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Good result tonight after giving away a cheap goal but not impressed with the overall performance.
Still. Nice to see us grind out a decent result.
MWD
My thoughts on the game before I flick back.
Their goal-usual,crap defending from a set-piece,and the way they lined up for it? Well,they’d done their homework.
At that stage,and for the next stage of the game,we were dead in the water.
Then Dan had a free given against him for eff all in the right-back position-not the first dodgy decision from the ref-and it seemed as though the team decided…….
RIGHT,THAT’S IT,ENUFFSENUFF!
From that moment on,the defence were impregnable-by previous standards-and Stokes was on the prowl.
Kayal and Wanyama OWNED that mob in the midfield.
Samaras,on the other hand,was EVERYWHERE,every blade of grass.
Every tackle,every header,every defensive block,every faffing EVERYTHING that man was there.
It was a MAGNIFICENT performance from a much-maligned player,and one who stepped up to the plate.
BIG TIME!
The rest of the team don’t rate a mention,only earning 8/10 IMO…..
Not bad for a team who hate their manager…..
MWD, you should have said…… you ran oot of happy pills?
Wee Derryghirl has a plethora of them pain patches that fair cheer ye up will I fire up a few :¬)
Naw TBH MWD I was very happy with the performance, you get out of it what you put in, and we put it in tonight IMO
Loads of room for improvement, but as you say big yin, a step forward.
V
HH to ye!
ps MWD you need a night out in Blackpool :¬)
V
HH
CQN, earier today in the Scottish Parliament, Christine Grahame was talking about the new legislation. We should continue to fight this!
It is simply astonishing that such a bad piece of legislation could become law. This legislation criminalises behaviour which will not be criminalised at other sporting events or other demonstrations or marches – that in itself is offensive to & biased against football fans!
Everyone agrees we would like something to be done to stamp out sectarianism, however introducing totally ridiculous (for law) and subjective term “offensive behaviour” leaves this bill wide open to abuse and challenge. This new legislation is simply not needed, proper implementation of existing legislation IS needed. There’s been years of failure by Police to implement existing laws ?
Under existing legislation, the police have continually communicated that the challenge with implementing it is the numbers involved in breaking the law and the safety of officers is paramount – what changes under this new legislation? It simply widens the criteria for committing a crime (& widens it too far & subjectively)
My suggestion on how this should be addressed, is draw a line under what has went on previously, draw a line under the abject failure of the Scottish footballing authorities and Police to deal with the problem, for once we should take UEFA’s lead and use a footballing solution (sanctions) to the footballing element of the problem. Why has the SFA & SPL ignored this issue for so long and not taken the lead from UEFA dealing with this problem? The Scottish Government, should put pressure on the footballing authorities to accept responsibility for dealing with sectarianism in football grounds, give them one or 2 seasons to implement and manage a set of sanctions which will be communicated clearly to all clubs and fans.
Clear video evidence of sectarian or racist behaviour or chanting by a group of supporters in or around the stadium will result in;
1st Offence – Warning
2nd Offence – Fine
3rd Offence – closed doors home game
4th Offence – closed doors home game + points deduction
I would be more than surprised if any group of fans got beyond the 3rd offence – the fans and clubs would have a real focus to police and get rid of the problem. This has not been attempted by the authorities. This WILL ensure the problem is eradicated from our stadiums.
There is of course the wider societal issue of sectarianism, football is not responsible for these and can only help influence with firstly sorting its own house as outlined above and then help with the continual education of their followers, you must remember it was only a little over 20 years ago RFC signed their 1st high profile RC, a lot has changed for the better since then, we simply need to continue this progress.
This wider societal problem can only be addressed when it is understood. There is is very little data in the public domain which shows what the problem is and how it manifests itself on our streets. therefore the Scottish Government should commission a gathering and analysis of the data the Crown Office had but “lost”. Only then can we fully understand how the sectarian problem manifests itself on Scotland’s streets and only then can appropriate measures be put in place to address it.
Anecdotal evidence as provided by the police and SNP at the witness gathering for this legislation is of no use. Give us the hard facts of how the existing sectarian legislation has worked (or failed) in Scotland, detailed anaylsis of all information available for each conviction under existing sectarian legislation is the only way we can fully understand the problem and be able to address it through education and legislation.
