I’m not convinced that any meeting of minds between Celtic and Legia Warsaw to allow the latter to take the place of the former in the Champions League play-off round would be recognised by Uefa. Having researched as thoroughly as possible, I’ve found no precedent for such an arrangement to be invoked.
It would, therefore, probably be safe for Celtic to take the high moral ground and acquiesce with Legia, but that would be a cheap shot at being generous, Celtic have no intentions of becoming involved, whether they have the opportunity or not.
The utter distress Legia are enduring because of an administrative oversight will cause untold damage. The club have to try everything possible, including an appeal which invokes Willie Maley and Jock Stein, but they must find a clear path through Uefa, which does not appear to exist.
What Celtic can do, is appeal to Uefa to have processes changed, just as we did in 1970 when we profited from the toss of a coin. Instead of clubs having the responsibility of checking available players, they could be issued with the same list the Uefa observer had on Wednesday, making this mistake less likely.
Current processes allow a minor infraction to cause disproportionate harm to a football club, and the tournament itself. Celtic should not hesitate in saying so.
Registration partially tightens tonight on player eligibility for our Champions League play-off round against NK Maribor. After today, clubs can only add one player to their squad for these games.
While it is important to get players in ahead of Maribor, I’m not convinced the arrivals will be able to have a transformational impact. It will largely be those already at Lennoxtown who will exorcise the demons of Murrayfield.
For what it’s worth, Maribor think they are absolute certainties to progress. Planning to analyse them in detail tomorrow; I’m not betting against them.
I was mystified as to how relegated Hearts managed to win away from home in their first game as a lower league club but now I’ve heard Ally McCoist blame the off-field input of Charles Green it all makes sense. How could any footballer reasonably expect to put in a shift with a former director speaking to the media some time earlier?
Delighted to hear the Daily Record swooped in to asset this as the reason for Newco Rangers demise yesterday. It’s the same deflection as went on during Murray/Whyte/Green years all over again. Why do they do this to themselves?
Let’s hope Ally sticks to his guns are clings to that contract like a fudge doughnut.
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Me!
Starting line up?
Its EUAFA rules….they do what they want…we have no input
In from the wing…
top 10? but no pole for me !
• Coolmore Mafia
11:40 on 11 August, 2014
I stand corrected on Tonev- we have a right to buy also. Sloppy posting. No disgrace failing to cut it in the EPL at 23.
The info that I got on Tonev…………………is
He’s on john parks wish list …………..
If true, then that’s good enough for me…………..
joelovesjohnPark
bournesouprecipe spent his holidays in France this summer.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuwJHqqIYAAPWxN.jpg
The only problem with rules is them not being adhered to then punishment not delivered.
A very detailed examination of the regulations and background to the Legia case …
http://transfersblog.com/1980,celtic-vs-legia-case-what-is-it-really-all-about
I think the only question we should be asking is…
why are we not investing in the playing squad?
or are we again putting that question on hold, till after Maribor now.
Great article, well said that man.
I’ve said before that as Celtic is a business they need to be held accountable to shareholders. Paul67 would it not be the case that stock market restrictions would prevent Celtic taking the moral high ground?
here you, your a defender, why didnt you get in position for their kick off, we only had to defend for 2 more minutes ………….
boss, i couldnt concentrate, i was justthining about charles green, and what would happen if he came back, and it was justtoo much for me …………
och allright then, that explains it.
AYRSHIRTIM
Ah,now I understand yer mail!
Was at the bar and having a blether. !BADA BING! and one or two others can testify to how long that can take.
Congrats on yer Gold Medal performance,old bean!
Believe Tonev will be a good signing. Adds some balance and pace to the team.
Paul67
Maribor think they are absolute certainties to progress. I am afraid after watching the current squad playing under the new manager I would have to agree with them.
Paul67
Disregarding the principles of the issue and the stupidity of the UEFA rules.
Does it actually matter that the player took to the field of play? Surely his inclusion in the squad was enough to see Legia punished under the current daft rules.
MWD says AYe
Paul 67. Maribors confidence could be the very thing that brings about there downfall I have seen as I am sure you have many times when Celtic were written off but came out as the winners.Maribor are no Barcelona yes they have to be respected but feared No. H.H.
Top 20
Garngad to Croy
Hopefully Ronny has learned from the 2 Legia games. The most important thing in Europe is not to concede.
