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I thought we were excellent most of the game yesterday. I was encouraged & surprised that we scored from a corner. On an earlier corner Daizen got a head to it & their goalie made a good save. On the goal, the corner was from the left this time, DM flicked it on from the near post & we Greg did the business at the far post. Very well worked, from a corner too – looked like practiced move. More of the same please.
JIMMY BONES
Double jeopardy applies where a player fouls an opponent when he makes a genuine attempt to play the ball. That is a booking. A deliberate foul stopping a goalscoring chance is a red card.
Same with an accidental hand ball. A deliberate hand ball preventing a goalscoring opportunity is a red card.
Understood, thanks Tom.
still one nil – hardly convincing.
we are on a five win streak – keeping the gap like that is a big ask but you feel like the football is improving under BR
TOM MCLAUGHLIN on 8TH OCTOBER 2023 1:16 PM
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Hi Tom, not sticking it to Celtic for not speaking out on the decisions in this hun game today, but the accumulation of decisions in favour of them and our opponents and against us.
The stats are piling up to say there is a problem that needs dealt with and Celtic should at least let the SFA know that they are recording these incidents to be presented as biased/incompetent/corrupt officiating.
We are winning due to having a better team and manager, but the officials are doing their best to keep the Huns relevant and in European competitions. If we weren’t this much better than them, these decisions could end up winning them the league.
I get the moaning about everything comes across as paranoia, but no one can claim the officials and their decisions are the same for us and them.
That’s the frustration that spills over from me and some others tbh. We’ve seen it for too long now and it’s about time Celtic let the SFA know “it will not stand!”
Quote from Walter Sobchak. 😃👍
Basically paying for a system that makes it easier for them to cheat more in favour of the Huns is not good enough.
do thems players get additional points for artistic impression when they fall down screaming at every oppertunity.
The scummy songbook in full spate: “F the pope and the IRA…”
No apology from commentary team. No editorial mentions after game neither I bet.
FC Rancid
Evil prospers when good men do nothing …🤔
full repatoire of banned songs now being heard without any mention or apologies from commentators .
Melvin Udall,
You actually want Celtic to complain about decisions regarding other teams?.Really?
This Hun team are absolutely dire.They are an irrelevance to us now.Hope Prague are watching these games.
Tom and Turkebhoy .,I bow to your wisdom and by the book you are probably right .,but can you give me a recent precedent involving Celtic or Sevco ..where a penalty was given and the offending player was then sent off ? 🤔
Oh dear ..correct as someone predicted earlier 3-0 to the Gallant Cheats …fine days work by officialdom ..,they will all be able to tell their sons and grandsons ..how great the mighty Gers are …sad , predictable and pathetic ..,because after all “ Thems are ra peepul “🤣
7pts clear at the top.
Livescore( i dont watch thems) saying St Mirren did not have a shot on target.
Till later all
CD 23, Celtic Ladies v Glasgow City just the other night.
What a surprise, eh. Huns get a penalty, whoda thunk it
Sickening
KINGLuBO
I hate to say I told you so. It’s a crooked game in fair Caledonia. Just got the timing of the first goal wrong but you can’t have everything. Collecting over a grand for that. Favourite charity will be happy.
It was a stonewaller.
And 10 man saints were pish.
QUADROPHENIAN on 8TH OCTOBER 2023 1:44 PM
The scummy songbook in full spate: “F the pope and the IRA…”
No apology from commentary team. No editorial mentions after game neither I bet.
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Quadrophenian,
We are in a glass house on this topic
The Drum & Megaphone group in the corner opposite the GB, regale us every home game with the add-on
“F the Queen and the UDA”
Yesterday we also had
“Cheer Up Derek McInnis , Sad Orange B …etc.
Plus the song, to the tune of She’ll Be Coming Round the Mountain.
Sounds like it was written in crayon by a bunch of primary school kids
..about Rangers fans, jumping out of sky scrapers, landing on railings during an ambulance strike, meeting Davie Cooper in Hell, etc
… and
” if you hate the f…ING Rangers clap your hands”
I think it has about 10 verses.
…and to add insult to my injured ears, the guy with the megaphone , starts every song in a key so high and off key, that they have to drop two octaves in the first two lines, on every song .
Apart from that , they have potential. 😀
The Onlooker
XFactorCSC
still not convinced the ‘red card’ was for a deliberate hand ball from the tv cameras.
Sometimes they get legit calls.
The St Mirren right back handled it. If he doesn’t it is a tap in.
It is a penalty and a red.
My disappointment is in the St Mirren players rather than the ref and VAR.
I knew when they went to 10 men, they’d win 3-0.
It was obvious.
Annoying? Yes.
Untoward?
No. Not on this occasion.
Think that’ll be Strain’s job application completed for a move in January.
maybe I’m showing my age but a red card for handball in the box should only be given if you deliberately stopped the ball from going into the net for a goal other than that a handball ball in the box should be a yellow offence.
handball and redcard
https://downloads.theifab.com/downloads/presentation-of-all-changes-and-clarifications-to-the-laws-2022-23?l=en#:~:text=Where%20a%20player%20denies%20the,goalkeeper%20within%20their%20penalty%20area).&text=The%20Law%20is%20clear%20that,offence%20against%20an%20outside%20agent.
