The creative central midfield position is heavily congested at Celtic. Rom Togic and Stuart Armstrong are both enjoying landmark seasons, leaving Ryan Christie feeding off injury scraps. It’s not ideal for a player with over 100 top flight appearances under his belt.
Four months at Aberdeen would be ideal for the player’s development, and would perhaps arrest Aberdeen’s slide this season.
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BROGAN ROGAN TREVINO AND HOGAN on 25TH JANUARY 2017 10:24 AM
Sorry, not buying that.
Your view is as unbalanced as that of those you criticise.
Burns was a brilliant poet. Beyond that he was an opportunist. And if held strong views, they were weakly held.
” Oh whit a panic`s in thy breastie ”
Mark Warbington on sea.
BRT&H
I nice wee alternate fact there.
I knew a wee bit but never read much to confirm Burns reputation was slighted. Didn’t have a view on the man except that he gives me another excuse to eat haggis and have a dram to wash it down. So that does for me. But your defender of his character was informing.
Howeva? If alive today do you think he’d be a Hun and if so do you think he’d be an advocate if ‘The Engine Room Subsiduary’?
Pain in the erse but I won’t be making game tonight nor at the weekend due to a wee downturn. Hopefully home to watch game on the ole Kodi box tonight though.
MWD
Morning
Interesting post by BRTH in response to Tony D’s playing Devil’s Advocate. I like most of what I have read and heard of the Bard’s work but know only the shortbread tin versions of his life.
I suppose whether the truth of what kind of man is the important thing is the beauty and timelessness of his work. I could compare him to Caravaggio whose character was less than saintly ( allegedly) but who gave us beautiful paintings or Wagner ( dodgy politics and even dodgier fans) but I am genuinely not well educated enough to sustain my argument.
Burns may or may not have been a disreptuable sot but he wrote great poems and centuries after his death that is pretty much all that matters.
My brain hurts and in future I will stick to bland match reports, Bilko and being a dissenting voice regarding the physical attractiveness of a particular weather forecaster
Jimbo67
Ernie,
With respect, I disagree.
Had he been an opportunist he could have abandoned Ayrshire life altogether and cemented his reputation and future among the Edinburgh establishment.
Had he been a callous opportunist, he could have consummated his relationship with Nancy McElhone and lived a life of comfort with her in Edinburgh or the Caribbean.
However, when he discovered that Jean Armour’s father had thrown her out of the house and effectively abandoned her and her child, he bid “Aye fond kiss” to Nancy, left Edinburgh and headed back to Ayrshire to set up with Jean whom he married for the second time (the first wedding not being fully recognised).
The “opportunist” Burns would always be poor. He made virtually nothing out of his real time fame and poetry and someone with a much more calculating brain would have made a better financial fist of it.
However, leaving all that aside, whether he was an opportunist, a financial failure or whatever, is all irrelevant to the fact that Pitt wanted his reputation moulded to meet a greater political purpose and set about doing that with considerable vigour.
Anyway — off oot!
JIm Payne
Caravaggio!!!
Another fascinating man!
Artbhoy and I are long overdue a long and hopefully drunken chat about who had the greatest influence on painting or art — Caravaggio or Michelangelo after whom he was named.
Definitely off oot!
Morning Celts
Robert Burns, man or myth?
Depends of course who you read.
I will say this, in George Square, who is given prominence of place?
Why of course, its Walter Scott.
Now why would that be?
There is your answer.
Maybe the real handshakers didnt consider Rabbie to be one of their own.
Scots Wha Ha….read the words.
HH
Delaneys Dunkey – from last night re Albufeira
read back and saw a few responses to your question – since you haven’t booked hotel yet then you have the whole of the Algarve to choose from.
Albufeira is quite a hilly resort so make sure that you check google maps for the location especially if your family like the beach.
I would start by using Trivago to look at what’s available then go from there .
Good luck
Who are we signing then?
Bojan?
HH
Robert Burns ?
Attended one Burns thing in my life . A private thing in an Moscow apartment in 1986 . I was there for work – being Glaswegian got me the invite . The vodka was better( and more plentiful ) than the haggis . Host gave me a sheet of Soviet Union stamps from 1956 marking the man’s death 160 years previously . To my shame , my hosts knew more about the man than I did . I still know very little.
BROGAN ROGAN TREVINO AND HOGAN on 25TH JANUARY 2017 11:08 AM
‘Had he been an opportunist he could have abandoned Ayrshire life altogether’
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He did.
He moved to Dumfries.
SOUTH OF TUNIS on 25TH JANUARY 2017 11:28 AM
Moscow in Russia?
Or Ayrshire?
Kilmarnock got £1m for Coulibaly, interesting to note they were able to demand/hold out for money like that.
HH
SOUTH OF TUNIS:
I believe there is a statue of Robbie Burns in Moscow. Apparently it is the only statue of a’westerner’ in Russia.
After Queen Victoria and Christopher Columbus, Robert Burns has more statues dedicated to him around the world than any other non-religious figure.
The Soviet Union was the first country in the world to honour Burns with a commemorative stamp, marking the 160th anniversary of his death in 1956.