We go into the first leg with that in mind. Anything else is a bonus.
Get them back here all square they will have a figfht on their hands.
LB
Let’s hope Ally sticks to his guns are clings to that contract like a fudge doughnut.
Paul……………………………………………67
Stop it please…………………………………………..
Nearly died laughing mate…………………
pissinghisselflaughing
So basically your saying Paul , is that with only one more player to be registered before the Maribor tie , our a PLC have indeed missed the boat for its 2nd chance at its failure to invest and here we are with about 12hrs to go before the window closes , once again scrambling about to find a goal scorer Poor poor poor planing
up_over_
mon dieu!!!!!!!!!
Paul67
Maybe not transformational but a couple of players on the park who can either defend, trap a ball effectively or score a goal out of nothing would be nice.
So many of the team from last week I’d be happy never to see in a celtic strip again.
Paul67
Have Sevco been asked to provide assurances that they can get to the end of the season without selling off Lee McCulloch’s silver elbows?
Is the home leg at CP?
There was some doubt about this.
Emdy?
Paul67,
Article 34 – Convocation, rights of the parties, hearings, decisions,
communications and confidentiality
5 If the requests of the parties and the ethics and disciplinary inspector are identical, the disciplinary bodies may consider ruling in accordance with those requests.
Quite clearly if Celtic thought there was an actual moral or ethical dilemma then paragraph 5 could have been invoked. Celtic clearly believe that an injustice was committed by Legia Warsaw and therefore saw no reason to become involved.
The narrative that this has nothing to do with Celtic and there is nothing Celtic could do about Big Bad UEFA standing firmly by their own rules is not true.
Celtic could have agreed to forfeit the tie and then it would have been at the discretion of UEFA disciplinary bodies to whom would then proceed.
Who is to say that UEFA would have ruled in Legia´s favour anyway ? Remember Rapid Vienna
HH
For what it’s worth, Maribor think they are absolute certainties to progress.
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Paul – how do you know all this stuff?!!?
Do the Maribor CEO and coaching staff go to your local beefeater, same as PL and DD?!?!
;-))
It’s like you’re a wee ‘Celic’ Austin Powers!!
HH jamesgang
bournesouprecipe
You have left the pen of your aunt in the garden – again.
LiviBhoy
I admire your optimism. I truly hope I am wrong !
Big wavy. I would be interested in which players you would book the taxi for ?
Depending on those already at Lennoxtown is highly unlikely to work IMO.
Great that CFC board and PL in particular are reassuring the fans of great times to come… Pity I missed that.
• Joe Filippis Haircut
12:25 on 11 August, 2014
Paul 67. Maribors confidence could be the very thing that brings about there downfall I have seen as I am sure you have many times when Celtic were written off but came out as the winners.Maribor are no Barcelona yes they have to be respected but feared No. H.H.
Great point mate…………………
Love being the underdog……………………………..
Just hope that Ronny can use that to our advantage………………………
PlaythegladiatorDVD
LiviBhoy
12:26 on
11 August, 2014
Garngad to Croy
Hopefully Ronny has learned from the 2 Legia games. The most important thing in Europe is not to concede.
yip, agree 100% , and sneak an away goal.
its no rocket science.
ronni be smart, dont go all naive again.
EMBRA MIKE 1222
Detailed,indeed!
Not a lot of room to manoeuvre either.
No alternative sanction is available in this case.
I said initially that Celtic should request that the ultimate sanction is not considered,but didn’t realise that options weren’t available.
Tell them to eff off,read the rules.
One of them is that cheats never win.
(Aye,I know that sometimes they get away with it)
The UEFA rules on suspended players appear to have been perfectly clear in dozens, if not hundreds, of other cases of suspended players. If anything this one case should ensure that other clubs act to ensure that they follow the rules to the letter in future.
Lets forget about laughing at Rangers,Forget about Legia and worry about Celtic
This is the weakest team we have had in 15 years,We are continually downsizing the playing staff and have a new manager who seems to be totally out of his depth
Garngad to Croy
Don;t know a lot about Maribor. On paper they appear to be a decent outfit though.
I will make a more solid judgement when I see them against us in the first match. We should go over there though with the intention of not conceding. After the last round the majority of work needs to be done on the defensive side of our game. Keep the opposition from scoring and the goals will come at the other end.
LB