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  1. bigrailroadblues on

    Delighted for Luke. How much confidence does that give you? Brendan has hard choices. That’s why he is the boss. 😁

  8. Big Jimmy on

    Well done Celtic.

     

    Sadly we can’t win every game by 4 or 5, but I will gladly accept the 2 – 0 win Today.

     

    How I hate those Mini Huns.

     

    Big ARNE showing nerves of steel to take the penalty in his first start for Celtic, and MAGIC from LUKE also.

     

     

    HH.

  12. Auldheid on

    From Previous.

     

     

    Greenpinata on 14th September 2024 1:13 pm

     

     

    FFP or whatever its called this week is a joke. Why should clubs not splash their own cash if they want to. ?

     

     

    Top class Football is a money oriented and rich investors are part and parcel. Rightly or wrongly, market forces prevail.

     

     

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    Not in football they don’t if it wants to make claim to being a sport.

     

     

    In normal markets company’s spend to attract customers to make a profit. If they put another company in the same business by having a better product they take the customers of that company (eg Kodak) over and grow as a result whilst the other company diminishes or goes bust.

     

     

    If that were to apply to football then the number of teams that can offer competition reduces or their standard does (R2ngers). Competition is what keeps supporters turning up in acceptable numbers.

     

     

    The game v Dons if things stay the same will be one guaranteed a big audience.

     

     

    The big difference between football and “normal business” is that normal business is not dependent on other normal businesses to make a living. That is not the case in football. Football is an interdependent industry that requires a set of rules to allow it be be seen as a sport.

     

     

    The EU has recognised the “specificity of sport” as a legal term requires a different approach . There is a study at

     

     

    https://ec.europa.eu/assets/eac/sport/library/studies/mapping-analysis-specificity-sport_en.pdf

     

     

    and I have copied this extract of a study into the matter. Anyone wishing to understand for example why there was a 5WA and why R2ngers rose from the dead can delve further.

     

     

    Purpose of the Study

     

     

    This report provides an analysis of recent EU rulings and decisions relating to the

     

    ‘specificity of sport’ since 2007. The ‘specificity of sport’ refers to the inherent characteristics of sport ===>which set it apart from other economic and social activities <=== The ‘specificity of sport’ has become a legal concept established and developed through therulings of the European Court of Justice and through decisional practice of the European Commission, notably as regards competition rules. As set out in the White Paper on Sport, the recognition of the specificity of sport requires an assessment of the

     

    compatibility of sporting rules with EU law on a case-by-case basis.

     

     

    In 2009 the ‘specificity of sport’ was recognised in the amended Treaty of the European

     

     

    Union. Article 1653 of the Treaty states:

     

     

    “The Union shall contribute to the promotion of European sporting issues, while taking

     

    account of the specific nature of sport, its structures based on voluntary activity and its

     

    social and educational function.”

     

     

    The main focus of the study is to provide an analysis of the specificity of sport through a

     

    systematic review of all new case law and decisions relevant to sporting rules since the

     

    publication of the White Paper on Sport in 2007. The research has also sought to identify

     

    how recent decisions and rulings have given weight to the Article 165 considerations.

     

    =================================

     

    Once an understanding of the difference is absorbed then the "bluenose leaning "element of decisions can be put in a wider perspective as can an understanding of why UEFA developed FSR.

  13. Partizan on

    In 1906 Celtic did not concede a goal in their first 6 league matches.

     

    The unique feature of this run was that the goalie was a Rangers player! Our keeper was injured in a pre-season charity match at Ibrox, and to compensate Rangers loaned us their reserve goalie, Tom Sinclair.

  16. bigshuggy on

    3good points Kyogo off the boil,and sme sloppy passing

     

    Very well done the new boys with their goals and big Schmeichel with a great save at 1 nil.

  18. setting free the bears for Res. 12 & Oscar Knox on

    Well- that was a bit more sticky.

     

     

    The first half ended goalless because of sub-clinical finishing by Kyogo and Engels. But, though we won the 2nd half 2:0, our energy levels and speed were poorer and we gave up a good scoring option to them.

     

     

    Liam Scales had been our best CB in the opening matches but today CCV outshone him and was my MOTM. Kühn showed quick feet and created chances but did not find anyone to finish them. Hatate was our most attack minded midfielder but gave up possession too often for BR in a tight game. Paolo was good when he came on and Luis Palma did chase back and help the defence.

     

     

    My top3 are CCV (easily the best), Engels (for his guts & willingness) & either Hatate (for trying to get us forward when we were becoming a possession-fetishist team again) or Kuhn (for fast feet in tight areas

  19. Greenpinata on

    Auldheid on 14th September 2024 6:15 pm

     

     

    Thankyou for your reply.

     

    However you have missed out the part where I mention fairness and sustainability .

