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no, I’M Neil Lennon “i’ll never walk alone” (fourstonecoppi ) I disagree.
No-one is born corrupt.
I’ve met many hardworking , honest Italians. The majority.
To fight against corruption in Italy is to put your life on the line. Many have paid the price.
That Italians are turning away from football and its corruption is indicative of what they think of it.
It’s easy to pontificate but faced with the business end of corruption one mainly complies.
Very proud of Celtic tonight.
We did well with the players and management available, very unlucky to lose that tie changing first goal, but Id have played Ambrose every day, I dont trust any other defensive partnership, was glad he was in there.
The early goal blew things and left us chasing, after that you are up against well I hesitate to say ‘Italian’ tactics BUT, we were played by classic Italian tactics from the very first ball won by their centre half with added knee in the back to Hooper.
Still cant greet about it, we knew thats what we have to beat, we reached a level where our players who have done brilliantly to get here are up against a level of ‘professionalism/cheating/modern Football/favouring Big Countries’ that now goes with the game.
Cant blame anyone at the Club for not being able to compete against what we were up against tonight, its very similar to the Maldini and Nakamura incidents in the San Siro 08.
We need Jock Stein Majic to progress further in this competition now, we cant expect that from Neil Lennon or anyone else, it would be unfair.
Continued involvement in the Champions League Group Stage should be our main aim and it looks like it is our main aim, brilliant, its where we should be.
We were brilliant tonight.
Bhoys,
Just home. Team were really good most of the night. Juve average at football, exprts at cheating. Referee obviously on a rolex for his troubles. Big disappoint,ent, remembering the posts about ticket allocations and queues, was that the ‘fans’ who left early were all the big time Charlies; all the regulars in our area stayed to applaud the players and boo the referee.
This is still a good team. Hopemwe give them time and opportunity…
Hail Hail!
Just back from the game, apart from being exhausted and bemused by some of the officiating I am extremely proud of our team tonight. Neil and his pups will learn from this…..roll on Saturday.
Valentine’s day : totally agree, 80th minute and the johnny come lately’s start streaming out the ground, well feck off indeed, these are the same people that will be an empty seat on Saturday.
HH.
Cant criticise team Thought 1st half we played well Ambrose made 2 mistakes but longer term i dont think you can trust him at centre back Thats why he plays r/back for his country
Thought Lustig Izzy and Wilson did well and thought taking Commons off was a mistake as we lost the ability to hold ball up
Forrest? I said last season he is another Burchill/ Jamie Smith No heart no desire and cant play against strong physical gifted players I didnt know he was playing till he was booked How he stayed on for 90 mins is beyond belief
Im hoping big Fraser was only half fit cause that would explain his inept performance
We need to become more streetwise so hpefully tonite will be another learning step but to go further we need a physically strong striker for when we come against good defensive teams like tonite
I just can’t get my head around Neil playing Efe. In no way could he possibly be mentally or physically prepared after a tournament and a long haul flight. It’s a shame because I feel Efe was one of our star performers in the group stage so for him to endure that tonight was so unnecessary.
It’s been pretty much flawless from NL so far this european campaign. so to screw up as he did by picking efe is hard to take.
Otherwise, for 70 minutes that is honestly one of the best performances at home in europe I’ve seen from us in years. We had them pinned back for long periods and had we just got that goal it could have been a different story.
dessybhoy, 22:55
No, I thought it rather good myself
I’m just very very proud of Celtic tonight.
fourgreenfields
23:08 on
12 February, 2013
If there’s a team that should be able to deal with corrupt officials it’s us.
To be honest we got beat on the park by a team that was more clinical.
lessons have been learned by a young team that can only get stronger…if we can hold onto them.
O g, will it help make up for tonights disappointment
Ntassoolla
23:16 on 12 February, 2013
no, I’M Neil Lennon “i’ll never walk alone” (fourstonecoppi ) I disagree.
No-one is born corrupt.
I’ve met many hardworking , honest Italians. The majority.
To fight against corruption in Italy is to put your life on the line. Many have paid the price.
That Italians are turning away from football and its corruption is indicative of what they think of it.
