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I still have idea if the sevco central defenders are any good.
HH jg
Well , Sevco will (hopefully) never get an easier game at CP than that .
How has it got to this? 8 seasons on from being bust and in the fourth tier , they are now able to put a better team out on the park than we can? That’s actually a question that DD , the board and management should be asking.
Missing players is a part excuse, but it seems that Gerrard has definitely got the measure of Lenny.
Only one team was properly prepared for this game . Only one team was focusing on the ten …….the one that wants to stop it .
Whilst that was not the end of the world, it was a strong indicator that without change, 10IAR is riding into the sunset,
You reap what you sow.
Lawwell giving Lennon the job in the showers was done because of the way Rodgers publicly tore him to shreds, so cronyism became the order of the day,
Lawwell got his yes man, a guy sacked from Hibs and Bolton, who was never suitably qualified for the post.
All to suit Lawwell, not the club.
Lawwell’s number two is a guy who never coached anywhere except Celtic…the ultimate jobs for the boys.
His number three is Lawwell’s pals son..the ultimate cronyism.
Celtic regard themselves as a world renowned club.
The fan base is.
However, when you see the way the club selects its major appointments through ‘who you know’ rather than the required ability to hold such positions, then today was on the cards.
We made average players in the sevco team look quality.
All down to their standard of coaching and the contrast with Lawwell’s cronies.
Root out the cancer, metaphorically speaking, Peter Lawwell, and bring in a general manager who will recruit on merit.
Thought Neils pre match interview set the scene. He was downbeat and complaining about lack of time, players out etc. Everything looks disjointed on the park. No fluidity from midfield to attack. Only good thing is that we have been poor all season and sit only 4 points behind with a game in hand. It surely has to get better.
FAVOURITE UNCLE on 17TH OCTOBER 2020 2:49 PM
On a brighter note MORE OR LESS has still not scored against us.
Oh, am much relieved about that. NOT.
our attitude today should have been “We are not getting beat today.”
I thought that was the intention when we started with 1 up front , but I forgot we can’t defend period , so we selected a starting 11that couldn’t win today.
Por Cierto,
No ,we have not seen much of Barkas yet,because he has had eff all to do except pick the ball out of the net.A couple of penalties,a couple of horrible deflections,around 4 goals he had no chance with.No great saves to make in any of the games,which normally should be a good thing.Unless you are trying to say he should have saved those today.
On a further brighter note, Jules is good on BT Sports.
RC,
You were not saying that before the game.Myself and others did.
Barkas should have done better with the first one today. Watching again makes that very clear.
I still have idea if the sevco/thems central defenders are any good.
one thing I do know is that they are far better organised defenders than ours
Duffy was poor but he was not alone.
Duffy had played 300 minutes of football in last 10 days before today and has been to & back from both Slovakia & Finland.
Apart from Laxalt I’m struggling to find anyone who played well,
NFL obviously watching a completely different game of football from the rest of us.
‘Chasing the game after the second goal….’ aye, like a slug chasing a hare.
HH jg
LAMBERT 14,
Bollox to your PL crap.Cant be arsed listening to it after today.You been sitting waiting with it,FFS.
Darren Fletcher nails it – “Celtic looked like they had no plan, no patterns of play and no identity” – management issue.
Celtic look like a bunch of players but no shape perhaps relying on individual bits of play – management issue
Nuff said
FAVOURITE UNCLE
I wouldn’t care if Morelos scored a hat-trick against us if we’d won 4-3.
Our targets used to be set a little higher than who doesn’t score against us in a drubbing.
SAINT STIVS on 17TH OCTOBER 2020 2:35 PM
‘yip, the chicken lickens sky fallin in brigade, the Neil Lennon haters, the people who never played football or managed a team, or put out a set of cones, the know it alls that never ran a business.’
Ahh yes, the ‘you can only have an opinion if it’s on your chosen field’ argument. Always a good one to pull out.
Also, I don’t hate Neil Lennon. He’s just a average manager. There is a myopic, small mindedness on here amongst some; I don’t care about race, creed, colour- just that you are good for Celtic.
Neil is here because he is a good tim, not a good manager.
‘We will come back, it has been that way for 10 seasons’
Except it hasn’t really. Trailing a skint Motherwell team with no quality against Sevco with a team of internationals getting to the quarter final of the EL is a slightly different propoition; still, stick your head in the sand/grab your comfort blank of what happened 3 or 5 or 8 years ago.
Neil has not learned from last season against sevco. I see nothing to suggest he will learn now. So with that in mind,changing manager is hard that stupid.
Still, clap away.
IniquitousIV
I totally agree – i’m not convinced we would have done much better
with everyone available. We have seen that game quite a few times ths
season and have benn bailed out by Ajeti v United, Griff v St Johnstone etc,
We are lacking a spark and as I said earlier Griff should have started even
if he could only play for an hour.
