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TURKEYBHOY on 6TH DECEMBER 2020 8:17 PM
Huddle,
Will say it again,he gave Lenny,38.5 million.What else should he have done.Seriously,tell me,because I have no idea.
What you are saying is,its PLs fault that Lenny can’t put a team on the park to beat our last 2 domestic opponents.Really?Eddy is worth 10 times the value of both teams put together.Blaming PL is like howling at the Moon.
Are you aware that Lawwell appointed Lennon without looking at any other candidates?
Do you think that is the actions of a forward thinking CEO earning millions?
Or do you agree that it is lazy and complete incompetence and he should have been sacked on the spot after admitting this?
RC,
Yep not much difference.
agree – whatever is going on between lawell , hammond and the manager is not working- has not been working. Our issues have been known for over a year – the amount of chances teams get against us is pathetic – FF winning man of the match week after week tells us all we need to know.
How do we approach solving that issue pre season? We bring in the slowest (mentally and physically) center back I have ever seen in a celtic jersey! We gamble on an even slower Ajeti when the boy Toney shows pace, desire and scoring al types of goals (albeit in a lesser league).
Ok a little bit of hindsight there – but we have nit addressed issues that have been known to all sine last season.
Did Lawwell just assume that the huns would offer no threat in the years ahead hence the appointment of a guy who had just been sacked from Hibs?
79CAPS on 6TH DECEMBER 2020 8:26 PM
Teabhoy
So Peter Lawwell is a stain on our history? The man who was CEO during 9 in a row.
Hiyya Peter!
Hiyya pal.
Don’t boycott. Just put up with being ignored by the Board.
The Neil Lennon Fanboy has spoken.
my point is not about McGinn – my point is about the dithering board not getting the players we need – especially where the spine of the team is concerned.
oh and BTW – Mcginn WAS in the bag – but of course you foolishly forget Lawell’s weeks and weeks of negotiation for a couple of bucks – allowing Villa to swoop in last minute. Case in point!
I have no insight into the mechanics of Celtic FC – only decisions made and the resulting performances.
Yes,and the CEO who drunkenly appointed Neil whilst in the shower and has oversaw this shitstorm of a season.Yes a stain.
Lambert,
Really pointless debating anything with you,because no matter what,its always PLs fault.Since PL gave him the job temp,then full time,he won 4 Trophies.Short season stopped it being 5.How can you possibly say it was not the right appointment at the time.
Lowell thought after the collapse last year there would be very little competition, he just got it badly wrong ….very badly wrong.
THE BLOGGER FORMERLY KNOWN AS GM on 6TH DECEMBER 2020 8:27 PM
I agree with Turkey, the manger was ‘backed’ in August.
Most agreed it was a good transfer window.
We didn’t sell Eddie or Ajer
Unfortunately for him, Peter Lawell backed the wrong man in the showers.
He now has to undo the (expensive) mess he created.
There was nothing’ unfortunate’ about it.
It was dereliction of his duty as a CEO on an epic scale.
A CEO not doing the job he was paid to do.
CVs from other candidates left in a drawer and never looked at.
He cannot be given another chance.
He has to go.
Lambert14
Hiyya Neil !!
Turnbull had only been on for minutes when he put the best ball of the match in to Griff (who unfortunately couldn’t do anything with it) . which begs the question , why the f*** can’t he get a game? Our service into the box has been atrocious for weeks . Just one of a thousand baffling questions surrounding the club at present .
Teabhoy,
What about last season.You missed that out.
Think your drunkenly posting.
If the CEO and Neil both leave, I know which would be likely to get a top appointment at another club.
Ivan Toney wanted Celtic transfer as Peterborough chairman lifts the lid on ‘insulting’ Parkhead bid
The striker ultimately moved to Brentford and has hit 14 goals in just 16 games.
Peterborough chairman Barry Fry insists Ivan Toney would have WALKED to Celtic – but deemed the Parkhead club’s offer “insulting”.
The Premiership champions were keen to land the striker in the summer but saw a £5million bid turned down.
Eventually West Ham’s Albian Ajeti arrived to bolster the attack, while Toney moved to English Championship side Brentford.
He’s since hit 14 goals in 16 league games, but Fry insists he could easily have been banging them in for Neil Lennon.
He told the Scottish Sun : “Ivan wanted to go to Celtic. They should have pulled their finger out but they f***** about.
“Good job I never waited for them to sell (Odsonne) Edouard because they didn’t anyway.
“The boy’s done brilliant for Brentford — and that’s what I expected.
“Ivan’s different class. Premier League clubs are ringing me up about him.
“Those clubs wanted to take him before but that was just to put him on their benches. Now they want to take him to play.
“They might get £30-50m for him if he carries on the way he is.
“Ivan wanted to go to Celtic because of the relationship he had with Gavin Strachan through working with him at Peterborough last season.
“And let’s be fair, Celtic are also one of the biggest clubs in the world with their support.
“At the time, they were prepared to give him £25,000 a week — more than what the others were prepared to.
“That said, he’s got a better deal at Brentford. Brentford really wanted him and did their homework. But Ivan would have WALKED to Celtic.