It’s easy to pontificate but faced with the business end of corruption one mainly complies.
i apologise, of course your right……….just quoting him and should not make a sweeping generalisation of the italian people, many of whom are good and hardworking.
but as far as the football tonight is concerned and past encounters………grrr!
shimmies33
23:19 on
12 February, 2013
We should just write this season off for Forrest. Continuously injuries have affected his confidence. He’s at his best when he gets the ball wide and runs at, and usually past, defenders and gets crosses in. In addition he is a good finisher. On the few occasions we’ve seen him this season, he has always cut inside rather than do what he’s best at.
Pompey Boy
100 appearances? that seems a lot, are you sure Forrest has made that many?
OG, just in, only read a couple of pages back… Good news due soon?
Ah well, the wee bit of optimism we had built was battered tonight.
But let’s look at things with a touch of realism. Neil Lennon has the BIG-CUP in his sights, might just be a punchers chance, but that is his goal. If you listen to him, you’ll hear him talk about building a team. He is doing that, and it’s not finished, not by a long stretch. He knows what we need and perhaps the likes of Rogic will add that bit of creativity we need ? Experiences like tonight are part of our education too. Juventus, they were lots of things tonight: immense, cynical, got away with assaults and tellingly worked as hard and as passionately as Celtic.
Of course 3-0 was harsh, but a patched up Celtic team who made some bad mistakes and spurned the chances created ultimately lead to what appears to be a humbling.
It wasn’t a humbling of course and this season following Celtic has took me to the highs of a victory over Barcelona; three away wins in the CL; and 4 days in the Catalan sun with my son.
Onwards and upwards, our day will come.
Was quite surprised how quick their fizzio came on to tend an injured player. Years ago it used to take abt 10mins.
fergus slayed the blues
22:57 on
12 February, 2013
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Agreed with that. Thought we played well in the main, on balance not 3 goals in it (scoreline notwithstanding!). Referee was a joke in the fist half particularly, but the one on Lizzie in the second half was typical – trip on Lizzie, staggered and then fell, but no foul given – clearly a foul to Celtic. Performance of the MIB – reminiscent of the last referee performance in Turin.
Although we had a good number of chances, all of our shots went straight down the keeper’s throat – on another night, maybe these go in the corner, but alas, not to be tonight.
More annoying than the referee, or the scoreline, were the anti-Celtic glory-hunters who showed up as usual at the big games. “Mulgrew – you’re a disgrace!!! / Commons, git tae f**k. / etc.”. Arrogant tubes who show up at two games a season, and proceed and do nothing other than abuse the team. God willing we can produce an amazing result in Turin. However, if we don’t, the only slightly silver lining, is that these idiots won’t bother coming back to ‘support’ Celtic in any of our other games this season.
Sorry, I am not usually negative, but I really do wish these muppets would just do what they usually do when Celtic are playing – i.e. go somewhere else.
Anyway – good effort tonight from the Bhoys.
Hail, Hail
BGFC
faithfulthroughandthroughCSC
So Italians are all corrupt eh
Who says lazy racism is the property of the Huns?
People die fighting corruption in Italy. Many brave men and woman come under daily death threats for standing up to gangsters and political corruption.
Italians are not corrupt – any more so than the Irish are drunken murderous lunatics.
But Italian politics and government is corrupted and is run in the interests of a few powerful factions, and has been for the last 150 years.
This is Italy’s “dark heart”.
We are all annoyed at Juve’s cynicism tonight, but let’s not translate that into disturbing, casual racism, please?
First goal – Ambrose mistake – terrible play
Everything else – poor play.
I hate southern Europeans Spain, Portugal, france and Greece are not good people
Haven’t read back yet and I’m sitting waiting on highlights at half eleven, but I thought we were naive and they will think that they made mugs of us tonight. They will be laughing their heads off at that result.
The ref was a disgrace and I could quite happily post something libelous about him and a new Fiat, but it would be churlish to say that he cost us the game. Efe practically did that on his own!
I would have started Ambrose, so I’m not about to criticise our manager for doing the same, but he was a complete and utter disaster.
One of the few positives was seeing Izzy back to his very best and also that the young players we are developing do not look too uncomfortable at this level.
We live and learn and move on from a painful lesson.
T4
According to Wiki, I know, young James has made 60 starts, so give or 10%, well short of 100.
