The potential scenario of a Scottish Premier League club going out of business, becoming an ex-club, has played out in several places since we discussed it last month. As a result, we have all had an opportunity to establish our views on the matter, what would and would not be an acceptable reaction by the league and SFA.
The first ‘insolvency event’ of a failing club is likely to be the appointment of an administrator to protect the company from immediate creditors. This would draw a 10 point penalty. The choice of the administrator for a football club could be a controversial subject, especially if some creditors stand to lose a considerable amount of money through any rushed deal. For example, although Rangers have a considerable potential liability to HMRC hanging over them, their creditors might feel that a period of administration stretching several years into the future would enable all debts to be paid in full, a position not all administrators would necessarily agree with.
It’s normal for directors to appoint an administrator prior to a creditor getting to court but if creditors don’t feel the appointment is likely to serve their best interests they can apply to appoint their own. These battles can get acrimonious.
In the days after an administrator is appointed the club may not be in a position to fulfil its fixtures. When Gretna’s administrator informed the Scottish Football League they could not guarantee they would be able to fulfil the following season’s fixtures the league relegated them two divisions, to the bottom rung of the league structure. This proved to be a temporary position before the administrator admitted defeat and folded the company. Precedent suggests we should look out for a double relegation if a club in administration has to tell the league they cannot fulfil fixtures.
There is no point waiting until a well-organised administrator presents a fait accompli to the league before we look for precedents and debate an appropriate response. For the integrity of the Scottish game, football fans need to be ready for this debate. Where possibly, colours should be pinned to the mast.
One outcome of the online debate in the last couple of days (thanks to untiring work of our friend Phil) is that Celtic were forced to consider this question. I sought and received assurances that they will not vote to admonish owners of an ex-football club with a paltry point penalty, allowing them to reform as though nothing happened the following season.
The question is still-hypothetical, so clubs are not in a position to comment officially yet, but we are in a healthier position for the debate and should encourage high profile supporters of other clubs to engage the debate as some from our own club have recently.
Fans Against Criminalisation are holding a pubic meeting on Saturday, 12 November, at Whitehill Secondary School, 280 Onslow Drive, Denniston, with Michael McMahon, MSP, among others, speaking. Try to make it along to support this important initiative before you are criminalised by a combination of stealth and apathy.
779 Comments- Pages:
- «
- 1
- 2
- 3
- 4
- 5
- 6
- 7
- ...
- 21
- »
I go off line for a wee while and all this breaks loose!
I have always thought they would wriggle off the hook. But that is because as a Celtic supporter I have always witnessed them doing just that. There appears to be no justice.
Paul – have Celtic ‘reacted’ to yesterdays claims? Was Phil, to your knowledge correct in his assertian that the clubs movers and sakers were all for letting them escape more or less scott free?
AND, on a football note, if they lose 10 points and we win the league by any less than the same amount will we forever be reminded that Rangers would have won the league had they not been punished by the SFA?
Haven’t much time today either, so I’ll probably miss the most of the blogging today.
But I’ll leave with this: I think most of us would welcome the following scenario:
1. Expell Rangers from the SPL. Make them apply for membership of the SFL for 2012/2013.
2. Cancel relegation from the SPL for one season
3. SFL to decide if they want Rangers to make up the extra place at the bottom of the League.
4. Rangers to be run as profitably as possible in order that they pay their debts in full over, say, the next 10 years or so.
I’d quite like three years free of the stress that comes with playing them, apart from the odd cup draw (bound to happen!)
There are some aming us who wish they would just cease to be. Ain’t gonna happen.
The most important thing we can do, as Paul says, is let our feelings be known.
CEltic PLC need to know that many more supporters will walk away if they allow rangers to go unpunished than will walk away if they do the right thing.
Ex Ludo says:
10 November, 2011 at 13:30
Re the cost of sporting events.
A mate of mine was at the Rugby WC final last month £500 a ticket.
p
Thindimebhoy says:
10 November, 2011 at 13:11
henryclarkson 10 November, 2011 at 11:10
Thanks for posting that link
Thought this was worth posting in its entirety, quite shocking to be honest
——
Holyrood Confessions Wednesday, 9 November 2011
A personal perspective on the ducking and diving at Holyrood
SCOTLANDS SHAME
It’s a highly controversial issue that normally would have had the SNP running for cover, but they have, it would seem, taken the bull by the horns (at least they think that’s what they have in their hands!) and beginning to “tackle” Scotland’s centuries old “shame”; sectarianism.
