I am not defending it. I want us to pick our battles.
We cannot win the one this week. It’s set up with all the elements for a PR disaster for us if we let it. We must not and screaming hysterically and blaming everyone in Scotland for it will make hee haw by way of difference and only serve to make us look like the bad guys. Time for a new approach.
If St Johnstone are genuinely trying to stop Pyro coming in wrapped in flags we need to keep our eyes on their Stadium from now until May (might only take to the next home game they have) and if there are flags from any other supporters at any other game in future then we have a legitimate case do we not?
If we can show one rule for us tangibly then this is a start as far as I am concerned.
It’s time we used our brains and think how we end this. It cannot be achieved by out and out naked defiance, we need something else.
I am not the person to do that but how are we doing so far in ending this kind of harassment of our own support?
We’ve all seen the kettling and nothing has changed
The Green Brigade are gone and it would appear little has changed.
FAC has been started but events in recent weeks I think have set them back because the moral high ground has been stripped away from them. Those who seek to demonize us now have Amsterdam, Fir park and the banning of the GB to throw at us (in two of those cases wrongly in my opinion but they have them).
Someone told me that this OB law has a 70% approval rating among the general public. Now that is quite an astonishing figure. You don’t knock down such a figure by wrecking seats and continuing with Pyro. People go on to associate all these things alongside political expressions and then it fosters the idea that our fans are trouble.
There has to be another way which is why I say pick your battles and be smarter. It is the only way. I am not saying just accept everything that is going on but ranting and raving is getting us nowhere fast and turning up on Thursday with flags and fighting about it (verbally or physically) won’t work.
The events at Fir park played into the hands of those who want to see us dragged through the mud and it doesn’t take much for them to jump on that band wagon.
My whole point is be smarter this time and don’t let Christmas and New Year be ruined for families because of this.
If it is only a one off for our fans only then we know exactly where we stand and what we must do. If this is a new club policy in Perth, lets have them put it to the test every fortnight.
If they don’t I’d say we’ve got them all. We need proof that this is only happening to our fans. Irrefutable proof.
This would be a start.
Rather than us fall into their traps (assuming it is a trap) how about we give them enough of a chance to make that mistake?
desertbhoy on
TBM…no, need visa to get into oilfields in Southern Iraq.
BMCUW… missus not impressed when i stuffed the fridge AND freezer with the fat bhoy fry up supplies.. didn’t leave much room for her pasta, asparagus etc!!
Next couple of days on the mince pies/turkey then back to normal…
Knocking big holes in my wine stocks, and cognac/single malts also taking a battering… wife says i’ve got the constitution of an ox (whatever that is) i just put it down to hollow legs.
tomtheleedstim on
@eddie_toner
Over 40 years following Celtic home and away. A lifetime spent organising weekends around where we where playing but I’ve now had enough.
corkcelt- SUPPORTING THE DAM 5 on
Aye BCW, that was a gent called Natasoola. Kojo no one is calling for a ban on Celtic, people are talking about boycotting away games. You being a logical financial Guru should realise that the only people suffering would be our rivals. also the fact that people are losing out on attending away games will make them more likely to attend home ones, with more disposable income in their pockets. I reckon the Celtic nose will be in fine Romanesque shape whilst our rivals nasal equipment will be a little more the worse for wear. Makes Sense to me.Nice Chattin to you Pally, your pal who likes you a Loater.
Hamiltontim is praying for Oscar on
Snake/Greenpinta/Goldstar
My original suggestion probably wasn’t the best.
However, it was borne out of genuine frustration and anger at this decision.
Let’s not kid ourselves on, this is merely another act targeting the Celtic support.
I’m concerned where this will stop.
Celtic Mac on
Paul67 et al
On August 1st 1746, in the wake of Culloden, The Act of Proscription, outlawed the wearing of the “Highland Dress”, in all its forms, or colours. The penalty for a first offence was six months in prison, whilst for a second offence, transportation for seven years.
What is the punishment for waving a flag in Perth 2013?
