Celtic will almost certainly face HJK Helsinki in the third qualifying round of the Champions League. The Fins are 7-0 after the first leg of their second qualifying round against KR Reykjavik.
HJK were the first team to beat Martin O’Neill’s Celtic as they overcame a first leg deficit in the 2000 Uefa Cup to force the tie into extra time. Chris Sutton scored late to prevent the tie going to penalty kicks. HJK are also top of their domestic league after 17 games, so will be a well-oiled machine by the time the arrive at Celtic Park on 31 July or 1 August.
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Popularity of basketball may explain career of P.Crouch.
SydneyTim 12:39
I would say Helsinki are a better side than hertz and killie
2 teams that we could not beat at Hampden
I really fear that having no central defence will cost us
I do hope I am wrong
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ST– Would it not be better having a Positive Outlook on Celtic’s affairs …and be wrong…………..?
Worry thee not sir. :-)
hailhail
I shouldn’t do this but I will because I love honesty and class.
Watch the whole thing, buy the whole thing…
6 mins in.
Don’t skip the first six though, you’ll miss Lubo.
If you can, however much you can, if the most you can do is speak well of our club then you are a SUPPORTER.
I walk in humility beside those less fortunate who are devoted to our collective hearts ambitions regardless of my/their economic status. Their poor (rich) love twinned with their heartaches and hungers are the benchmark of our lifes ambitions; I hope we don’t let them down. I hope we don’t ever let ourselves down, by looking down on our brothers.
The Official History of Celtic Football Club – CD 4.1
HJK not a bad draw for the hoops IMO. No great distance to travel, irrespective of their position Finnish football not as strong as some we could have been drawn against. I think the hoops will progress and we will wait to see who in next round. I also think that NFL and PL will come through with the signings.
All in all I can see us in the CL groups and some new faces strutting their stuff on the hallowed turf. Personally I cannot wait, I hate the close season.
As NFL would say bring back the thunder. Keep the Faith bhoys.
HH
i dont think even one of the departures from celtic park this season have weakened our first team squad. we are in a better place now because we should have a tight knit squad that has played together for the best part of 2 years.
we will find out
Why are they allowed to be called Rangers. Airdrie came back as Airdrie United. This talk of rangers means that they have won. debt free , painful for a couple of years but not liquidated or dead. We need more legal qualification from the tax department and SFA on the name of the newco.
Arabs..
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Bada Bing
Don’t think they were all youngsters.
GK 1 Edwin van der Sar
RB 2 Michael Reiziger
CB 3 Danny Blind (c) 45′
DM 4 Frank Rijkaard
LB 5 Frank de Boer
CM 6 Clarence Seedorf 54′
RW 7 Finidi George
CM 8 Edgar Davids
CF 9 Ronald de Boer
AM 10 Jari Litmanen 69′
LW 11 Marc Overmars 33′
Substitutions:
GK 12 Fred Grim
DF 13 Winston Bogarde
FW 14 Nwankwo Kanu 54′
FW 15 Patrick Kluivert 69′
FW 16 Peter van Vossen
LB
Some pair of strides big John Daly is wearing today, I expect Eurochamps to be sporting similar at Aberdour!
Sorry to ask an obvious question here but who is this ‘Rangers’ going into the Ramsden Cup draw?
Kilmarnock fans get their point across
http://pic.twitter.com/tVfFGayi
setting free the bears on 20 July, 2012 at 12:58 said:
Sevco get a home fixture against East Fife
Is that a freebie on their Season Ticket :} ?
Toxico v East Fife in League Cup first round.
!!Bada Bing!! on 20 July, 2012 at 13:04 said:
setting free the bears on 20 July, 2012 at 12:58 said:
Sevco get a home fixture against East Fife
Is that a freebie on their Season Ticket :} ?
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Would only be 650 of them at last count
`freah` – fresh
RogueLeader on 20 July, 2012 at 12:55 said:
Division 3 side Rangers are unseeded in today’s draw.
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This must be the first time that a team that doesn’t exist are in a league they haven’t yet asked to join and have noclear owner and have no registered players!
Art of War 12:45
Aye hopefully doin’ a Jinki in Helsinki! HH
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Ha haa…nice one centurion. Like it, like it.