The SNP has a rather unfavourable track record on sectarianism which might explain why it’s taken them so long to try and get round to dealing with it in recent months and in the form of the Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications Bill.
The late Willie Wolfe who led the Party for 10 years between 1969 and 1979 was openly hostile to the Catholic Church.
In letters subsequently published by his predecessor Gordon Wilson, it was clear his objection to Catholics was not driven, as some in the Party have recently suggested, by an ideological desire to ensure State and Church remained separate, but because Wolfe believed Catholics were conspiring to violate “the statutes establishing the U.K. and securing the Protestant Religion in both England and Scotland”.
Wilson subsequently wrote to Wolfe condemning his “bigoted anti-Catholic views” but much of the damage was already done.
Traditionally most of Scotland’s Catholics at that time backed the Labour Party and any tendencies they may have had to support the SNP was completely off-set by the perception that senior figures in the Party held such strong sectarian views.
It was during Wolfe’s leadership of the Party that Christine Grahame joined the SNP.Historically she had voted Labour, but unlike her brother had resisted joining that Party. She told me that her motivation for becoming an SNP member was that they seemed to have “more fun” with more social activities with fundraising quizzes and musical nights. It also gave her the chance, she said, to escape for a few nights a week from what was clearly the heavy burden of parenthood.
It would be years later before she would contemplate standing for the Party. In the early 80s the SNP came very close to completely imploding.
Both the Socialist 79 Group, (which Alex Salmond, Kenny MacAskill and Roseanna Cunningham were members of) and the ultra-nationalist Siol nan Gaidheal were expelled from the Party.
Grahame deliberately stayed away from this battle and quietly tried to steer a middle path for fear of ending up on the losing side, a cowardly and duplicitous strategy she would repeat many times in her political career.
THE WINDING ROAD TO POWER
I first met Grahame in 1994 at a meeting in Galashiels also attended by Alex Salmond when she was standing, under her married name of Creech, as the MEP candidate in the forthcoming Euro elections.
It was fairly evident from the body language of the two that neither had any great respect for the other. Locally things weren’t much better with fierce infighting that simmered away for years and culminated in a very public row over who would be the SNP’s parliamentary candidate in 1997. Grahame had a clear ability to encourage warring factions within the local Party and manipulate them to her own advantage.
Willie MacKay, then an SNP Councillor denounced Grahame in meetings and also privately in his efforts to secure the candidacy. The bitterness exchanged between the two surprised me. Ultimately neither would secure the nomination and a compromise candidate, Ian Goldie, was put up instead. Grahame deeply resented this, but had no other choice but to accept it.
Shortly before the election though MacKay announced his defection, along with another SNP Councillor Murray Hendrie, to the Labour Party.
Both subsequently claimed that as socialists the Labour Party represented a fairer option for ordinary working class people and families… they had not gambled on Tony Blair though, as he effectively dragged the once socialist Labour Party firmly to the political right where it remains to this day.
ANTI-CATHOLIC PARANOIA
In 1999 Grahame was elected on the regional list and entered Holyrood for the first time. Her ambition, she said, was to continue to deliberately target the Borders Tweeddale seat which she hoped to lure away from decades of Liberal control.
The first inclination I got of Grahame’s sectarian views came after the appointment of the SNP’s Michael Matheson MSP as “Shadow Deputy Justice Minister”, with Roseanna Cunningham taking up the Shadow Justice Minister portfolio. Grahame remarked that the two were as “thick as thieves” and whispered in the office “they are both Catholics, you know that?” “So what,” I thought.
Initially I put this down to the flashes of paranoia I had witnessed before from Grahame, rather than some deep seated sectarian prejudice. One of her first instructions to me after I was appointed was not to communicate with Michael Russell MSP, the former SNP Chief Executive who I had previously dealt a lot with. Russell had closely supported my work during the campaign I had been involved in, down in the Scottish Borders, against the US venture capitalist firm Viasystems who were trying to close two local factories and pay off 1200 workers.
I had a very good working relationship with Russell then, which it was clear Grahame was unduly suspicious and deeply paranoid about. Russell had come ahead of her in the regional list vote and it was apparent she saw him as a threat to her long term political ambitions.
