Cocky Dutch

1147

I’m older than Virgil van Dijk and I’ve seen more football scenarios than he has, so in this respect it is forgivable for him to be talking about Celtic going through the entire league programme undefeated, but Virgil was in the Celtic team who lost at home to Morton less than two months ago, so he really should know the only place to do your talking is on the football field.

Celtic have a rather important game on Tuesday, which the manager will quite rightly be preparing for, making tomorrow’s game against Aberdeen an open race.  If Virgil’s (reported) mind-set is shared by many in the dressing room the 7/1 odds against Aberdeen look generous.

Better all-round if we knock any ‘undefeated all season’ talk on the head.  It’s fine fare for fans but not for players.

Feeling gutted for the five Celtic fans who failed to get justice in Amsterdam yesterday.  The rest of us can busy ourselves campaigning on their behalf but verdict will be a blow to the five and their families.

Have you heard the ‘Tommy Burns – single’, in aid of the Tommy Burns Skin Cancer Trust?  Available on iTunes, 99p.  Wire in.

I hope you’ve enjoyed the current edition of CQN Magazine, not that I want to divert you away, but…  The Football Pink magazine is well worth a read.  We don’t get to read about Hugo Meisl and the Winderteam enough.  Hugo’s in the current issue, along with an excellent article on The history of Irish centre backs, the player loan system, and an article on Gunter Netzer, the midfield general who brought West German football into the modern era.

Columba Club, Blantyre, tonight, 8pm, me, Phil, Paul, Lourdes Fund, Q&A, general revelry.  Tickets on the door.
[calameo code=000390171e05b9b63a832 lang=en page=24 hidelinks=1 width=100% height=500]

£2 from every CQN Annual sold between now and midnight Sunday night goes to the Dam Appeal. Order here:


Puchase Options




Click Here for Comments >
Share.

About Author

1,147 Comments
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. 5
  7. 6
  8. 7
  9. 8
  10. 9
  11. ...
  12. 31

  1. LiviBhoy - God bless wee Oscar on

    scottishleaf

     

     

    You know that Alex wasn’t meant to be on that trip to Ekeren. He had been sent to buy a carpet by his then girlfriend. He went for a pint to see the Bhoys off and ended up on the trip with no passport and made it to Belgium and back. I think someone had stuck his photo on with a bit of chewing gum on an acquired passport or that was someone else on the bus. Totally nuts.

     

    Big Frank (can’t remember his second name) used to go on the bus selling flags to big matches abroad and down south and would get that wrecked that he would forget and only sell half and the rest of the bus would get them free. That may have been late 80’s early 90’s. It was by far the crazy bus in Livingston. Much calmer these days but from around 1985 to 1995 it was absolutely mental at times. Great fun though.

     

     

    LB

  2. Good afternoon all

     

     

    Winning captains,

     

     

    Annual still not arrived, Paul said it was posted on tuesday. I’ll give it till tomorrow and then start panicking. :)

     

     

    Weefra HH supporting Wee Oscar.

  3. Just read back a bit. The Red Telephone, condolences for the loss of your dad, he will be in your thoughts every day for the rest of your life as mines is.

     

     

    Weefra HH supporting Wee Oscar.

  4. Hi Philbhoy

     

     

    Mostly good this side:)

     

     

    You?

     

     

    I sent you an email last week.

     

     

    Love to your family big man!

     

     

    bj

  5. NegAnon:

     

     

    Ramie phoned a couple of hours ago, his memory is in tandem with mine, Kano never thought you a God, he thought you brave.

     

     

    I swear to God that is true.

     

     

    Paul67 has my phone number, please ask him if he’ll pass mine onto you (and thank him for his time an effort) or Smashin Milk Bottlles or Estadio. or Ol’tim, whatever, get my number and I’ll get you sorted.

     

     

    By the way, and I mean this, no blogbullshit, Kano’s birthday is coming up in a couple of weeks, according to the doctors Kano should be dead, Kano is Kano and he always listened to himself; and if you turned up on his birthday… it’ll be remembered.

  6. DBBIA

     

     

    The cost ramifications for an aquarium leg to the ole petting zoo would be stratospheric…

     

     

    But…

     

     

    We are talkin’ the ole dusky shark here.

     

     

    And if not in the lead up to the Commonwealth games, then when?

     

     

    Would it be arch to put some John Dory in the adjoining tank?

     

     

    U

  7. Kitalba of course you don,t need my approval for your posts,no need to be so rude to what was a perfectly reasonable question. If you don,t want to answer it just say so and we can leave it at that. Hail Hail Hebcelt

  8. I had a peruse back into the lead on a thread from hunmedia I posted yesterday… Some are calling for a public enquiry.

