I’m not convinced that any meeting of minds between Celtic and Legia Warsaw to allow the latter to take the place of the former in the Champions League play-off round would be recognised by Uefa. Having researched as thoroughly as possible, I’ve found no precedent for such an arrangement to be invoked.
It would, therefore, probably be safe for Celtic to take the high moral ground and acquiesce with Legia, but that would be a cheap shot at being generous, Celtic have no intentions of becoming involved, whether they have the opportunity or not.
The utter distress Legia are enduring because of an administrative oversight will cause untold damage. The club have to try everything possible, including an appeal which invokes Willie Maley and Jock Stein, but they must find a clear path through Uefa, which does not appear to exist.
What Celtic can do, is appeal to Uefa to have processes changed, just as we did in 1970 when we profited from the toss of a coin. Instead of clubs having the responsibility of checking available players, they could be issued with the same list the Uefa observer had on Wednesday, making this mistake less likely.
Current processes allow a minor infraction to cause disproportionate harm to a football club, and the tournament itself. Celtic should not hesitate in saying so.
Registration partially tightens tonight on player eligibility for our Champions League play-off round against NK Maribor. After today, clubs can only add one player to their squad for these games.
While it is important to get players in ahead of Maribor, I’m not convinced the arrivals will be able to have a transformational impact. It will largely be those already at Lennoxtown who will exorcise the demons of Murrayfield.
For what it’s worth, Maribor think they are absolute certainties to progress. Planning to analyse them in detail tomorrow; I’m not betting against them.
I was mystified as to how relegated Hearts managed to win away from home in their first game as a lower league club but now I’ve heard Ally McCoist blame the off-field input of Charles Green it all makes sense. How could any footballer reasonably expect to put in a shift with a former director speaking to the media some time earlier?
Delighted to hear the Daily Record swooped in to asset this as the reason for Newco Rangers demise yesterday. It’s the same deflection as went on during Murray/Whyte/Green years all over again. Why do they do this to themselves?
Let’s hope Ally sticks to his guns are clings to that contract like a fudge doughnut.
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Celtic could have agreed to forfeit the tie and then it would have been at the discretion of UEFA disciplinary bodies to whom would then proceed.
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What is this ? What grounds could celtic have forfeited ? We broke no rules !
” Maribor – – – – Planniing to analyse them in detail tomorrow ”
Agim Ibraimi
Wide midfield / winger .
Can play on either wing : Spent last season on loan at Cagliari .Quick , good technique . A very good player .
WHAT IS THE STARS
20 years,IMO.
But let’s not quibble. At least there was a reason for Lou Macari’s team being rank.
We were skint.
We are not skint now.
It seems the easiest thing to build an electronic process for the registration of squads and players for a Euro tie.
Each club uploads its squad for the match. UEFA verifies that each player is eligible to play from a central database and returns a confirmation to the club, identifying situations like Legia tripped over.
Each club then submits a signed statement to UEFA that its players do not have side contracts which have not been registered…………..Oh, sorry………may be a problem with my idea.
Just forget about it.
Garngad to Croy
With that defeatist attitude, you are more Croy than Garngad 0:-)
JJ
PS I was born in the Garngad
PPS Have you seen maribor play recently?
Bobby. Approx 20m cash in bank defo not skint
An Dun
I agree. If a team is awarded a penalty that is proved later to be incorrectly given do the team who benefitted forfeit the game?
Absloute nonsense from the Poles. They blew it.
Players are suspended all the time and it is clear everyone else knows the rules. They are spewing because they made a daft mistake but it’s like turning up without your kit. Everyone knows you have to bring it. You are not forewarned to remember!
LB
Livibhoy
Keep the opposition from scoring and the goals will come at the other end.
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‘Not necessarily’, as Blackadder would say!
We so desperately need a spark of invention as well mhate. We relied so heavily on Commons last season. We knew that then. Boy do we know it now!
As despite it all, I’m still hoping for success over 2 legs. But that’s me.
HH jamesgang
An Dun
12:34 on
11 August, 2014
Yes I agree we broke no rules.
But we got whipped fair and square
HH
Legia weren’t thrown out because of a administration error against Celtic, they have been kicked out for fielding a SUSPENDED player against Celtic.
TD67
Tony cheers, got your message. Jinky got hold of my da to tell him about the jacket. Though it was a gonner.
hh
Celtic have to much to lose by giving way to Legia Warsaws bullying if we were to agree to allow the poles to continue in the CL at our expense that would mean we would face a qualifying round for the EL and if we lost we would also lose another 6 European games this season.With the all the money lost as well can you see big Peter agreeing to that ? nope niether can i. H.H.
I hope RD is doing his homework on Maribor.
Could suit us that they are so confident.
But then again, they are confident with good reason.
It really is a turning point for us.
If this get out of jail card is squandered, and the PLC don’t get their finger out regards players, it wont be a nice experience for them being on the receiving end of the anger.
They cant say, that they didn’t see the warning signs.
There may be trouble ahead.
HH
hrvatski jim @ 12.37
That is ‘geniusly funny’ mhate.
You should punt this to some MSM hack who’ll jump on to the first element before noticing the historical sting in the tail/tale!
HH jamesgang
I wonder if one of the players with the possibility for what Paul calls “transformational impact” (given our budget and ability to attract genuinely CL-class players) is Samaras.
No fee, knows the club, been through tough qualifiers before, settled in Glasgow, will be hungry, proven (if sporadically) at this level………..it will divide opinion but it’s a gamble I would take.