At one stage, due to illegal employment practices being directed towards me by the US electronics giant, Russell on behalf of the SNP threatened to take legal action against the Company. “Mark Hirst is held in high regard by colleagues and in the local community,” Russell wrote and the Company finally backed down. I had got the first big hint though that my employment with Grahame was going to be no walk in the park.
SECTARIAN ABUSE
At this point I was an active member of the SNP.About a year after I had started work at Holyrood word came through from the Tweeddale branch of the SNP that Murray Hendrie, the former SNP Councillor who had defected to the Labour Party along with Willie Mackay in 1997, wanted to re-join the Party. Grahame was furious and relayed her anger to local Party officials that he must not be accepted back into the SNP.
She instructed me to attend the forthcoming Branch meeting to be held in the Salmon Inn , Galashiels where Murray would make his case to be re-admitted to the Party.
Prominent local activists were present, such as Jim Gibson, Anne Murray and local Councillor John Mitchell. I relayed to the meeting Grahame’s “public” objections to Hendrie being allowed back into the Party.
Responding Hendrie surprised me, and possibly other members present, when he argued that Grahame’s real motivation for not wanting him back was because of the sectarian, anti-Catholic views she held.
A discussion then ensued and it was clear to me that this allegation against Grahame was not news to some of the longer serving members. As I drove away from the meeting I began to wonder about what other prejudices were lurking in Grahame’s mind and the fact I myself was brought up as a Catholic.
Although I have long been a practising, evangelical atheist, I was perhaps more acutely aware of sectarianism than other local members of the SNP and had witnessed and been subjected myself to sectarian abuse as a child growing up in Glenrothes.
I subsequently relayed to Grahame, by phone, how the meeting had gone and how the issue of her alleged anti-Catholic views had been raised. She told me she hoped the local branch would not be “stupid enough” to re-admit him but that if they did she would aim to block it by appealing directly to the internal SNP body that considered membership applications from activists who had previously publicly resigned.
Notably she made no effort, in the conversation with me, to dismiss Hendrie’s central allegation that her objections to him were based on her alleged sectarian prejudice.
THE CATHOLIC “MAFIA”
After I returned to work for Grahame in late 2004, it was clear little had changed. The office was still a shambles and her “work flow” completely disorganised. Having worked the previous 3 years in properly run offices, it was a bit of a shock to return to the chaos. Grahame’s paranoia though was ever present and perhaps even more pronounced.
Previously when I worked for her I had been given an easier rein to operate without constant supervision, but now “everything” had to be passed through her for approval. I immediately began to regret my return.
A few months before Grahame had been brought to task by the Standards Committee for various breaches to the Code of Conduct for MSPs and she feared that if it continued she could face suspension from the Parliament.
Perhaps had she possessed some basic management skills, not least to organise herself, she would not need to worry about breaking the rules. She was particularly scathing of Tricia Marwick’s role as Business Manager for the SNP Parliamentary Group and later when Marwick, a Catholic, was Convenor of the Parliament’s Standards Committee. On a number of occasions she made references to Marwick’s parliamentary activity as being influenced and directed by the Church. Later she would describe Marwick as a “bloody brown nosed job”.
END OF LIFE PREJUDICE
Marwick was not the only target for Grahame’s prejudice. In 2010 Margo MacDonald finally progressed with her proposed “End of Life Choices” bill which sought, under certain circumstances, to legalise euthanasia for patients suffering a terminal illness.
Initially Grahame was fundamentally opposed to the bill and felt that Margo “was too close to the issue” as she is battling daily against Parkinson ’s disease.
When it first arose Grahame held the view that terminally ill and vulnerable patients would come under undue pressure to relieve the “burden” on their families and agree to end their life prematurely.
However when the Catholic Church came out strongly against the proposed legislation, Grahame performed an abrupt volte-face, and went on to second Margo’s Bill when it was presented before Parliament. Her decision would have an unintended consequence for her though.
At the time Grahame was Convenor of the Health Committee and it was likely that Margo’s Bill would be scrutinised directly by that committee. Immediately after it became known that Grahame had seconded the Bill mutterings and rumours began that suggested it would not be appropriate for Grahame to chair the Health Committee when the proposed legislation came before it, because of her support for the principles of the Bill.