     

     

    Believe it or not …. “you just have to make sure whoever is in charge of it is actually independent and neutral, so it can be a Scottish thing.”

     

     

    A shake of the head and the realisation of thems never accepting guilt or responsibility comes to the fore.

  9. No worries Kitalba – will get it sorted – having some issues getting responses from Paul :) but I’m sure it will be fine. If it would in any way be a help to Kano I would love to meet him (and I will ensure I have that vodka). When is his birthday? My brother stays at Burns Beach but I will have a car and can travel around.

  10. Philbhoy - Bring it on!!!! on

    bjmac

     

     

    Everyone well (the 3 of us) and really busy at work, which is great at this time of the year.

     

     

    Will check lappy when I get home!

  11. The Janefield Street ‘Riot’ (1985) Incidents, Events & Controversies | About Celtic

     

     

    Brief outline

     

    1 May 1985 Celtic 1-1 Rangers

     

     

    •Match page

     

     

     

     

    •Aitken penalty on 2 min; scored but retake ordered because ball moved;

     

    •2nd one saved off the Rangers keepers legs;

     

    •52 minutes Davie Cooper sent off (2nd yellow) for foul on Peter Grant;

     

    •71 minutes Dawson off for an off-the-ball against Johnston;

     

    •77 min penalty to Rangers Aitken handled

     

     

    So an interesting game leading up to ensuing “riot”.

     

     

    4000 plus Celtic fans exit via Janefield St. Crowded. (in the past many more had exited this way without problems)

     

     

     

    •At some point a mounted police decides there is a ruck developing between opposing fans (denied by all subsequent statements by those involved). He orders 5 mounted police horses to charge through the crowd.

     

    •’Balaclava’ style charge through absolute mobbed street. Mayhem results.

     

    •They turn at the top of the street and charge back down again.

     

    •People already panic-ed start in on police and second charge is met by coins and stones

     

    •Police, not content and they call for backup – more mounties and plods arrive. 2 further charges follow. Open battle breaks out with police. Police start snatching people when full marias arrive. Numerous examples of excessive force in arrest. Many innocent bystanders nabbed.

     

     

    •100 yard of brick wall topped with steel railings collapses; people being let in and thru houses to get away from police, people handing kids up onto verandas to get them out the way

     

    •9 police injured including the original 5 mounties, 1 police with broken nose requiring hospital

     

    •39 fans injured, 10 requiring hospital treatment

     

    •69 arrests made (41 for breach of the peace – all the police figures confusing as it also includes arrests made inside the ground and pre-game also, 19 for carrying drink, 9 for minor offences.)

     

    •Strathclyde Police Chief Constable Sir Patrick Hamill launches immediate full police enquiry.

     

    •Kevin Kelly, Celtic Director, makes immediate call thru Celtic View for eye witness statements from those involved and gets statements from Janefield Street residents. Next 2 Celtic Views publish 4 pages of statements all stating that there was a peaceful but crowded exit before the police decided to charge.

     

    •Results of Police Inquiry published December 1985 exonerate police – no action to be taken.

     

    •Dennis Canavan raises question in House of Commons. Now alleged that 21 police injured and 12 “civilians”. Solicitor General for Scotland dismisses Canavan’s charges and 62 yet to appear at courts

     

    •Celtic set up Police Liason Committee in January to meet regularly and later appoint Security Officer (ex-Strathclyde Police inspector)

     

    •Independent action brought against Chief Constable of Strathclyde Police by Easterhouse solicitors on behalf of a young girl injured

  12. Haven’t scrolled back so I don’t know if anyone else mentioned the death of the legend that is Fr. Alec Reid. Originally from County Tipperary where I live, the man became a beacon of hope for the beleaguered Catholic Community of the 6 Counties. I could write for an hour and still only scratch at how much I admired this man. Maybe he himself wouldn’t particularly want to be remembered for this quote but it remains my favourite.

     

     

    “You don’t want to hear the truth. The reality is that the nationalist community in Northern Ireland were treated almost like animals by the unionist community. They were not treated like human beings. They were treated like the Nazis treated the Jews”. In an interview with CNN, Reid claimed that “The IRA were, if you like, a violent response to the suppression of human rights”

     

     

    Rest in Peace Fr. Alec May Heaven be your bed.

  13. LB

     

     

    That sounds like the scalp!

     

     

    My brother reliably informs me we joined the Emerald for the 92/93 season and he was on it for 5 years until 97 when he started taking his wee boy to the games and obviously the Emerald wasn’t the best bus for 5/6 year old to go on!

     

     

    So I went on it regularly for 2 and a bit season until late 1994 when I moved down south with my Dad when I was 16.