     

     

    We all want fair competition. To achieve that we need to have an equal playing field. I mentioned that would require a renumeration cap and a cap on transfer fees.

     

     

    Is that desirable. I do not think so.

     

     

    As for EU law. We, as in the UK are no longer in the single market or in the customs union and EU law does not apply in the UK although we have a ” friendly ” cooperation.

     

     

    More lawyers. KC’S , Accountants, financial advisors, agents await. FFP is on trial. Will the legal teams of Man City continue to embarras FfP as they have done since 2009 ?

     

    Football in the top level is totally capitalist and subsequently incompatable with FFP. IMO.

     

     

    All clubs are equal, but some clubs are more equal than others. C’est la vie.

     

     

    Cheers and HH.

  20. Maestro on

    Sloppy in keys areas today International break and wind I’ll say played it’s part onto midweek.

     

     

    My motm Greg Taylor

     

    Delighted for the 2 newbies and mentioned at the match liked the courage and big baws to take pen by Arne.

  21. PeterLatchfordsBelly on

    Just back in from the game.

     

     

    Horrible weather conditions that suited Hearts. Levelled things. The ref was hopeless too.

     

     

    We weren’t great but still too good for Hertz. Engles looked the part and delighted for McCowan too.

     

     

    CCV MoTM for me, followed by Scales.

     

     

    Kasper’s distribution is terrific, including his throw to Daizen.

     

     

    Rate AJ, Reo and Kuhn highly, but all three off it today.

     

     

    Historic start to the season. Well done to all at the club.

  23. Tontine Tim on

    LEFTCLICKTIC on 14TH SEPTEMBER 2024 5:07 PM

     

     

    Well done brendan and your bhoys .Diets bottom of the league, naiwin doomed.

     

     

    *was watching Villa there and notice their coach at the subs, Austin McPhee and yet they dumped him

  24. MadraRua on

    Scales and CV were excellent in snuffing out their chances, Taylor was excellent.

     

    My man of the match was Kuhn,

  25. bournesouprecipe on

    Any Hertz beautician as tipped failed to trap, – Celts win a bit uglier.

     

     

    Pretty football never won a whole campaign and Hertz were tough cookies compared with Rainjurz, due largely to messers like Penrice & Devlin. Lack of ‘the clinical’ was again evident, as per the last home game, one pass too many, one shot too shy, could have cost Celts right up to Luke McCowan’s killing goal. Brendan Rodger’s brand of Celtic continues to threaten to blow away the SPL where galloping Engels slotted in for Matt O’Riley and unlucky Paulo Bernardo -odd man out till Wednesday? Right sided midfielders playing right, might catch on quickly, if our continental contingent go as started. Alistair Johnston was again tremendous value with the ink still wet on his new contract, he finds the by line for fun, overlapping with Nicolas Kuhn. Reo Hatate was everywhere in the first half especially, and Celtic were unlucky to go off level at half time after , Kyogo missed a snip, and Engels hit the woodwork.

     

     

    A handball or two, was sure to go in Celtic’s favour a season or two in, and top signing Engels sent Craig Gordon the wrong way with his one out of one, thanks to Hatate’s generous gesture. Luke McCowan started and finished the winning move, for Kasper Schmeichel’s record smashing shut out, sending home the happy support. The pirate Hampden version of VAAAAR continues in the beautiful game with two paid referees for the price of two paid referees, if ever there was a case for leaving the game the way it was, VAR is it. There ain’t no cure for human judgement and whether it’s Nicolas Kuhn’s knee or Luis Palma’s heel, it’s a ‘footballing’ travesty, especially with dodgy Mount Florida type technology. When Saturday comes it now brings a ridiculous ruling exposed and embarrassed by VAR.

     

     

    Somebody has ‘to draw a line’ somewhere.

     

     

    M.O.M Cameron Carter Vickers

  26. BelmontBrian on

    Evening all.

     

     

    Well done Brendan and the bhoys, SFTB called it ‘sticky’ a spot on description.

     

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    Jinkyredstar on 14th September 2024 5:54 pm

     

    BRRB – one day I’m joining you🕺🏼

     

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    Be careful what you wish for😂😂

  27. bigshuggy on

    VAR good decisions today

     

    Ball to hand never a penalty

     

    Herrst tv pundit said Scales arrms not in nutural position !

     

    Where should his arms be when jumping for a ball ! Celtic TV abysmal today ! 3 good points and another clean sheet ! Wd post more often but for pop ups !!

  29. TheLurkinTim on

    Hearts got exactly what they deserved today….broken and nothing. Well done Bhoys….another 3 points, another clean sheet….we move on

     

     

    H.H.

  30. Gene on

    The reason CTV is poor is bandwidth- half the available bandwidth is taken up by the live link to the Vatican.

  31. Auldheid on

    Auldheid on 14th September 2024 6:15 pm

     

     

    Thankyou for your reply.

