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South of Tunis
Yes it’s a bit cooler up here compared to Sicilia.
33 in La Spezia currently – humidity about 80% ‘tho.
Buone vacanze!
HH!!
MWD if you are reading could you drop me an e-mail.
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A Stor Mo Chroi
12:03 on
28 July, 2013
Could somebody please tell me who all the huns are on here? Please.
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I’m Not 100% sure but l think l am One..
But only till l make My First Holy Communion next Year with My Wee Ghirl..
or So l have been led to Believe..
Summa
Off oot —-to France —– but before I go ——
Not all of the BBC’s work is covered by the Freedom of Information Act.
The Guardian’s Kevin McKenna gives us “financial liquidation”:
“The fate of their fierce city rivals, Glasgow Rangers, who went into financial liquidation last year and are currently trying to fight their way back to the top through Scotland’s lower divisions, has left Celtic marooned.”
Ernie Lynch
It is because of the reasoning in my post that I do not know perfectly well, which means I have a different core belief based on reasons that you have not argued against.
You demonstrate my very point in your response. Its up to you whether you examine your core belief or not and it is that belief that sets your default position which you think I must hold and what I said is not what I think.
Do I think that DD or PL or anyone at Celtic has not made mistakes? Of course I don’t but I do not give those mistakes the meaning that some do because my reasoning tells me the meanings applied are illogical and unreasonable and come from somewhere other than reason.
001:
I’ve never associated religion with hun.
If it’s not too personal… Are you really making your First Communion?
last lap of Ken Burns ,Civil War on PBS just now , after many hours I am trying to perfect a Shelby Foote cultured Southern accent. What a body of work this is.
auldheid
12:26 on 28 July, 2013
My thoughts entirely….
Satanic secrets of the Orange
Order
Ex-loyalist insider Peter Malcomson
claims witchcraft lies at the root of
Unionist rituals, reports Henry McDonald
Northern Ireland: special report
A former Orangeman who accuses his
order of ‘satanic and pagan rituals’ is
bringing his crusade to Scotland.
Paul Malcomson has been campaigning
in Northern Ireland to persuade
fundamentalists in the Orange Order to
throw away their sashes and bowler
hats. A born-again Christian Loyalist, he
now poses a bigger threat to the
Protestant organisation than the fiercest
nationalist residents’ groups.
Malcomson recently published a book,
Behind Closed Doors, which claims to lift
the lid on the Orange Order, which
claims 80,000 members in Scotland.
He hopes the book will have a similar
effect on the reputation of the Orange
Order as The Brotherhood did on the
reputation of the masons. This weekend
the 38-year-old author also launched a
website – http://www.evangelicaltruth.org.uk –
to warn Christians about the dangers of
Orangeism.
Speaking from his home in Banbridge,
Co. Down – an area with a strong Orange
tradition – Malcomson explained why he
had turned so vehemently against the
order.
‘Eight years ago my father, who was an
Elim Pentecostal minister, died. After his
death I decided to take stock of my life, to
look at the way I was living. At the time
I was in the Orange Order and a member
of a local flute band. Simultaneously I
became a born-again Christian and
started to question my views and in
particular why I was an Orangeman.
‘The more I read the more I became
concerned at the rituals and practices
inside the order. The whole secrecy
aspect of Orangeism started to worry me
deeply because Christ worked openly and
preached an open Gospel. The secret
oaths of Orangeism, the exclusion of
women from certain grades, the
exclusivity, made me think that they
were violating the word of God.’
Malcomson was concerned most about
the rituals of the Royal Arch Purple, an
elite branch of Orangeism of which he
was once a member. He noticed a
similarity between the rites of the Royal
Arch Purple and Freemasonry, including
several bizarre practices he later
revealed in his book. These included:
Blindfolding a new recruit and making
him kneel on a mock coffin while vowing
to destroy his own life if he divulges the
teachings of the order;
Tying a rope around the neck of the
recruit, who, as in Freemasonry, has
most of his clothes and one shoe taken
from him and has a purple ribbon
fastened to his shirt;
Riding the goat – a ritual in which the
blindfolded initiate is wrapped in a
canvas sheet and then kicked and tossed
about by the assembled members of the
Order;
Beating the candidate across the legs
with brambles and, in some cases, holly
to the accompaniment of laughter and
even goat-like bleatings.
Malcomson believes these rituals have
their roots in witchcraft rather than
Protestantism.
‘The Orange Order says it is the defender
of the Protestant faith but these secret
oaths and strange rituals are more to do
with paganism and are ultimately
satanic. I want to inform Evangelical
Christians that their faith is incompatible
with membership of an order that
tolerates organisations like the Arch
Purple.’
