asked me why and I said I had heard a rumour that craig burley would a commentator this season .. Reply “sorry, what do you mean ??”…..lhahahahahahahahahahahahaha….
Consider
40,000 crowd …predominately female ..many of them young …a few half drunk ..watch a female sports match
Onto the pitch run two fit young men …
Any suggestions of the comments that would have been made …
“He walks like a woman and he wears a bra”
Dee Dee Dum
kevjungle
15:40 on 2 August, 2013
What a load of old nonsense…..but, as ever, amusing …!!!!!
DR………………Evil Genius joins Scotland’s most loved tabloid
Summa
I mean serious things ….
I wouldn’t behave as sone bhoys did …shouldn’t really happen …
Was I offended …not really …fairly thick skinned me
….PFayr
15:43 on
2 August, 2013
Probably a load of sexist ‘banter’ that shouldn’t happen either.
Minx1888, TBB
While I appreciate both your sentiments. Complaining to Celtic is futile and ultimately frusttating. Our INTEGRAL part in the offensive behaviour bill along with our own experiences tells us that. We need to get away from draconian behaviour from all forms of discrimination not just anti protestantism. Pantomime nudge wink wink may be considered harmless and the physios dating they enjoyed it was nice but maybe
lots of other woman did not.
Its 2013 and we seem to be encouraging the WWF mania type of supporter who believes we can do no wrong.
Booing Celtic players
Singling out Celtic players
Having kittens until we are 3.0 up has to be weeded out
Or we will be back to bear baiting never mind pantomine. Actually that sounds like good half time entertainment ;-)
Maybe 3 sevconians in a mastermind type of forum…would be good for a laugh ;-)
We need to stop the excuses and start behaving. You need your hole darling is as offensive as no protestants at all
HH
PFayr
15:43 on 2 August, 2013
Consider
40,000 crowd …predominately female ..many of them young …a few half drunk ..watch a female sports match
Onto the pitch run two fit young men …
Any suggestions of the comments that would have been made …
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ma wee granny used to shout at the bingo caller “rummle yer baws”
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PF..
Look at that Besterts Hair..
Summa of SammisHairCSC
Before anyone jumps down my throat there was little in way of sexist behaviour in 405
I have a loud voice
pf ayr 15:43 – some would say that’s bordering on whataboutery
Celtic won 1 of their 4 meetings with Ross County last season.
BSR
Saving him for Wed.I bet.
That said if JF runs their defence ragged I will be the first to applaud,but we cannot afford less than 100% and it appears NL cant see this. I would play Mathews in the right mid field rather than JF.
67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors
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Hopefully yer moniker will be realized soon M8 :)
Fed-up reading awe the hun stuff – CSC
HH
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Move the Needle..
Kevjungle
I agree mate an absolute belter of a post.
HH
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/analysis-the-bigger-picture-of-charles-greens-shares-and-rangers-future.1375452575
Dushanbe Billy Bhoy
at 15.22
Thanks Fur the Nod,Pal
So .. Ye Get it?
Ah am gled.. Fur.. although, some dae.. Miny Oan her .. dinnae.
Noo ,the reason ye may find .. some of Ma Stuff.. Amusing,
is because..
Usually, if ye Look carefully through the Labyrinthic Twisting of Ma Somewhat . Didactic Prose..
Ye wull Find a wee Kernal of Truth…
And..
Like Ah keep oan telling you guys..
The only reason that wan finds something amusing is because,
that “Something”… Happens tae Be ..True!
Nice chatting,pal
Kojo
Still, Laughin
Prog on BBC 2 at the moment, full of women trying to get it in the hole.
Still pmsl that Chuckles is taking money out of Sevco FC as a consultant.
….pfayr
15:43 on 2 August, 2013
Although all fans should show respect to the ‘fairer sex’, I agree with you….. If people are really serious about gender respect, their time would be better spent canvassing their MPs / media etc for action to be taken to remove porn from the Internet ….. Whole generations of very young people are being exposed to this blatant abuse of, and no respect for, women…. Disgusting….. it is being allowed to continue due to the billions of generated revenue……and it could be stopped with the flick of a switch……
Thankfully, there is (finally) action being proposed where, apparently, you can choose whether or not to have ‘access’ to these sites blocked….incredible…..you can in essence, therefore, continue to ‘promote’ this abuse if you want to…….civilized society…..????????
Kevjungle
Memo to all the fashionistas out there.
If you’ve got the hump, don’t wear the camel coat!
I don’t think those Swedish ladies were abused in any way. I was at the game. I think I read that one of them has said so.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
15:55 on 2 August, 2013
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Thanks Mate n Hail Hail
Mather’s stupid comments came straight from the mouth of his puppeteer, Monsieur LeVert.
Celtic Mac
16:00 on 2 August, 2013
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:o))) – nice one fella – HH
BSR
The bored could be doing with learning that particular ditty.
HH
I think I’ll quote Doctor Who here:
There’s no point in being grown up if you can’t be childish sometimes.
I was speaking with my wee brother late last night, early this morning. He was at the game 3 rows up behind the goal where KC scored(not sure which stand). He was with his wife and two sons. He said there where lots of wolf whistles but no other comments apart from someone behind him who at one point in the match yelled something like “Get intae these Abba lovers” which he and I both thought was quite funny
gsu
I was dead embarrassed Wednesday night when I realised I was the only one singing “Get your **** out for the bhoys!”
Hey-Ho….
It has finally happened. I turned to 529 on Virgin to see what was going down on ESPN. All I got was a “ESPN has ceased broadcasting on Virgin” message. I am now watching the Pro Bull Riding on Extreme Sports. I can’t believe we are watching football instead of this. Wild!!! BMX on now. I think I’ll watch the Tour of Poland cycling instead.
Afternoon Folks,
I am taking my boy to his first game tomorrow and wanted to give him the full experience of going on a supporters bus. Does anyone know of a bus running from Renton / Vale / Balloch / Dumbarton that you can get on w/o being a member ?
Cheers
Angela Haggerty has based her entire argument around the fact that she heard shout(s) of ‘you need your hole’.
To me it would be a remarkable coincidence if any given number of people made the same remark at the same time.
One person probably did shout it and to our eternal damnation he probably happened to be sitting beside our Angie, who thought that’d be a great way to demonise a few more supporters and increase her number of followers with like minded, snotty look down your nose at everyone else types.
Dundee riots?!! She must be after a job in the MSM.
HH