I received updates direct from last week’s Scottish Football League meeting shortly after it concluded. My information was that Neil Doncaster in particular was given a torrid time and that the mood among clubs was firmly against agreeing to place Sevco into the First Division.
Within a couple of hours it was clear that many in the media had been given a different impression and that if the vote was taken then, a ‘healthy majority would vote in favour’. To a degree I think we are all susceptible to messages we want to hear but it has been a feature of this debacle that executives from the national bodies have given clear guidance to the media that ‘Newco’ would be voted into the SPL, as it was, or now into the First Division.
On more than one occasion I’ve heard “You might have heard different, but Neil Doncaster told me….”
There is no shortcut for legwork and attention to detail. On this subject, credit to STV, who present informed information on how Friday’s vote is likely to pan out, with references. Of the 30 clubs in the SFL, the report 14 have declared an intention to vote against plans to plant Sevco into the First Division, one will abstain and one has (incorrectly) been told they are ineligible to vote. Another 14 are yet to declare.
It seems likely that the SFL vote will go the way of the SPL vote. There is a desire to retain the sporting element to our game among clubs, if not among administrators.
In a statement yesterday Clyde FC nailed several of the myths behind threats made to SFL clubs:
“We have obtained a copy of the Settlement Agreement signed up to by the SPL and the SFL in April 1998 – it is clear that the agreement is not ambiguous in this regard and there is no scope for the SPL to fail to meet the obligations to the SFL except by deliberately breaching the agreement… We have concluded that it defies credibility that the SPL clubs would instruct the SPL to deliberately breach a legal agreement.
“The matter is made worse because of the extent of uncertainty which hangs over Sevco. There is no need to prepare an exhaustive list of the issues as they are well publicised, however the extent of outstanding sanctions that may or may not be levied against a club which has yet to obtain SFA membership, together with the increasing number of possible commercial and legal challenges to the transactions to date simply presents a significant risk to the ability of the club to fulfil its fixtures in any league. Given that some of these matters are in the hands of the governing bodies it seems inexplicable that they are left hanging.”
In short, the Scottish Football League has a binding contract with the SLP which they are entitled to enforce. Clyde also refer on the matter we have discussed here for many weeks, Sevco are trying to buy a SFA membership which has significant outstanding disciplinary issues against it which could see the membership suspended. Instead of providing clarity, the SPL and SFA have refused to set deadlines of proceed with hearings.
We can speculate if SFA chief exec, Stewart Regan, will inform SFL clubs in person on Friday of plans to disband judicial oversight from our game instead of asking Lord Carloway’s panel to reconvene.
Despite the valiant efforts of many football fans and clubs, our game has been ruined by years of destructive, self-serving, leadership.
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Whither the cash strapped scrofulous New hillbillies the day?
j tittor welcome forward. So what happens next : )
RIP Joe McBride, a genuine member of the stellar list of great Celtic centre forwards, from Quinn to Larsson.
My Dad used to tell me that Joe was one of the finest goalscorers he had ever seen in the flesh
May you rest in peace Joe McBride
Joe McBride.
A hero of mine, as a wee boy: although I think I still carry an emotional scar from when he was sold to Hibs.
May his soul and the souls of all the faithfull departed rest in peace …
From KDS
What If There’s No Santa?
“If Santa knows that you’re being bad, you’ll not get any presents on Christmas Day.”
Were any of us not subjected to that threat at some point in our childhood?
What a brilliant way to keep someone in line! Invent a myth, keep repeating it until you convince your weans that it’s true and then use it to manipulate them according to your wishes. As a child, I sometimes wondered about the logistics of this remarkable operation. We all did.
The whole world? In one night? Presents for every single well-behaved child? All carried on one sleigh? Seriously?
It seemed that something didn’t quite add up here but wherever I looked, everyone confirmed the reality of Santa. Parents, relatives, neighbours, teachers, random strangers all had their stories straight. Television programmes and adverts, grottos in department stores, pictures on billboards, songs on the radio, each provided further evidence that nobody except me had even noticed any of the inherent inconsistencies about this extraordinary person and his work.
Why don’t all the starving children in Africa ask for enough food to keep them alive?
If his elves are making all these toys themselves, how come they look exactly the same as the ones in the shops?
What’s the point of the shops trying to sell Airfix Lancaster bomber model kits or Subbuteo sets if everyone can get one for nothing?
