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Good morning good ghuys from a dry but damp North Glasgow
50 shades great post
Big Stevie Clarke by the way Kev J is only 5ft 10
Not a great performance but typical end of season fare.
Bigger fish to fry in a fortnight.
Have a good day all, the coal face beckons
D. :)
Bain, McGregor and Tierney (what a player / athlete). And mini-Hendo, Ewan looks a stylish and confident player.
Oh, and Armstrong for at least trying to go forward with the ball.
And a wee late show from Paddy on the wing which hopefully will see him on the way back to his form that we know he is capable of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y6aaS2JXGE
Sheffield Wed gave a nice send-off to Glen Loovens and Ross Wallace
Think for Celtic to be seeded in the final round.
Liverpool need at least a draw as they are 2 points and loads of goals in front of Chelsea.
If Liverpool fail to take a point and Chelsea win , I am sure we need Liverpool to win the Champions league.
So we need Liverpool to atleast draw on Saturday against Brighton or to win the big cup, happy to be proved wrong.
It would have been difficult enough to break down an ultra defensive Killie team last night with all three of our strikers available but to do so with none of them as always going to be a big ask. Clarke has, rightly, received a lot of plaudits for his transformation of Killie, but they are worst team in the league to watch. In a meaningless end of season game why not even have a go at a Celtic team full of bench fillers and youngsters? No shots in 90 minutes, other than Hendry’s excellent block late on, Bain could have sat in the seat next to me in the Main Stand. Hendry isn’t a right back, but I feel his spell in this position is with next season in mind when we play three at the back, especially in Europe, and he will be used as the right side of the three. Calvin Miller doesn’t look good enough at left back to be a squad player and needs to go out on loan and play every week. Roberts, Forrest, Sinclair, all tried as striker, all failed. Why not give Aitchison a chance last night? Typical end of season fare, hope to see as close to Cup Final starting 11 as available on Sunday and end the season with a comprehensive win. Those who buy STs deserve it after having to endure mainly dross in the league at home this season. 7 home draws in 18 home league games (4 of them 0-0) is not good enough and needs to be addressed for next season,
Congratulations to Hearts.
This season,for the first time in my life, they have outdone the huns in being the most vile, despicable and loathsome club in Scottish football.
Everything about them, on and off the pitch, is utterly, utterly rank.
Good morning from a bright and sunny Dumbreck as I read back this morning it brought tears to my eyes as I lamented the thoughts of great Celtic managers who never were: ??
Mark McGhee
Jim McLean
Stevie Clarke
Artur Jorge
ERNIE LYNCH on 10TH MAY 2018 8:22 AM
Congratulations to Hearts.
This season,for the first time in my life, they have outdone the huns in being the most vile, despicable and loathsome club in Scottish football.
Everything about them, on and off the pitch, is utterly, utterly rank
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100% agree – Nurse Ratched get me my pills ?
Pog
Add Walter Smith, Craig Levein and Jim Jeffries to that list of desired anti-football managers. And, while we’re “at it” (as he, assuredly, is), Helenio Herrera knew how to park a bus and frustrate that useless Jock Stein guy.
It’s only a matter of time
JOHN51….. from yesterday
Thanks for that,mate. Very nice indeed.
I didn’t know Colin Hay was from Saltcoats,every day’s a school day on here,right enough. And every secondary school day of mine was spent in Saltcoats!!!
HH
Morning all
Sunny in G20. Not sure it will last.
Not great last night – predictably so. The front three used last night was terrific last season but Sinclair and Roberts are shadows of the players of a year ago. I wonder if either will ever start a game for us again. Miller played well at Rugby Park in August but I cannot see any development since then- I really cannot see him making it.
Ewan Henderson looked good though whilst Big Jozo looked, what he should be, a quality centre back.
A thought arose after our disallowed goal is att I have never understood why players stand offside before free kicks are taken. Just means they will be offside once it is taken as they never return to an onside position until the ball is in play. Cos
Jimbo67
Word of The Day (The Rainjurz ur coming – again ….)
Anthropomorphosis. /ˌænθrəpəˈmɔːfəsɪs/
noun
1. transformation into human form
Word Origin of anthropomorphosis
First recorded in 1860-65; anthropo- + (meta)morphosis
KTF
Brought a (cynical), Arsenal-following mate with me last night as my usual mucker was in absentia. When wee Paddy was hauled back then down and Beathun only spoke to the Killie player, no booking, my mate said “Ah, now I see what you go on about and what you have to face up to”. Good to have it confirmed by fresh, uninvolved eyes.