Malcomson claims that hundreds of
born-again Christians have left the Order
since his book was launched this year.
He is unapologetic that his campaign
may speed the decline of the already
embattled order, which is still reeling
from blows to its reputation arising from
violence at Drumcree in recent years.
‘I know that I can cause them more
damage than the likes of Brendan
McKenna could ever do but that’s been
my calling for the last seven years and
it’s going to continue.’
Cecil Kilpatrick, author of a book about
King William of Orange and a member of
the Royal Arch Purple, said that he
provided research material for
Malcomson’s book.
‘If we were such a secretive organisation
then why did we give him so many
documents so he could write his book?
The trouble with Paul is that instead of
seeing reds under every bed, he sees
devils everywhere.’
George Patton, the spokesman for the
Grand Orange Lodge of Ireland, said
Malcomson was reading too much into
the institution’s symbolism.
‘He complains about the use of the
symbol of a ladder but I see that as
representing Jacob’s ladder in the bible
while he sees it as coming from
witchcraft,’ Patton said. ‘He has got
carried away with the importance of the
rituals and the symbols.’
After his campaign in Scotland,
Malcomson plans to write a book on the
Royal Black Preceptory, the most elite of
all the Protestant marching institutions.
‘It’s going to be even more explosive than
the last one,’ he said.
Hi All
Kilbowie kelt, I agree far too much negativity. Too many moaners, was at the game yesterday with my Bhoy. Good run out for the youngsters against a very good German team.
I just felt lucky to be there and lucky I only live only 20 mins from Paradise.
My bhoy will most likely be on the bench against the Sevconians today . Grandson of ex Celt Charlie McGinley of Clydebank. Wish him all the best, just heading off to Livingston shortly and hoping for a wee miracle.
Hail hail all fellow tims. No Huns allowed hahahahaah
Auldheid
Your “take” on DDs statement …is convenient nonsense
It’s a verbatim quote ….it is what he said
It’s is ridiculously out of step with the vast majority of CFC fans
Unfortunately , it explains much of our inaction re the Hun sham
ernie lynch
is that what you’re asking me?
cause i certainly didnt say that,i was merely making a brief statement our club was poorly run at the 67time and was not near the business it is today,without business men and woman our club probibly wouldnt exist. mon era would have killed our club if it kept going in that direction of spending..as for players well our young ones in the last few years seem to be the best around and the club have invested heavily in a larger scouting system to try and catch the wanyamas of football.the jaiket down for goalpost days are gone for many reasons as for my reasons why i love Celtic its actualy none of the above h.h
Members of the OO are Satanists?!
I knew it!
HH!!
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AStor..
Yes l am..
I Started taking Instructions when l was 17yrs..I Got Christened 27yrs Later with My Wee Ghirl 7yrs ago..
Like everything l do..I do it Slowly..but at least I’m on the Correct road..
Summa
Ps..My Dad who probably 100% on here would call a H*n would drive me up to Cleland every Wednesday for Instructions..
Paddybhoy1888
Good luck to you and your bhoy today……
Kikinthenakas
ASonOfDan
12:32 on
28 July, 2013
How ridiculous are these roasters :))
After DD gave an interview with the CSA which was then subsequently misreported in the press mainly by one Daryl Broadfoot Dermot Desmond has been reluctant to speak with any of the Scottish media as seen here in his response to the reaction of the media to his CSA interview
To all Celtic Fans:
I gave an honest interview to the Celtic Supporters Association on 14
November 2005 without any preconditions. I referred in my interview to the
unbalanced coverage that Celtic gets in certain sections of the Scottish
Press; that the Scottish Press like to create trouble within Celtic; that
there would be some form of distortion in the media coverage of my
interview; that the papers would find something to create a division
between myself and the fans. Unfortunately I was proved right. Anyone who
has taken the trouble to read the interview in full will realise how my
comments were taken out of context and distorted.
When I have criticised the press before, they retort by saying I should
engage with them and give interviews. The unbalanced coverage of my latest
interview shows that the press will print what they like, regardless of
whether you provide them with material or not.
I will be making complaints against individual journalists and their
papers including:
James Traynor, Scottish Daily Record
Gerry McNee, Scottish News of the World
Andy McInnes, Daily Star Scotland and Scottish Daily Express
Tosh McKinlay, Glasgow Evening Times
Roddy Forsyth, Ireland on Sunday
Ally Guthrie, Irish Daily Star
The BBC agreed to amend its website to provide a link to the full
interview, rather than just setting out some quotes.
I am now going to clarify what actually was discussed during my interview.
