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Charlotte is still lifting her skirts to give us a view of the many treasures that she has tucked away.
Wish she would give us just one full on minge shot.
What kind of crowd at the game today?
Proff..,
I’d imagine mostly Celtic supporters :o)
Ballachulish beating Lochcarron by two goals to one with five minutes left of extra time to go.
Canamalar
Good-looking, salt of earth types?
Make that three goals to one now.All over bar the shouting.
A Stor Mo Chroi
18:09 on 27 July, 2013
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What I can’t understand is – why take the easy / soft option and ban Hugh Keevins for a slap on the wrist offence ?
Yet – The BBC duo knowing fine well what they were doing and to a worldwide audience
are to this day – smuggly laughin up their cuffs at us while they continue to offer us nothing but needle. So – why no ban ?
My understanding of the situation or indeed my observation is that – the SMSM are well aware that the Celtic bored are a collective house of cards who will not – under any circumstances, fight the fans corner. imo
The way to deal with the BBC was to fight Fire wi Fire – wait until they wanted to interview the manager live on air – only for Neil to say “…could you hold on a minute, I’ve got someone here who wants a word…” – stage set for PL to walk in take the mic and say – “…on behalf of the fans / shareholders / management / players and ALL employees of Celtic FC I would just like to inform the BBC Scotland that from this moment forward – you will be afforded NO media facilities at this ground and any breach of contract will be compensated by remuneration of the effected cost by the club. That is all – goodbye BBC.”
– and hand over the mic and escort the BBC bassa off the premises. Simples !!!
HH
I canny believe people getting worked up about another friendy,did they really expect a first 11 giving it 100%,i have yet to see any friendly this month where that is the case
Professor
Hard to gauge the size of crowd as almost all stands had punters in but plenty empty seats…. I would guess maybe 13, 000 .
Borrussia had a decent crowd with them and pretty noisy too
Oh! and I did learn that I have no expectations of Tony Watt , good kid as he is, I think he is one dimensional,and I am gutted that Dylan McGeoch appears to be intimidated by percentage coaching. Please God let Twardzik have faith and conviction.
FFS if I wanted percentage sport I’d watch tennis or golf. How the feck did Celtic ever win the European Cup.
I always wonder this… who coached PELE? Who coached Jimmy Johnstone?
Don’t know what to make of the game. I thought the young lhads looked overawed. Maybe I’m being too harsh. Apart from Joe Ledley, Charlie Mulgrew, young Mathews and Zaluska getting on to the pitch, there wasn’t too much to get excited about. Oh, Stokes scored a good goal. I thought their 23 was the man of the match. A football player…
KevJungle:
Keevins? What else did he do that you don’t know about? That I don’t know about?
So Celtic banned him. He is a family man, he has obligations, if Celtic are so right in their determination of the man, they should make their reservations public.
To do anything else is to swim against our ethos.
Right bhoys off to the son and his girlfrends new flat for a Mexican meal and loads of Tequila and Rum. Try and not fall out tonight, remember we are all Tims.
Catch up later or tomorrow.
KTF
HH
the boy jinky
13k? That’s a poor crowd for a freebie against a decent name. Especially a Saturday afternoon, sun splitting the sky.
That game must have cost a small fortune to stage. Germans fee, stewarding ect.
Big indicator that these games should be played behind closed doors
Darnell Fischer a player.
Anymore on finnboggason?
A Stor Mo Chroi
18:34 on 27 July, 2013
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Exactly M8 – Well said.
Out of all the SMSM – only two that I detect has a Celtic fan buried inside that shines through
now and again – Hugh Keevins and David Currie. imo
HH
KevJungle,
still trying to promote your auld pal Shug as a Celtic supporter,maybe in his day he was,but certainly he aint now
KevJungle
18:26 on
27 July, 2013
You’re spot on Kevj…….bbc Scotland is no
friend of Celtic……never has been…….riddled
with highland son’s of William.
neganon2. I asked you last night about why You thought Dermot d stayed at celtic. You replied money. In another post you stated he made half a million a year on his investment. I then asked you to elaborate as I believed he could make much more elsewhere and he did not appear to court the limelight. I ask again , if he is a billionaire why would he waste his effort for a 0.05% increase in his wealth assuming that is a minimum of £1bn. Now I am no accountant but that does not seem like a low return (assuming the 1/2 million a year is true) if his only motive for being at the club is, as you say money. I don’t really trust him (no one gains that amount of wealth through business by being a boy scout) but there has to be more in for him than just monetary gain.