Anybody know what Act of Proscription is being applied?
BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS .........FC not PLC on
SNAKE
I’m pretty sure St Johnstone have said that the ban is only for Thursday’s match.
prestonpans bhoys dam justice for the 5 on
Took spurs 45 ms to work out the fox/Hooiveld on the left is easy meat
TheBarcaMole on
praecepta 14:51 on 22 December, 2013
TBM…………….A TV Licence Demand?…………….
Good answer…….NAW…………!
TBM
kitalba on
Morals, ethics, values, EQUAILITY, meaning, teaching, compassion, contrition, HONESTY, hope, we can hide behind anything we choose, but what do those words mean to you as a Celtic Supporter.
Are you happy paying your coin TO THE CLUB when some selected supporters are brought into the fold and you are not, yet they pay not a penny or emotion more than you?
Does it happen?
I’ll bet my house it does. I know it does and I am sickened by it.
TheBarcaMole on
BMCW ………FC not PLC 14:52 on 22 December, 2013
PRAECEPTA
TV Licence?
Why bother,mine works fine without one……………
You tried booting the telly in wearing CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS?????????/
TBM
corkcelt- SUPPORTING THE DAM 5 on
If Eddie Toner is quitting believe me the Club is in serious trouble.
Tricoloured Ribbon on
Congratulations to the Green Brigade and to all who contributed food at Celtic Park yesterday.Heroes one and all.
BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS .........FC not PLC on
THE BARCA MOLE
That’s how mine got curled up.
Bobby’s was caused by genuflecting.
Snake Plissken on
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS ………FC not PLC
I will hang fire until we see the full thing. All I have seen is a couple of tweets on it.
If it IS only for this game then it is the start we need to prove this is out and out discrimination.
A meeting and appropriate action must follow.
notthebus on
Jut popped on to Follow Follow for a laugh at the huns, hilarious
Fans attacking fans
A hated board
Demonising directors of the club
and most hilarious of all ,calls for boycotts..of their own club!
Hard to believe really….
kitalba on
See that Celtic Supporter out there who was never any good at English writing, who was a wee bi shy, but who loved the Celtic, but could never bring himself/herself to post in case their grammar or punctuation or articulation did not meet their fearfuled standards….
that Celtic Supporter is still a Celtic Supporter and I don’t give a feck he never got his ‘o’ level English.
He/she’s still got an opinion worth hearing.
You’re the soul, silent soul, from ten to ninety. When God created Celtic he never said you had to be an academic to be a supporter. He never said you had to have a degree in English to post. You just need to a pulse and the need to have your voice heard too.
I don’t know if it’s been suggested earlier , but could travelling fans spell out a message on T-shirts to get thier ppint across (individual letters) i’m sure they will get their message across somehow , keep safe lads and video every move of the stewards and polce , merry chrimbo one and all :))
kitalba on
You can beat about every bush but at the end of the day, how much do you like it up you.
You have but one recourse, one weapon, your pound. That is the start and that is the end.
the hooped crusader on
Would it not be easier for the poor stretched resources of police Scotland if we just bought tickets but stopped actually going??
That looks to be where we are heading pay your money and shut up, is there a concerted effort to kill off football in this country.
I think we should be told.
Kojo on
Whit is so important aboot..
The Right tae Fly a Flag.. at a Fitba’ Game, anyway?
That is Wan Right that A Could Forego.. Rather ,Easileeeee!
Whit is So Important ,tae be able tae.. Set Aff Fireworks n Flares
In a Crowd, much tae the Imperilment o’ Folk wi.. Breathing Troubles?
Again..
That is A Right.. that Ah could ,also … No lay claim tae.,. eethur!
Whit is so Important tae Be able tae Fly a Banner… Stating Yer Political View..or Flying a Banner tae Protest.. Somewan Else’s Political View?
Again.
Nada.. Fur Be..
Mark me doon as a Political Neutral.. when Ah wanna Go tae watch Ma Beloved,Celtic
Ah only go fur the sake ..of the Pleasure of Seeing Ma Heroes in Action..’
