Celtic v the Dutch and innovative philosophies

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The 4-0 defeat we received at the hands of Utrecht aside, Celtic’s form on Dutch soil has been decent.  Ajax recorded a narrow 1-0 win in the Champions League in 2013.  When the teams met in the following year’s Europa League, the home side scored late to secure a draw against 10-man Celtic.

Our two visits prior to that were historically famous wins.  Goals from Bobby Petta, Didier Agathe and Chris Sutton saw Celtic win 1-3; enough for them to reach the Champions League group stage for the first time in the club’s history.

A late goal from George McCluskey after a Charlie Nicholas opener saw Celtic win 1-2 and progress in the 1982-83 European Cup.  This game is historically famous because we had so few significant European wins in the 80s and 90s – if you lived through these times, you will still cherish that game.

Johan Cruyff was subbed late in that 1982 game, still masterful, if a few years past his prime.  He was in his full pomp when he led Ajax to a 3-0 quarterfinal victory on their way to winning their first European Cup in 1971.  That game came 10 months after Feyenoord became the first Dutch team to win the trophy, beating Celtic in the final.

Dutch football arrived with a bang in 1969.  Ajax lost the European Cup Final that year to Milan, the last time the trophy did not go to the Netherlands until 1974.  Just four years before that Ajax-Milan final, Celtic met Dutch opponents for the first time in competitive football.  Go Ahead Deventer lost 0-6 to Celtic in their Cup Winners’ Cup first leg.

The other two Dutch teams in European football also exited Europe in the first round, Utrecht losing 7-1 to Barcelona and Feyenoord losing 5-0 to Real Madrid.  This came two years after Luxembourg eliminated Netherlands from the European Championships.  Dutch football was a shambles in the mid-60s, but with an innovative philosophy, it ruled Europe within five years.  Everything we are seeing right now at Celtic is the result of an innovative philosophy, great things can be achieved by great coaches.

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  1. Weebobbycollins on

    BTW…if your not interested in watching St.Stivs recommended film about Third Lanark tonight, you could do worse than watch my wife’s film on BBC4 at 9.50. It’s called Aquarela and is about the beauty and often destructive power of water. It premiered at the Venice International film festival and was actually shortlisted for the Oscars. It is a visual feast. Filmed at Lake Baikal in Siberia, Angel Falls in Venezuela, in USA, Greenland, Mexico and even an underwater sequence with a horse in Loch Lomond. There’s no narration, only images and musical soundtrack, however, the images are stunning. Well worth a watch…

  2. WBC – booked a seat for the 9:50 screening. If it’s as good as your last recommendation, we’re in for a treat.

  3. BB @ 8.29

     

     

    SB article — couple of great pieces for the Full Scale CFC jigsaw puzzle.

     

     

    Have issues with his comments about the training regime under RD.

     

    Given that there was a full scale revolt of the senior players when RD tried to change things — I don’t think SB comments show his efforts as captain in a good light.

     

     

    He should have supported the manager when KC / CM / AS formed their wee clique to undermine the manager in every way possible. Consequently getting lippy now about RD looks like a bit of airbrushing history.

     

     

    And then you have his efforts last year to turn the season around.

     

    NL and SB looked like the the blind leading the deaf.

  4. See Elyounoussi has scored a hat-trick tonight – he is an Ange-type in my opinion – sorry we won’t get him back. I would have fancied him to get c15 goals in our new system.

  5. Remember running about Cathkin Park … I’m sure they had heaters above the covered terracing … very faint memory now

  6. I dont think its a coincidence that KC and CM didnt get any game time

     

    Rodgers as I think he would have had a word in the ear of Ronnie Deila

  7. prestonpans bhoys on

    INIQUITOUSIV on 25TH AUGUST 2021 9:58 PM

     

    Extra time in Donetsk. A superb game.

     

     

    Agree but Donetsk only have one shot on target but seem to have more stamina

  8. Have they not suffered enough?

     

     

    So am I right to think that if they do not test positive they can now play on Sunday? Skelp them either way.

  9. This sham of thems players having covid would never have come to light had that new player of there’s not opened his mouth . They will all be there on Sunday . Pity were still a few quality players short in defence .

  10. PRESTONPANS BHOYS

     

    Agree. They are also sneakier and more ruthless, particularly some of the Brazilians playing for them. Monaco have scorned a lot of chances, and may have blown it.

  11. !!BADA BING!! on 25TH AUGUST 2021 7:56 PM

     

    BB- McGowan is like the guy in the pub in The Fast Show ,who says something, gets shot down, then says the opposite under duress.

     

     

    ——————————–

     

     

    Off to Google that sketch. Remember one about a car I think?

  12. Elyounoussi hat-trick for Southampton tonight. Be interesting to see if he can stake a claim in the first team.

  13. WBC – Just before my phone runs out of battery….Wow! Can’t believe what I’m seeing. Fascinating, Frightening and Fantastic. Your wife must be very proud- as well as gifted!