The main comment which has been latched onto by the press is that I am
accused of saying that Celtic fans are ignorant. I never said that Celtic
fans are ignorant per se. What I did say was that it was ignorant for the
fans to say that all the problems are resolved by me putting money into
the Club, that will never be the case; I said that most of the fans are
not financially astute, that the fans have never looked at a balance sheet
and a profit and loss statement. How you the supporters spend your money
is purely your decision. In the same way that I respect your choice,
supporters should respect that I have the same choice as to how I spend my
money.
I note that there was no rush by the Scottish Press to publish the
positive comments I made about the Celtic fans: how I said we had a good
fan base and that “My message would be to continue to be the best
supporters in the world. It would be for everyone to work as a team and
not to seek division or see it as them and us, we’re all working
together.” I commented on seeing all the Celtic supporters in Seville and
their behaviour and seeing the goodwill and the dignity in which the
Celtic fans wore the green and white, and how that was a matter of pride
for me and also pride in the performance of the team.
As I said in my interview, I am passionate about Celtic succeeding. I said
that we have looked at avenues to develop Celtic through the European
Commission, into the English Premier League and we continue to do that. We
are looking at all of the options for the Club, we have never stopped. I
also said “What matters to a Club in my personal view is that its
traditions are maintained, that its development is maintained, and it
recognises all its constituents because constituents at a football club
are the supporters, the players, the manager, staff and the directors”.
I will repeat what I said at the end of my interview: “Everything that I
have done with the Board at the Club has been to bring Celtic to the
pinnacle, that’s our goal. We’ve never compromised on our goal. Everything
we do is to make Celtic independent, flourishing and the most successful
football club in the world”.
Finally I would like to open a debate with you about the journalists who
have consistently failed to give balanced coverage of Celtic in the media
and who have sought to create divisions within the Club. Do you think they
should be banned from Celtic Park? Do you think Celtic Fans should
continue to buy such papers?
I would like to thank the Celtic fans who have taken the time to read the
interview thoroughly and welcome your honest opinions, whether good or
bad.
Dermot F. Desmond
Has Livingston been razed to the ground yet?
HH!!
Talk of Tony Mowbray earlier.
Any retrospective of TMs time at Celtic that doesnt aknowledge the fact that he was manager during “The year of the Honest Mistake” is seriously flawed.
TM was simply not able to cope with the blatant cheating that was going on around him. I dont know if his “take it on the chin” comments were the result of his failure to recognise what was happening in front of his eyes or him biting his tongue because he could.
The end result though was that both team and management could never build up any kind of momentum. Any semplence of confidence went right out the window to the point that the St Mirren result was inevitable.
The huns might have had a good laugh but they were greedy.
Jut like the extra extra injury time against Killmarnock the Honest Mistakes were way OTT.
So we brought in a man who wouldnt be bullied.The huns bogey man.
Step forward Neil Lennon.
The huns havvent laughed since
A poignant wee read from the Blogosphere…
Don’t Let it Be Forgot
SUNDAY, 28 JULY 2013
Do unto others…
Brendan Behan, writer, poet, drinker and Irish Rebel used to say that the first item on the agenda at every meeting of the Dublin IRA was ‘the split.’ He may have been joking but there is a certain argumentative side to those who have Irish blood in their veins. This weekend was not a pleasure on Twitter as a minority engaged in fairly acrimonious debate about issues affecting the Celtic support. As Celtic supporters, each of us has the right to an opinion on the club and the issues surrounding it. It matters not a jot if we go to every game or for whatever reason can’t manage to go to any. If we love the green then we are Celtic Supporters, the equal of any other. Celtic means so much to so many that at times passions can spill over into angry words. Didier Agathe once said after a section of a tetchy home support booed Neil Lennon after he passed the ball back to the keeper when we needed a goal in a European tie… ‘The problem is not that they dislike any player, it is that they love the club too much.’ Sometimes this passion for the club can make us hold strong positions on certain issues. For some Celtic is the repository of Irish identity in a hostile land, for others it is a bridge between cultures which aided Irish assimilation into Scottish life. For more it is an ideal, a place where those of all faiths and none, of all political opinions can unite behind a team built on principles of Charity and integration.
The point is that the club belongs to all of us and we don’t all feel the same about the issues affecting it. From players coming and going to the situation in Section 111 there are as many opinions as there are fans. That is good as debate is healthy. What isn’t great is the abuse of others who hold differing views from us. Celtic fans more than most know what it’s like to be subject to verbal abuse. Last week’s lies about the songs sung at Brentford were just the latest in a 125 year old smear campaign by those who hate the club and all it stands for. So the last thing we need is acrimony among ourselves. I’m always amazed at the eloquent points made in just 140 characters by some of the Twitter Celts, or ‘Tweenians’ as some wit called us. Great points are made and debate can be excellent but there are a tiny minority who resort to the foulest of language and that isn’t necessary or welcome. In fact it tells you more about them than the folk they aim their invective at.
