Ciftci’s industry, the great Czechoslovakia

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BBC’s Jim Spence reports this morning that Dundee United have rejected a £900k bid from Celtic for striker Nadir Ciftci (23), as Ronny Deila continues his quest to recreate the all-conquering (cough) Dundee United team of 2014.

While Ciftci is clearly talented, this is an unexpected move.  He can hold the ball up and bring others into play but he never struck me as having Ronny Deila-type industry.  Not that he would be the first convert to perpetual motion.

With John Guidetti away and Stefan Scepovic yet to stake a claim, we’ve space for a couple of strikers.  It would be good to have at least one before the qualifiers.

Dukla Prague are one of those teams who my generation grew up hearing about.  They were one of the finest teams in Europe, with one of the world’s top players, Josef Masopust, who sadly died yesterday.  Masopust won the Ballon d’Or in 1962, after leading the great Czechoslovakia to the World Cup final that year, which they lost to Brazil.

He faced Celtic with Dukla in the semi-final of the European Cup in 1967, losing only once in the competition, at Celtic Park.  Czech football retains the potential to create great teams, but, denied access to TV deals available in neighbouring parts of the EU, they have been robbed of the ability to achieve meritocratic progression.

The passing of Masopust is a chance to celebrate a great player and team, and to regret what appears forever lost because of television.

Enjoying Phil MacGiollaBhain’s work with the Belfast Telegraph, laid bare in his blog of yesterday.  He includes scanned letters from the newspaper’s editor who regards it as “outrageous to suggest that I, or the Belfast Telegraph, would operate a blacklist of any form”, including one which includes Phil, despite how popular such a move would be in places.

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  1. Neustadt-Braw on

    desertbhoy

     

    17:15 on

     

    30 June, 2015

     

    Braw…

     

     

    you hallucinating on them forfar bridies again??

     

    …………………………………

     

    getting ma last days of freedom in ……Miss Braw …..ruler of all she views is back from NZ tomorrow …..my 8 month rest is over ,,,hahahahahahaha

     

     

    but I will survive ….oh yes ….

     

     

    braw

  2. Exiled Tim…………..what a welcome change to see golf clubs particularly in the Dublin area knocked of their high horses and are now grovelling for members for a fraction of the inflated membership fees of recent years

  3. saltires en sevilla on

    If our Ronny was articulating a concept to a group of people. Directors, shareholders/investors, players, supporters. Dareisay, the Meeja..

     

     

    The chances of anyone in the room being in any doubt, or unsure, about what he wanted to happen and what he intended to do next, are remote.

     

     

    Imagine being ‘one on one’ in a conversation!

     

     

    Methinks Celtic will be providing the bould Ronny with what he wants, for some considerable time to come. I sense he will not demand much that cannot be provided with agreed margins.

     

     

    His ‘stock’ has risen significantly since this time last year.

     

     

    If he is quoted as saying he has enough resources to qualify for CL. That is precisely what he means.

     

     

    Does anyone seriously believe this guy would say ‘yes’ when he means ‘no’?

     

     

    Enjoy the ride

  4. 32 degrees and sunny in leafy Lancashire tonight….the planned four mile jog has been curtailed to two miles to acknowledge the heat and get the cider in sooner.

  5. hankray

     

     

    I left Ireland in 2008, and it was just becoming affordable when I left, my local course in Rathcoole, Co Dublin was 3.6K just to join, if you could, and then 2 k a year, a complete joke, I was lucky tho, being semi retired then, I used to enter the over 50’s comps a couple of times a week, and we used to play all over the area for 6-8 euros a round, but I needed a handicap obviously, hence Slievenamon, played at the K club many times, magic for 8 euros a pop, guys not in the comps were paying over 200 a round, changed days now tho as you say, they are getting desperate.

     

     

    HH

  6. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    LIVIBHOY 1449

     

     

    ‘A year ago lots of people were convinced that Craig Gordon was a Peter Lawwell signing. Craig was a free transfer, he hadn;t played a top team match in a few years, he was cheaper in wages than Forster, it signalled down sizing and Forster would be sold. There was near anarchy.

