Celtic will almost certainly face HJK Helsinki in the third qualifying round of the Champions League. The Fins are 7-0 after the first leg of their second qualifying round against KR Reykjavik.
HJK were the first team to beat Martin O’Neill’s Celtic as they overcame a first leg deficit in the 2000 Uefa Cup to force the tie into extra time. Chris Sutton scored late to prevent the tie going to penalty kicks. HJK are also top of their domestic league after 17 games, so will be a well-oiled machine by the time the arrive at Celtic Park on 31 July or 1 August.
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sannabhoy on 20 July, 2012 at 13:32:
That statement is a testament to living in denial.
When you refuse to accept the football club you supported no longer exists, as the RST clearly does, then you view rules and regulations as a punishment rather than standard practice. They were not ‘relegated’ to the Third Division. They were accepted into the Third Division as a new club.
Sevco will not even play in the Third Division anyway.
For steps read states! Steps?
Phil @1327
Absolutely hilarious can’t get that image out of my head now. Brilliant.
Weefra HH
Philvis
Perhaps if the Good People of Yemen grew more nutritious courgettes,rather than devoting so much of their arable land to the production of Khatt(a hallucogenic amphetamine-like drug),they could enjoy a healthier lifestyle.
Khatt is a banned narcotic substance in most western countries,although this is not the case in the UK (yet).
Given the history of the Arab Peninsula,perhaps the smart idea would be to unite Yemen with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia,then the Civilised World could devote greater attention to more deserving deprived communities on our Small Blue Planet ?
(Thumbsup?)
MahatmaGandhiCSC
a little added to nothing when it is numerically represented…Ipods are BAD!
philvisreturns: As I understand it, and I may be wholly wrong, BDO have the power to take back the assets (presumably refund CG for money he paid for them – again, IF he actually paid anything) but also have the power to demand reasonable payment from CG, more akin to a true asset value.
If CG does a quick sale for say 30 million, before BDO act and thereby BDO can’t take back the assets, BDO can still demand money which reflects the true asset value. This could be far more than 30 million.
If so, it may be a safer bet for CG to cut his losses and get his money back.
Either way, BDO will play a huge part in what lies ahead…
Come on BDO, get stuck in….
philvisreturns on 20 July, 2012 at 13:57 said:
Du Wei or not Du Wei that is the question…
wonkyradar – Yes, we know Africa is still poor and has many problems, but it’s getting richer. That’s good news.
However, I would just point out that 7 of the world’s 10 fastest growing economies (Including Nigeria, Ethiopia, Tanzania and Zambia) are in Africa…but statistics do lie unfortunately
If statistics lie, why do you quote statistics on the bad news?
(thumbsup)
Whoop whoop , CQN badge arrived this morning , fantastic design and superb quality , well done bhoys . Will wear it with pride . Hail Hail
PHILVIS RETURNS 1323
Blinkin’ flip,bud.
How did you manage to contrive a tirade in favour of free-market economics from a simple reply to a question about a humanitarian disaster?
That takes some doing,especially as it seems that the internal free market in The Yemen has driven food supplies away from TEN MILLION HUMAN BEINGS who need fed,to other parts of the country who can easily afford the prices.
That’s the same sort of mentality which would be stupid enough to suggest that privatisation was a glorious shining success-which you did earlier in the week without providing any details to prove your opinion.
Keep going,Philvis. I’ll happily offer you a ladder once you realise that the shovel ain’t working.
Bobby Murdoch’s etc —–
Personally – I’d be delighted if all versions of Annie’s song were remixed into an unrecognizable shape..
Cue thoughts of John Denver
Reminds me of overhearing 2 skunked to the max dudes berating an on the telescreen wee Ginger Helmsman in good ole Tennents bar —— wee / Ginger/ Duffel coat wearing etc got an airing but ” bet he likes John Denver ” was the coup de grace.