     

     

    When I came back to Scotland in 99 after finishing Uni my brother was on the Jock Stein so I joined that as well and we were regulars until after the Seville season and then started going on the Craigshill Shamrock from 2003-04 as we lived in Craigshill by then and had travelled to a lot of away games on the Craigshill Shamrock. When my wee boy was born in 2006 I stopped going regularly and gave up my season ticket for a few years until I started to take Leaf junior to games in 2010. Now take the car to the games but when Conor is older might well go back to a bus

     

     

    But yes by far the craziest bus I have been on is the Livi Emerald!! My brother and I are swapping emails about some of the antics!!

  14. Jeg er Neil Lennon-Greeninbingley on

    BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS backs Resolution 12

     

    13:31 on

     

    22 November, 2013

     

     

    BM – Why did you ask for your name to be left out of the magazine name list? Genuine question, just interested (mine ain’t on it either).

  15. Haw Bobby murdochs winkle picker thingy….

     

    So…my answer immediately after you posted the question was wrong I guess?? Tell us the answer then. I’ve waited hooors

  16. greenmaestro

     

    14:11 on

     

    22 November, 2013

     

    benjybhoy mul

     

    12:35 on

     

    22 November, 2013

     

    Absolutely priceless:

     

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmGjiokfQ2A&sns=em

     

     

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

     

     

    The end product of 12 years of compulsory education…………The Scottish “establishment” must be very proud…….

     

    Its a wonder these troglodytes can even stan up straight.

     

     

    The “How did you get a job” ? (your obviously not a son of william) from the toothless wingman was the most telling thing said……..

     

     

    I knew they were bad but FFS…….

  17. Bobby:

     

     

    Mate, Kano can’t move, I mean he can’t twitch a finger. He lives in a chair which is a clever chair that keeps him alive. He’s good with life, he doesn’t say much to anybody about his state of mind though. He’s still a smoker, what a bastard, can’t buy smokes, can’t hold smokes, but still want smokes. He only gets a smoke when people visit him who are not put off by getting close.

     

     

    He’s an ex-boxer, an ex-footballer (goalkeeper he he) and now he is static.

     

    He loves people getting in touch.

     

     

    His mind is more acute and active than ten of mine.

     

     

    He loves tommy who twists and turns and all that stuff because tommy who twist and turns like his namesake doesn’t use words, he lives deeds.

     

     

    I’m not going to ever dare tell you what to do but Kano’s interactive life is 99% visual, so if anybody has some ol’ porn movies that are all worn out, send them to Kano, or if you have youtubue jokes that brightened your day, forward them to Kano.

     

     

    You haven’t got his address, Paul67, and Ramie and his most persistent long distance mate, TommyTwistsTommyTurns does.

     

     

    Now I ‘m hitting the rack.

     

     

    Amsterdam… the persecuted…. Perth… Kano… he’s our brother.

  18. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    Uly- could use big hole in ground where school used to be.

     

     

    It would have to be filled with salt water, e.g Sevconian tears.

  19. It will soon be that Time, the 5 2 5 Time.

     

     

    Life is Shit, we all know that Now but Thanks be to God the Almighty for fantastic dudes like BSR etc who keep the Spirits (Holy?) up.

     

     

    I can’t half depress the blog, Imagine what it is like being ME :D

     

     

    (It isn’t as bad as it seems btw)

  20. Kit…

     

     

    Don’t know Kano or his state of mind but recently sent vid to BMCUW… ask him to forward it. He’ll be able to determine if it’s suitable…..

     

     

    Well mibbes naw as he’s a puddin’

  21. Just in to say….

     

     

    I recall the ‘Janfield Street Riot’ as being a classic case of the Celtic fans winding up the cops through out the game(in the Jungle) as the main chant for some reason was – “Have you seen a hansom hun ?”

     

     

    This was the followed by – “If ye hate the f#cken polis clap yer hands / SS-RUC etc…”

     

     

    When leaving the ground into JF street the ‘cavalry-charge’ was well under way as I got out but, I recall the Celtic fans responding by flying fists ‘hooking’ the horses and grabbing the cops from the horses and a few boots flying in and it was all well deserved imo.

     

     

    Someone mentioned the next O## F### game at CP the following season – shortly after Desmond White had passed away and the huns unveiled a huge banner with a digusting message on it about DW which if I detailed on here then, timdom would be at my front door with pitch-forks afore I could say – Off oot :)

     

     

    As the huns unfurled their banner, the Jungle charged at the huns end but were blocked by the cops. That was a strange one !!!

     

     

    Celtic again drew 1-1 with the huns with the Maestro equalizing for us in the second half.

     

    HH – Off oot.