It didn’t make sense.
On the other hand, I had a suspicion that it might be unwise to express too much scepticism. It might even cost me a train set.
By all accounts, only people who actually believed in Santa got presents from him.
It finally came to the point when I not only knew beyond reasonable doubt that Santa must be a myth; I also realised that I had been surrounded by liars for years. But no sooner had I become cognisant of the Great Deception than the liars invited me to join their conspiracy. There were younger siblings and cousins who had to remain deceived and it wouldn’t do for me to blow the whistle. I calculated that by publicly maintaining the pretence that I believed in Santa, I might be able to raise the stakes for next Christmas. It was to be a red bicycle or else I’d spill the beans.
(At this point I must apologise to any readers who hadn’t yet heard the bad news that there is no Santa. If it’s any consolation, Graham Speirs knew this three weeks ago before anyone else although he didn’t bother to write about it. In any case, in a few months time the Daily Record will claim that it was the first to break the story.)
As with the Santa myth, so with the Rangers myths. One of the recurring myths is that Rangers are a financial powerhouse, an economic engine which supplies Scottish football with huge revenues upon which almost every club is almost totally reliant. According to myth, even Celtic need Rangers.
Celtic have long since grown up and don’t believe in Rangers so they have dismissed that myth. Many other clubs, however, are holding out for a red bicycle. Some will settle for a train set. So long as they are compliant and believe in Rangers, they’ll get something for nothing in defiance of all logic.
Over the course of the last decade, the mighty Rangers economic powerhouse ran itself into the ground. If the tax authorities know anything about taxes – and it seems to me to be a reasonable working assumption that they know quite a lot – we can go on to assume that when Rangers crashed into oblivion, the hole they were in was about £140 million deep. In truth it is even deeper.
On top of the money owed to hvndreds of creditors, there are previous matters to consider. In 2004, the mythical billionaire Minty Moonbeams reportedly squirted a £51.4 million pound “injection” into Rangers simmering accounts after a rights issue was formulated to reduce the club’s then £73.9 million debt. In truth, the attempt to raise capital was a catastrophic failure and Murray MHL Limited, which had underwritten the share issue, was obliged to take the hit. In effect, all that happened was that some paperwork was signed so that a £50 million debt to HBOS was shifted sideways from one basket case Murray business in Ibrox to another, even worse one in Edinburgh.
The debt was never paid back before HBOS croaked. It was subsequently picked up by the tax-payer as part of Gordon Brown’s £37 billion rescue package to maintain the lifestyles of corrupt, fraudulent banksters and their cronies. We’re now getting close to £200 million of Rangers damage to other parties. But say nothing. There might be a red bicycle in it for you.
Meanwhile, despite running up the longest series of consecutive 0-3 defeats in the history of football, Rangers were awarded the championship title on five occasions during this period, thus enabling the SPL to divert millions of pounds of prize money away from the rightful league winners and into the colossal overdraft of the mythical economic powerhouse. The SFA, hoping for a red bicycle, duly notified UEFA that Rangers would represent Scotland in the Champions league in the following season. Tens of millions of pounds worth of prize money would never reach the club which had really earned that place by playing the game according to the rules.
Five seasons of SPL and Champions League prize money take the damage up to the quarter of a billion pound mark. Yet the economic powerhouse still went bust.
There have been other substantial cash investments from dubious sources. In South Africa, Dave King still faces hvndreds of charges of fraud, tax evasion and money-laundering on an industrial scale. At the last count, I made it 322 charges in all. The money laundering activities relate to drugs-running operations, illegal arms deals, child pornography and a host of other unwholesome activities involving global organised crime syndicates. Fortunately for Rangers, £25 million of the proceeds of those disgusting enterprises found its way into Dick Advocat’s warchest. Red bicycles for everyone who sees no connection.
In 1992, Joe Lewis made his fortune by launching an all out attack on the UK’s currency reserves which cost the nation a minimum of £3.4 billion pounds on Black Wednesday. To balance up the damage done to the economy, Lewis dribbled £40 million into Ibrox economic powerhouse. Red bicycles for everyone who believes forty million pounds minus three point four billion pounds equals a positive balance. No need to show your working; just believe.
And on and on and on.