Delany’s Dunky, nice to meet you, and your son, at last – imagine us ‘living’ so close to each other all these years! Always good to put faces to names. See you Sunday at The Party.
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So what’s the word for the regression from human form to sub-human form, which most huns seem to have undergone…..personified by Morelos, Gregor Stevens?, Stewart Kennedy and The Elephant Man ?
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So some of us are complaining about a 0-0 draw last night against a team who parked the bus in what was basically a meaningless game. Well we didn’t play with any recognised strikers last night and most of the season our top strikers have been injured having featured in about only 50% of the games. Our third striker Odsonne is young and a loanee so didn’t feature much.
Our top goal scorer is Scott Sinclair, who by his standards and everybody else’s opinion is having a poor season. None of our strikers are likely to finish on 20 goals this season due to injury.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/celtic/top-scorers
BTW, we still won the league at a canter and are on course for a possible double treble.
Ernielynch
Steady, but I do know what you mean. I personally despise them both. It was a body blow seeing Hibs lose last night, it almost felt like a Celtic loss to me, really.
I’m kinda hoping we lose to the sheep if it means hunbigot being 3rd, sad really!
KINGLuBO
5 0-0 Draws since Master Murty turned up at Celtic park at NEw year
4 at home
: > (
Get Mark Mcghee in now
KINGLUBO
Possible scenario…
Sevco finish second,but are denied EUFA licence. King uses this as a pretext to water down the finances available for their new manager.
Sevco struggle again next season,SG drops heavy hints that this is due to the quality of players he inherited. King and Traynor have their usual mid-season brainstorm and fire SG for being in breach of contract by bad-mouthing the board.
They also attempt to justify this by explaining that despite huge investment(!) SG has not improved on the previous season’s 2nd place.
You heard it here first…
Champions League qualification
The likely Czech champions have a slightly better coefficient than Celtic which makes us 5th seeded side in the qualification process and there are now only 4 ties in the final play off round. But as part of the new format for the Champions League, the following affects qualification seeding …
“If the UEFA Champions League holders have qualified for the group stage via their domestic championship, the vacancy will be filled by the champions of the association ranked 11th (Czech Republic), who otherwise compete in the champions path”
Real Madrid have already qualified for the group stages and if they win the CL final, then the Czech champions will automatically enter the group stages, promoting Celtic to 4th top seeds and so seeded in there final (plus all preceding) rounds.
If Liverpool win or at least take a point against Brighton at home on Saturday (goal difference currently +15 over Chelsea) then they qualify for CL group stages next season. If Liverpool win CL final, Celtic will again be seeded through all qualification rounds.
So let’s hope for a Liverpool result on Saturday at home to Brighton and then it doesn’t matter who wins the CL final- we’ll be seeded in final Play Off round likely with Salzburg, Ludogorets and PSV Eindhoven.
The ever excellent Bert Kassies has it all here ..
https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/seedcl2018.html
JC2
And blanks drawn at Rugby Park and St Petersburg. No sane person thinks we should have the Bigs Mark or Steve or Graeme instead of Brendan but it is not an impressive statistic.
But if we win a week on Saturday it is still a season I have loved.
Jimbo67
Mark McGhee, Jim McLean, Stevie Clarke. Would Celtic have fared better in terms of winning trophies, with these guys at the helm? Would we have fared better in Europe? There is no way of knowing. Let’s hypothesis that they would… Not sure I would have been watching.
The Celtic way (not the lockbloc drive, the ethos) is hard to define in a tangible form, but I do know it doesn’t involve the style of football we would have to suffer, if one of those three gentlemen were managing Celtic.
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GREENBINGLEYINOSLO
A wonderful story about your friend, and it sounds like a fitting tribute to him. Slàinte to you and your mate, when you pour those last two drams, when we win the 10.
HH
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Gave last night a miss, Hated doing so but the foul weather and team line up made me make a decision- based on previous midweek torture shows – not to bother. I made the right choice.
Roll on Sunday and Cup Final day…. and then two months today as we open our European campaign! !
I think there are only 2 things to say about last night: why did Kilmarnock not try to play and we need a Plan B to overcome the 10 man defense that most teams now employ against us.
That was a boring farce of a match. Clarke may have got a lot of plaudits this season but I can’t begin to understand why he played such a system in what was effectively a meaningless game.