Noithing Mair.. That’s Awe.
Tell, Me..
Why is Everybuddy, oan HERE… Except fur a Few..
So ..
Hell Bent oan.. Protesting.. agin..
The Celtic Board..Neil, Peter… The Pie Man… The Polis.. The Refs… and Many ither Tom Cobleys,too numerous tae Mention?
Why Doesn’t Everybuddy jist Talk aboot how the Team Is Playin’
be content .. jist tae Go an Watch oor Team?
Why is Every buddy..
Constantly, Worried aboot..
Getting Wan Up oan Oor Hated Rivals?
Why are a Loata Guys.. Constantly making references tae
The G.A.’s .. Troubles?
These are only a Few of the Questions that Kojo Canny get a Straight answer Tae.
Ma Advice tae All these Worry Worts..
Relax, Take in the Game.. Enjoy!
Bask in..yer Luv fur the Celtic..
And let awe the ither stuff..
GO.
Who’m Ah kiddin’?
Naebuddy, that’s Who.
O.K. Folks.. Knock Yersels Oot..
Carry oan, Complainin’…
If Daeing that .. Maks ye Happy..
Then… Be Ma Guest.
Man..
Moanin’ and Bitchin’… Are things that Nevah go oota Style.
Fur tae tell ye the Trewth..
Ah ,Masel..
Dae a fair amount of Indulgin in daein’ ….THAT kinda Stuff..
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Neganon2
I am not defending it. I want us to pick our battles.
We cannot win the one this week. It’s set up with all the elements for a PR disaster for us if we let it. We must not and screaming hysterically and blaming everyone in Scotland for it will make hee haw by way of difference and only serve to make us look like the bad guys. Time for a new approach.
If St Johnstone are genuinely trying to stop Pyro coming in wrapped in flags we need to keep our eyes on their Stadium from now until May (might only take to the next home game they have) and if there are flags from any other supporters at any other game in future then we have a legitimate case do we not?
If we can show one rule for us tangibly then this is a start as far as I am concerned.
It’s time we used our brains and think how we end this. It cannot be achieved by out and out naked defiance, we need something else.
I am not the person to do that but how are we doing so far in ending this kind of harassment of our own support?
We’ve all seen the kettling and nothing has changed
The Green Brigade are gone and it would appear little has changed.
FAC has been started but events in recent weeks I think have set them back because the moral high ground has been stripped away from them. Those who seek to demonize us now have Amsterdam, Fir park and the banning of the GB to throw at us (in two of those cases wrongly in my opinion but they have them).
Someone told me that this OB law has a 70% approval rating among the general public. Now that is quite an astonishing figure. You don’t knock down such a figure by wrecking seats and continuing with Pyro. People go on to associate all these things alongside political expressions and then it fosters the idea that our fans are trouble.
There has to be another way which is why I say pick your battles and be smarter. It is the only way. I am not saying just accept everything that is going on but ranting and raving is getting us nowhere fast and turning up on Thursday with flags and fighting about it (verbally or physically) won’t work.
The events at Fir park played into the hands of those who want to see us dragged through the mud and it doesn’t take much for them to jump on that band wagon.
My whole point is be smarter this time and don’t let Christmas and New Year be ruined for families because of this.
If it is only a one off for our fans only then we know exactly where we stand and what we must do. If this is a new club policy in Perth, lets have them put it to the test every fortnight.
If they don’t I’d say we’ve got them all. We need proof that this is only happening to our fans. Irrefutable proof.
This would be a start.
Rather than us fall into their traps (assuming it is a trap) how about we give them enough of a chance to make that mistake?
TBM…no, need visa to get into oilfields in Southern Iraq.
BMCUW… missus not impressed when i stuffed the fridge AND freezer with the fat bhoy fry up supplies.. didn’t leave much room for her pasta, asparagus etc!!