Just over a year ago, the Chief Constable of Strathclyde Police, Stephen House, was so convinced by the magnitude of Rangers’ contribution to society that he dominated the news headlines for days with his calls for ‘Old Firm’ games to be played behind closed doors or even banned altogether. Police Federation Spokesman, Les Gray, repeatedly rammed home a similar message that the country could no longer afford to bear the financial cost to the police, A&E, ambulance services and so on.
Ignore all that and collect your red bicycle on Christmas Day.
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A slight digression:
There are different methods which can be employed to control a system. Those who want to direct the behaviour of others have a number of options which range from pursuing a reasoned, enlightened consensus to enforcing a brutal, violent oppression. In practice, most systems are operated along the lines of one of the other options in between these extremes. The best and most efficient way for human beings to prosper together is within a co-operative, consensual group which is founded on mutual trust and respect. This has been demonstrated and proved in countless studies yet the notion is regularly undermined and dismissed.
It’s important to recognise that this co-operative model struggles to gain acceptance purely because we live in a society that is dominated by a Psychopathic Control Grid (PCG). The PCG embraces government, banking and financial systems, the military, corporate industry, the media, the advertising industry and the education system. It is utterly dependent upon its ability to control, manipulate and exploit the rest of us. To this end, it creates myths which require us to suspend our critical faculties in order to accept them.
It is clearly not in the self-interest of the types of parasites who hold positions of power within the Psychopathic Control Grid to encourage us to believe that we don’t need them. They prefer to promulgate myths such as the Survival Of The Fittest, create unnecessary confrontations and frighten us with imaginary threats from which they will “protect” us by restricting our options. The fact still remains that we are all better off when we are co-operating with each other instead of allowing ourselves to be exploited by abusers. But a smokescreen of misinformation and distortion of the true picture creates uncertainty and confusion. The Roman occupation can continue indefinitely for as long as the People’s Front of Judea argue with the Judean People’s Front, the Judean Popular People’s Front, the Campaign for a Free Galilee, and the Popular Front of Judea.
A fundamental, practical weakness of a tyrannical approach, backed by brute force, is that it is hopelessly inefficient. The overwhelming majority of those involved in such a system understand that they are being mercilessly exploited but even those who expect to emerge as winners ultimately find that their own position is insecure and constantly under threat. They are constantly running up the down escalator just to maintain position and know that will be swept back to the bottom if they ever ease up. Nevertheless, this inhuman, Babylonian model is still the one which comes most naturally to a psychopath. It’s in widespread use, whether in the context of an abusive family unit, a Mafia-style organisation or an entire Police State.
In the most successful and more sophisticated variations of the model, people’s sense of their own worth is chronically undermined by a relentless tide of psychological assaults designed to rob them of confidence, security and perception. This approach reduces the need for the controllers to resort to outright physical oppression. Words themselves lose their meaning; a peace-keeping force consists almost entirely of trained, professional warriors who are armed to the teeth; austerity measures require tens of millions of pounds to be paid to the people who collapsed the economy; rebels and insurgents are people who are trying to kick occupying forces from distant continents out of their homelands; and sporting integrity is a system whereby the biggest cheats in the history of British football are effectively given a guarantee that they will win their next league campaign, even if the rule book has to be scrapped to make it happen. There is such an overwhelming, never-ending bombardment of lies, deceits and affronts to decency that it becomes harder and harder for anyone to stand up confidently, point to the truth and say, “There it is!”
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Regardless of all that, here is the truth.
The SFL and SFA, amongst others, have dedicated themselves to the perpetuation of the Rangers Myth.
They worship at the shrine of a fake god which they have created themselves. They warn of dire consequences if puny mortals fail to venerate this mighty deity. They sacrifice honour, justice and honesty at the altar of their idol. They glorify their god through acts of bare-faced hypocrisy, blatant match-fixing and stinking corruption.
For red bicycles and Santa, read SPL money and SKy television.
For Rudolf defying the laws of aerodynamics, read Rangers defying the fundamentals of economics.
Just as Santa could only complete his night’s work by travelling faster than the speed of light, contrary to every principle of physics, so Zombie Hvns can only compete in Scottish football if every inconvenient rule is deliberately broken and every sporting principle is ignored.
To those who staunchly, defiantly believe in Rangers, despite all the evidence, this is as straightforward as believing in Santa Claus.
