I watched a few cup games on TV over the weekend, including the Exeter City-Liverpool and Hearts-Aberdeen games. There was a huge juxtaposition between the two Liverpool goalkeepers on show, Adam Bogdan (28), who had a nightmare for Liverpool against Exeter, and loan-ee Danny Ward (22), who was Aberdeen’s top performer against Hearts.
Within a day Jurgen Klopp recalled Ward from Aberdeen, who I’m sure will now become first deputy at Anfield. Six months ago Ward was not part of first team plans at Liverpool, who wanted Bogdan to be deputy to Mignolet. Ward took his chance, played in Europe and became a fans’ favourite at Aberdeen.
Without this loan, I’m sure Ward’s profile at Liverpool would be well below its current level. This is a great example of why you put players out on loan. Players sitting in the stands, or playing youth or reserve football, will find it very difficult to progress.
The other aspect of Danny Ward’s Aberdeen experience is that he was hooked back home after a live TV game. With the sheer number of players out on loan, I often wonder how much scrutiny of their progress parent clubs are able to deploy. Especially if it’s Celtic sending a player to Norway. It’s hard to escape the conclusion that Ward’s performance being on TV at the critical moment when Liverpool were pondering their reserve keeper position had a bearing on his career development.
For some clubs, appropriate scrutiny of players out on loan will be practically impossible (Chelsea list 30 players on loan at the moment).
If we extrapolate the way large clubs harvest players, there’s a good possibility loan players will make up the bulk of transfer activity across football going forward. Teams like Aberdeen should be using their Danny Ward experience to demonstrate what a good place they are for English Premier League teams to send players. I know a couple of years back there was some apprehension that one Scottish club were making inroads into Newcastle United’s misfits, but some cunning campaigning put paid to that.
All clubs need to learn how to feed off the squads of others, while managing the development of their own talent, not yet ready for a place in the first team. Those who do this well will flourish. Club partnerships will be the next big story in football, they will change the balance of power. At the moment there is little discernible pattern to how and where clubs loan players. This will change as clubs try to replicate the experiences of Danny Ward and Jason Denayer. Partnering with others, both up and down the food-chain, looks like the biggest efficiency gain in the game today.
Delighted at the genuine anticipation ahead of our next Scottish Cup game, which will be against either East Kilbride or Lothian Thistle. It’s a great story for grassroots football, no matter if it’s played in the Lothians or Lanarkshire.
Anyone surprised that lot were hauled into court this week by someone else looking to be paid? What a way to run your business. We know how the story will end.
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DESSYBHOY on 12TH JANUARY 2016 6:48 PM
Macaskill also tried to make the OBaF act an election issue today which was refuted by his fellow MSP’s on the committee,he gives the impression he would be happy in a dictatorship providing it is him and his like who are doing the dictating
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The guy is a functioning alcoholic and bigot (see his past comments re: the huns singing). Also a ned :
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/535592.stm
Greenpinata
I cringed at the match on Sunday, when I heard that particular chant. Neither the time nor place for it.
You would think that if their chairman had £30m up his sleeve they would just pay the £300k to avoid the bad publicity and perceived credit risk…..
DESSYBHOY
Kenny McCaskill is the is your original scottish Free MasoN RRODDY.
Lest we forget…
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/19/scotland-snp-police-state-justice-secretary
SOAL
keep up, i told ye all this last week, even posted the odds, had a score at 14s, just missed out on 20s
Dessybhoy
Delaneysdunky
Tonydonnelly67
Thanks for your replys
A thought that
See that baw bag Chris McLaughlin
Tweeted about Celtic fans
But when asked about sevco racist singing he said I’m talking about football
He is a baw bag
Equally so is
David McCarthy he started this by
Saying sectarian songs minutes after the game
The fastest daily rectum match report ever he has previous on this
They all sit together I presume during games
It’s a coordinated attack
As for the fannies wi the smoke bombs
Jail em
MASTY
We are still half stuff then
Love
SY
Three of them got lifted before the game started.
Soal
all was agreed last mid week only stumbling block was the % of wages had to pay
MASTY
Anybody else leaving and what price are you getting?
Lol and enjoy your winnings
With no Wi Fi at sevco does that mean they can’t delete their History :)
Dont know if anyone has mentioned but the Wiifree works at deid stadium
You can pick it up no probs
The issue is Virgin provide the big pipe to the world and they never got paid so vut it aff
Wiifree feckin useless in that scenario
Soal
pmsl
not got it YET,
my son is an aquaintance.
