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Club-v-country has never been so acute as Celtic-Scotland right now

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These pages have seen Gordon Strachan written off many times since those four days in August 2005 when Celtic conceded nine goals to Artmedia and Motherwell. Last night, as Scotland manager, he got the breaks. First, at the most ridiculous dive for a penalty ever perpetrated by a player on a yellow card (and I have seen Steven Naismith), then, when tired defensive limbs contrived to concede a late winner for Scotland.

If he gets a result away to Slovenia on Sunday, he will have earned whatever grudging appreciation goes his way. A generation of adults have never seen Scotland at an international tournament. They don’t know the joys of losing 3-0 to Morocco, watching a defensive wall shirk at a free kick, or celebrating as an Iranian scored an own goal to deliver a point. It’s time they learned.

Little about Scotland’s success is good news for Celtic. Should we win the league, our first qualification round will start two weeks after the tournament kicks off. Although that round is unlikely to provide a particularly stiff challenge, consider what happened to Newco when they arrived unprepared against Luxembourg semi-professionals.

Even if Scotland don’t reach the finals in Russia, a second place finish in the group for Scotland would see the players face two play-off games in the middle of our Champions League group games, and the possibility of a League Cup final.

Brendan Rodgers will wish his players every success, but he would surely not be too distressed to share hard luck stories with them when they return to training next week. The club-v-country debate has kicked around for decades, but I doubt if any club/country combo has seen it as acute as it is for Celtic and Scotland right now.

Catch up with this CQN Podcast from last month when we interviewed Celtic star from the Centenary season, full back Chris Morris. It’s a great listen…

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  3. Gerryfaethebrig on

    AoW 10.51pm

     

     

    Good stuff the 3 months is now the target :-)

     

     

    remember what i said this morning (hopefully) the hospital play on the worst case scenario, take care J

  4. Delaneys Dunky on

    Tontine

     

     

    I remember serving Archie McPherson in my aunt’s pub, the night we beat Rangers 4-2 at Ibrox but lost the league. He was a gentleman whose love of Jock Stein was apparent. His fitba knowledge was great, even though Archie made it apparent he was a bluenose.

     

    He loved Charlie Nicholas hugely.

  9. Art of War on

    Gerry, i did mate and passed it on.

     

     

    Apols to you and Dallas as I’ve been a bit of a space cadet of late. Keep forgetting shit and not listening.

     

     

    Forgot to say my boy- who has no interest in fitba- went to Scotland game with explorer scouts. £10.50

     

    Still no interest in fitba. Lol

  11. Delaneys Dunky on

    AoW

     

     

    All good here thanks.

     

    My mammy thinks Brendan is like her hearthrob Jock Stein. She is no happy I am going to Munich. She watched the Clydebank blitz and we have Polish family. Dementia is tough for her.

  12. Gerryfaethebrig on

    AoW 11.08pm

     

     

    :-)

     

     

    Space cadet ? Never known you any different :-)

     

     

    Keep it lit

  15. Art of War on

    DD- dementia also tough for you mate. I love the moments of clarity though when you get rhyme and verse of events 20 years ago. Vivid as feck. You lean forward in your chair and encourage it. Hope you have many such times.

  16. Art of War on

    Gerry, cheeky bassa :-)

     

     

    I think you’ll find St Stivs has copyright on ‘keep it lit’.

     

     

    Lincoln Lawyer lit-igation heading your way :-)

  18. Vmhan - YNWA Wee Oscar on

    Evening Celts

     

    Just thought I’d look in to see what the Craic is :>)

     

     

    Good result for Scotland last night, and hope they do well on Sunday….. but I’m itching to get back into ser the Celtic playing, strange feeling as I was Scotland daft as a wean. Possibly all the hun booing of our players put me off it., I don’t think that happens now……. thankfully the huns are to busy supporting anybody but Scotland.

     

    V

  19. Gerryfaethebrig on

    DD 11.09pm

     

     

    I wasn’t about when Jock Stein was our manager, but reading your posts about your mum reminds me of my mum, wee Rose loved Tommy Burns but she was no lover of Celtic (just to annoy my father & her sons) her recurring line “Celtic don’t pay the bills” I know deep down she loved the hoops, but in that feminine way she couldn’t let us know :-)

     

     

    Enjoy reading your posts about your mum and Brendan makes everybody happy (Tommy Burns effect) :-)

  20. Saint Stivs on

    aye.