They just have to ignore the overwhelming proofs that what they want to believe cannot possibly be true. They’ll see one club recklessly spending everyone else’s money and they’ll call it generating revenue. They’ll see tax evasion, fraud and cheating but they’ll call it financial might, vision and dignity. They must wilfully ignore that even when the now-defunct club was at its most successful it still sucked far more money out of society than it put in.
They are determined to perpetuate the myth of Rangers for the sake of a red bicycle.
But the facts are laid bare for all to see. Zombie Hvns, and Rangers before them, are no more a linchpin of a successful, solvent, sustainable Scottish football set-up than a letter to Santa is a solution to the banking crisis.
Henry’s Blog
54 goals in just 55 league games must put J.McBride just behind the peerless Mcgrory in terms of scoring efficiency.
He was very unlucky in terms of injury.
Why haven’t Celtic put a claim on the 40 odd grand they are owed from the dead huns ,hearts and Dundee united have made a claim to the spl after there 900 grand prize money was froze !!
It sums up the SFA that they let a clown like McLeish do a report on the supposed ‘way forward’ for Scottish football.
From Video Celts
Shamed former First Minister Henry McLeish wants to see Sevco shoe-horned into the First Division tomorrow.
Against the wishes of Ally McCoist and at least 80% of fans/customers the former Labour First Minister wants to see any notion of sporting integrity banished in a bid to retain some tarnished commercial contracts.
McLeish was forced out of office in November 2001 after failing to declare rental income from an office that he claimed full parliamentary expenses on.
The former East Fife defender was commissioned by the SFA to publish a wide ranging report on the state of Scottish football in 2010 and is now being used as a cheer leader for those that want to see Sevco by-pass the Third and Second Divisions as Charlie Green attempts to find a place for his new club.
Green has failed to tell Sevco fans who his backers are and has a number of supporter groups warning fans not to buy season tickets.
Former Rangers defender John Brown has urged supporters to starve Green out of Ibrox while the SFA seem determined to treat Sevco as a membership transfer rather than a new application.
Rangers SFA licence was rejected by the SFA with the clubs’ last audited accounts appearing in June 2010.
Despite that mountain of problems McLeish wants to see everything resolved at tomorrow’s SFL meeting with Sevco presented with a First Division place.
“We can’t afford not to be able to move on after Friday,” McLeish claimed. “Unless or until we put our house in order, a lot of people will be looking at us and saying we are not fit for purpose.
“The game is bigger than the SPL, SFL and SFA. There is so much good work going on in the game.
“God forbid that anyone, after Friday, should think we can’t go forward. It needs confidence and it needs people to have trust and respect in each other. The game currently lacks that in a way which, even in 30 years in a rough trade like politics, I’ve never seen before.”
With Neil Doncaster and Stewart Regan abdicating leadership and coming up with fresh solutions and interpretions on an almost daily basis it’s not just SFL clubs that have lost trust and respect for the dynamic duo.
McLeish added: “The clubs are taking a big decision for Rangers on Friday but an even bigger decision for Scottish football. They have to see the wider implications.
“If you looked at the SPL option [for Rangers], that would have ticked the box about keeping finances to the fore but would have done nothing as a fit and proper punishment.
“If you look at Rangers playing in SFL3, that ticks the box in terms of a fit and proper punishment but it raises concerns about finance and the future for Scottish football.
“If you look at Rangers playing in SFL1, then to me it can tick both boxes. It brings to a conclusion, I would like to think, the range of punishments that have been meted out.
“But it also satisfies the fact that a huge punishment has been delivered to the club in terms of their integrity and credibility.”
“It is a balance and the fans may want to extract the maximum punishment, which is the Third Division. If you lived in an ideal world, a purist’s world, that would be fine. But we don’t have the luxury of that. In the position we are in, we can’t afford to take those lofty and philosophical decisions.
Patronisingly the shamed former First Minister added: “I congratulate supporters for putting integrity and good governance of the game to the top of the agenda. The fans have done a good job, but it’s now time for them to join us in addressing the other issues in Scottish football.”
Hopefully McLeish will have as little to do with Scottish football as Doncaster and Regan when the dust finally settles on this disturbing period
R.I.P. Joe McBride.
YNWA!
HH
/Bishop B
Morning,
Were we not told a 16 team league was a financial disaster. Now it will save Scottish football.
I honestly think if I supported any other team than Celtic I would chuck football.
