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  1. Today’s line-up: Gordon; Ambrose, Denayer, van Dijk, Izaguirre; Brown, Bitton; Commons, Johansen, Forrest; Guidetti.

  2. Lennybhoy thanks for sorting 2 tables for the Bhoys fae the Brig and surrounding areas, all I hav to do now is find a grand between now and you getting back from paradise

     

    Cheers

     

    And Hail Hail

  3. bankiebhoy1

     

    12:01 on

     

    22 February, 2015

     

    As well as complaining to the broadcaster……..and rightly so……..

     

    The protestant church and whoever else should be urged to condemn thum…………………..

     

     

    In times gone by how often have we had to sit thru a piece on the news on Bigotry where the only face and voice seen is some hapless Bishop – sleekitly caught in the cross-hairs of a camera whose only focus is…..obfuscation.

     

     

    CallThumOooot! CSC

  4. Which racist sectarian Chanel is the game on today ?

     

    Just so I can do my bit to make my protestations before the game starts :)

  5. fourgreenfields

     

     

    12:07 on 22 February, 2015

     

     

    Ma good lady hides it better than that, we had a couple of quid put by to put behind the bar, the bams can buy their own drink now !

     

    There will be enough in the kitty to get your good self a juice or two

  6. jinkyredstar cuts it back for Neil Lennon on

    If the weather in Glasow is anything like here on Bute the game must be in doubt

     

     

    Any word?

     

     

    Celts Celts the Hai is here!

  7. gerryfaethebrig

     

     

    I’m in the Kerrydale just now , sipping Magners. This drinking at the football will never catch on :-))

  8. Canamalar

     

    12:12 on

     

    22 February, 2015

     

    Which racist sectarian Chanel is the game on today ?

     

     

     

    eh……………………CTV -)

  9. Good few changes.. would like to have seen is start with 2 up top

     

     

    Still good to see few bhoys get a start

  10. ....PFayr supports WeeOscar on

    Canamalar

     

     

    Johansen is a machine …as fit a football player as I’ve ever seen ….never tires …not sure he needs a rest

  11. Capt Haddock (formerly known as tomcourtney) on

    My BT complaint…

     

     

    The continuous, and clearly audible on my dodgy stream, anti catholic chanting and the racism directed to Mr Collymore from the Rangers fans was totally unacceptable.

     

     

    BT Sport, as a reputable broadcaster, should immediately suspend coverage of the rangers games.

     

    Mr Collymore should be re instated immediately, a glance at the rangers fan forums (over 18’s only) will show this underclass are celebrating Mr Collymore’s removal from the panel as a victory. BT therefore encouraged this attitude and has to accept a portion of the blame for the racist chanting.

     

    Shame on you BT Sport, if I was a subscriber I would cancel.

  12. good to see forest starting and commons back thought our two new boys have been great. Big big games coming up thick and fast now

  13. Something to chew over before the game. Mine from TSFM

     

     

    Allyjambo says:

     

     

    February 21, 2015 at 11:43 am

     

     

    My complaint to BT.

     

     

    “I subscribe to BT Sport.

     

     

    Last night I watched the Raith Rovers v Rangers football match on BT Sport. On a number of occasions offensive songs, banned by the Scottish Government, and therefor illegal, were clearly audible on your broadcast. Although I am not one of the targets of those songs, ie I am neither Catholic nor Irish (nor do I support Celtic), I do find them offensive and know, as a fact, that they do incite violence.

     

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    Your latter point reminds me of an article I wrote in the days that The Famine Song was the subject of debate. It was aimed at the Celtic support but I think it crosses all club divides.

     

     

    I’d prefer that football would leave all its non football baggage at the turnstile on its way in to a game but as that for some is to lose their identity (or perhaps more accurately what they identify with) I think that a forlorn hope. So on a pragmatic basis ( I know its not a word in the football lexicon or it would be close season today) I offer the following with a post script.

     

     

    How To Tell if a Song is Sectarian.

     

     

    Every now and then a songs debate flares up in Celtic Cyberspace and the one thing you can be sure of is no agreement will emerge. This will always be so unless there is a set of criteria to go by.

     

     

    Examining The Billy Boys offers one set of criteria for a sectarian song in that the words “up to our knees in Fenian blood” offers violence to a person of an identifiable religious faith either directly or in this case by inference, fenian = Catholic. (see post script)

     

     

    If you take the Soldiers Song or The Fields that are deemed acceptable by Celtic if I understand it correctly. The thing about these songs is that they are “inward aimed” or “centred on self” celebrating that sense of self.

     

     

    Sectarianism is defined as ” bigotry, discrimination, prejudice or hatred arising from attaching importance to perceived differences between subdivisions within a group, such as between different denominations of a religion or the factions of a political movement.

     

     

    The key words are sub divisions WITHIN a group. The group involved with The Fields or Soldiers is a single group where no intolerant sub division exists on this matter.

     

     

    For a song to be sectarian it has to project OUTWARD from that group ideas or beliefs that the group wish to impose on others or to express distaste or hatred for those OUTSIDE the group.

     

     

    The key words are inward celebration and outward projection. The first cannot by definition be sectarian but the latter depending on the words can.

     

     

    So why not use those criteria to at least draw a line?

     

     

    Now on what is objectionable to others: songs that are inward celebrating might cause offence to others but they are the ones taking offence, it is not being offered to or aimed at them. It is something intolerant in them that sparks the offence taken. If beauty is in the eye of the beholder, why not offence?

     

     

    We as Celtic supporters are not responsible if others take offence at our songs of inward celebration. It is only when outward projection as in say add ons occurs that sectarianism might apply.

     

     

    These criteria would apply to Rangers songs as well as our own where they too have songs of inward celebration.

     

     

    This debate has been going on for ever. You would think someone would have penned official criteria from usage by now to give guidance to supporters.

     

     

    Note criteria is NOT a song list. Folk can use the criteria to look at what they sing and maybe think about why they are singing what they are. Inward celebration of belief/faith/culture/tradition or outward projection of those things on to others?

     

     

    Question the motivation, using the criteria, not the words.

     

     

    Post Script

     

     

    This report

     

     

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/spl/aberdeen/uefa-fine-and-warn-rangers-over-sectarian-singing-by-fans-governing-body-throws-out-original-not-guilty-verdict-1.19519

     

     

    shows why UEFA came down hard on The Billy Boys in 2006 and should be part of the SPFL investigation on The Billy Boys. It is not because it is offensive (although it is) but it is threatening and that in my opinion is why it must be challenged and defeated or anarchy reigns in our game where threats seem to be the knee jerk response to a reasonable request to behave.

  14. I think Ronny has put out the correct team. Looks like Stokes has burned his bridges, Scepovic is now definitely our 3rd choice striker. Wouldn’t give up on him yet though, if Guidetti goes, he could come back into the picture.

  15. Capt Haddock (formerly known as tomcourtney) on

    Post Scriptum

     

     

    Forgot, I also included a link to the Herald article re the UEFA action in my BT complaint.

  16. …PF…,

     

    Nae disrespect to Hamilton but when there is a chance to let the engine purr for a wee while, it does more good than harm.

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