TURKEYBHOY on 17TH OCTOBER 2020 2:54 PM
RC,
You were not saying that before the game.Myself and others did.
what I did say before the game was the time for analysis was’ after’ the game and to get behind the starting 11, not slagging them off prior to a Glasgow derby.
It shouldn’t be that difficult against a team full of average players that has played the same way for 2 years.
Hopefully no one will be using the missing players as an excuse, that was a purely tactical defeat.
As Roberttressell said it’s early enough in the season fir the damage to be limited, as long as lessons are learned quickly
We had about 50m + at transfer window to drive us to ten in a row
But we have Peter lawell and Neil Lennon and a John Kennedy.
Any road, when did we make things easy for ourselves? Let’s see what happens when they’re confirmed favorites and have to face a bit of adversity like we have
I’m going only on impressions , but Barkas seems to be a quiet character, in a bit of a shell . Oh for a wee bit of Boruc gallusness/confidence , call it what you will . A bit more vocal , a bit more commanding , more of a presence in his box .
Where to start with that?
The first half was bad.
Half time the manager gets an opportunity to attempt at a salvage job while still technically in the game, he thinks nothing is the answer.
We could have easily been down 4 nil in 15 minutes.
Just 2 then makes changes as his players are looking dejected and already beaten.
The second half was absolutely horrific.
That’s the biggest worry for me, he needed a reaction and it got much worse.
The bigger gamble is now to keep him in place, that really pains to say that about a legend.
Trying to hit 40 yard diagonals to Frimpong was the final straw.
Our playmaker, is the worst passer in the team, Duffy.
Yes Sevco are leaving him on the ball as he’ll just give them it back but we need to find another way or they are dictating the play.
Their is zero strategy or coaching that anyone can see.
I thought that second half performance was the worst in years, or at least since St Johnstone in our last game, we couldn’t string 2 passes together, no surprises here.
Something has to give or change or no 10 we’ve even played the easier fixtures.
Decent points Ad Dun.
Was thinking the same myself – we’ve not had a settled team, particularly at the back and upfront, from day 1.
this is not a reaction to a defeat against rangers – this has been the same reaction to many many games leading to this point. We are just not a good football team and its ONLY down to the coaching.
This is the Scottish league and we have better players than all clubs in that league. The only reason we are not showing it, is down to tactics and man management.
Put Lennon out of his misery and bring in someone to get this team up the park and enjoying their football
MNCELT 2.52.
Agreed.
Goldson said after the game we play the same shape and have been for 2 years.
Celtic didn’t appear to have any shape.
Corkie.
I usually agree with you and today is no different, one small point, if we win game in hand, we are only one point behind.
Saint Stivs.
The players and manager deserve any criticism that come their way today, you have to go back to 1997 for the last time they won 2 consecutive league games at Celtic Park.
If Frimpong or anyone else has 2 doubling up, good coaching can alleviate it,no movement whatsoever, never in behind them all game,abysmal
GLENDALY – Scott Bain has a cheeky personality and seemed to talk to defenders a lot.
Their second goal was a bit of a pinball machine, but we need better communication, which seems sketchy.
Come back Chris Jullien; all is forgiven!! hh
TURKEYBHOY on 17TH OCTOBER 2020 2:56 PM
Are you a Lawwell fanboy?
Who gave Lennon the job?
What did you think of no one else even being interviewed or considered for the job and the job going to someone sacked from Hibs and Bolton?
Would you say that our CEO who is paid much more than similar CEOs was earning his obscene bonus?
11 years since we last had 0 shots on target
clap clap.
clap clap
clap clap
clap your hands
clap clap
As bad as today was, it will be another level of meltdown if we don’t win at Pittodrie.
Milan game bit of an unwanted distraction now.
Lennon didn’t say much really. Strikers out or not match fit; Moi miss changed the game; work on it etc
He looked as deflated as the rest of us .
5 defenders in the team plus a defensive midfielder in a 3-6-1, what did he expect in terms of creating chances
Best 3 for me
Laxalt (despite headless chicken at second goal)
McGregor (despite playing too far back in this system)
Klimala (for his effort, not his actual play)
Bottom 3
Duffy
Frimpong
Ntcham
Saint Stivs.
The players and manager deserve any criticism that come their way today, you have to go back to 1997 for the last time they won 2 consecutive league games at Celtic Park.
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that was a different rangers.
we should have saved the transfer fee for Barkas and gave it to big Fraser in wages.
CORKCELT on 17TH OCTOBER 2020 2:42 PM
‘Probably our worst showing against the Huns for a long long time.’
Our worst showing since last November…
It is seriously worrying how Stevie G has Neil in his back pocket.