Chief among those recommending that an ad-hoc committee be established to scrutinise the legislation was Lib Dem MSP, Mike Rumbles who was also a member of the Parliamentary Bureau. Grahame’s anger spilled over in the office and into a long diatribe aimed at Rumbles.
“It’s because he’s a f*cking Catholic” she said.
She went on to link Marwick and other Catholic MSPs into the “conspiracy” and who she felt were manipulating procedures to ensure the Bill got nowhere and was kept away from her and “her” committee.
Of course the decision to establish an ad-hoc committee was also a major slight to her self-perceived “impartial” role as Convenor of the Committee.
Whilst some MSPs who have served on her committees in the past may have believed that also, the reality is that she has long engaged in the practice of notifying and briefing SNP Ministers on what the likely line of questions would be on the occasions when they were required to give evidence and be cross-examined by MSPs.
THE WOMAN WAS NOT FOR TURNING
Both Roseanna Cunningham, who I had also previously worked for and Michael Matheson made public statements criticising the Bill. For Grahame this was further evidence that opposition to the Bill was being orchestrated by the Catholic Church and that Catholic MSPs were following specific instructions from the Altar.
On more than one occasion I remonstrated with her on this, telling her that her views were blinkered and that most of the Catholics I knew barely listened to their respective Priests and lived life pretty much the same as everyone else, with all the sin, hypocrisy and self-motivated interests that involves. The woman was not for turning however.
Her prejudice was, I believe, the single motivating factor in her failed attempt to become Presiding Officer last May. I could not understand why she would go for the position, which requires her to surrender her SNP membership and turn the hard fought seat she stood for into an independent constituency. I explicitly asked her why she was doing it.
“I don’t want her f*cking doing it, that’s why.” I asked who specifically she was referring and she replied “f*cking Tricia Marwick”.
When the vote came through and Marwick was elected PO, the first person over to her was Grahame to give Tricia a big hug and congratulate her on her win.
What’s the saying? Hold your friends close and your enemies closer still !
IGNORANCE
It may seem an odd allegation to level at a party that is perceived to be very in tune with its nation’s history, but the SNP does not have a particularly acute grasp of historical consistency. The general ignorance of the political situation in Ireland is also woeful and in part is reflected in some of the misplaced comments by SNP MSPs in terms of scrutiny of the Bill.
When Grahame cross-examined Professor Tom Devine during the evidence gathering session of the Bill, for a moment her public mask slipped. She suggested that the statistics on the prevalence of sectarian attacks on Catholics was flawed and misleading. She implied the new Bill would “even up” the conviction rate of Celtic and Rangers fans!Devine, peeking over his spectacles, looked like he could barely believe what was coming out of Grahame’s mouth.
There is no question SNP policy on this has been driven by senior Police officers. Perhaps though the institutions of the state should get their own questionable houses in order first. Both police officers and MSPs are required, by law, to give an oath of allegiance or affirmation to the Queen of England, an institution that expressly forbids the UK Head of State (or the Scottish Head of State if Scotland becomes independent) from being a Catholic.
That sectarianism is fully entrenched in law, yet this is the same “civic” establishment that wants to criminalise thousands of football fans for singing songs, some of which are about IRA members who earlier this year the aforementioned Queen laid a wreath of remembrance to during her state visit to Ireland.
But where does it end?
“Rebellious Scots did crush” is still officially part of the British national anthem. Flower of Scotland celebrates our nation’s seminal victory over the English at Bannockburn, so too Scots Wha Hae which is sung at the end of every SNP conference.
Sectarianism in Scotland, as so broadly “defined” by the SNP is not confined to two West of Scotland football teams. Scratch the surface, even a little and you can find it everywhere… including Holyrood.
ASIAN CALL CENTRES AND PRINCE HARRY TYPE DESCRIPTIONS
Catholics were not the only minority who Grahame apparently held deep rooted prejudices against. During one lunchtime discussion with members of the Tea At Three Club (the group of MSPs staff, and Grahame, who met for tea in the Garden Lobby each day at 3.00pm) the subject of Prince Harry’s derogatory reference to a Pakistani soldier in his unit came up in conversation.
Prince Harry, who was once photographed at a fancy dress party wearing a German Nazi uniform, had subsequently made a video whilst on operations with the British Armed Forces and which had then been leaked to the media. As the Prince was panning past a group of his comrades he zoomed in on one of clear Asian descent and said “and here is our little Paki friend”.