“Nicky flew down to see me but Celtic’s bid was insulting. I told Nicky he’d wasted a flight.
“I’d spoken to him on the phone and told him what we wanted
“I’d have waited. I told Gavin and Nick I was happy to do that — provided they came up with the right money. They said they didn’t have the money but would have if they sold Edouard.”
Ok then, for all those who still think the sun shines out of Pedro’s arse, make one argument against any of these points, just the one………
IMO and the opinion of many many others, he has failed big time, we are where we are cos of his failure.
I said at the time when the huns died that we would be the losers in this, I was mocked for saying it.
…………………………………………………
1,654 days ago Celtic appointed Brendan Rodgers.
The share price was £74, almost exactly where it was when Lawwell arrived 12 years earlier. That was 12 years of zero shareholder returns in an era that football revenues exploded.
The year before Rodgers arrival Celtic had to put tarpaulin over a portion of the stadium as they couldn’t sell out the stadium.
We floundered under an unknown Scandinavian manager winning only 3 of the six trophies and failing to do anything of note in Europe.
The CEO was cut out if the recruitment process as the club took a massive step forward in terms of modern football managers.
The stadium was filled with 15,000 fans to recognise this great leap forward by the club, joyous scenes.
We went on to win the next 11 domestic trophies on the back of the platform laid down by Rodgers.
We qualified twice in a row for CL.
The stadium sold out and turnover went over £100m
The share price went up 120% in 18 months to £165
Rodgers decided to leave Celtic.
Instead of continuing this obviously successful strategy on all fronts the CEO regained control, after appointing the stand in manager in a fit of excitement in the shower room after a cup final win turning his back on a modern strategy.
18 months later before we enter December we are out of two European competitions, out the league cup and falling behind in the league with so signs of any way out of one of the the worst 10 game run in our history
The club looks rudderless and the stadium has just had fans protesting in the middle of a pandemic such is the frustration level.
The share price has lost 75% of the gains it made in 2016-18. It would not be surprising if it returned to £75 by the end of the season.
This means in an almost 20 year stewardship there will have been no shareholder value created.
The only time the shareholder value increased was when the CEO was removed from the strategy.
Static,
He got what wrong.We had won the league.PL ,gave Lenny the money to strengthen the team,with what most fans thought was a good window.Never sold a player.Just WTF else could he do.I am no loverof PL,but I hate the same old bollox time after time.
You wait all day then three come along at once. Funny that. Have you all just finished your meals
79CAPS – Can’t argue with Celtics success under Desmond and Lawell but this season has been disastrous and none of them have done anything to try to fix it – other than to refuse to change a formula that is not working.
I don’t drink on a school night, but at least good old Pete will be guaranteed 2 pint in the future
From the “Sharpsuited Man” to the “Bonus Man” to the “complicit 5 way agreement-Old Firm Man” to the “Man that may have stopped the 10.
Peter your legacy awaits! Not too late to rescue it, or is it?
HH
CRC
TURKEYBHOY:
“How can you say it wasn’t the right appointment …?”
Easy. It wasn’t the right appointment. it was a scandalous third rate choice. Lennon did not merit the job the first time he got it, and the second time was a flat out disgrace. He had been fired from Bolton and left Hibs under even more dire circumstances. It was a decision without the slightest merit.
You must be one of the only people still clinging to the delusion that the board made the correct decision.
Here’s what to do if you want to know what happened.
Take a hammer and smash your boiler with it as hard as you can.
For the first two hours you won’t even know anything is wrong.
By the following day you’ll be freezing your nuts off.
Whatever juice this team had was from El Rat’s time in charge, and Lennon has slowly drained it to the point where there’s nothing of it left, nothing at all.
Some of us saw this coming a mile away and are in no sense surprised, except at how completely and catastrophically its come apart without action from the people who hired him.
I said from the start that it would end in disaster.
But you know what else? I also said that I didn’t care what Lennon won before the wheels came off, not even if he secured the ten. Nothing was going to make it the right decision. There were hundreds of readily available, better, more deserving candidates for the job, men who would have maintained our standards and better prepared us for the future.
We’ve lost two years, wasted on this guy and the people who hired him. The damage he has done to our club is momentous. We will take years to rebuild what he has broken and God knows how many millions of pounds. We have an enitre football operation to rebuild because of the last 2 years.
Defending it is … it’s a non-starter. It’s nothing short of a disaster.
I wish I knew what was wrong with our team/Club.
What has changed this year ?
Did the Bolingoli Affair ,injuries,players affected by Covid and Sevco`s obvious improvement all combine to create the dismal situation we find ourselves in?
Or
Are Peter lawwell and Dermot Desmond to blame ? That they have been here for the previous successful seasons would suggest otherwise but who knows? We have certaily spent a lot of money but our team have regressed. I am at a loss to understand what has happened to our team but I am reasonably sure that constant criticism, even of the justifiable nature, is not the answer.Maybe it helps to let off personal steam but as it is likely to be happening country wide, it certainly won`t escape the notice of the players etc and that cannot be good….unless you think they are not trying and that opinion I simply cannot accept.
