The Scotsman did an interesting article today on the fact that recent attendances at Celtic Park have fallen well short of the circa 46,000 paid for tickets, the majority of which are season tickets. It touches on several issues.
Suggestions that a league in which Celtic inevitably process to the title is less attractive to the spectating public than a league with a competitive challenge is not a surprise. It would be bizarre otherwise.
Still, many Celtic fans continue to support the club for a whole variety of reasons: we want to see it prosper, we enjoy going to games with our family and friends, and, unsurprisingly, we enjoy watching football.
Anyone who doubted that attendances would soften after Rangers were liquidated should have widened their survey sample. For most of us, this was a welcome change. The joys of beating Rangers were undeniable, but most of us have a deeper relationship with Celtic.
The Scotsman predict that in the event there was never a “team called Rangers in the top flight” Celtic would endure some serious downsizing. If we remained within the confines of Scottish league football this is undeniably true. So what? There would be little competition, less income, fewer signings and more promotion from the youth team.
In this scenario there would inevitably be fewer Champions League nights too, but in the big scheme of things, would we want it any other way? Of course not. Celtic will be there, in sunshine or in shadow, playing football and paying their bills. I’d sign up for this right now.
There is, of course, the question of how welcome our continued presence in Scottish football would be with the prospect of not just winning 10-in-a-row, which I hear our favourite Sevconian, Ally McCoist, is now discussing as a possibility, but the realisation that 10 would soon become 20, or 30-in-a-row.
All Celtic can do is continue to win football matches, pay their bills and see off all challengers. The game here is irrevocably broken; the consequences of this will continue to emerge in the months and years to come. All we know for sure is that Celtic will prevail, no matter which scenario plays out.
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starry plough forza oscar
11:22 on
31 December, 2013
and Time for Change
What Doncaster personifies is the lack of awareness of what has taken place at a deeper level and why our game is broken and that is that the trust on which all sport relies has been broken.
It started when Rangers embarked on EBTS in 1999, then used side letters from August 2000. That was bad enough, but the attempts by the SFA at covering up their part not only in missing the duplicity when it happened over 10 years but the consequences of it, means that nothing but a complete change of attitude and SFA culture can ever put Humpty back together again.
The problem is Humpty still think he is sitting on the wall.
Loovens signs for Sheff Wed til end of the season…….phew….
Bolton Wanderers have debts of £163 million!
Nearly as bad as that ex-club.
HH!!
Auldheid
Indeed however still shocking that after all this time and subsequent events this line is still peddled. Still next year could prove either informative and/or entertaining!
HH
Eurochamps67
09:59 on 31 December, 2013
Saint Paul’s Primary, Whitehill, Hamilton.
The heidie had been Jinky’s teacher before becoming our heidie.
Jinky played keepie uppie with my ball,for playtime,as well. Our teacher Mrs Ward was pure beelin’ so she was, even gave me into trouble, after Jinky left, as if it my fault the genius played fitba in her classroom.
EC67
Ah, thought it might be his local (St Columba’s at Viewpark). Was my school too and my Ma was one of his teachers!
NosaeeasyfurmeCSC :-))
‘It was on a dreary New Year’s Eve….’
Id just like to wish all the bhoys and ghirls on CQN a happy new year when it arrives.
Paul67….Thanks for putting up with my hysterical reactions and sarcasm,…although, I still reserve the right, to lose total control in any transfer window(Its only fair).
Hope we all have a great new year, my resolution is to never forget how great Celtic FC are, and how great Celtic supporters are…
However….roll on the transfer window:)
I Love you all…Hail, Hail
Auldheid
Yeah sure he’s not one of the blazer brigade and you know what I mean by that, he’s been stuck in situ without the full facts, who indeed does have the full facts! If at least he delivered fantastic business solutions maybe you could give him the benefit of the doubt but he doesn’t, he looks like somebody who got drunk in London and woke up in Glasgow and decided to stay…
On the outside looking in like Regan, neither of them can penetrated the gloom that surrounds the whole story..
Is there a solution?
A new man with a passion for the game who at least has an involvement in the story and knows what is needed?
Not many of those to the dozen and certainly not many who want to have their families put at risk to clean up our game!
Mississippi Burning never far away!!
This is just my outsiders point of view of course being away for 25 years doesn’t really give me the whole picture!
Slip sliding into 2014!
Happy new year taurangabhoy
45 mins till 2014 here
Wonder if we will get rid of our awefull strike force who are a drain on our finances
Off oot shortly.
I will be wearing SIX layers of clothing: Tshirt, light woollen polo neck, long-sleeved polo shirt, woollen cardigan, fleece and rain-proof jacket.
Also gloves and a Celtic scarf.
HH!!
balticCSC
I was just sitting and a thought came into my head, I was thinking about a Hun house party, or in fact in Hun party tonight, and at the bells, so one raises a toast (I am pizzing myself laughing here as I type this) and sais ” well here’s ti a gid new year, and hoping it’s a lot better than the last two” knowing full well that they are fecked, maybe someone could come up with some…..Huns party toast…lurking Huns you can join in too ;)
Sad are the homes round Garryowen
Since they lost their joy and pride
And the banshee cry links every vale
Around the Shannon side that city of the ancient walls
The broken treaty stone, undying fame surrounds your name, Sean South from Garryowen
tallybhoy
12:13 on 31 December, 2013
And the Hoops of course!
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Sixtaeseven…..