Robert Burns was the first ever person to appear on a commemorative bottle of Coca-Cola, in 2009.
Ernie Lynch .
Russia .
I once went to a Lionel Hampton thing in Moscow , Idaho .
Burns fathered at least 12 children with four different women during his short 37 year lifetime. His youngest child, Maxwell, was born on the day of his funeral.
Burns liked to get pissed, sing songs, chase the women, big up Jacobite Scotland, contempt the English.
Who are we to judge who never lived in his day nor walked a single step in his shoes?
TONYDONNELLY 912
Had that comment been made by,say,an Englishman,an American,a Greek,I would be only too happy to explain the error in their thinking.
As it was made by a Philistine,I won’t bother.
Poor Rabbie, wild as a lad and human.
Party piece for the Edinburgh bourgeois who ‘advised’ him to curtail his real voice, tone.
Sold a worthless farm, and died trying to make it productive, at 37.
Burns was a common man, subject to the prejudice of his time, whose name has been tarnished by the Calvinism he disapproved of.
That same ‘bitterness’ that prevails in Scotland now.
Born poor, died poor.
However, he lives on:)
HH
C,mon you historians.
Tell me why Walter Scott has pride of place in George Sq, and NOT Robert Burns?
HH
I had the honour of being invited to address the haggis at a Burns Supper in Edinburgh about 20 years ago. It was quite an honour and I was rewarded with an abundance of drams and the attention of quite a few bonnie lassies.
Ach well, wis a lang time hence.
THE GREEN MAN
From Wikipedia…
Although primarily remembered for his extensive literary works and his political engagement, Scott was an advocate, judge and legal administrator by profession, and throughout his career combined his writing and editing work with his daily occupation as Clerk of Session and Sheriff-Depute of Selkirkshire.
A prominent member of the Tory establishment in Edinburgh, Scott was an active member of the Highland Society and served a long term as President of the Royal Society of Edinburgh (1820–32).
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Alternatively,they knew it would be easier to change the plaque to Sir Walter Smith,come the great day(!)
AULD TAM
Good man! I couldn’t do that. I’d approach the haggis to open it up with the blade,then proceed to scoff the lot while holding off all comers with that same knife.
From Russia With Love
Joe Sullivan
12 September 2005
WHEN Jeff Healey and Jamie Doran produced Jimmy Johnstone’s Lord of the Wing DVD they could little have realised that icons evoking images of Tsarist Russia would end up on show inside Celtic Park…
But now, thanks to the amazing generosity of two Celtic-daft guys, Tony Wyber and Abdul Aziz, thousands of Bhoys’ supporters will have the opportunity to view Jimmy Johnstone’s exclusive Faberge eggs when they take pride of place in Paradise.
Celtic View; From Russia With Love
The story started when Sarah Faberge, great-granddaughter of Carl Faberge, the Russian Royal Court Jeweller, was inspired by Jinky’s incredible strength and courage in fighting Motor Neurone Disease after watching his film, Lord of the Wing.
The designer said at the launch in the House of Commons in June: “I am not a big football fan, but wanted to do something to help. “He was inspirational as a footballer and now he is inspiring people as he battles his illness. People admire him for different reasons now.”
Jinky is the first living person since the Tsars and Tsarinas of Russia to have one designed and the only Westerners previously to receive such an honour were Admiral Nelson and Thomas Jefferson, both posthumously.
A limited edition of 19 eggs to match his winners’ medals – including the European Cup – were hand-crafted and offered at £10,000 each to help Jimmy in his determination to beat the disease.
However, in acts of incredible generosity, both Tony Wyber and Abdul Aziz have gifted the Faberge eggs they shelled out £10,000 each for to the Celtic Visitors’ centre. Tony And Abdul were guests of the club at Saturday’s game against Aberdeen but this story started away back in December of last year and the first to react to the news about the eggs was Dumbarton postmaster, Abdul.
He recalled “I just opened my shop like any normal day, just happened to flick through the newspapers and one had mentioned that Sarah Faberge was going to make an egg in honour of Jimmy Johnstone.
“I just thought that’s nice and put the paper away, but then I opened another paper and it was in that as well but with a phone number this time.
“This was in December and it was that early there wasn’t even daylight yet but I phoned the number thinking I’ve got to get one of these, it’s a limited edition Faberge egg for Jimmy Johnstone and Celtic.
“I knew it was too early but when I eventually got through I tried to buy No.7 but it had been pre-ordered so I said, just give me any number then. Basically, I had to make my mind up there and then – and explain to my wife what I had done later!
“So I still didn’t believe I had actually got one until I got the certificate through the post but now I’m really, really chuffed.”
Abdul was obviously quick off the mark, considering he hadn’t actually seen what he was bidding £10,000 for (money that was supposed to be going to the deposit on a house!).
He said: “The vision in my mind was of the old St Petersburg collections from the days of the Tsars but all I really knew that there were only going to be 19 exclusive Sarah Faberge eggs and that this was really important.