Grahame went on to suggest that the media reaction to this was excessive. She went further and said she thought there was nothing offence in the use of that term and had used it herself many times. Even by her standards I was shocked by her comments.
Peter Warren, who works for Margo and who was sitting at the table responded by pointing out that as someone, who was not himself Pakistani but was half Indian that the use of that term of abuse had historically been directed at him and it was indeed offensive. Grahame just attempted to shrug it off, but I was genuinely horrified.
After lunch and on my return to the office I emailed Peter to express my disquiet with the comments Grahame had made and to make clear her views were entirely her own and not remotely shared by me.
Previously she had made a range of derogatory remarks about Bashir Ahmad, the first Scots-Asian MSP calling him a “token presence”. She also spoke about the Asian “problems” for the SNP in Glasgow accusing them of manipulating chosen candidates into place ahead of more established figures like her close friend Sandra White. Of course Grahame would never behave like that herself!
A few months later, and after her latest in a series of car accidents she herself had caused, I once again became concerned by Grahame’s racist language.
Following a call she made from her parliamentary office to her insurance company she came off the phone and began ranting about the failure, as she saw it, of Asian people to speak “proper English”.
Her comments were audible along the 5th floor of the corridor in the members’ block of the Scottish Parliament. I got up and went through and asked her to tone it down.
She went off again, “Why do they employ people who can’t even f*ckin speak English?” I suggested that rather than getting annoyed with the call assistant, that she direct her anger at the huge multi-million pound corporations who have set up in those countries simply to save money. She remained unrepentant though.
DISGRUNTLED, WHO ME?
Some have suggested that the revelations I am putting into the public domain are those of a former disgruntled ex-employee and that I have an axe to grind.
Well I am disgruntled, that is true.
I worked for Grahame for a total of nine years and witnessed and often had to cover up for her bizarre antics. Last year I became aware she was planning to replace me with her latest elderly married love interest and following advice from my trade union began gathering evidence in support of my forthcoming Employment Tribunal. Later I started to record widespread corrupt practices and malpractice in the office.
In February I decided to confront her on her plans and she assured me, despite the contrary evidence I had seen, that I would not be made redundant. On that assurance I moved 100 miles to settle in a nice part of the Scottish Borders.
Less than a month later she told me I would in fact be made redundant after all if she won the constituency seat. At the same time she went on radio and was reported in the papers during the election campaign highlighting the SNPs commitment to “no compulsory redundancies within the public sector”, whilst behind the scenes she was making plans (and she has stated this on record) to make redundant all three of her staff as soon as she got in.
Increasingly I saw her openly lie to colleagues, deceive others and leak information to political opponents, all with the same broad signature Cheshire grin she puts on for the cameras. Before she discovered I was gathering evidence of her malpractice and corruption I had already contacted the relevant authorities asking them to set out the reporting process to allow them to investigate properly.
Only after she found out I was gathering this information did she move to suspend me, then unfairly dismiss me for “gathering information without her consent”.
Disgruntled? Yes I am disgruntled and would challenge anyone who had experienced what I have put up with not to feel the same. I am not just saying she is not fit to be Convenor of the Justice Committee. It is my considered view, knowing the abhorrent views she does hold, that Grahame is not fit to be an MSP. On the 20th of October I passed these allegations to the Chief Executive of the SNP and also the SNP Chief Whip, but neither have responded or acknowledged the complaint.
So much for being tough on sectarianism!
Posted by The Ill Reverend Father Hirst
http://holyroodconfessions.blogspot.com/
Sheik Yerbouti @ 13:37
Sounds good to me.
Still think we should set up our own Fair Play League here. Plenty of decent teams (in every sense) who could come along. Leave the bigot league for the anti-football bigots.
Paul67
Supporters of the ‘establishment club’ appear to view administration as some magical experience were all their debt disappears and it is business as usual.
I hope after yesterday they now think, Oh F***! and realise what it will mean.
I also hope someone informs Jellybean about the HMRC case, as he is in for quite a shock… HH
Folly Folly 10 November, 2011 at 12:46
Mu guess is he has a few copies of the CQN site on constant refresh he has already typed out his podium post and sits patiently near the time finger hovering over the submit button
Or Paul tips him off I wonder how much he is paying for that
ASonOfDan @ 13:42
Aye – there’s been no consideration shown (except by several here) for the many small companies that will lose out and likely go under thanks to this. The Sneevins and Jabbas of this country played their part in keeping their financials under wraps ensuring that many small traders didn’t realise they with giving credit to an outfit with a failing cashflow.