The only upside I can offer is that that may be exactly how Motherwell will play in the Final, albeit a lot more agriculturally.
I thought our “goal” should have stood. Didn’t look offside to me.
Was Mark McGhee not oversee one of the great results of all time at Celtic Park ..
Celtic 9 Aberdeen 0
Asking for a friend:))
embramike says ” Yer team’s deid…Beat it!” – What happens if Liverpool get beat on Saturday and Chelsea win, but win the Big Cup? Are we then unseeded for the final round?
My friends in Celtic,
Two thoughts :-
1) Don’t buy into this Hibs love in. Couldn’t care who comes second as long as we are first.
2) We do not need a bigger capacity when we play midweek games against boring teams.
HH.
HUNDERBIRDS ARE GONE on 10TH MAY 2018 10:51 AM
Mark McGhee, Jim McLean, Stevie Clarke. Would Celtic have fared better in terms of winning trophies, with these guys at the helm? Would we have fared better in Europe? There is no way of knowing. Let’s hypothesis that they would… Not sure I would have been watching.
The Celtic way (not the lockbloc drive, the ethos) is hard to define in a tangible form, but I do know it doesn’t involve the style of football we would have to suffer, if one of those three gentlemen were managing Celtic.
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Have to disagree with you regarding Jim McLean. He was a great football manager – a horrible wee nyaff of a human being – but a great football manager. There was nothing wrong either with his team’s style of football. United we’re not ultra defensive but we’re a very fast counter attacking team who passed the ball accurately and had done great players: Hegarty, Narey, Milne, Gallagher, Sturrock who would all have enhanced the Celtic team of the time. McLean’s team beat Barca twice at Nou Camp, won the League, a couple of League Cups and reached a Eufa Cup Final and a European Cup Final.
He also said after winning a League Cup tie 3-0 at Celtic Park when the Celtic support stayed behind and sung their hearts out in support of the team that if United had the Celtic support behind them they would be unstoppable.
Credit where it is due.
JOCKODEE on 10TH MAY 2018 11:18 AM
embramike says ” Yer team’s deid…Beat it!” – What happens if Liverpool get beat on Saturday and Chelsea win, but win the Big Cup? Are we then unseeded for the final round?
If Liverpool lose at home to Brighton and Chelsea win away to Newcastle, Liverpool drop to 5th and so miss the CL group stages. If then Liverpool were to win the CL final, the EPL would have 5 teams in the group stages as …
“An association may have a maximum of five teams in the group stage”
The Czech team would stay in Play Off round and we would likely end up 5th seeds having to play one of the seeded teams to reach group stage. Possible opponents then likely be Salzburg (EL semi-finalists this season), Ludogorets, PSV Eindhoven or Victoria Plzen.
Let’s hope Liverpool get a result on Sunday !
THEORIGINALSADIESBHOY
I agree with HUNDERBIRDSAREGONE on this. And I agree with you too!
I think you are both arguing different points. HUNDERBIRDSAREGONE is pointing out the sterility of much of McLean’s approach-don’t lose a goal and if we score,we’ve won. I hated playing them for that reason.
You are rightly pointing out that he maxed out the ability of his players to match that system. And yes,he had some great players in that system. For starters,I would have loved to have had David Narey and-one you missed-Maurice Malpas in our team.
But…
How many were effective elsewhere?
And that raises a third argument about him. Was he a great manager or a one-dimensional one,no Plan B?
No axe to grind either way on this,just a serious question. Remember how fast Dundee Utd went downhill when that team retired,he couldn’t adapt.
new article posted.
The excuse it’s hard to break down a packed defense is valid enough but when our team create the conditions for a packed defense we cannot make excuses.
Our wide forwards like JF,Sinclair and Roberts are now conditioned to face backwards when receiving the ball and the inevitable recycling begins allowing opponents to hold defensive positions with ease.
Sinclair last night ran on to a good through ball once and almost scored.The rest of the game he took the easy way out and passed backwards.
I can’t recall Paddy or James once running onto a through ball.
The young guy Miller looked terrified of missing a pass so stuck to the simple ineffective backwards and sideways.
Young Henderson had some positive contributions but will his introduction to first team be dependent on him following our possession above all mantra?
Kilmarnock have conceded 47 goals in 37 games so their defense is hardly a fortress.
That we have managed to score 1 goal in our last three games against is more a reflection of our play than their defensive brilliance.