So this short blog asks that we try to keep the level of debate up and treat each other with the respect we would want for ourselves. We often fail to realise the power of words, even on social networking sites, to hurt others. If we disagree then say so but without resorting to abuse. That isn’t the Celtic way. We can’t be responsible for the actions of words of others but we can and should be responsible for ourselves. Celtic is fortunate to have a great community of fans who care passionately about the club. They come from all walks of life and reside in just about every country on the globe. When they fuse with the team, as they did when we met Barcelona last season, they are capable of incredible things. Over the years Celtic has had its ups and downs like any club but the one constant was their incredible support. Tommy Burns was asked what makes Celtic so special after the team’s victory in the Cup Final in our Centenary year. He pointed towards the packed terraces of Hampden and said…. ‘Look at them, they’re there, they’re always there and God bless every one of them.’
I would echo those words and ask you to remember them when you interact with our fellow supporters. When there is no enemy within, the enemy outside can’t hurt us.
Link to original article
http://tirnaog09.blogspot.ch/2013/07/do-unto-others-brendan-behan-writer.html
31 degrees and rising….
Interesting stuff from BRT&H in this link.
However,his follow-up underneath at 1147am is a thing of beauty.
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http://www.sfmonitor.org/2013/07/their-masters-voice/comment-page-7/#comment-57187
Borrowed from TSFM.
“When truth is replaced by silence, the silence is a lie.” ― Yevgeny Yevtushenko
Still here ——
Paul Malcomson —— Behind Closed Doors .
I read it when I lived in the UK { last century ]
Total guff . Laughable . Only thing missing was alien abduction and a link to the soundtrack of The Wickerman
What Peter doesn’t seem to realise is that the vast majority of oo members have never seen the inside of a Church …. they join the oo to use it as a ‘vehicle’ for their sad / warped hatred….
An anti-Celtic slant from Tosh McKinlay in his column(?) in the ‘Evening Times’ from 2005?
Must have missed that one.
HH!!
South Of Tunis
12:17 on
28 July, 2013
‘Not all of the BBC’s work is covered by the Freedom of Information Act.’
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A point I made last night. I hope I’m wrong but I suspect those putting hope in FOI requests are on to plums.
ASONOFDAN 1232
Oh,dear! Riding the goat,pmsl…..
His exposé of The Blacks should be very interesting indeed. Some exalted members in there.
If I were him,I’d be using the royalties on plastic surgery.
Good luck to him.
talk on twitter of kelvin being booked in for a medical tomorrow down in nottingham
so that confirms it, all orangies are Satanists and are heading straight to hell…
Duncan Frazer @Duncan_Frazer 15m
Regarding the #NFFC medical, the player is believed to be Kelvin Wilson of #Celtic with a bid rumoured to already have been accepted
Duncan Frazer @Duncan_Frazer 38m
#NFFC have a medical booked for Monday.
Transfer rumour of the day.
Real Madrid now prepared to offer €60 million plus Di Maria and Coentrao for Gareth Bale.
HH!!
Kilbowie Kelt
12:00 on
28 July, 2013
”We have NEVER had it any better than NOW………
The saddest part of it is that some of the most Hunnish attacks on the club come from guys who THINK that they support Celtic.
They are the very worst kind of Huns.”
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I take it you’re post is tongue in cheek.
Nobody outside a locked ward could seriously believe that stuff.
paddybhoy1888
12:33 on 28 July, 2013
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Very best wishes to your boy today.
I hope he get’s a run-out at some stage.
I wasn’t aware that Charlie had a grandson with the Wee Rovers. If he is half as good as his grand-dad he will do OK.
Your dad was a well loved & respected man in this town/
Good Luck.
Masty, who is Duncan Frazer?
BMCUW @ 12 52 .
That ” book ” was published in the late 90s. Total drivel —- I only persevered with it in the hope of learning that Elvis’s brief stop over at Prestwick was part of some satanic ritual. .
Pages and pages of mumbo jumbo about mumbo jumbo
Hearing ‘rumours’ of an explosive exposé which will ‘prove’ that the OO and Opus Dei are in cahoots, and working towards world domination!
…and financed by the Vatican Bank!
HH!!
Duncan Frazer
@Duncan_Frazer
retired sports journalist. Still maintain several contacts within the game