Hail Hail.
celtic are not directly involved in the dispute between uefa and the polish cheats
we will only become directly involved if some party requests we become involved and we agree to it
LW and uefa are directly involved, its a dispute between them, we have too much to worry about to become involved in someone elses fight
stay out it celtic
Hun skelper. What is also not said is that they has a full squad to choose against st pats. They really should have registered the suspended player then kept him out, thus reducing their squad , which gave them an unfair advantage. Not a big one
ps.
I dont know what this “high energy football” concept is.
lets just play for a non-negative result.
will be interesting for wednesday.
should the new guy, and the other loanee be in the team ?
pps, see al our not so good fringe players, brought in at expense, if we cant offload them,can we not just give them all to hibs for a season.
or falkirk.
or spread out whole acadame around that league.
What is the Stars @ 12:34
Shhhhhhh! Don’t tell anyone. It’s not only Celtic fans who read this site.
Silly bhoy.
MWD says AYE
Celtic have until 11pm UK time to bring in players (plural) for this tie.
After that they can get one wildcard.
The clock is ticking.
It would appear one player is coming in Tonev.
Rumours continue about Sami comin back.
If I were RD I would be getting in a defender or a defensive midfielder to make sure there is no repeat of Warsaw.
Assume hertz are blanking calls from Weedgie ville today in anticipation of Sally calling to ask if they’d consider asking the SFA to allow them to retake the kick off cos their wee full back wasn’t ready?!?!
Neck on him he’d reverse the charges too……
HH jamesgang
What is the Stars
Lets forget about laughing at Rangers,Forget about Legia and worry about Celtic
This is the weakest team we have had in 15 years,We are continually downsizing the playing staff and have a new manager who seems to be totally out of his depth
I agree, but I have seen no alternative solution from the rebels on here beyond “Capitalist scum! Giiz yer money!”
Celtic have a weak team but, as you imply, it’s been and could get weaker. Scottish football has become a barren place since Sky rocketed the EPL clubs’ revenue.
The board’s solution was buy low/sell high, using a well-funded scouting system. That seems to have worked initially, but appears to have hit the buffers. It could be that other clubs have cottoned onto Celtic’s strategy and made it more difficult for us to snap up bargains? Or perhaps we need to find new scouts.
What we don’t need is to throw away more money, especially as we have a young, relatively inexperienced manager in charge who came to Celtic on a ticket of developing talent rather than acquiring it ready-made.
If PL and the board agreed to forfeit anything to the rulebreakers it would be their heads and nether regions that would be getting hoisted up the flagpole on Sat.
IMHO of course.
Scott Brown was involved in training sessions this week. It would be excellent if he was ready for the second leg against the suddenly Mighty Maribor.
JJ
First time post.
Did Legia get “thrown out” or would they still be in if they had won the first leg 4-0?
I thought they only forfieted the return leg.
Paul67
sorry mate couldnae give a toss
About legia
What are football officials for
They cheated
Anyway how come we are not
Signing many new replacements
We’ve got plenty cash apparently
Sammi signs for a second time for Celtic…………….
now thats a headline ………….inmaheidonlycfc
braw
“Polish cheats” Get a grip man.
Just imagine!
How many laon deals we could afford if we didn’t have a potential Euro Group to look forward to and £8M banked from FF sale. We’d be looking at errrmmmmm! None.
Woop! Woop! We are in it to win it. It’s so obvious.
MWD says AYE but who’d you buy if you had £5M? go on tell us? I keep asking but yeez canny answer cause yeez urny corporate types and don’t have a scooby doo!
sydneytim
12:43 on 11 August, 2014
Correct, he was registered correctly for the Celtic tie , if there is a problem with paper work it was on the St Pats tie nothing to with getting kick out against us. HH
So having gambled with no significant signings for the Legia tie and losing (only to be handed a get out of jail free card), we are about to do the exact same again for the Maribor tie. Unless PL knows that Maribor will make an administrative error on their team sheets, why doesn’t he and his wonder-scout go get the manager the striker we so obviously need?
The incompetence at the club becomes more and more apparent with each passing day.
Legia were not ‘thrown out’. Their aggregate score was simply insufficient to progress.
saint stivs
Do you really want to give the Deid team an advantage by giving their opponents Balde , derk and pukki
Someone fecks up at Legia, and they want to blame Celtic.
Spurred on by the hun media, they pen an insulting open letter.
What planet are they on.
They want to hold us responsible for their mistakes, talk about a brass neck.
Anyway, for what its worth….I believe we can beat Maribor, they underestimate us at their peril.
Sure, we were dire against Legia, some chucked it.
However, we do have good players, they just need their A***** booted.
Lazy beer swilling aint cutting it for this Celtic team, we shouldn’t tolerate a drinking culture by our players.
Sober up, or ship out.
HH
springfieldbhoy
12:47 on
11 August, 2014
They forfeited the second leg so we were awarded a 3-0 win. Had they scored one of their two missed penalties at home and beat us 5-1 they would have went through 5-4 on aggregate
Sydney
Mulgrew
Kayal
Derk
Amido
Pukki
Stokes
Griffiths
…for starters….Commons I like but he won’t make the new regime.
Disagree with you Paul. Celtic Fc should not make any other comment on the matter other than to follow the instruction of UEFA.
To say I could be shocked at the bile that has arrisen from our media ‘friends’ is untrue howeever, still incredible the level of misrepresentation applied to this event.
Only watched the second half of the Rangers Internation FC game yesterday and for the sencond time in a week they were out passed and second to everything.
Maribor will be confident much will rest on the attitude taken by us in the first game with the return at Celtic Park we can beat anyone with the fans backing.
Welcome to the new Bulgarian and wish him all the best.
Yes to a Samaras return (should never have left).
Roll on Wednesday night!
HH
Gary67. Is it incompetence or a well constructed plan ? H.H.