Don’t sing folk songs at Celtic games myself. However, no songs on Sunday are more offensive than the flower of Scotland, fact!!!
to suggest that censorship is a good thing in a democracy, is stupidity in action, the right to freedom of speech and political expression ought to run across all areas of life otherwise what is the point in having those rights in the first place
p.s the british army is a professional body that carries out the political will of the british government, singing get the Brits out now cannot be, in any way, shape or form shaped as if it is sectarian or racist, it is wholly a political expression, is it so hard to understands???
there are lots of fans that follow a range of clubs in Scotland that like to refer to a particular minority and it is not Celtic fans, fact!!!
Is the RC replay on the telly tonight…..?
Stephbhoy
all you say is spot on, but,
the club has requestated that we refrain, do you think its an unreasonable request?.
67H
No mate, was hoping it was. :(
This signing about brits out.I take it they are on about the troubles in Northern Ireland. Someone want to tell these boys that it’s history.move on.and some on here encourage these young folk.hoping there is trouble between police other fans.no it’s time s lot of us start to grow.if we are shout with our mouths aim it at the present lot who are running our club
Just saw a picture of Sevco fans burning flares at a recent game v Livingstone. Funny there was no mention of it in the MSSM!
DELANEYS DUNKY on 12TH JANUARY 2016 7:33 PM
Thank you good sir…. Will just have to watch ManU ans Newcastle then :)
STAIRHEEDRAMMY on 12TH JANUARY 2016 4:46 PM
With the sudden coordinated attack on the Celtic support you’d think that either Devco supporters have been called out on their weekly sectarianism or a big bad story is about to emerge from Sevcoland.mi hope it’s the latter. Feck them and their media puppets.
– See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/club-partnerships-will-be-the-next-big-story-in-football/comment-page-4/#comments
QUONNO on 12TH JANUARY 2016 7:46 PM
STAIRHEEDRAMMY on 12TH JANUARY 2016 4:46 PM
With the sudden coordinated attack on the Celtic support you’d think that either Devco supporters have been called out on their weekly sectarianism or a big bad story is about to emerge from Sevcoland.mi hope it’s the latter. Feck them and their media puppets.
Last post should have read. Who gave coordinated attackers their ammunition?
– See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/club-partnerships-will-be-the-next-big-story-in-football/comment-page-7/#comment-2752621
Shocking penalty against Newcastle there, it’s not just Scottish refs who are pish….
Genuine question.
The sectarian singing (not alleged according to the impartial press) that Celtic fans are being charged with. Has the compliance officer informed the club of which song or songs are being classed as sectarian?
It would be interesting to know the answer, and I would hope the club would let us know if they have been informed.
Re the pyro. I think any club statement should incorporate the fact that we are not the only club doing this. For example, on top of our own tough stance re our own supporters and the standards we as a club expect, they could acknowledge the fact that the pyro carry on has plagued a number if clubs for a number if seasons.
No whataboutery, just acknowledging a fact.
A happy hoopy birthday to the couple of swells…
CosyCornerBhoy n Awe Naw hh
West End of East End on 12th January 2016 7:57 pm
Shocking penalty against Newcastle there, it’s not just Scottish refs who are pish….
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The lad had no reason to raise his arm there though, that is why IMO it was given however deliberate.
West end of east end
Yir right mate
http://youtu.be/O0YiuSbBdaQ
HH
Don’t let Ronny sign any more players…they awe turn oot p#sh under his watch…..imho.
Gie the keys of the dug out to – Collins, McGhee or Keane….let hem sign just two players…..Jordan Larsson and, Peter Grant jr.
…..oot…….
Good Evening fholks
Congrats to the following 28 teams that got through with the need for the buyback safety net option and they move onto the next round of sudden death.
Big Al Manchester Utd
AndyF Manchester Utd
Timabhouy Manchester Utd
Thoms Sellick Manchester Utd
Celtic Rose Hearts
CM67 Dundee Utd
Danny Mac Arsenal
Lennybhoy Dundee Utd
The Token Tim Celtic
Celtic Soul Brother Celtic
delaneys dunky Manchester Utd
gerryfaethebrig Manchester Utd
jamabhoy Dundee Utd
The Good Ship Celtica Dundee Utd
Doc Hibs
Bobby Evans Superstar Dundee Utd
GuyFawkesaforeverhero Dundee Utd
Praecepta Celtic
The Exiled Tim Dundee Utd
Celticrollercoaster Manchester Utd
MikeinToronto Manchester Utd
Cowiebhoy Celtic
bognorbhoy Dundee Utd
Cosy Corner Bhoy Manchester Utd
Lennonspassion Jnr Manchester Utd
The Lurker Manchester Utd
StevieBhoy Dundee Utd
Setting Free The Bears Dundee Utd
Whilst the following 14 teams ( including 3 from the celticrollercoaster family, but not me :-0 ) crashed and burned. We hope to see you all again in LMS7
Marspapa Ross County
twinbrookbhoy Tottenham
Sponsored by Cheetah Tottenham
Hamiltontim St Johnstone
deccyrollercoaster Airdrie
Penfold St Johnstone
Zico Maltese Buoy St Johnstone
Jobo Baldie St Johnstone
TravelBhoy Ross County
Mrs CRC St Johnstone
Bada Bing MU / Spurs
Martybhoy59 Tottenham
Celtic cutiepie Ross County
dim sam St Johnstone
HH
CRC
BHOYWITHSEETHROUGHEYES on 12TH JANUARY 2016 8:03 PM
Genuine question.