Next couple of days on the mince pies/turkey then back to normal…
Knocking big holes in my wine stocks, and cognac/single malts also taking a battering… wife says i’ve got the constitution of an ox (whatever that is) i just put it down to hollow legs.
@eddie_toner
Over 40 years following Celtic home and away. A lifetime spent organising weekends around where we where playing but I’ve now had enough.
Aye BCW, that was a gent called Natasoola. Kojo no one is calling for a ban on Celtic, people are talking about boycotting away games. You being a logical financial Guru should realise that the only people suffering would be our rivals. also the fact that people are losing out on attending away games will make them more likely to attend home ones, with more disposable income in their pockets. I reckon the Celtic nose will be in fine Romanesque shape whilst our rivals nasal equipment will be a little more the worse for wear. Makes Sense to me.Nice Chattin to you Pally, your pal who likes you a Loater.
Snake/Greenpinta/Goldstar
My original suggestion probably wasn’t the best.
However, it was borne out of genuine frustration and anger at this decision.
Let’s not kid ourselves on, this is merely another act targeting the Celtic support.
I’m concerned where this will stop.
Paul67 et al
On August 1st 1746, in the wake of Culloden, The Act of Proscription, outlawed the wearing of the “Highland Dress”, in all its forms, or colours. The penalty for a first offence was six months in prison, whilst for a second offence, transportation for seven years.
What is the punishment for waving a flag in Perth 2013?
Anybody know what Act of Proscription is being applied?
SNAKE
I’m pretty sure St Johnstone have said that the ban is only for Thursday’s match.
Took spurs 45 ms to work out the fox/Hooiveld on the left is easy meat
praecepta 14:51 on 22 December, 2013
TBM…………….A TV Licence Demand?…………….
Good answer…….NAW…………!
TBM
Morals, ethics, values, EQUAILITY, meaning, teaching, compassion, contrition, HONESTY, hope, we can hide behind anything we choose, but what do those words mean to you as a Celtic Supporter.
Are you happy paying your coin TO THE CLUB when some selected supporters are brought into the fold and you are not, yet they pay not a penny or emotion more than you?
Does it happen?
I’ll bet my house it does. I know it does and I am sickened by it.
BMCW ………FC not PLC 14:52 on 22 December, 2013
PRAECEPTA
TV Licence?
Why bother,mine works fine without one……………
You tried booting the telly in wearing CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS?????????/
TBM
If Eddie Toner is quitting believe me the Club is in serious trouble.
Congratulations to the Green Brigade and to all who contributed food at Celtic Park yesterday.Heroes one and all.
THE BARCA MOLE
That’s how mine got curled up.
Bobby’s was caused by genuflecting.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS ………FC not PLC
I will hang fire until we see the full thing. All I have seen is a couple of tweets on it.
If it IS only for this game then it is the start we need to prove this is out and out discrimination.
A meeting and appropriate action must follow.
Jut popped on to Follow Follow for a laugh at the huns, hilarious
Fans attacking fans
A hated board
Demonising directors of the club
and most hilarious of all ,calls for boycotts..of their own club!
Hard to believe really….
See that Celtic Supporter out there who was never any good at English writing, who was a wee bi shy, but who loved the Celtic, but could never bring himself/herself to post in case their grammar or punctuation or articulation did not meet their fearfuled standards….
that Celtic Supporter is still a Celtic Supporter and I don’t give a feck he never got his ‘o’ level English.
He/she’s still got an opinion worth hearing.
You’re the soul, silent soul, from ten to ninety. When God created Celtic he never said you had to be an academic to be a supporter. He never said you had to have a degree in English to post. You just need to a pulse and the need to have your voice heard too.
Your voice heard too.
Your voice heard too.
Your voice heard too.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=627491380629712&set=a.251654994880021.60172.126266120752243&type=1&theater
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS ………FC not PLC
15:04 on 22 December, 2013 THE BARCA MOLE
That’s how mine got curled up.
Bobby’s was caused by genuflecting……………………
Aye but Murdy could have played in Winklepickers, he was that good, as all of the other Lions would have/will testify………
Regards & Hail Hail
TBM
SNAKE
Read PADDY GALLAGHER’s post at 2247.