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3. Disciplinary action
Denying a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity (DOGSO)
Where a player denies the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by a
handball offence, the player is sent off wherever the offence occurs (except a goalkeeper within
their penalty area).
Jimmy Bones
I also thought double jeopardy might apply here but apparently not.
THE ONLOOKER @ 2:13
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Yes indeed – we have our own scum.
Why they are not only put up with, but positively handled by our club, astounds me. Giving them their own area in the standing section was a mistake – a mistake that needs to be rectified now. Tickets for away fixtures also need looking at.
99% of Celtic supporters have nothing in common with these people. They cost us a fortune in fines and inflict damage to the club’s reputation wherever they go and whenever they open their mouths.
I say to those on here who, like a broken record, constantly bleat about the Ibrox mob – “stones & glasshouses”
Tom MCL
Thanks for clarifying ref double jeopardy. I understand that now.
Can you or annyone explain why anyone would deliberately seek to handle the ball in the full scrutiny of TV and VAR. I don’t get that. My feeling was this chap instinctively put his hand forward for balance ergo should have been a pen but a yellow. I accept what you say that it could be interpreted as deliberate and therefore a pen but how can anyone tell if it was deliberate ?
As an aside as someone who does see these things as being officiated fairly please can you answer why when Goldson literally pushed the St Mirren forward with his arm into the advertising hoarding behind the goal the and the referee did not give a foul and therefore a penalty just prior to half time ?
These things are the ones which really do frustrate me.
The decision today to award a penalty and issue a red card are correct as per the laws of the game.
I think the laws need to be revised.
The solution to the excessive punishment ” double jeopardy” for such offences would be to take a leaf out of rugby’s rules…. penalty try.
If the offence has prevented a goal scoring opportunity, award a penalty goal.
Allow the player who was fouled, ( or prevented from scoring by a handball) to kick the ball into an EMPTY net from 6 yards.
Issue a yellow card to the culprit.
This would allow a fair game to continue 11 v 11
and would also fix the anomaly of penalty takers increasing their goals scored stats.
Finally , knowing that a certain goal would be the outcome ,may also prevent the defender from committing the offence in the first place.
The Onlooker
Cloud9
Ah but they collect money for good causes you know.
You are spot on. It’s was celebrating Palestine day yesterday. Not sure many of them have even watched Fauda on Netflix never mind understand the complex history involved. I am not an Israeli sympathiser (probably the opposite if I had to be pigeonholed) but yesterdays display was crass.
RC
still not convinced the ‘red card’ was for a deliberate hand ball from the tv cameras.
You are correct. It wasn’t a hand ball from a TV camera. It was a St Mirren defender who handled the ball.
TOM MCLAUGHLIN on 8TH OCTOBER 2023 3:31 PM
RC
You are correct. It wasn’t a hand ball from a TV camera. It was a St Mirren defender who handled the ball.
smart ass
THE ONLOOKER
I have always advocated the use of a ‘penalty goal’ in football, but only where a ball heading for a certain goal is stopped by a player’s hand or arm.
Goal-scoring opportunities can still be missed, so no penalty goal for those.
Ghirls win 6 nil v motherwell
“99% of Celtic supporters have nothing in common with these people. They cost us a fortune….”
– I’m late to this one but count me in. Those Tory bassas sitting in the south stand are an absolute disgrace to our club and all it stands for.
#EfftheTories
HH
I am waiting on the ARSENAL v MAN.CITY to be a 2-2 Draw at odds of 11/1.
I ALREADY have TWO Correct score on the same Lucky 15 line…..
BRIGTON v LIVERPOOL …2-2 at odds of only 9/1.
AND
WEST HAM v NEWCASTLE….2-2 at odds of 11/1.
So i have TWO SINGLES and a DOUBLE UP….with the Arsenal v Man City game to come.
As I Posted this morning, those are SHAMEFUL ODDS from BETFRED for CORRECT SCORES…However, I wont care too much IF I also get the Arsenal v Man City score line correct, which will give me THREE Correct Scores outta FOUR Selections ?
LOL
HH
HH
BIG WAVY on 8TH OCTOBER 2023 3:59 PM
“99% of Celtic supporters have nothing in common with these people. They cost us a fortune….”
– I’m late to this one but count me in. Those Tory bassas sitting in the south stand are an absolute disgrace to our club and all it stands for.
#EfftheTories
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POST of the WEEK Mate.
Good wan.
HH
TOM MCLAUGHLIN on 8TH OCTOBER 2023 1:16 P
Strain was an absolute idiot for handling the ball 2 yards from goal, especially with var looking on. Never going to get away with it. He deserved to walk as it was a clear goalscoring opportunity. He let his ream and his manager down.
sore ass
After the handball incident I heard Kenny misser say ‘ you can’t get away with that nowadays with VAR ‘ – unless of course it’s at ipox
Here’s the Souttar dive where the ref gave him a free kick
https://twitter.com/dr1888/status/1710980689758155173?s=48