The sectarian singing (not alleged according to the impartial press) that Celtic fans are being charged with. Has the compliance officer informed the club of which song or songs are being classed as sectarian?
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The report on BBC website suggests “Police Scotland is investigating complaints of sectarian singing”. It doesn’t say who (if anyone) made a complain – or whether in fact Police Scotland took it upon themselves to investigate and just call it a complaint. There is, however, a direct quote from a Police Scotland operative/employee :
“The behaviour of a minority on the day was unacceptable,” said superintendent Steven Lowther, who was Sunday’s match commander.
“What was supposed to be an enjoyable event for all was tarnished by a group of individuals who were intent on singing sectarian songs as well as letting off smoke bombs and pyrotechnics within the crowd…”
It was a very enjoyable event for me so I’m not sure why Steven Lowther says it was “tarnished”? Also – Mr. Lowther seems to have been the guy who made the call that songs sung were “sectarian”.
Celtic PLC won’t challenge this, so the the fans association groups should (since they apparently represent the fans). They should ask Mr Lowther to explain his comments and which songs he has identified as being “sectarian”.
As previously mentioned, I heard BOTOB clearly on TV. That’s not sectarian in the slightest. It could be argued that it’s “nothing to do with football” – but then neither is “I’m Forever Blowing Bubbles” or “One Man Went To Mow”.
What exactly is the problem Mr. Lowther has with the songs sung? The CSA should call on him to explain.
bournesouprecipe @ 1:39 pm
“Paul67
What happened to the Sevco WI FI money?”
Don’t think they’d raise much money by raffling off their wifies.
HIstory in the making as EKFC announce their first ever (I believe) all ticket game…
**OFFICIAL TICKET INFORMATION FOR LOTHIAN THISTLE HV TIE ***
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12-Jan-2016
The East Kilbride FC v Lothian Thistle Hutchison Vale, William Hill Scottish Cup 4th Round tie will take place at K-Park on Wednesday 20th January, and will be an all ticket match, kicking off at 7.45pm.
Tickets are priced at £10 for adults and £5 for concessions.
The public sale of match tickets will take place at the front desk of K-Park, between 10:00hrs and 13:00hrs on Saturday 16th January, and will be sold on a “first come- first served” basis due to high demand. Tickets will be available to purchase by cash only, card payments will not be taken.
Please note that the sale will be restricted to a maximum of 4 x tickets per purchaser, and tickets are unable to be pre-booked or reserved in advance.
Any away supporters who wish to purchase match tickets should contact Lothian Thistle Hutchison Vale directly, as an allocation has been agreed between the two clubs, and tickets are being distributed to the Lothian Thistle Hutchison Vale executive.
No one has been prosecuted for throwing flares or smoke bombs on Sunday ….never mind being jailed
Great 2nd goal by ManU ….Linguard
PFAyr
Just a slip of the keyboard :-)
HH
bhoywithseethrougheyes
Very pertinent post.
Two weeks ago the singing at Ibrokes when eventually reported was ‘alleged sectarian’
Not only was the Celtic singing not sectarian, it wasn’t even alleged. ☺️
I’ve just listened to Kenny Mc Skill’s attempted ‘defence’ of the OBA in which he suffered at total defeat
at the hands of Celtic’s Paul Quigley and Jeanette Findlay, not to mention, the rest of the committee.
What we require are more Celtic voices
veritas vincit CSC
NATKNOW on 12TH JANUARY 2016 8:21 PM
We are ‘living with the enemy’, I’m afraid …… I wonder what the British immigrants think about the July 4th celebrations….cheekie Yanks….how dare they celebrate their struggle for Independence …..WHAAAAT, they actually GAINED Independence from Great Britain …..now there’s a revelation ……and India too …. Well, I never …….. and……..WHAAAAAAAAT …England have moved on …..pesky wee Scots loyalists ….defending the realm against the rebellious tims from the Soo Side……
BLESS EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM …….hahahahahahaha