Mea Culpa on 20 July, 2012 at 14:09 said:
Assuming that Charles Green does in fact ‘own the deeds’ to MP and Ibrokes, and assuming that he did indeed acquire these assets for £5.5m, then BDO have some work to do.
I’m guessing that both assets are worth considerably more than £5.5m – a hedge fund might have a pop at Ibrokes in return for a 25 year lease and MP, although subject to a long term lease to the Kelvinside Academy Memorial Fund would still be worth something. These assets should have been sold and the proceeds added to the pot to pay off the ultimate victims of this whole debacle – those present on the purchase ledger of Oldco.
Sadly, once in a while, the laws on limited liability allow unscrupulous business people to close a company, shaft creditors (in most instances HMRC or a bank) and re-start under a different guise. This is one of those cases.
starry plough on 20 July, 2012 at 13:29 said:
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Cheers Starry.
HH
Khat is a stimulant rather than a hallucinogenic [unlike courgettes].
The Singing Detective Demands The Resignation Of Campbell Ogilvie – I must confess I had never heard of Khatt before.
Did a quick google and it seems medical opinion is on the side of it being less addictive, and less likely to cause physical harm, than cannabis, alcohol, or tobacco.
So I say: let the people chew.
Given the history of the Arab Peninsula,perhaps the smart idea would be to unite Yemen with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia,then the Civilised World could devote greater attention to more deserving deprived communities on our Small Blue Planet ?
Maybe a united Caliphate would ginger things up in the Middle East. The world certainly needs more ginger. (thumbsup)
starry plough – Du Wei or not Du Wei that is the question…
Whether tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of Du Wei’s good fortune.
Or to take Adam Virgo against a sea of troubles
(thumbsup)
WeefratheTim – Absolutely hilarious can’t get that image out of my head now. Brilliant.
:) (thumbsup)
Wouldn’t it be brilliant if as viewers are enjoying the opening ceremony of the OG, the wee ticker-tape news at the bottom of the screen reports that rangers fc have been unable to gain registration with the SFA and so will be withdrawing from SFL div 3.
Alternatively, it might tell us that BDO have taken CG’s assets off him with the same result.
Mea Culpa – I think the technical term for what’s happening at Sevco is “a horrible, jobby-flecked mess”. (thumbsup)
Mea Culpa on 20 July, 2012 at 14:09 said:
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BDO will not repo the assets as they are not undervalued. If anything, one thing Stan & Ollie got right was the value of mibbesmurray park and the tumbledome.
Both these assets have severe restrictions on future usage, one is desperately needing remedial maintenance carried out and the other can only be used for it’s current purpose.
Given that Chuckles is doing his best to p1ss in the soup whenever he has any dealings with authority, Bomber appears to be thrashing about like Frankenstein’s monster with piles, no-one is buying a season ticket and the former club’s players are sneaking out the back door, there is a greater chance of a panda getting his Nat King than there being any football being played at the batesdome.
Chuckster sells out, at a profit, natch, CW gets weighed in, hey presto a brand new franchise is launched in 13-14.
Who is covering Bomber’s tab?
Where is the Chuckster?
Whither Super Swally, and how big is his pay packet?
Have some former players received a tickle from Hector?
Folllllow the muuuuney!
DBBIA 1428
Hmmmm,reminds me of a scene from The Godfather-Sonny’s wife and her pals.
She may have wished she was hallucinating…..
khat ————–
Used to buy khat from a wee Ethiopian shop just off the Edgeware Road . It was ideal for staying up all night doing proofs for Mathematical Physics homework ..
Foul tasting stuff . Lovely green tongue effect.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS – How did you manage to contrive a tirade in favour of free-market economics from a simple reply to a question about a humanitarian disaster?
Not a tirade.
More like a sonnet.
We know that poverty is what makes starvation happen. So, if we want to end starvation, we need to get rid of poverty. Thankfully we have centuries of experience in this area, we already know what works and what doesn’t in making people richer.