“At the time I felt really privileged because I knew this was going to be part of history, so I’m really humbled to have been part of it and Bertie Auld, who is here on Jimmy Johnstone’s behalf, told me that Jinky is really grateful for what I’ve done.
“So just to think that the great Jinky Johnstone has mentioned my name or even knows about me makes it worth every penny.
“I’m just grateful I really am, being a lifelong supporter just having a chance to be a part of a little bit of history is just great. It’s every football fan’s dream in a sense.”
The only problem then was where to keep it, as it’s hardly the sort of ornament you stuff the light bill behind on the mantelpiece. Abdul carried on: “At first I thought, ‘what am I going to do with it?’ I couldn’t keep it my house in a showcase and I didn’t want to put it in a bank vault. So I thought, what I need to do is put it somewhere where everyone can see it and my brother Rashid had mentioned asking Celtic Football Club if they could possibly keep it for us.
“So I phoned up and Maura McColgan from the Celtic Visitors’ Centre very kindly said yes so really it’s a double whammy. “I’ve got a Faberge egg and it’s in Celtic Football Club with my name underneath it – so it just keeps getting better and better.
“Even before I got the egg I met Martin O’Neill in the House of Commons and the Lisbon Lions in Glasgow so…you couldn’t buy that. “It’s been a rollercoaster ride and I’m trying to keep my feet on the ground and concentrate on my life since last December.”
He added: “I try not to refuse any kind of charity and this was really just an honour to help Jimmy Johnstone in a tiny way. “In all honesty I wasn’t really thinking about that aspect when I first bought the egg but later on it sunk in that I was helping fight Motor Neurone Disease.”
And on the Wee Man himself, Abdul spoke for thousands of us as he said: “I tried thinking back to when I was a kid and I tried to remember if I’d actually watched him at Celtic Park or Hampden and I honestly think the only Lisbon Lion I saw play in the flesh was Bobby Lennox.
“So when I was a kid and we were playing in the park, I was Jimmy Johnstone as I knew of Jimmy Johnstone. “He was the complete package, he was everything that it means to be a Celt and he’s an everyday guy, an absolute world-class player, a Celtic legend and voted the Greatest Ever Celt – words fail me.”
JINKY’S team-mate and lifelong buddy Bertie Auld represented the Wee Man when Tony and Abdul, along with families and friends met at Celtic Park when the Faberge eggs made their first appearance. And Bertie was truly amazed at the intricate artwork put into the pieces.
He said: “The only thing is, with this in the house you wouldn’t put on the telly, you would just sit and look at this, it’s a work of art and everybody should be able to see it.
“And thanks to Tony and Abdul, Celtic supporters will be able to have the opportunity to see these fantastic eggs.
“It’s a wonderful gesture from both these guys and Jimmy himself is over the moon at their generosity.”
The Lisbon Lion added: “A lot of Jimmy’s character is in this so the designer must have known an awful lot about him.
“The medals are there for all to see but there are aspects reflecting the corrugated roof of the old Jungle and the mining community that Jimmy came from.
“ The miniature of Jimmy is so like him, the pose and the balance – the height! The only thing wrong with it is that the ball is too far away from him – Jimmy never let the ball get that far from him.
“One of the kids here asked me if I played with Jimmy, I said sometimes but I mostly watched him!
“But he had this perfect balance and even though this is made of gold, I look at it and, being lucky enough to have played with Jimmy so many times, I just see it as him.”
THE Faberge family fled France after the Edict of Nantes was revoked in 1685 and some members later settled in Russia where Peter Carl Faberge was born in 1846 and eventually inherited his father’s jewellery workshop.
Easter is the most important feast of the Russian Orthodox church calendar and in 1884 the Faberges produced a gold and diamond egg for the Tsar to present to the Tsarina Maria and it then became an annual tradition.
Aside from the Jimmy Johnstone tribute, Faberge also found themselves back in the limelight recently when a plot to steal one was the basis of the recent Hollywood blockbuster Ocean’s Twelve.
Faberge only produce between five and 15 designs a year and all of those are in small limited edition numbers which means they sell for great amounts of money whether new or second-hand. Frankie Birkenstein, a company spokesperson said: “We are limited in how many we produce each year by how many our craftsmen can make.
“There is growing interest in what we produce from collectors and investors. There is also a waiting list of people wanting to buy items second-hand when they become available..
“People buy our eggs for a number of reasons, including investment reasons.”
The original pre-Bolshevik revolution eggs sell for millions of pounds, and even later creations have seen their value rise sharply.
Source: Celtic View
BMCUWP
Join the dots.
What ..er ‘Society’, would Walter Scott be involved with?
Care to ‘Speculate’:)
HH
THE GREEN MAN SAYS SACK THE BOARD on 25TH JANUARY 2017 11:52 AM
Was it because it was erected within five years of his death, and so he was therefore more topical at the time?
new article posted.
KITALBA .
Moscow ? — I don’t know -but – I remember seeing a Robert Burns statue in Milwaukee
KITALBA
I worked for years with Tony Wyber,and remember when he bought the egg
As you say
A good Celtic man and nice bloke as well
HH Tony