  22. Saint Stivs:

     

     

    That version of events post match is a crock of bull.

     

     

    I know they are not your memories but trust me… it all kicked off because the police wanted it to kick off. One day I’ll write down my memories of how many of the Police shat it after they tried to wind it up.

     

     

    And as for the guy in the wheelchair who the mounted police almost rode over well he almost ran me down.

     

     

    I was at that game with a few of the Duntocher boys, and I swear, before I die, I’ll write down how the Glasgow police disgraced themselves and then cowardly ran away.

  23. desertbhoy:

     

     

    Kano is a Glasgow, Celtic, Supporter, he’ll find humour in anything. And he will remember you for sending it, not that he can let you know that.

  24. LiviBhoy - God bless wee Oscar on

    scottishleaf

     

     

    Ach I know exactly who you are. I ran the Jock Stein bus.

     

    Know your brother well too.

     

     

    LB

  25. Catman supports Wee Oscar on

    Kevjungle

     

     

    You live in a fantasy world. You post on the Janefield riot is made up rubbish. I know because I was there, you sir were not.

  26. This is a copy of a letter sent to the Chief Constable of Strathclyde Police.

     

    In the company of my son I attended the Celtic v Rangers match on the evening of Wednesday 1st May, at the end of which I left the ground via the north-west exit into Janefield Street. I was and am both astonished and disgusted at what I saw and experienced in the next 45 or so minutes walk to Central Station.

     

    A summary of events as I saw them is as follows:-

     

    Janefield Street, which is fairly narrow, was heavily congested with Celtic supporters who made progress westwards both slow and uncomfortable. There was neither panic nor danger. Conversation was all concerned with the unsatisfactory nature of the game and the dissappointing result.

     

    Without warning six mounted policemen at the gallop approached us from behind with no consideration at all for the safety of those men, women and children already tightly packed together and moving steadily if slowly.

     

    The crowd was obliged to move as quickly as possible to right or left as appropriate in order to avoid trampling. That no pedestrian was apparently seriously injured in the charge is surprising.

     

    The six mounted men stopped some 70 or 80 yards beyond me, turned and repeated the charge in the opposite direction, again scattering us right and left.

     

    On this run I saw some small objects and coins thrown at the policemen who ducked to protect their faces. On both charges I was within two feet of the animals.

     

    I managed then to move right into Holywell Street and thence to the Gallowgate which was fairly heavily congested with traffic.

     

    By this time the astonishment of the crowd had developed into anger and I heard but did not see objects that had been thrown strike police vehicles which were arriving in substantial numbers. From these vehicles constables emerged and arrested young men indiscriminately.

     

    From Camlachie almost as far as Barrowlands two police vehicles were driven at walking pace whilst the occupants watched the walking Celtic supporters. This was intimidatory in my opinion.

     

    In Gallowgate I saw one man arrested by two constables who roughly handled him into one of those vehicles. He had been singing a 30-year-old Celtic Song badly. He was under the influence of drink but not remotely offensive to any reasonable individual.

     

    One of these vehicles then crossed to the wrong side of the streetand continued int’s intimidating cruise there, going through a red stop light in the process for ehich offense any other driver would have been stopped and charged.

     

    Several police cars were driven fast in and through the pedestrian precinct of Buchanan Street and Gordon Street and in the latter a police motor cyclist drove in a dangerous manner into a group of young Celtic followers scattering them in all directions.

     

    The above are facts. I saw no trouble inside Celtic Park other than on the field of play. I saw no Rangers supporters until 10.10pm and these were four harmless youths in Mitchell Street en route to Central Station as I was. The Celtic support was vociferous in and immediately outside the ground and in some instances foul-mouthed in the modern idiom, but there was no violence of any kind until the police charges which I have described (I am told that these were repeated but I did not see them).

     

    Any violence – the throwing of stones and coins – resulted from the behaviour of the police and not the other way round.

     

    The police were cruel, loutish and downright dangerous. The use of those expressions of derision and contempt directed at these men I find now perfectly understandable. Courtesy, safety and public service are conceptions completely foreign to the individuals whom I saw wearing uniforms that evening and who are being paid by the very people whom they were treating worse than animals.

     

    I should like to think that the enquiry into these matters will be fairly carried out and that evidence will be taken not only from members of the force as recent newspaper reports have been.

     

    Name and address supplied

  27. KevJungle:

     

     

    I believe in giving the benefit of the doubt, however, your most recent post leaves me wondering why you post what you post. Is there something fundamentally lacking in your life that leaves you so depraved. You were obviously not present out of the back of the Celtic end that night, yet you chose to judge… ?

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. 5
  7. 6
  8. 7
  9. 8
  10. 9
  11. ...
  12. 31