gordybhoy64
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He is but – no allowed to show as retirement nears. imo
valentinesday
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Too true M8 – btw, nae bombs the night :)
HH
WGS 18:37 on 27 July, 2013
have to agree with that young Darnell Fischer looks like he would have a chance seems very comfortable most of the game and defended well (one to watch)
cant think of any other young bhoys that done themselves justice. watt, as I have said so often before, is one dimensional, rarely holds on to the ball and when he does get the better of his man he tends to make the wrong decision (he has time on his side. mcgeogh, on the other hand needs to start making an impression or he’ll no be around much longer
HH
I wonder if its in the public interest to ask through a Freedom of Information request about the discussion with Media House on the 16/5/11 in relation to how the publicly funded BBC are lobbied by external agencies- I think I will
Some quick points :
Jack Irvine has worked tirelessly against our club. No real attack from our Board ESP Dermot and Pedro. Pedros style of manoeuvring in the back has probably helped.With the evidence of Charolette Celtic should play ; this guy is embarrassed as it is putting Media House at risk ; the Sunday Times editor is even being dragged in now by his name dropping in emails. I wish Fergus was here to take he necessary steps as Pedros smooth approach is not what is required here. With Jack Irvine you go for the jugular and take him out.
On the Team it’s a joke that we have no striker. Pedro sort it out because if we fail to make the CL and you cost us 20 mil , I would sack you. In a business that turns over circa 60 mil and to miss 30 % revenue is criminal. In every other business you would be toast for failing in one strategic task…ie for not signing a replacement before you sold the top goalscorer …who you knew was leaving.
Also I hear today that we have sold just over 30k season tickets , approx 10k down on last season. If we fail to make the CL the average Celtic park crowd will be 25k with several thousand staying away. Pedro the manager is operating with one hand tied behind his back. Of course before he qualifier he will talk up the team and crowd, privately he will be gutted at he lack of support. I suspect he knew it was coming and that’s why he had his agent stick his name in for the Everton job.
Pedro the activity in the next 48 hours may help the CL qualification, maybe it’s too late. If we fail to qualify you should walk as you have done as much as the SFA to hamper us this pre season.
Ps. Good evening to the happy clappers with the blinkers on …or Pedro apologists.
Ooooofffffttttt ! Rebels very fortunate today against a plucky Gallway !
Corcaigh need to get their act together for next week !
As for the hoops reserves today a good exercise against excellent opponents !
Bring on Abbas boys !
listenin to talk sport just now and the presenter is trying to stick it to us re the attendance today. he wants an exact attendance.
DD told Cellic fans that – if they wurny happy wi his stewardship of the club and kept on demanding signings be made then they should go and jump in the river !
DD also said earlier this year that – Rankers were amagnificent football club with a great tradition and that, the sooner that they were back in the SPL where they belong – the better Scottish football would be !!!
I heard today we had sold 49,000 season tickets. anyone know the true figure?
Proff..,
Mostly :o)
Kevj..,
Up until the brentford game I gave keevins the benefit of the doubt but his snipe implying the support had sung the songs about the young soldier slaughtered in woolich a slur preceding both the pubs opening and the match begun but reported to be sung in pubs and at the game on twitter but hun, started by media house was the last straw for me, he’s scum end of.
Latchford
Correct Irvine is on the ropes ..he needs knocked to the ground and giving a good booting …no one at CFC will do this ..
Thought the BMG No. 25 was a class act, the type of player I’d love to see in the hoops. Just checked, he’s a 19 year old kid, Amin Younes, nearly 50 appearances for BMG and their B team, Watt & McGeouch just about reach that between them (including Tony’s Airdrie appearances).
The young bhoys need game time, if they’re not getting it with us they need to go out on loan.
canamalar1
18:51 on 27 July, 2013
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The song was sung in the pubs.
Catholic child abuse in proportion
Many Catholic priests and religious have abused children in their care. But is the church’s record worse than the world’s?
There seems to be no end to the scandals buffeting the Roman Catholic church about the abuse of children; most recently in Germany, where the headmaster a school associated with a choir once run by the pope’s elder brother Georg Ratzinger has been exposed as an abuser. And there is no doubt that a lot of children were damaged for life by priests, and that this was mostly covered up by the hierarchy until recently. But was the Catholic church unfairly singled out? Aren’t all children vulnerable to exploitation, especially when they are poor and unwanted?