  14. Mitchell

     

     

    I have to do home work on monetarily lol

     

     

    Seem to recall your never even knew twas your Denis who introduced it in 1976. Historical fact.

     

    Yes Mitchell you didn’t know you own party introduced

     

    monetarily.margaret liked Denis.Tony like Margaret.

     

     

    Laughin at Tech.its after you should try glean after.

     

    Your envy would be seepin out you.

     

     

    1+1+1=3.Gordon dint get it no matter how many of his 11fingers he used.

     

     

    Mitchell where the socialistvangaurd not beaten by the cumbie in a layburr confrince debate?

     

     

    You be good now Mitchell.look after your relative

     

    HH

  15. WEEBOBBYCOLLINS on 25TH AUGUST 2021 9:36 PM

     

    BTW…if your not interested in watching St.Stivs recommended film about Third Lanark tonight, you could do worse than watch my wife’s film on BBC4 at 9.50. It’s called Aquarela and is about the beauty and often destructive power of water. It premiered at the Venice International film festival and was actually shortlisted for the Oscars. It is a visual feast. Filmed at Lake Baikal in Siberia, Angel Falls in Venezuela, in USA, Greenland, Mexico and even an underwater sequence with a horse in Loch Lomond. There’s no narration, only images and musical soundtrack, however, the images are stunning. Well worth a watch…

     

     

    WeeBobbyCollins

     

    Anyone

     

     

    got a link to the above?

     

     

    HH

  16. So, former manager Neil Lennon is not the only one indulging in historical revisionism, one of our former Captains is also up for the challenge, this time with the objective of writing out Ronny Deila from the club’s history, whilst conveniently forgetting his own part in Ronny’s Downfall. (Not to mention being summoned to London and told in no uncertain terms that if he wanted to have a future at Celtic he had better get his act together)

     

    Rather, like Lenny, than admitting that he “lost focus” during the Ronny years, Scott Brown seeks to disparage his coach for the very sin of……wait for it……putting the Kaibosh on Di Broonie’s Kebabs!

     

     

    whostolemakebabcsc

  17. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    Sheer guts from Shakhtar.

     

     

    Monaco conceded the losing goal with eight full minutes of match time remaining …

     

     

    … but absolutely crumbled psychologically.

     

     

    Panicked and resorted to aimless shanks upfield.

     

     

    As a result didn’t create a single second of pressure let alone a chance.

  18. WEEBOBBYCOLLINS on 25TH AUGUST 2021 9:36 PM

     

    BTW…if your not interested in watching St.Stivs recommended film about Third Lanark tonight, you could do worse than watch my wife’s film on BBC4 at 9.50. It’s called Aquarela…

     

     

     

    WEEBOBBY – trailer looks sensational!

  19. Someone or two in the Hun camp has Covid.Will be interesting to see how many test positive.This is the much quicker spreading Delta variant.Snowballs chance in hell of not catching it if in close proximity to a carrier.

  20. Big Georges Fan Club - Hail, Hail, Wee Oscar on

    See the hun spinning already in full gear – McAllister telling the SFA what restrictions they need to apply in this case.

     

     

    Only the third choice ball boy in front of the Copeland Road stand will be required to isolate come Sunday.

     

     

    Bring on their best team – we’ll fekin hump them. Ratbags.

     

     

    More interested to see progress tomorrow anyway – a good performance away to a good European team will be a great sign of the direction we are headed in.

     

     

    HH

     

    BGFC

  21. garygillespieshamstring on

    EKBhoy

     

     

    I can remember Shawfield having electric heaters hanging from the roof of the stand in late 60s / early 70s.

  22. Bada

     

    I thought the Sevvy Statement (sic) said that the cretins were banned indefinitely?

     

    HH

  23. PeterLatchfordsBelly on

    We should plan on the basis the huns will be close to full strength on Sunday. Leitch and Sturgeon are rock solid huns as we saw last season.

  24. PETERLATCHFORDSBELLY on 25TH AUGUST 2021 11:42 PM

     

    We should plan on the basis the huns will be close to full strength on Sunday. Leitch and Sturgeon are rock solid huns as we saw last season.

     

     

    ———-

     

     

    naw they irnae

  25. Wèe Bobby

     

     

    Quality mate.To be enjoyed again.as kip now.:-)

     

    The trailer nb showed reminded me of being in Cairngorm when younger.Nature is just stunning and genuinely awesome wbc.that film exhibits that.

     

    Well done all 👍 👍 👍

     

     

    Onto a result tonight hh

  26. Danny Martin (Heraghty’s Bar), Requiescat In Pace. A man who always went the extra mile for everyone and boxed many an ear without having to lift a hand. Sincere condolences to loved ones and friends. Ave Ave

  27. Fairhillbhoy ! loving greece thank you, hope you are a having a great time in Tenerife, do you still see wee mick T ?

  28. Video could emerge of sturgeon belting out the sash, followed by a rousing rendition of the famine song and topped off with a few f**k the popes and there are Celtic supporters who would still vote for her.

     

    I know my brother-in-law would.