     

     

    However you have missed out the part where I mention fairness and sustainability .

     

     

    We all want fair competition. To achieve that we need to have an equal playing field. I mentioned that would require a renumeration cap and a cap on transfer fees.

     

     

     

    Is that desirable. I do not think so.

     

     

     

    As for EU law. We, as in the UK are no longer in the single market or in the customs union and EU law does not apply in the UK although we have a ” friendly ” cooperation.

     

    ==========

     

    More lawyers. KC’S , Accountants, financial advisors, agents await. FFP is on trial. Will the legal teams of Man City continue to embarras FfP as they have done since 2009 ?

     

     

    Football in the top level is totally capitalist and subsequently incompatable with FFP. IMO.

     

     

    All clubs are equal, but some clubs are more equal than others. C’est la vie.

     

     

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    You do realise that if the UK national associations said EU rules, that UEFA are bound by, decided it did not apply to UK clubs, that our clubs could not play in Europe?

     

     

    On all clubs are equal: Celtic are bigger than Motherwell because the have a bigger support. How can that be put right? Split supporters equally over all club? Inequality has been around as soon as football became professional. It is just something that has to be controlled.

     

     

    What FSR does is to minimise the degree of inequality. What it also does is introduce a form of wage control by limiting clubs to the same legitimate earnings of all their competitors. Ok Celtic can still spend more than Motherwell as we earn more but that is a structural issue that would require football in Europe moving towards the American model with no relegation and the draft to spread talent around.

     

    So even in the most capitalist of countries they recognise the dangers of owners with the most money removing the competition that makes football a sport. Unless you are advocating the UK deserts Europe and follows the USA model?

     

     

     

    Top players will still command top wages but only from the biggest football earners . Below them is a strata of clubs with decent players that will trade players within the 70% wage ceiling. This ceiling will stop players and agents trying to piggy back upwards to what big earning clubs can play which will help Celtic recruitment in the coming seasons.

     

     

    FSR ain’t perfect but it is what it is.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Cheers and HH.

  32. Auldheid on

    Greenpinta

     

     

    Man City trail starts Monday. They face 155 charges. It will take two months.

     

     

    The dilemma will be not that they are innocent of the charges but what sanctions they will face given the interdependent nature of football.

     

     

    That is why the sanctions will not be declared until end of this season.

  34. Parkheadcumsalford on

    BRRB,

     

     

    I hope this wee family anecdote counts loosely as a wee bit of Celtic History.

     

     

    I was looking at some photos of a family celebration of about 50 years ago. One was a photo of 2 elderly ladies. One was my mammy’s mother and the other was my Dad’s auntie. Both have a loose connection of sorts to Celtic. My granny was educated by Br Walfrid in the Sacred Heart and Auntie Becky’s father-in-law was one of the original shareholders. He worked on the original ground and was paid in shares.

     

     

    I imagine they were both among the children for whom Celtic were founded as they were born and lived all their lives in the Sacred Heart and St Michael’s Parishes.

  35. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    Enjoyed that today.

     

     

    Sticky at times but a deserved win.

     

     

    My tuppence ….

     

     

    No standouts but Greg, Arne, and Callum caught my eye with the intelligence of their work.

     

     

    Cam was solid today but I still think he looks less fit than he did before the op … which was more than a year ago now.

     

     

    Liam seems to gulp when he plays Hearts. Gets bumped a bit – when he settled down he came on to a strong game.

     

     

    Reo miles off it and AJ had a stinker with the ball.

     

     

    Anyone else think Luis Palma looked like he’d visited Shankland’s dietician?

  36. GFTB on

    Jinkyredstar 5.54pm

     

     

    Count me in if your drinking with the Southside Superstar (BRRB)

     

     

    BigShuggy 6.57pm

     

     

    Hope your enjoying our Brendan … and all the family are good 🍀

     

     

    Luke MacCowan is my type of Celt … probably thought his chance of wearing the hoops had maybe passed him by … Hope he is an inspiration to many others

     

     

    Good times … roll on Bratislava with a wee Dundee Utd victory in between :-)

  37. eratic on

    Last night of The prawns as Terry Wogan used to say… sports music theme … big Joe was on there with Gary Liniker 👍☘️☘️

  41. celtic40me on

    You might know better than me but I heard on the radio this week that the aim is to have the hearing all appeals finished in time for sanctions to be applied well before the end of the season. The EPL is desperate for the league not to be “decided” by sanctions so if a points deduction is to be included in possible punishments it needs to be applied long before May

     

     

    City are trying to drag out the whole process already, challenging the EPL over the legality of the Asdociated Party Transaction rules, I think they’ll be doing whatever they can to prolong this for as long as possible – they know what a bad look it would be for the EPL for the league to take a title away from the best team

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