That takes some doing,especially as it seems that the internal free market in The Yemen has driven food supplies away from TEN MILLION HUMAN BEINGS who need fed,to other parts of the country who can easily afford the prices.
No, it’s the market that creates the food in the first place. Without it, the world would not be able to sustain 6 billion people.
That’s the same sort of mentality which would be stupid enough to suggest that privatisation was a glorious shining success-which you did earlier in the week without providing any details to prove your opinion.
Privatisation has been a great success. Do you think BT, BA, etc. would provide a better service at better prices if they were still run by the State? (thumbsup)
Paul67,
I think this is a good draw for Celtic for a few reasons.
Any team that can crack in 7 goals in a CL qualifying game is to be fully respected. Celtic have struggled a bit with the burden of expectancy, we are a young team yes and not without our frailties. Our minds should be totally sharpened because this team has secured its passage in one game rather than the 2 usually required.
The travelling is very acceptable and we are going to a place that is not unlike our climate currently.
Their scoring times were as follows, 13, 20, 48, 57, 67, 78 and 83 minutes, that seems like a steady flow of pressure that got them their goals.
I would hope if we can get a typical performance we got from the lads that we usually got against that old defunct club at Celtic Park then we will head to Finland with at least a 2 goal cushion, which will be enough to secure our passage through, with an away win being an added bonus.
If we have a nervy first game and don’t go with a lead, I’m sure our experience from last season will be enough to get us over the line. I usually like playing home the 2nd game but on this occasion I am happy to be playing at home first.
Helsinki, it will be nice to meet you at the home of the Scottish champions.
Meet our finest – The Green Brigade The Orchestrator of the Whole of Celtic Park. Helsinki be AFRAID is all I will say because you will not know anything like what is going to hit you.
This Club is ready to Rock n Roll like never before.
DBBIA
Bit of trouble with the ol’ courgettes at this end. Some kinda fungal thing, althletes squash? Any ideas? I’ve already tried clotrimazole (ahem…)
SOUTH OF TUNIS 1426
Aye,bet he likes Carling Black Label wouldnae go down too well in TENNENT’S Bar-long time since I’ve been in there,mind.
I do know our former manager is no great fan of Kestrel though.
Maybe he should also ask for The Book of British Birds,by Charles Dikkens-that’s Dikkens with two k’s,the well-known Dutch author.
The Expurgated Version,without gannets or kestrels.
What was the name of that stuff TSD was talking about? I think someone just spiked my beer…..
Aftrenoon from a sunny Algarve,
Dissapointed to read that we will not be adding to the squad unless we reach the group stages of the CL.
For me we are in a great position to go the extra mile and sign the much needed centre half and forward that we are badley needing. I don’t think ‘speculate to accumulate’ is the correct term to use, I feel with the current richness of the squad we are in a position to spend a a few million safe in the knowledge if things don’t go according to plan we have very good assets that can be sold should we need to.
I feel, as ever, the club are being short sighted and far to coutious.
Hail Hail
TBB- me too; even in the ole greenhouse everything is sufferin’ from damp and lack of sunshine, the sorts of conditions in which all kind of ailments and contagions will prosper.
The whole vegetable patch is havin’ a bit of a Sevco this year.
hamiltontim on 20 July, 2012 at 13:59 said:
St stivs
A really lovely tribute, good on ye mate.
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Ditto. and thoughts & prayers with the Gallacher family at this time.
My Dear,Dear Philvis…
Congratulations ! It has become abundantly clear to me that you have converted BMCUWP to the ‘True Glories of Ethical Capitalism”.
Witness the non-football related articles he chooses to link in the early morning shift(invariably from the Daily Mail or the Telegraph),which frequently draw squeals of admonishment from The Mother Superior of the Gold Coast.
It has long been apparent to me that underneath the ludicrously thin veneer of leftie-ism,our good friend has a prim little ‘Outraged of Tunbridge Wells’,just screaming to get out….
Pinkety ?