AWAITING THE DOWNFALL:
To those speculating on their demise and how that will be relayed then there are a number of hurdles and protocols that will need to be attended to.There is the stockmarket where there are strict rules about making price sensitive announcements,the appointment of administrators,advising creditors,banks ( including Close Brothers )and they might also mention it to SFA/SPL. So I think it is fair to say that rumours will be flying high long before they get to that long hoped for ( by me ) moment.
As to the reaction of other club fans then from my very small sample,albeit amongst people who can think for themselves,they tend to see it all as Tims wet dream and believe there will be a massive fudge to save the Gers.I know a lot of us also feel that in our water so the work of some excellent posters here and,of course,Phil has alerted everyone,including the Celtic board to be vigilant.
SNP? They are certainly holding up my idea of what a ‘Nationalist Party’ is like…HH
A potentially explosive development, a former employee of Justice Committee Convenor, Christine Grahame MSP has accused her of holding anti-Catholic views. Mark Hirst who worked for Grahame for for two periods totalling 9 years and ending with his sacking in September for ‘gathering information without her consent’, has accused Grahame of holding deeply sectarian views in relation to Catholics as well as being racist and homophobic. He claims she has expressed these views in front of witnesses from as far back as 2001 and that this was well known inside her SNP branch.
Mr Hirst is currently assisting the Parliamentary Authorities and the Electoral Commission who are investigating Ms Grahame over allegations that her parliamentary and constituency office were operating in a corrupt manner with systematic malpractice taking place routinely.
In addition, he has made further allegations to the Scottish Public Standards Commissioner into a number of sectarian and racist comments Ms Grahame has made. He is also taking his case to an Employment Tribunal backed by his union.
Ms Grahame is accused by Hirst of comments about SNP colleagues who were known to be Catholics such as Michael Matheson, Roseanna Cunningham and Tricia Marwick. In the case of Marwick she made references to Marwick’s parliamentary activity as being ‘influenced and directed by the Church’. In relation to Matheson and Cunningham she accused them of being ‘as thick as thieves’ because they were ‘both Catholics you know’.
Hirst claims that Grahame opposed the re-entry of a former SNP Councillor, Murray Hendrie, who had defected to the Labour Party on the grounds that he was a Catholic and that this was discussed at the Tweedale branch of the SNP.
Hirst accuses Grahame of being influenced negatively in relation to a number of pieces of legislation by whatever position the Catholic Church took. In relation to Margo McDonald’s End of Life Bill she is said by Hirst to have been furious when Mike Rumbles suggested that an ad-hoc committee be set up to scrutinise the Bill and said, in front of witnesses: ‘It’s because he’s a f***ing Catholic’.
These and other allegations about Grahame are contained in a blog at http://holyroodconfessions.blogspot.com/ .
Thindimebhoy – Ha!
Not as clumsy or random as that. (thumbsup)
Just about to pay cheeky girl in canteen for lunch with ten pences and smash £4.00 plus
My ideal scenario, not likely but I can dream…
– HMRC demand 49million
– Rangers can’t pay and enter administration
– Docked 10 points
– Sell some players at Christmas but transfer fees are pennies
– Administration to last until all debts cleared
– Rangers unable to buy players while in administration
– Banned from all UEFA tournaments
– They start each season on -10 points but avoid relegation
This continues for say 15 years in which times we win 15-in-a-row and overtake them in terms of titles won
Administrator gives up and they enter insolvency – bye bye rangers….
Upsides
– They are around to watch us thrive as they did when we were financially handicapped
– We become without doubt the most successful club in Scotland with no footnote to say the previous holders of this honour disappeared into insolvency and we won our titles afterwards
– We get 15 in a row and more probably
– Champions league money every year
– We still get to hump them 4 times a year
Downsides –
– None
ASonOfDan says:
10 November, 2011 at 13:42
what happened yesterday?
BSR
Which one? The one who went out with Lembit Opik or the other one?
Allyhuntersgloves says:
10 November, 2011 at 13:37
“As we all know despite only owning 23% of the company he has complete control.”
thats 100% incorrect.