Meanwhile Sevco will be lookin pathetic down at Annan Athletic….?
hailhail
Sevco v HJK Methil
LiviBhoy-Remember it was 1994/95 when they won it,I think Kanu was 18 when he scored the winner,they were an exceptional group of players and not trying to compare like for like.
Agreed with sentiment above re Rankers name. It a MSM conspiracy as if it’s business as usual.. Let’s get clarity . So excited to see the hoops , Sean Fallon and Flags n Euro.
HH
!!Bada Bing!!
I thought big Patrick scored the winner and was only 17.
Blind
De Boer
Rijkaard
Were all top players who had played at World Cups by then.
They had quality and youngsters.
LB
Jungle Jim
That might be because Charlie and Victor are neither recognised out and out CB’s
and are much more Roy of the Rovers, type utility men. *good ones*
Thomas Rogne has a distinct tendency to be injured for long periods of the season,
Danny Majstorovic and Glen Loovens have left.
Celtic signed a Centre Back ( Jaroslaw Fojut ) then, as was their right retracted the contract, because the player was badly injured.
Looks to me like a side even without serious Euro aspirations that we’re short of a Centre Back and you’ll do well to miss the bandwagon posts.
Unless the budget has been altered, of course, which I doubt given that Fojut was a Bosman anyway.
Celtic First
Interesting thoughts about the influence of basketball coaching on fitba tactics 9GL2 might give us his wisdom later on this)
I’ve often felt that Scottish footballers suffer from us being a mono-sport nation. Very rarely, Roy Aitken and Alan Hansen, were notable exceptions, do we have senior pros who were allowed to develop abilities in “minor” sports before specialising in football. Such is the pressure to get 10,000 hours of football practice into our young players, that they are given little time or encouragement to develop cross-sport transferable skills.
In France, Spain, Italy and Germany, they support professional leagues in Basketball, Handball and Volleyball and many of their football players played these sports in their development. Even small countries manage more than one sport. Lithuania produces world class Basketball players and their football talent is only a notch behind ours. Latvia produced one of the top volleyball clubs in the old USSR.
In this UK, the players golf in their time off. Though many footballers can become fairly talented golfers, there is little in the way of transferrable skills coming back the way from their having played golf.
Don’t tell GL2 but I think Celtic’s under-aged players would benefit from some experience playing Basketball and Handball. Some of them might even develop Henrik-like hang time if they did the jum training involved in Volleyball.
So Sevco will start its quest for its first ever League Cup at home – assuming they can get an SFA membership, a football license and whatever other permissions and permits are necessary first.
What’s the odds on the BBC putting in a bid for live coverage?
Anyone know if the Ajax game is on the box? THX.
So what happens if the SFA back down, let Sevco in and then BDO strip CG of the assets?
Ah, the old centre half debate
It has ever been thus….
Assuming 4-2-3-1, you’re looking at 2 from the following 4 I guess. Wilson, Rogne, The Bold Charlie and Man City bound Victor (aye right). My pref would be Rogne and Mulgrew, but Wilson seems to be getting game time this summer. I think you could be looking at Rogne & Wilson. The Bold Charlie may be preferred to Izzy at left back. Matthews stays at RB for me.
I think we’ll need Victor in a holding role – apparently he’s rocked up super fit. He would be 1st on my team sheet.You’ll see Sammy, the apple of Lenny’s eye (!) up front, with the remainder of the midfield being Forrest, Commons, Ledley, Brown
I think, but I generally get in wrong…..
Ajax game on Setanta 1 apparently tomorrow evening
According to the Sun Rangers are in talks with Sky for a RangersTV channel and for 25 live Third Division games…but according Doncaster/Traynor etc Sky will not touch an SPL with a barge pole that doesn’t include Rangers…does that make any sense to any one? So basically what they are saying is that Rangers are the only show in town? Yet Celtic are one of the few genuine clubs in Britain with a global fanbase. And they wonder why no one buys their papers any more.
Celtic First –
Agree that the officiating in Euro 2012 suggested a change in how such things are interpreted..
Agree with you re the influence of basketball..
The Udinese player would have been delighted to see Hooper’s uncoordinated attempt to win a very hard to win ball. He truly would have being saying Graziemille ! Hooper was doing that very Scottish thing of fighting and failing to get the ball——– the Brazilian was thinking — OH good -here comes a penalty . He didn’t dive , he didn’t simulate, he simply took advantage of Hooper’s action .