     

    That signing worked out so does not now get listed on the PL signing list along with John Parks duds. Seriously? Have a look at last year if you have issues with your memories Bhoys.’

     

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~++~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

     

     

    With respect,bud-few of us doubted CG’s qualities. Many of us were concerned about his fitness. Most were happy at his signing because…

     

     

    We were told that he was signing as back-up to our established first-choice keeper,Fraser Forster.

     

     

    That was a blatant lie,mate. That’s why people were upset. Not at CG signing.

  7. F.A.B. Virgil (WATRC) @16.48

     

     

    Another example of a little knowledge being a dangerous thing. The title that the intrepid Sevco-ites have uncovered is for the feudal superiority over the land that comprises Celtic Park. This is something that, prior to 28 November 2004 would have entitled Willie Haughey to enforce feudal conditions contained in the title deeds (the main ones normally being conditions restricting what the land can be used for). Since 28 November 2004, the concept of feudal superior no longer exists and, as a result, neither does Willie Haughey’s title.

     

     

    I presume that the Sevco-ites will now say that the entire process behind the Abolition of Feudal Tenure etc (Scotland) Act 2000 was “state aid” or some other nonsense.

  8. kevinlasvegas on

    Hail Hail Bhoys. Been a while.

     

     

    Love the clumpany stuff. Great read.

     

     

    Cifti will do for me. Raw but Ronnie will tame him. Signed by weekend and play in the friendlies.

     

     

    KLV

  9. kevinlasvegas on

    Think cifti will ask to leave with the 900k bid being rejected. Get nothing for him in 6 months.

     

     

    KLV

  10. Neustadt-Braw on

    braw …enjoyed that tennis ….

     

     

    Dunblane can do no wrong by me ….smiley thing

     

     

    braw

  11. The Green Man on

    ThompsonTwin

     

     

    Dont like me talking about the blessed Peter and his gravy train.

     

    Are you his butler?

     

    Have you got your snout in the trough as well.

  12. If we are talking strikers, their success depends on the support and chemistry around them.

     

     

    Some strikers will flourish within a style, where others of equal, or superior ability will fail.

     

     

    You have to consider the bigger picture: the tactics employed by the coaches, the style of play on the field and the ability of individuals to fit into that required formula.

     

     

    Discussing one players potential purely on his stand alone results is flawed logic. It’s whether he will flourish within the team and systems employed.

     

     

    If we had used a similar logic on the likes of Derk et al, our wage bill would have been looking a lot lighter today.

  13. The first quality I would be asking myself as Celtic boss on a potential signing:

     

     

    Can this player take a real kicking in Scotland and then STILL perform to potential?

  14. The term Lawwell hater seems to be used quite a lot and rolls off the tongue for those who consider any criticism of his tenure as an affront to Celtic.

     

    I’d like to coin a wee counter phrase for anyone in this camp, a “Lawwell butt-plug” :)

     

    So in future if your referred to as a Lawwell hater you have a counter insult, enjoy

  15. The Green Man on

    I take it Ciftci was on the list.

     

    Sure it wisny on the back of a fag packet.

     

    More nonsense.

     

    The only list PL has got…says bread, milk, and eggs…so at least he will get an omelette.

     

    Ridiculous transfer dealings

     

    Amateurs.

     

     

    HH

  16. Neustadt-Braw on

    But the sphinx’s posterior sphincter. Is all clogged by the sands of the Nile,

     

     

    which accounts for the hump on the camel

     

     

    and the sphinx,s inscrutable smile ….

     

     

    braw

  17. What is the Stars on

    Canamalar if you are about

     

     

    wits,

     

    I asked you last night if you could point me to your source that you used to say that most Irish people agree with macjay’s opinion that the IRA were just bloody murderers, I’m having trouble finding anything that supports your opinion as that is all I can credit it with as there appears to be no concrete evidence. If you have a source please share.