Thindimebhoy at 13:45
Yeah: that’s what I figured … multiple screens at his City desk.
How is it that one can get a screen on ‘constant refresh’, by the by?
Not that I’m at all interested in podiums, you understand.
Been there, done that (though not for a while!).
FF
Thindimebhoy 10 November, 2011 at 13:45:
Have you ever seen how Veruka Salt managed to get the golden ticket and vistit Willy Wonka’s chocolate factory?
Well I can imagine that Philvis has taken advantage of the recession to employ thousands of workers, on slave wages of course, that constantly refresh the page until the succesful candidate gets the credit and prize of a mere morsal from his swan and caviar lunch.
The Honest Mistake (Sickened) – Don’t care how, I want it now! (thumbsup)
philvisreturns 10 November, 2011 at 13:53
Phil my theory is close though
Theres no way you can get that lucky so its either some tech nous or inside info
Well done anyway its quite an achievement even though its slightly spooky !
TDB
Holyrood confessions is it?
I used to volunteer for long distance running at PE, rather than the usual indoor gym rubbish. The long distance was up to the top of Dixon Road and across to the Albert Cafe for a cup of coffee, a single ‘Tipped’ and a bit of Captain Sensible on the ol’ Wurlitzer.
There. Something else that will be expanded upon in the autobiog, if BRTH ever gets his nose out of that first edition Enid Marshall.
Thindimebhoy – Well done anyway its quite an achievement even though its slightly spooky !
Spooky is my middle name. (thumbsup)
Celtic4me gone on then tell us how it’s inaccurate
Folly Folly says: 10 November, 2011 at 14:04
The Honest Mistake reckons he has his slave workers (probably outsourced to some Bombay sweat shop) on the case for the constant refresh, or its possible to get a wee app to keep the F5 button tapping every couple of secs
There is no way he is doing this the hard way
James Forrest,
Hope you are getting over your bout of stress, your posts are bang on the money(apart from the refs)
Things could be worse though, you could have to lie to 8 month pregnant wife about where you have been. You could have a junkie as a business partner!. You could have had mad Tuco on your case. You could have the stress of having to find enough money fir your wife and kids before you soon die!!
Welcome to the wonderful wonderful world of MrWhite!!
SFFA
Izzy back in a fortnight.
Hail Hail!
Thindimebhoy – There is no way he is doing this the hard way
Damn right.
Whenever I’m confronted with a problem I think: “what would Ferris Bueller do?” (thumbsup)
Seven Fishes Four Steaks:
Lol indeed my man. And it doesn’t get easier … haha.
Yeah things are looking up right now. Getting there steadily. Due to philvisreturns, I am watching House of Cards right now and wondering why I haven’t talked about this show more on the blog ….
Honestly, anyone who aint seen it should. But Breaking Bad is still the best TV show ever!
The Honest Mistake (Sickened) 10 November, 2011 at 14:05
Indeed sir as I posted earlier some of his less than well enumerated employees (offshore near a city dump no doubt) are hovering over the refresh buttons of the those laptops for the third world which he no doubt aquired cheaply in bulk through a VAT scam
There is no way he is doing this the hard way
share
Philvisreturns don’t listen to them comrade! they’re jealous of yir talents.
Ps you’re muzik posts on weekend nights are a work in progress though :>)
V
HH
Sorry bhoys
The plan was to call a press conference, but then they remembered they were not talking to any of them.
James Forrest is Lennon – Due to philvisreturns, I am watching House of Cards right now
Me? I’m just a backroom boy. (thumbsup)
James
When you get to ‘To Play The King’ look out for the history lesson from Urquart to the former Prince of Wales.
BlantyreKev @ 14:15
Don’t know, but can find out for you.
Izzy back in a fortnight would be brilliant news.
philvisreturns says: 10 November, 2011 at 14:16
Damn right.
Whenever I’m confronted with a problem I think: “what would Ferris Bueller do?” (thumbsup)
—
Ah ha
So you are a city bhoy then
thumbsup
Vmhan who Supports Neil Lennon – Thank you my good man.
The thing about the music is that I like the night life. I like to boogie.
I believe it was Wittgenstein who once quipped:
“Haters gonna hate.” (thumbsup)
philvisreturns @ 14:24
What else are you blaming on the boogie??
James F where are those 2 programs shown?
House of cards / breaking bad.
Cheers
Vinny