     

     

    keep it lit.

     

     

    and

     

     

    handsome hun finder general.

     

     

    hahahhaha

     

     

    but everyone join in, this is what it feels to be celtic.

  22. Jobo Baldie on

    WEEBOBBOYCOLLINS – agreed, a wonderful song. I’m pretty sure I own every song that Gerry Rafferty released. Definitely one of my joint favourite musical heroes (along with another half dozen or so!).

     

     

    Paisley also produced a more recent diamond in Paulo. https://youtu.be/x3xYXGMRRYk

  24. Gerryfaethebrig on

    AoW 11.21pm

     

     

    I am the least cheekiest poster on the blog, no arguements from me :-)

     

     

    Just take care of your mum and hopefully your dad getting home for 25th December would be a nice double beating Anderlecht earlier in the month ….. :-)

  25. Art of War on

    SS- handsome hun finder general.

     

     

    Wiz that not a part played by Vincent Price in – ‘The Devil Rides In’ ???

  27. Saint Stivs on

    ART OF WAR on 6TH OCTOBER 2017 11:31 PM

     

    SS- handsome hun finder general.

     

     

     

    Wiz that not a part played by Vincent Price in – ‘The Devil Rides In’ ???

     

     

    ———–

     

     

    exactly.

     

     

    neither witches or handsome huns exist.

     

     

    its a well paid job, with no bonus targets ever met.

  29. Delaneys Dunky on

    GFTB

     

     

    My mammy is different. She has always loved Celtic and has encouraged me to follow Celtic since I was a wean. A wee pound or two on a Saturday morning to get to Paradise was her thing with me, when my da chucked it when I was 11 and we sold Dalglish.

  32. Art of War on

    St Stivs – if you were on Universal Credit you’d get sanctioned cos you couldn’t provide a viable business plan.

     

     

    Jobcentre- so how many have you found, in your role as handsome hun finder general, in the last month?

     

     

    St Stivs – not a one!

  35. Saint Stivs on

    definately vincent price.

     

     

    —————————————-

     

     

    Witchfinder General is a 1968 British horror film directed by Michael Reeves (a tim fenian) and starring Vincent Price (a tim first name) Ian Ogilvy (a hun, probably a turn coat), and Hilary Dwyer. The screenplay was by Reeves and Tom Baker (doctor who)( [3] based on Ronald Bassett’s novel of the same name. Made on a low budget of under £100,000, the movie was co-produced by Tigon British Film Productions and American International Pictures. The story details the heavily fictionalised murderous witch-hunting exploits of Matthew Hopkins (a hun), a 17th-century English lawyer who claimed to have been appointed as a “Witch Finder Generall” by Parliament during the English Civil War to root out sorcery and witchcraft.[4] The film was retitled The Conqueror Worm in the United States in an attempt to link it with Roger Corman’s earlier series of Edgar Allan Poe–related films starring Price—although this movie has nothing to do with any of Poe’s stories, and only briefly alludes to his poem.

     

     

    spwaned the popular 17th century poem

     

     

    does though know per chance a handsome hun

     

    no , my good man, one douth not.

     

    but does one know per chance a handsome hun.

     

    no, my good fellow one douth not

     

     

    for there is not one,

  37. Gerryfaethebrig on

    AoW 11.31pm

     

     

    I know exactly where the post was aimed for

     

     

    DD 11.35pm

     

     

    I know exactly what you post about your mother, mines was born 1927 died 2008… she loved Celtic but she would stick the boot in if her man disappeared to the fitba when she had all the weans to look after by the way I have no knowledge of this as a wee bhoy I just listened ti the stories, but she loved Tommy Burns, she passed in March’08 and Tommy followed her in May’08 and Miss GFTB was born Seltember’08….. 2008 was a defining year in my life £200 on Zenit at 11/8 & £50 Arshsvin man of the match in Manchester, think wee Rosie was looking down on me

  42. Art of War on

    Gerry, £200 bangers on a bet???

     

     

    My missus would have fashioned herself a lovely set of testicle earrings if she’d heard that i put that on. Even after I’d won. :-)

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