These questions lead into a thicket of horror. The most detailed statistics on child abuse for the Catholic clergy that I can find come from the John Jay Institute’s report drawn up for the American Catholic bishops’ conference. From this it emerges that the frequency of child abuse among Catholic priests is not remarkable but its pattern is. Although there are no figures for the number of abusers in the wider population, there are figure for the number of victims. These vary wildly: the most pessimistic survey finds that 27% of American women and 16% of men had “a history of childhood sexual abuse”; while the the most optimistic had 12.8% of women and 4.3% of men. Obviously a great deal depends here on the definition of abuse; also on the definition of “childhood”. In some of these surveys it runs up to 18, which is a couple of years above the age of consent in Britain.
The Catholic figures show that between about 4% of priests and deacons serving in the US between 1950 and 2002 had been accused of sexual abuse of someone under 18. In this country, the figure was a 10th of that: 0.4% But whereas the victims in the general population are overwhelmingly female, the pattern among American Catholic priests was quite different. Four out of five of their victims were male. Most were adolescents: two out of five were 14 or over; 15% were under 10.
This is vile, but whether it is more vile than the record of any other profession is not obvious. The concentration on boys makes the Catholic pattern of abuse stand out; what makes it so shocking is that parents trusted their children with priests. They stood in for the parents. But this isn’t all that different from the pattern in the wider world, either, where the vast majority of abuse comes from within families. The other point that makes the Catholic abuse is that it is nowadays very widely reported. It may be the best reported crime in the world: that, too tends to skew perceptions.
There are, however, some fragments of figures from the outside world suggesting that not many professions do better. Last year, it was reported that half of the girls fostered in social democratic Sweden in the 50s and 60s had been abused; according to Camila Batmanghelidjh 550,000 children are reported to the social services in this country every year.
So why the concentration on Catholic priests and brothers? Perhaps I am unduly cynical, but I believe that all institutions attempt to cover up institutional wrongdoing although the Roman Catholic church has had a higher opinion of itself than most, and thus a greater tendency to lie about these things. Because it is an extremely authoritarian institution at least within the hierarchy, it is also one where there were few checks and balances on the misbehaviour of the powerful. The scandal has been loudest and most damaging in Ireland, because it came along just at the moment when the church was losing its power over society at large, and where it was no longer able to cover up what had happened, but still willing to try. Much the same is true in the diocese of Boston which was bankrupted by the scandal.
It doesn’t seem to be true, though, that this was a problem spread by Irish priests around the world, as some traditionalists have argued. Certainly, the geographical spread across the US was fairly even, and not concentrated in areas of high Irish settlement and tradition. But in Ireland the state was happy to hand over the problem of unwanted children to the church.
Certainly the safeguards against paedophilia in the priesthood are now among the tightest in the world. That won’t stop a steady trickle of scandals; but I think that objectively your child is less likely to be abused by a Catholic or Anglican priest in the west today than by the members of almost any other profession.
Parkhead
Same here. Apart from young Fisher ,the rest of the young team (Waters Henderson
Mc gregor Herron looked lost at times really bad positioning, and decision making.Oh well youth and all that I suppose learning their trade.The germans impressed with slick passing I felt, and only gave the ball away a handful of times in the whole of the game.
Hats off to the GB for their vocals, the poor old drummer must never see any action Ha Ha. Oh and a mention also for the youngster sitting behind the Kano bhoys when he tooted that green horn of his the first time, everybody jumped lol. A day in the sunshine in paradise cannae beat it.HH
Foxy_1888
18:48 on 27 July, 2013
Talksport is the radio equivalent of the EDL or UKIP
Drambowiecelt
18:55 on 27 July, 2013
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Maybe the drummer has the best seat in the place :)
HH
I thought young Herron had a good first half. He was going deep and demanding the ball then driving forward to try and make things happen. Second half played a lot deeper and looked a bit lost. I thought he was a forward.
Kevj..,
Says who ?
How’s this
Hi, I would like to make a request under the Freedom of Information legislation around the subject of the power of external lobbying on the BBC, a matter that I think is of interest to the public. The Charlotte Fakes website has just released materials that suggest the PR company “Media House” who had been employed by the now liquidated Rangers Football Club, held a meeting with BBC officials on the 16/5/11 in order to brief the BBC on how to frame identification of Pro- IRA songs, presumably from the supporters of Celtic FC (two BBC employees later suggested live on TV that Celtic supporters were singing such songs). I feel the public should know the following
1. Did this meeting take place
2. Who instigated the meeting and why
3. Who within the BBC took the decision to take advice from a company heavily connected with sections of Scottish football
4. Did this meeting influence BBC policy on identification of what they defined as sectarian singing- especially on the statements made by the two BBC employees (Rob McLean and Pat Nevin)
5 Is it normal practice for the BBC to take direction from PR companies in this way