TURKEYBHOY – PL talks/discusses situations with Lennon and team too much – all he needs to do is look at the gap , goals against, Europe thrashings against reserve teams and plumbers and the body language of the team.
A lot of teams go through tough patches – this is not a patch – this is as good as this team gets !
My love for Neil Lennon
Will never ever leave me …
It’s a shoite time for my hero…
But in “one” season it’s not in my nature to ever forget everything he he has brought to my Celtic life …
If others think that’s a bad thing … fair enough … a couple of posters seem to think this is a bad thing …
Ah well
Hello again all you young rebels.
Where to start with that?
Feck it…..bed.
TET,
No one on here thinks the Sun shines anywhere near Pedro,but to just keep blaming the guy for everything possible is a nonsense.9 in a row.Invincible season.Great chance of 4 Trebles.If you blame someone for every failure,you have to credit them for their successes.I know it does not suit the agenda,but thems the facts.
JAMES FORREST on 6TH DECEMBER 2020 8:49 PM
James, 100% right but a few of us have been saying he was the wrong appointment since 25th May 2019 but have been called out on here as “Sleekit Huns”…..
You appoint a manager as poor as Lennon is this is what you expect to happen, just give it time.
John James is mostly too much in love with himself to pay too much attention to
Howver, his idea that Ajer, Christie, McGregor and Eddy just want away and aren’t really bothered now, seems truer than any other single reason.
After all, these wre 4 star players a year ago and looked good against CL teams like Lazio and Leipzig.
This season is done, more or less – play Turnbull, Soro etc and get rid of the 4 or 5 who want to leave in January.
That should bring in a lot of money for proper replacements.
The day after the cup final when NL was given the job permanently
I phoned my brother whose pal has a contact at Celtic park, someone very close to the board.
I asked him what they were thinking of appointing Lennon and he replied that they didn’t want to take a chance on someone who wasn’t a Celtic man with us going for 10IAR.
They wanted a safe pair of hands.
We know how that’s turned out
imo our players transfer values have plummeted and don’t think we will be hard to deal with come january.
Stebhoy
I agree. They should have sacked Neil after the Ferencvaros game at the latest. I have to think of what Bayern Munich did last season. They were hammered in a league game by, I think, 5-1. They regarded this as unacceptable. The next day the manager was gone. His assistant took over and with the same players won the double and the Champions League. I’m obviously not suggesting our assistant manager would work a miracle, just making the point that that is how an ambitious club reacts.
ONENIGHTINLISBON:
Exactly, it’s like my hitting the boiler with a hammer analogy.
You might not see the regression right away, but once it starts things only get worse, and that’s where we are, locked in a downward spiral which only ends when they rectify their mistake.
And quite how anybody can absolve Lawwell of blame for this beyond me.
I made allowances for the fact Lawwell did back the manager with money, at least. But who the Hell signed our footballers? At least one MSM hack has claimed Duffy was not the manager’s signing. Others have doubts over Ajeti. The CEO didn’t allow Lennon his backroom team … I actually blame the manager for agreeing to work under those conditions but what right does the CEO have to take that decision away from him in the first place?
Lawwell is not qualified to make those kind of judgement calls, yet he makes them repeatedly. McGinn, I don’t believe was enitrely the fault of our club but we could have played the hand we were dealt far better instead of Lawwell playing his macho bullshit games with Rod Petrie over a couple of hundred grand.
Lawwell has been in post way too long. He is leeching the life out of Celtic. Far from getting his statue in the carpark, as someone pointed out earlier, he is now risking departing this club as a hate figure … that’s how serious it is. That’s where his reputation is headed.
RC,
I gave you that commentary on the Ivan Toney transfer,blow by blow,all through the transfer window.Not paying attention,or scrolling. By,you missed the best scoop ever,even if I say so myself.
Turkey boy
Well we’re can I begin…….we have been financially miles above any other club in Scotland for the the last 10 years…..we had the perfect opportunity to strengthen in that time ….We should have been working on bringing through the best young players In Scotland …..We should have been providing the best training facilities and opportunities for the young players that wanted to play for the best team in Scotland…..yet time after time we ended up getting any promising young players from the likes of Hearts, Motherwell or whoever..it’s a sad day when promising young lads are poached by the likes of Bayern Munich or Benfica…surely we can keep theses lads in Scotland…could go on but the wife is giving me grief !!!
Good night.
No-one will convince me otherwise, this board should be chased out of town.
They didn’t even interview another candidate for the job, that IMO is a sacking offence.
For the last few weeks I’ve been of the mind that the league isn’t over if we act “now”.
I’m now coming to the realisation that the league is pretty much over and we have to firstly build for next season and secondly win the Cup to complete the treble.
Neil Lennon’s comments today about it being difficult to reel them in is as good as an admission until we start to hear “mathematically possible”.
Of course the players can’t think that way – they have to give 100% in every game and hope Sevco collapse but honestly, this was supposed to be our run of “easy” games and we dropped points at the first hurdle.
Yes, Sevco might drop points eventually but so will we…..a lot more.
If the board don’t sack Neil Lennon tomorrow morning it is proof that they either know nothing about football or simply don’t care.