Celtic v the Dutch and innovative philosophies


The 4-0 defeat we received at the hands of Utrecht aside, Celtic’s form on Dutch soil has been decent.  Ajax recorded a narrow 1-0 win in the Champions League in 2013.  When the teams met in the following year’s Europa League, the home side scored late to secure a draw against 10-man Celtic.

Our two visits prior to that were historically famous wins.  Goals from Bobby Petta, Didier Agathe and Chris Sutton saw Celtic win 1-3; enough for them to reach the Champions League group stage for the first time in the club’s history.

A late goal from George McCluskey after a Charlie Nicholas opener saw Celtic win 1-2 and progress in the 1982-83 European Cup.  This game is historically famous because we had so few significant European wins in the 80s and 90s – if you lived through these times, you will still cherish that game.

Johan Cruyff was subbed late in that 1982 game, still masterful, if a few years past his prime.  He was in his full pomp when he led Ajax to a 3-0 quarterfinal victory on their way to winning their first European Cup in 1971.  That game came 10 months after Feyenoord became the first Dutch team to win the trophy, beating Celtic in the final.

Dutch football arrived with a bang in 1969.  Ajax lost the European Cup Final that year to Milan, the last time the trophy did not go to the Netherlands until 1974.  Just four years before that Ajax-Milan final, Celtic met Dutch opponents for the first time in competitive football.  Go Ahead Deventer lost 0-6 to Celtic in their Cup Winners’ Cup first leg.

The other two Dutch teams in European football also exited Europe in the first round, Utrecht losing 7-1 to Barcelona and Feyenoord losing 5-0 to Real Madrid.  This came two years after Luxembourg eliminated Netherlands from the European Championships.  Dutch football was a shambles in the mid-60s, but with an innovative philosophy, it ruled Europe within five years.  Everything we are seeing right now at Celtic is the result of an innovative philosophy, great things can be achieved by great coaches.

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  1. DAVIDOPOULOS on 25TH AUGUST 2021 2:12 PM


    An Tearmann




    I’m back, back with a…




    What’s the opposite of a bang?






    I’d suggest ‘splutter’ but I don’t want to start an outbreak of puns which you excel at. 🤣🤣🤣

  2. Good morning all on another matchday in an overcast/hazy Garngad.



    Let’s concentrate on what we can do tonight, Ange ball, let AZ worry about us in their half and even final 3rd of the park and we will be fine. Get a result tonight as in qualify and keep the feel good factor going into Sunday for a Glasgow Derby.



    I think the Huns are underestimating their european opponents that they play later. Just saying like.



    Again on Sunday play our own game (Ange ball)



    D :)

  3. TERRYMAC on 25TH AUGUST 2021 5:42 PM


    Snake Plissken at 3.51



    ‘We do not want Covid back at Celtic Park in any shape or form.’




    I went to the Thursday and Saturday games and thoroughly enjoyed them but the reality of waking up on Sunday morning with the dreaded symptoms kind of spoiled it a bit!



    Believe me, Covid is still rampant at Celtic Park and elsewhere!



    Stay safe everyone!



    Hail! Hail!







    Snap. Currently awaiting outcome of a PCR test.

  4. Tosb


    David is right terrible answer lol






    Morning Celts on matchplay.




  5. AN TEARMANN on 26TH AUGUST 2021 7:32 AM





    David is right terrible answer lol








    Morning Celts on matchplay.









    My excuse is that it’s too early in the morning for me, AT. Any earlier and I would have been a moon howler. 😂😂😂

  6. INIQUITOUSIV on 25TH AUGUST 2021 9:58 PM


    Extra time in Donetsk. A superb game.




    I also thoroughly enjoyed this match. I thought Monaco were the better team and were clearly devastated to lose in extra time. Only themselves to blame as their lack of finishing cost them dearly in normal time.



    I could not help speculating on how we might fare against either team (should we progress tonight). I concluded that both teams are beatable, but would pose a stern test for the bhoys.



    Post~match research showed that Donetsk are currently 2nd to Dynamo Kiev in the Ukrainian Premier League after 5 games played.



  7. westcraigs on 26th August 2021 6:39 am



    How is life in 1950’s Great Britain? Still doffing the cap?

  8. David66



    Huns opponents are a poor team , watched second half last week .


    Outplayed by 10 man sevco.


    Live in hope , all the same

  9. In ither news………………..




    PCR tests to be made available immediately to all scoddish squirrels……

  10. WESTCRAIGS on 26TH AUGUST 2021 6:39 AM


    Video could emerge of sturgeon belting out the sash, followed by a rousing rendition of the famine song and topped off with a few f**k the popes and there are Celtic supporters who would still vote for her.



    I know my brother-in-law would.




    100% correct.



    Ask him what he thinks would happen to our minority, our culture & our schooling in the unlikely event of independence. Catholic schools would be dismantled &/or integrated within five years on cost grounds and education centralised just like the Police – the SNPcult are control-freaks.



    Our advisories will be a disgruntled huge fish in a smaller pool. If we think we get discriminated & dominated now, what would await us doesn’t bear contemplation.



    Life is not perfect but at least in an uncertain world it is based on facts – not supposition, or, pie in the sky economics, or, downright lies like the “thick White Paper”, or indeed the spectacularly stupid “it will be alright on the night” theory espoused by the “let’s gie it a try” mob.