I thought we played well but were severely punished for our mistakes…what is noticeable at this level was that it took juventus three/four passes to get to the danger area but it takes us so many more by which time that are all very well organised at the back…..our main weapon should have been JF out wide but he played as if he was told go play through the middle….
OG OG where art though OG
ItaliaBhoy @ 23:27
Well said. It’s amazing how some Celtic fans, despite all their experiences, trials and tribulations, somehow take on the mantle of all they espouse to hate.
Just in from the game.
Disappointed with the score line, sure. But there was a lot to take heart from that performance.
Firstly the negative. Ambrose. Brave decision by Lennon to play him. Brave of Efe to play. It didn’t work out. Hope it hasn’t affected his confidence, I sincerely hope not. For in between giving away two goals and missing with an easy header, he actually played well. Would he have made the same mistakes if he hadn’t just played on Sunday night and then spent the best part of 2 days travelling back. We’ll never know.
Huge positives. Izzy, Wanyama, Lustig, Forrest and Wilson were all top notch. Commons and Mulgrew to a lesser extent with their first half performances.
As a team we harried and chased when we didn’t have the ball and we played some brisk intelligent football when in possession. Shots on target in the first half were unlucky to be too close to the keeper or just wide.
I’m guessing there will be plenty of discussion about the ref. So I’m not going to sully this post with my thoughts on it. But can anyone tell me what exactly the 5th and 6th officials do?
gordybhoy64, 23:22
I’d rather be thinking about how well we played, how far we’ve come and what it is to be a real football team who are starting to be noticed as Celtic and not connected to some now dead team.
That aside it will serve to highlight that very gap – and it will be squeaky bum time for two folk in particular who are deserving of their moment in the limelight
as_i_thought…
Surprised me too but checked online (wikipedia…so it must be true!)
86 games for Celtic in all first team competitions, 7 full Scotland caps, 4 u21 and 13 u19.
In some respect to tonight reminded me of McNeill/burns/Brady teams, ability but not streetwise however I do believe NFL looked at the options and decided to go for it. If didn’t work and we are still not streetwise to the blocking, pulling and down right cheating.
obonfanti1888
23:19 on 12 February, 2013
Otherwise, for 70 minutes that is honestly one of the best performances at home in europe I’ve seen from us in years. We had them pinned back for long periods and had we just got that goal it could have been a different story.
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sure was
the amount of corners and set pieces just begging for a big strong front man to hit up to
going to watch game again now
we have mugged a few teams over the years and tonight it was our turn to experiance it
going back to the ref and 2nd officials
if this had been in italy big questions would have been asked of a so called top ref ?
also juve have no chance imho of winning the big cup the way they got lucky tonight against celtic
jam67
Worst thing about tonight?
The M74 jeezo!!!!
Nice to inadvertently stubble upon the CQN gazebo crew lol
stevebhoy, 23:25
Tomorrow and the day after I think
Snake
Southern europeans are not good people…dearie. dearie me…since when was France in southern europe… a wee geography lesson me thinks >}
*stumble even
iPhone CSC
0-4 in Turin , been an adventure . Believe hail hail .
Izzy was tremendous tonight, great to see him back.
Thought Brown was also immense. Commons too put in a great shift.
However, what is the script with Ledley? This game should be tailor made for him – a decent passer, calm in possession, nothing flashy, goal threat…? Really, really surprised he didn’t make it.
And Forrest… I thought he was our poorest player (Efe apart, but at least you got the feeling Efe was trying). Forrest just looked lost. So many youngsters burst onto the scene at Celtic and just when you think they’re going to make it, they start fading away.
Hopefully this will not happen to James, but he was as good as a man down tonight.
Snake gie the sweeping generalisations a rest would ye..
It’s bad enough when Celtic lose..
o.g.rafferty.
Hope your news will put a smile back on our faces.hail hail.
On tonight’s evidence, with no defensive lapses, no missed sitters, no inexplicable refereeing decisions and a wee tiny bit of luck, we could have beaten this team by 2 goals. Anytime. Anywhere.
Of course I could be wrong, by one scrappy, sclaff of a deflected o.g. in the last minute of added time in Turin.
We can beat Juventus. Just beat them. Now there is definitely nothing to lose.