There are spikes in domestic violence on many other dates throughout the year, these dates tend to be opportunities for many in our nation to abuse alcohol and there will be a far closer correlation to sectarian crime and domestic violence with alcohol abuse than with any football match or indeed sectarian march. eg Someone at game or a march who is guilty of a sectarian crime, I would suggest 9/10 times the individual will be intoxicated. This is a different issue, however one which must be considered, and I do accept the SNP are attempting to address this societal problem. It should be noted it is an offense to enter a stadium whilst drunk, why is this not implemented?
To provide a concise question. How can the SNP introduce legislation without understanding the problem? Can the SNP commit to gathering the information promised to Prof Tom Devine during the witness gathering (by the Justice committee chaired by Christine Grahame)? Why Not ?
And finally, what is a crime and not a crime under this law. If I sing about the IRA is it a crime? Or does it depend on which IRA I’m referring to? Or does it depend on which IRA a “reasonable person” thinks I’m referring to? I am offended by God Save the Queen, from a political and nationalist perspective – I do not believe it should be made illegal under any circumstances – do the SNP? I could enter a stadium and sing a song which no one in that stadium finds offensive, I could sing the very same song in the same stadium a different day and some people may find it offensive, which instance is illegal (if any) and how am I to know?
I do not necessarily agree with singing of political songs at football, however political expression should never be made illegal! Is it right to pick and choose which political songs are ok and which aren’t? Is it right to dictate to a minority that their political singing is illegal because it is not the popular held view? Is it right to stop people singing nationalist songs of pride, because of the nation the songs are about?
I am hopefull this legislation will not pass, however if implemented it appears to me the bill itself could be deemed racist and offensive.
I apologise for my lack of brevity. This legislation is so wrong on so many levels.
Magic tonight Celtic and don’t want to take anything away from the performance and result, however fighting this legislation is crucial to the future of our support.
hh
bjmac
bjmac I think we’re all with you and that you have read the detail and understood the risk. but if you don’t tell us what you think we should do. Ehmmmmm
Good evening for all Global Bhoys like myself lurking late at night!
Didn’t manage to see the game tonight but got the updates from my old man who was there.
How did we do? It seems positives were Wanyama, Sammy and Forster.
I like reading that we showed a bit more fight tonight, because we will need a lot of that on Sunday against those feckers…
Without being all doom and gloom after a great night for us, I am going to refrain from singing the praises of Lenny because in all honesty I still don’t think this result means he should be given longer. Make no mistake about it, if we do not win on Sunday, I think he needs to go…
I am only saying this because there are far too many on here who want to stick the knife in after bad results and performances, and are probably the same people who sing from the valleys after nights like tonight.
But hey, I love the man despite my feelings on how he is managing our beloved club, and tonight was a great result following a tough few weeks. So it is maybe right to just enjoy it and see if we can kick on. Although I think Lenny is not the right man to take us forward, I for one will still back him all the way until he leaves the position.
Hail Hail!
CB
I think Peter Lawwell should take a bow this morning. After all he doesn’t half get it in the neck when we stumble. Or maybe the new Chairman is the difference – ‘There’s only one Ian Bankier, one Ian Bankier…..’ – I knew things would change once that nasty John Reid departed the scene; or maybe somewhere in Ireland a moustacheoed tight-wad allowed his cheque-book to see the light of day; just think of how good we could be if he actually opened the bleedin thing?
Or was there another reason?….:-)
Hail hail
Estadio
Absolutely delighted with the result and perfromance last night, midfield was superb, Wanyama has to be a must ever game, this fella is gonnae be a beast of a player, what a tower of strength and over time the few mis placed passes will go away.
Only negative for me is the clown a few rows in front of me in the Jock Stein Lower, giving Anthony Stokes torrent of abuse after only 20 seconds, stay at home ya muppet, your a disgrace!!!!!
Good Morning to the Celtic Family from a dull but dry Central Scotland. Well im still on a high after last night Wonderfull performance from Celtic.I would say there were no failures a real team effort I dont think it has sunk in how really good a team we just beat.I look forward to Sundays match and Neil has a headache who to leave out we need another spirited performance in order to leave Motherwell with the 3 points.H.H.