    Covid, furlough, vaccines and a £36 billion deficit funded by the UK – if that doesn’t concentrate minds, nothing will!.



    You know those among us who vote SNPcult just to “f*** the huns”, would, if the “huns” suddenly starting supporting independence, run a mile to vote against them. The vote is fickle and based on nothing more substantial than Celtic v *Rangers rivalry, with more than a nod to Ulster politics. Ibrox is not the UK – to vote SNPcult independence just to spite them, impoverish Scotland and put your own ‘kind’ at risk, is stupidity on stilts.



    There is no coherent economic case for independence, if there was the SNPcult would be shouting it from the rooftops….and there is no coherent reason why our kind should vote SNPcult….turkeys & Christmas comes to mind.

  11. Reading this morning that huns could be full strength on Sunday


    even if a few players cannot play in their match today in Armenia



    If that is the case the game is a bogey as they can change the rules


    to suit them and always get away with it



    In saying that I would hope Ange will play the same way no matter which


    hun we are facing on Sunday and go full pelt for the jugular and see how


    they cope



    3-1 to the tic

  12. From MCL



    @Record_Sport The players isolating are obv not double vaccinated or they would have been in Armenia just now

  13. Let’s just wait and see the results of their PCR tests.Lets be realistic.This is Covid.If any Hun player has it,he WILL be isolating.They cannot afford it to run riot through their squad.I am sure most players would not chance anything.Most have families.Its not just a wee head cold.

  14. Delaneys Dunky on

    Just was reminded by JHB post, that it is magic mushroom season.


    Hilarious diatribe. 😁😂🤣

  15. AIPPLE on 25TH AUGUST 2021 10:18 PM


    !!BADA BING!! on 25TH AUGUST 2021 7:56 PM


    BB- McGowan is like the guy in the pub in The Fast Show ,who says something, gets shot down, then says the opposite under duress.




    Off to Google that sketch. Remember one about a car I think?




    Apple ~ I think this is the one:





  16. Would Celtic players be worried playing against hun players


    who couldnt go to Armenia due to covid knowing the same


    hun players may still have the virus

  17. Heard Halliday say on radio to a smug hun the other night . He knows for a fact , not all the sevco payers are fully vaccinated.


    Although Like many others , I’m in no doubt huns will field a full strength team on Sunday

  18. Turkeybhoy,



    Any idea who were those with Covid mentioned by Lundstrum. It was NEVER ever mentioned again,as far as I know, in any Scottish media outlet, let alone the Scottish Government. Sturgeon was more than voluble when a Celtic player contracted it on a trip which had Government permission. Double standards? Seems like that to me (and I have voted SNP).

  19. JHB make up your mind!! Are you a sectarian bigot or not? Last week you were all love an peace and Celtic open to all now you’re back to the “our culture & our schooling” again ( by the way you’ve never been brave enough to explain that) so what is it? Are you the two sides of one coin that your beloved UK press like to call us or genuinely open to all? Can’t be both, bigot boy/girl.

  20. Delaneys Dunky on

    BMCUW has asked me to post a reminder here, that a Hootenanny has been organised for this coming Saturday 28th.


    Meeting at the Blane Valley fae noon for the alkies, and McChuills High Street from 2pm, for the more sensible drinkers. 😁😂


    Everyone here welcome. 🍀💚

  21. Evening all and a good morning to youz.


    See Graham Spiers is revolting on Twitter about meeja exclusion from the sevvy presser in Armenia:


    “A number of pressing key issues of the last 24hours totally ignored. What a farce.”



    Tho he’s a ex-acolyte who has dared to dissent from time to time, his press pals had plenty time to quiz TRFC about ‘pressing key issues’ since 2012, and precious few had the cojones to do so, and STILL got dizzied by the huns. Graham, you can’t swap succulent lamb for journalistic integrity and then hope to be respected for it.


    Not by your audiences, nor your abusers.



    Mon the Alashkert Yellows!!

  22. Just noticed that it is a 12 noon KO on Sunday. With all the traveling involved, that is not ideal for Sevco. Are their `Covid` players ,in reality,just being rested?




  23. TIMMY7_NOTED on 26TH AUGUST 2021 8:48 AM




    Celtic was founded by and for Irish Catholic immigrants to Scotland (‘a black country with a cold heart’).



    That doesn’t mean that the Club isn’t open to all.



    On the contrary, it’s the fact that the Irish Catholic immigrant community was marginalised and despised that has driven the desire to be open and accepting of others.

  24. WEEBOBBYCOLLINS on 25TH AUGUST 2021 11:50 PM



    The film is stunning, you must be very proud of your wife!

  25. ernie lynch



    `Celtic was founded by and for Irish Catholic immigrants to Scotland `.



    Is that a fact?


    I was under the impression that it was for ALL the poor of Glasgow. I realise that Irish Catholis would strongly represented in that group but would the poor of other faiths have been refused help?

  26. Delaneys Dunky on



    All well here Jim thanks.


    Hope all good in Arbroath.


    Would be great to see you on Saturday if possible. 👍🍀💚

  27. Let me try again !




    ` I realise that Irish Catholics would have been strongly represented etc ` !!

  28. Opening goal crucial tonight. They score it and it’s very much game on. We score it and the tie is all but over. Just please, Celtic, don’t concede early doors, get the first thirty minutes over us on level terms and we’ll be ok.



    The huns will go through, they’re playing what I think is the worst team ever seen at this stage of the Europa qualifiers.