It is stated in there by the match commander.
tomtheleedstim,
Just got a text there from Eddie. He’s had enough and resigned from his CSC. Doubts he will be renewing his season book.
If the likes of Eddie call it a day, and I know Jeanette is having similar feelings we really are in a downward spiral unless things change.
Erm,
2347.
Southampton had the best defence in EPL in their first 11 games.
Since their 11th game they haven’t kept even one clean sheet.
Victor Wanyama broke his leg in Southampton’s 11th game.
Coincidence or what?
Discuss………
Has anyone checked accuracy of story about Celtic tops being banned in Perth tesco?
Again this would def offer the chance to legally and responsibly take the pi88 and show it up for what it is?
Or is there now a fear of pyros and illicit songs in tesco???!’!!!
HH jamesgang
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS ………FC not PLC
Ok I’ll give it a look.
Wasn’t on last night.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25485012.
What a horrible injury.
new article posted.
I don’t know if it’s been suggested earlier , but could travelling fans spell out a message on T-shirts to get thier ppint across (individual letters) i’m sure they will get their message across somehow , keep safe lads and video every move of the stewards and polce , merry chrimbo one and all :))
You can beat about every bush but at the end of the day, how much do you like it up you.
You have but one recourse, one weapon, your pound. That is the start and that is the end.
Would it not be easier for the poor stretched resources of police Scotland if we just bought tickets but stopped actually going??
That looks to be where we are heading pay your money and shut up, is there a concerted effort to kill off football in this country.
I think we should be told.
Whit is so important aboot..
The Right tae Fly a Flag.. at a Fitba’ Game, anyway?
That is Wan Right that A Could Forego.. Rather ,Easileeeee!
Whit is So Important ,tae be able tae.. Set Aff Fireworks n Flares
In a Crowd, much tae the Imperilment o’ Folk wi.. Breathing Troubles?
Again..
That is A Right.. that Ah could ,also … No lay claim tae.,. eethur!
Whit is so Important tae Be able tae Fly a Banner… Stating Yer Political View..or Flying a Banner tae Protest.. Somewan Else’s Political View?
Again.
Nada.. Fur Be..
Mark me doon as a Political Neutral.. when Ah wanna Go tae watch Ma Beloved,Celtic
Ah only go fur the sake ..of the Pleasure of Seeing Ma Heroes in Action..’
Noithing Mair.. That’s Awe.
Tell, Me..
Why is Everybuddy, oan HERE… Except fur a Few..
So ..
Hell Bent oan.. Protesting.. agin..
The Celtic Board..Neil, Peter… The Pie Man… The Polis.. The Refs… and Many ither Tom Cobleys,too numerous tae Mention?
Why Doesn’t Everybuddy jist Talk aboot how the Team Is Playin’
be content .. jist tae Go an Watch oor Team?
Why is Every buddy..
Constantly, Worried aboot..
Getting Wan Up oan Oor Hated Rivals?
Why are a Loata Guys.. Constantly making references tae
The G.A.’s .. Troubles?
These are only a Few of the Questions that Kojo Canny get a Straight answer Tae.
Ma Advice tae All these Worry Worts..
Relax, Take in the Game.. Enjoy!
Bask in..yer Luv fur the Celtic..
And let awe the ither stuff..
GO.
Who’m Ah kiddin’?
Naebuddy, that’s Who.
O.K. Folks.. Knock Yersels Oot..
Carry oan, Complainin’…
If Daeing that .. Maks ye Happy..
Then… Be Ma Guest.
Man..
Moanin’ and Bitchin’… Are things that Nevah go oota Style.
Fur tae tell ye the Trewth..
Ah ,Masel..
Dae a fair amount of Indulgin in daein’ ….THAT kinda Stuff..
Noo n Agin!
Kojo
Still, Laughin’
stairheedrammy
14:37 on 22 December, 2013
What’s there email and I’ll do the same HH