Unfortunately, we are more than just a club and we dont do walking away either…
Very sad to hear Joe McBride has passed away.
I agree with the earlier postings; Joe was the most natural and lethal goalscorer I ever saw.
67heaven – cheers for that post. Thoroughly enjoyed reading it,
SFL boss to propose 16-team top-flight within two years..if newco Rangers are accepted into Division One
By Keith Jackson
SCOTTISH football was on the brink of a revolution last night as plans emerged to launch a 16-team top flight in two years – so long as Rangers go straight into the First Division.
The radical restructuring will be proposed by SFL chief David Longmuir, tomorrow when his clubs vote to decide which league the stricken Ibrox club should play in when the new campaign starts next month.
The sweeteners for accepting Rangers into the second tier include an immediate £1million pay-out to SFL clubs from the SPL.
But it will also see the two bodies streamlined into one senior professional set-up and include an immediate revamp of league structure – with the aim of expanding the top division to 14 teams in just 12 months.
The current First Division, with Rangers in the mix, will be rebranded along the lines of England’s Championship.
Three teams will win promotion at the end of its first season. It’s believed the top two will go up automatically with a third winning a ticket to the top flight through the drama of end of season play-offs. Only one club would be relegated from the current top 12.
And the same ‘three up one down’ format would then stay in place for one further season, 2013-14, in order to have a 16-team top flight in place for the start of the 2014-15 campaign.
It’s understood the blueprint has already been given full SFA approval and the personal blessing of chief executive Stewart Regan.
Now it’s up to SFL chief executive Longmuir to convince his member clubs to back the plan tomorrow’ at Hampden – after most had appeared set on sending Rangers down to the bottom rung. If 14 or more say ‘yes’ then Rangers begin again in the Scottish game’s second tier, with SPL clubs then needing to rubberstamp the rest of the restructuring.
And last night in an emotionally-charged letter to his members, Longmuir said: ‘Our duty as clubs and as football people is to ensure our national game has a viable future and fans and clubs are not lost to the game.’
The letter continued: ‘I would like to make it quite clear, and leave you in no doubt, that you have the complete freedom to make whatever choice you see fit on Friday.
‘No-one should feel under pressure or threat to make a decision that you feel is not in the best interests of our game. Whatever you decide, your board will support it.’
And Longmuir concluded: ‘I will circulate a document which has been prepared to give you clear information on what is under discussion for the short and medium term.
‘The document will be a Memorandum of Understanding between the three bodies which will be agreed immediately following our meeting on Friday dependant on how we wish to take the game forward.’
The shake-up would also see a greater share of TV revenue drip down the divisions. At the bottom, the professional game will also open up so amateur and junior sides can win promotion through regional play-offs.
New and improved cash parachute payments will also be thrashed out to soften the blow of relegation.
The positive wording of a joint statement from the SFL, SPL and the SFA seemed to suggest last night an agreement on this radical overhaul is now closer than ever.
It said: ‘We are asking clubs to consider a package of reforms which have the potential to rejuvenate Scottish football at senior level and safeguard its future at a time when uncertainty and fear prevail.
‘The proposals are based on five principles previously outlined by the Scottish FA as key to streamlining governance, ensuring greater financial distribution and above all, providing better entertainment, enhanced competition and value for money for supporters.
‘Upon agreement by the respective boards, the proposals will be placed before the SPL and SFL clubs for approval, to be activated immediately and phased in over a two-year period.’
RIP Joe
BroonSauce
Joe McBride’s half season scoring record in 66-67 prior to injury is truly unbelievable, especially when you consider the calibre of forwards around him vying for places.
My pal, a Hibee, tells the story of being at a Hibs v Celtic game at Easter Road with his Dad. This would be around 69-70 when Joe had moved to Hibs.
They were in the centre stand, which always had a fair smattering of Celtic fans mixing in with the Hibs support – although it was not obvious who was who at the start of the match.
Joe missed a half chance for Hibs in the first few minutes and was berated by a Hibs fan, sitting close to my pal and his Dad. Just before my pal’s Dad could point out the criticism being unreasonable, there was a chorus of Celtic fans now openly declaring themselves, telling the guy to shut his mouth, and that “oor Joe” was a legend.
And he was that.
Rest in Peace, Joe. God bless always.
Joe McBride RIP
The greatest centre forward,I have ever seen.