     

     

    I actually replied last night and my post appeared but when I logged back in half an hour later my reply and other posts had disappeared

     

     

    Ok I will try to remember my reply but it was something like this

     

     

    “murdering bastards” I never said that..Apparently Macjay did (but that’s also been denied).I doubt very much that most Irish people would agree with the term “murdering bastards” I wouldn’t myself…but the vast majority of Irish people would and did share his disdain for the (now thankfully almost completely ceased) activities of the various republican paramilities

  18. Canamalar-

     

     

    I would suggest that if football in any way stirs the emotion of hate within anyone, for any reason at all, it’s time you considered taking up something like solitary hill walking only as a hobby.

     

     

    Football is entertainment, life is too short….blah, blah, blah…

     

     

    :-)

  19. El scorching it is, sittin’ ootside the Notre Dame cathedral – great excuse to be drinkin’ liters of beire. French people don’t want to be arsed listenin’ to how Mrs Teuchter is dans le cuisine and the dug is in the gairden – and after I stuck in at school tae ☺

     

    A’wa for a steak and up to pigalle/Blanche areas for a drink tonight. – another CQN mystery solved☺

     

    Had a couple of Hail Hail’s today, attired in the hoops – one from a Barca fan.

     

    All is good……lost in France…..hic.

  20. foghorn leghorn on

    san diego bhoy

     

     

    18:12 on 30 June, 2015

     

     

    Canamalar-

     

     

    I would suggest that if football in any way stirs the emotion of hate within anyone, for any reason at all, it’s time you considered taking up something like solitary hill walking only as a hobby.

     

     

    Football is entertainment, life is too short….blah, blah, blah…

     

     

    :-)

     

    ——-‘

     

     

    i hate hill walkers

     

     

    ;-)

  21. Paul67 et al

     

     

    One thing that sticks in my mind about Ciftci is his reaction after the last match of season 2013-14, when we beat Dundee Utd 3-1 at Celtic Park. He was on the subs bench, and only came on after the match was over, ie amid the players celebrating. He went over to the far side where big Sammy was saluting the fans, and gave him an enormous bear hug (if i can use that language on here), a Turkish-Greek thing if you like. Now this was before Sammy spotted wee Jay don’t forget. The fact is Ciftci enjoyed the moment, and if you hadn’t known it you would have thought he had won the title. This guy will love playing for Celtic, he is unlike anybody else we have at the moment, if he is Ronny’s man let’s get him on board. Pronto!

  22. wits,

     

    “but the vast majority of Irish people would and did share his disdain for the (now thankfully almost completely ceased) activities of the various republican paramilities”

     

     

    Where do you get this info, share the source, the vast majority ?

     

    There must be concrete evidence to support such a bold statement, independent opinion polls or such surely or is that simply your and murdochs unrepresentative opinion being imposed on and claimed to be an unfounded misrepresentation of the population ?

     

     

    A simple link to an independent source will do but I suspect there is no such evidence and you are making claims that have no basis in fact.

  23. TET, I’m a member of Slievenamon Golf Club, play there 3 days a week and live about 4 miles from the Course. Its nice and flat and grand for ol’ fellas. Not a great Course for the young bucks and the big hitters but suits old fogies like me.

  24. San Diego bhoy,

     

    It’s a personality issue, nothing to do with football and more to do with economics, always a source of conflict, no ?

     

    I simply offered an alternative terminology for those who are tired of being labelled on the grounds they have a different opinion.

  25. Canamalar, The reality of Irish History is that those who did resort to physical force were always a minority. It was true for the Fenians for the men of 1916 and on to recent troubles. It was never any different.

  26. F.A.B. Virgil (WATRC) on

    stoofer

     

     

    17:37

     

     

    Cheers. Any reason why Haughey would be feu superior? Can’t be coincidence surely. Did he buy out someone else? Would that be to protect the interest or perhaps vanity?

     

     

    HH