Great to see the focus back on football, and everyone offering opinions on the Euro draw.
For what it’s worth, I think that in the modern football arena, having the first leg at home, is more of an advantage these days.
If we can keep a clean sheet at home, then going into the second leg, the away goal advantage is ours and ours alone.
Ideally, I would like us to win at home by three or four, but , as a worst case, I would take zero zero, as I believe that guys like Hooper are capable of scoring away from home in Europe. Also, if he is fit, Bangura’s pace can be a great asset, not necessarily to score, but, to stretch the opposition and create space for Hooper, Forest and Commons.
Gincher67 on 20 July, 2012 at 13:16 said:
Ajax game on Setanta 1 apparently tomorrow evening
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Cheers bud! HH
Big draw today. huns got East Fife in the League cup.
SFTB
I know you know a lot about this subject so I respect your view.
I think it’s wider than just transferrable skills. I’ve only ever played football, but I played at comparative levels (decently high amateur) in three countries: Scotland, Spain and England. I finished in 1993. There was no difference between Scotland and England. Spain was like a different game, a real culture shock.
Years later, I realised that playing football in Spain taught me to like watching football in Spain much more. To appreciate better what was going on, if you like. I believe that a lot of people have switched on to the attributes of the Spanish national team (and so they should) in the last few years with the tournament successes that have come. Jimmy Burns wrote in the FT last weekend that he thinks it’s because the team finally found a good coach. Nevertheless, we still have very highly paid commentators question the style and the tactics and call it boring. It’s a cultural thing. And I think Spanish players, coaches, crowds, media and referees have all been influenced by the basketball thing, specifically with regard to the two things I mentioned: the importance of keeping the ball (I know you only get 30 seconds’ possession in basketball, but to lose possession during that time is a disaster, right?) on the positive side and the insistence that any contact with a guy who has the ball is a foul on the negative (while off the ball anything goes, hence all the formation country-dancing at corners and free-kicks).
Where I think you are correct is that coaching of football in Scotland could benefit immensely from studying coaching at high levels in other sports (not golf).
The bould bhoys….. Tá ár lá anois on 20 July, 2012 at 12:56 said:
Traynor et al inhabit a world where all the normal moral rules of civilized conduct are inverted, where everything is upside down…they are like blind bats hanging upside down in the darkness of their caves…
South Of Tunis on 20 July, 2012 at 13:19 said:
would you be surprised to hear that one of the SFA referee training video package, highlights this in the category “when not to give a penalty” ?
Wonky radar,
Is that the same Sun newspaper who have been carrying full page ads for Sky highlighting that they will be covering the SPL ?
Just asking like
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS – I got the impression that the situation in The Yemen is not caused by drought or famine as such,but that around TEN MILLION people in that country haven’t the income required to source the plentiful food available.
That is why OXFAM and other aid agencies are handing out cash parcels,not food parcels.
Yup.
Famines are caused by poverty. It’s why we in the West, and other developed countries like Japan, no longer experience famine. We’ve grown rich enough as societies to mitigate against it.
Crops can fail, potatoes can be blighted, but there’s enough agricultural capacity in the world to feed everyone: starvation is caused by lack of money, not a lack of supply in global food production.
I’m glad Oxfam has gotten the message on this. Not long ago they were proposing the mind-garglingly stupid idea that the solution to poverty and starvation in Africa was more smallholder farming: the kind of low-productivity, subsistence-level farming that involves endless backbreaking toil in exchange for a pittance. In other words, Oxfam was supporting the very medieval peasant lifestyle Africans need to move away from if they’re going to be able to reliably feed their children without depending on charity and being at the mercy of horrors like famine, disease, and malnutrition.
Happily, people in Africa know better than bien-pensant Western sandal-wearers and are dragging themselves out of poverty through the same route our ancestors did: industrialisation, economic growth, and all that jazz. You wouldn’t know it from the lachrymose images preferred by the Western media, but overall people in Africa are getting richer, better fed, and are living longer thanks to economic growth.
We could do them a huge favour by cancelling our government’s wasteful foreign aid budget, which largely subsidises the Mercedes fleets of dictators, and instead open ourselves up to free trade with Africa. That would simultaneously bring food prices down in the UK, helping our own poor, and help African farmers get richer.
What’s not to like? (thumbsup)