And there we have it… Rangers voted into the SFL1 on Friday…
They have bought the Division 1 votes with promises of an expanded SPL with 2 home games against Sevco.
They have enough Rangers fans on the Div 2 and 3 to ensure that the vote will be carried (and for any that are wavering a promise of fat cat seats on the SFA).
And finally the vote is a secret ballot so they can tell their fans they voted with integrity by actually vote in Sevco (yes I’m talking about you Cowdenbeath)
B
RIP Joe McBride. Incidentally, a look at his Wikipedia page led me to this (his Hibs side beat Lokomotive Leipzig, about whom the following is said):
“1. FC Lokomotive made a grasp at their former glory by re-claiming the name VfB Leipzig. A third place finish in 1993 advanced the team to the top flight Bundesliga where they finished dead-last in the 1994 season. The new VfB began a steady slide down through the 2. Bundesliga into the Regionalliga Nordost (III) by 1998 and then further still to the Oberliga Nordost/Süd (IV) by 2001. They were bankrupted in 2004, their results were annulled and the club was dissolved.
Lok fans celebrating the promotion with their team in 2008. In 2004, the club was re-established by a group of fans as 1. FC Lokomotive Leipzig. The renewed side had to start in the lowest league eleventh-tier 3. Kreisklasse, Staffel 2 in 2004–05.”
One of the best goal scorers ever Joe McBride.
RIP.
RIP & God Bless Joe McBride.
My dad never stops talking about what a fantastic player he was and how unlucky he and Celtic were when he got injured.
Says it all really. A failed corrupt politician preaching that we do not have the “Luxury” of being able to vote for the right and proper thing.
Maybe in your world McLeish, but in ours?
Mmmmmmmmm
What SFL clubs are being asked to vote on at Hampden Friday 13th July 2012
The three resolutions presented to the clubs are as follows:-
(i) That the Scottish Football League Members agree to admit Sevco Scotland Limited as an Associate Member and agrees to permit Rangers F.C. to play in the League during Season 2012/13.
(ii) That the Scottish Football League Members direct the Board of Management of The Scottish Football League (the “Board”) to provide that Rangers F.C. shall play in the Third Division of the Scottish Football League during Season 2012/13 unless the Board shall have to its satisfaction negotiated and reached agreement with The Scottish Premier League and The Scottish Football Association on a series of measures which the Board shall consider to be in the best interests of the game, how it is structured, how it is governed and how it is financed, whereupon the Board shall be authorised to provide that Rangers F.C. shall play in the First Division of the Scottish Football League during Season 2012/13.
(iii) That the Scottish Football League Members in terms of Rule 12 approve the resignation of either Dundee F.C. or Dunfermline Athletic F.C., whichever shall be admitted to join the Scottish Premier League for Season 2012/13, such resignation to take effect as at the date of admission of such club to the Scottish Premier League, notwithstanding that the requisite notice under Rule 12 shall not have been given.Details of the series of measures referred to at (ii) above shall be made available to the Members in advance of the meeting and an opportunity for full discussion of those measures will be given prior to the proposals being put to the meeting.
No wonder my dad has absolutely no interest in the National team. Joe McBride scored 86 goals in 94 games for Celtic.
He had 2 caps for Scotland!
BromleyBhoy@09:20
And there we have it… Rangers voted into the SFL1 on Friday…
‘They have bought the Division 1 votes with promises of an expanded SPL with 2 home games against Sevco’
If the above happens, you forgot to add ‘With the full backing of all the SPL clubs including Celtic’ in your post
Lads the ii section in that voting article, is it saying if they get voted into 3rd then the board can admit them to division 1 anyway ?
new article posted.
Moonbeams WD. Kano 1000 \o/ Supporting Neil Lennon 100%. Champions. C’mon Wee Oscar. on 12 July, 2012 at 07:06 said:
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Zbyszek that video doesn’t show them Choosing the route to go passed catholic churches a d desicrate them, it does not show the deliberate walk through traditional catholic communities or the beating of men and woman who attempt to cross the road at the wrong time.
The orange walk is a throwback to a dark time in our history and these fascist scum need to hold on to it rather than live in a modern free, open to all society, a bit like trying to get the SFA to do the right thing…… Scottish football orange ludge.
Have we resigned yet
HH
Just seen that Joe McBride’s has passed, may God go with you and keep you safe Joe, thanks for the memories…… Hail Hail