Prepare for much bashing of the Bishopp, by the SMSM,as the Upper Tier Tax Tribunal plays out in public.
Given the option of downsizing with the huns remaining dead – or staying as we are and welcoming them back when they eventually complete their resurrection and rejoin us – its an absolute no brainer – downsizing every time – whatever it takes.
Ryecatcher
Is the case open to the public?
Lennybhoy
Unfortunately I left the Hoops in Italy!
Intend to buy another top next week!
HH!!
Hamilton Tim. 12.03
I knew 2 of the lads who were in that lorry. Didn’t know them in 1957 but about 7 or 8 years later, was in the same Cumann as one of them.
Tony,
It is indeed my man.
If you follow John Clarke on TSFM, he will be the man for details regarding venue,dates etc.
Note: Bashing of the Bishopp is not encouraged in public.
Have a great new year mate…..All the best.
tallybhoy
12:21 on 31 December, 2013
The Scarf will serve you well mate, wear it with pride as you always do.
Happy New Year to you and yours.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Ryecatcher
Great thanks for the info. Happy New year to you an yours.
Thanks for the replies , you ornithologists youse. You do learn something every day on CQN.
DBBIA,
I would like to think we would be accepted into the lowest league from which we might aspire to the EPL. I haven’t really paid any attention to the Cumbrian version. I have felt for long enough that we need to play in a league which will offer us a level playing field. That is never going to happen in Scotland. Whether the “support” are only glory hunters would be interesting to discover. I think we would still have a core of 20,000 to 30,000 who will be there come hail, rain or sunshine.
parkheadcumsalford
We may end up with 20,000 yes. It is not enough to generate the level of income needed to run the operation.
John Bishop is conducting the tax case appeal? should be funny …
Auldheid
It’s agreed that a clear out is needed at the top of the SFA. What do you think of the idea of inviting a top administrator from another sport, another country even, to instigate the clear out and make the SFA fit for purpose in the 21st century? I don’t think even the angriest bears would try to threaten an American or Australian like they have done with the Scottish guys.
New Year fixed odds. Horses for courses.
Seems to work best in English premiership, though Man U without their twin strikers are a different proposition.
Crystal Palace h to Norwich CP undefeated in last 12.
West Ham have won 6, drawn 2 in last 10 visits to Fulham.
Liverpool v Hull. Lpool won 7, d1 of last 8. Have met h and a 17 times with 1 win for Hull.
Spurs have won once in 27 visits to Old Trafford and that was their last visit.
Man City have lost 1 in 7 h and a to Swansea.
MKDons v Colchester. Visitors have won 1 in 9.
Dag and Red have played Wimbledon 5 times, h and a. Drawn 2, lost 3.
Henhousemanure v Dunfermline. In last 8 h and a, the Pars have won 6, drawn 2.
Mansfield v Burton. Met in total 3 times, Burton winning all.
Burton’s last 6 wins have been by 1-0. Might take this in a wee double with Montrose v Berwick 1-1 on Thursday. A popular score in this fixture.
Good luck. HH?
Great New Year to all !
A few years after Kano escaped that clock, in that room, in that hospital, in Perth, as new year in Perth approaches, Kano finds himself back in that room, with that clock, alone.
I hope he gets out again soon.
Lennybhoy
The Celtic scarf gets right up their noses – but most are too dim to realise what it is as it’s cunningly disguised!
A great 2014 to you and yours!
HH!!
Kit- absolutely.
Get well,and get home soon, Martin.
ger57
Howzitgaun?
Been trying to contact you to arrange a festive ‘sesh’!
Hope to see you soon.
HH!!
Dontbrattbakkinanger:
I only heard from Ramie who phoned on his way back from the hospital. He says Martin’s good. When have you known Martin to be anything other than good.
P67
Your comments are very complacent.
The big issue at the moment is stagnation and the attendant lack of a growth strategy.
The club has bot covered itself in glory over the past 6 months.
VvD may single handedly generate a transfer surplus from this summers dealings but overall something seems badly wrong. We spent money but it didn’t make sense and it didn’t add up.
What is the story behind this strange situation?
Was PL’s bonus not big enough through traditional means?
On that subject what will PL earn next year — will it be a lot less than last year?
If yes will he leave for pastures new?
If he needed previous seasons bonuses to stay will he go when they are not there?
The Hootsman article was filler but the bigger issues remain …
Where is the Board / Support connection and where is the growth strategy?
We missed our chance with next summers CG.
The current plans for the area around the ground are weak to say the least.
They are so bad I suggest that they were phoned in on a Friday afternoon.
Consequently be less defensive.
What about thoughts on the future and how the club can be improved?
I would suggest you start with the catering.
A living wage would improve things no end.
Kano’s back in hospital? Best wishes Martin – hope it’s a short stay and you’re back with your family very soon.
Speedy recovery Kano.HH
i just saw the new year celebration in sydney there, spectacular, and that made me think of Kano, and then CQN.
just came on a moment ago to see our man is in hospital.
keep it lit Kano,
MadMitch:
Or,
Don’t just think big, (class?)
Don’t just talk big, (class?)
Just shut up and do it and let your actions determine your class.
Thank God we never boasted of Casino’s and pitches in the clouds.
We’re more down to earth with very important health and safety bollards and acoustic public hygiene.
Tony Watt back in the hoops
http://www.snspix.com/9156447/print/9156447.html
Corkcelt
I’m sure you’d have a few good tales to tell!!
Kitalba
So sorry to hear that about Kano. Please God he gets home soon.