CQN badge arrived this morning
How do i get a badge?
PHILVISRETURNS 1436
Unbelievable.
Some people starve so that the many may gorge.
Wha did they teach you at St. Aloysius?
I’ve heard some bad things about the Order,but never would they teach that.
As for BA,BT,I give you EVERY effin utility in the country,and I’ll throw in a bit of BR to boot. And that’s only because I can’t be bothered listing the failures of privatisation where it has adversely impacted on EVERYONE,rather than benefitted those who choose to use the service in question.
Nor the fact that they were parcelled up and sold at a pittance,I cannot be bothered.
You always argue your case with good humour,Philvis-I’ve always given you that,and I always enjoy your stuff.
Sometimes you have to man up and admit to being wrong now and again. Let the persona overtake the person. It happens.
I’ll leave it at that,I don’t want to ruin a long-held camaraderie.
You stick to your guns,mate. We’ll never change you.
DBBIA
You might very well have gotten me off the hook. The missus is blaming me for the massacre of the courgette flowers. Started them indoors, hundreds of flowers, she spent weeks refining recipes,the I papped them out for a bit of bee action and wallop. Pots of mulch inside a fortnight.
May was looking good for the Logans and the Blackberries, but similar story there with fruit rotting on the cane.
Blueberries indolent as always.
I might have to consider that I’m not very good at this gardening thing…
Traditionalist88
You are singing from the song sheet as me with regard to involving the World Wide Celtic support but the epicentre of the Celtic world is the centre spot at Celtic park and everything reverberates from there.
What I mean by that is everyone who has support for Celtic and the incredible ethos on which it is founded in their heart is a part of the world wide suppport. Some are lucky enough to attend in person, others for various reasons, geography, finance,health etc cannot do that but would willingly share the load of supporting if the mechanism existed to do so.
There has been a change in the development of the Membership Scheme but one that is so much in line with our ethos I welcome it warmly should it come into being.
I cannot say much more until the ins and outs are thought through and the green light given, which I hope will be sooner rather than later but be assured that your thinking very much resonates with those at Celtic looking at how to develop matters and the more folk in the wide Celtic world who buy into the concept that supporting Celtic is something all supporters can play a part in to not only share the load, but spread the charitable Celtic ethos out into a world that badly needs reminding that it is love that counts, not love of money.
‘crushed nuts?’ ‘Naw, Layringitis!’ on 20 July, 2012 at 14:32 said:
I disagree. I think the assets are massively undervalued at £5.5m
My question – why were they allowed to sit in the accounts of Oldco at £100m?
Who were the valuers? Who were the auditors?
Sadly, the reasons lie in the clusterf*** that was the Murray Group at the time of the ubiquitous ‘credit crunch’….reasons that Lloyds will not want answered in the public domain as it will make them look like dafties (technical term)
Saint Stivs on 20 July, 2012 at 13:52 said:
Excellent tribute. Quite excellent.
St Stivs
Very touching post on your good friend may he rest in peace
Regarding the Shammy in Greenock I worked with a guy who used to tell me some great stories from that era his name was Paddy Devlin don,t know if you know him or not
Big Mike post 1937 19th
Regarding the above post I noticed you live in Carlisle do you travel to the home games?
THE SINGING DETECTIVE
I regularly read and listen to the opinions of people who are not of the same political persuasion as myself.
It doesn’t make me a bad person.
The reply I was about to post before I thought better of it probably would……..
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 20 July, 2012 at 14:55 said:
Philvis is a graduate from the Andy Casey school of Economic free-thinking. Adam Smith and Karl Marx would have been footnotes in history had Andy been strutting his stuff at the same time.
And strut he did, through the pitch, en route to the huts, like a brought-to-life C&A mannequin, keys in hand, ready to lock the door should any errant pupil turn up 1 second too late….
Courgettes .
I have lots . I could do with some water . Anybody want to do an exchange ?.
No rain since early May CSC -Way down south.